Pets in Peril – Kalimdor
We know that the upcoming Cataclysm expansion is going to literally tear our virtual world apart. What we don’t know yet — and what many of us are worried about — is how the changes to the world will affect the existing wildlife, namely the beasts that we can tame.
But I thought it might be fun to speculate a bit. In this post I’ll make some guesses about what pets may be in peril in Kalimdor. Later I’ll take a poke at the Eastern Kingdoms as well.
My speculation is loosely based off the color-coding in a map that was seen at BlizzCon, which seems to indicate the intensity of landscape changes in various zone. (WoW Insider posted about this recently, which brought it back to mind. It’s also been on a number of other news sites and blogs since BlizzCon.)
Now I’m going to make an unsupported assumption and guess that, for our purposes, major landscape changes are more disruptive to wildlife than level changes alone will be. In my experience with MMOs, a major landscape change will require the content people to re-place any spawners in that area — a tedious chore which also gives them a great opportunity to change around the enemies in an area.
Just changing the level of an area, on the other hand, can often be accomplished with a simple data tweak to the spawners, or at worst a search-and-replace operation on the data tree. Of course, revamping the quest flow through an area will also likely change what creatures are where, but often this will be handled as an addition in a small area rather than a wholesale replacement.
… Which is just a lengthy justification for why I think basing my speculation on what appears to be a landscape map may be useful. I could be utterly wrong, of course.
So let’s take a look at the red zones from that map — presumably the most disturbed zones — one by one. (I’m starting at the northwest and zig-zagging down.)
Darkshore
We’ve heard a bit about the changes coming to Darkshore. Auberdine will be destroyed and the night elves will relocate to the northern end of the zone. (This will help the quest flow immensely, especially if they add a second flight point at the southern end.) Apparently the Horde is encroaching from the south, as well.
Now Darkshore contains a lot of pretty common pet looks, plus two very special beasts: the transparent Ghost Saber and the turquoise Strider Clutchmother. Unfortunately for us, the Ghost Saber spawns in the very north of the zone — where the night elves are relocating their town — and the Strider Clutchmother spawns in the far south — where the Horde are encroaching.
If we are lucky, the Horde won’t disturb the southern part of the zone too much and the Strider Clutchmother will remain there. If we are very lucky, Blizzard will relocate the naga ruins in the north to someplace further south and we’ll get to keep taming Ghost Sabers. But I am rather worried about both of these creatures.
Azshara
From all indications, Azshara is going to get a major make-over. The goblins are reshaping the entire zone more to their liking, and who knows what — if anything — will survive.
Fortunately, Azshara is not a very pet-dense zone. It’s main claim to fame is some chimaeras, some turtles, and way too many taratulas. There are two rare beasts — the Evalcharr and Scalebeard — but neither has a really uncommon appearance. So while I will miss it as a handy place to grab a chimaera, I am much more excited about what new creatures the goblins may import from their islands.
Stonetalon Mountains
I admit it: Stonetalon Mountains is one of my least favorite zones ever. There’s that long boring run from Crossroads to the tiny Horde settlement, then another incredibly long and annoying run down through the Charred Vale to Desolace. The Alliance don’t have it much better, coming down from Ashenvale through all the goblins.
So I am completely ready for Stonetalon to get blown away. I haven’t heard much about specific changes, other than a canyon to Ashenvale rather than a tunnel, and the Charred Vale opened up to the sea on one side.
I’m rather hoping that Stonetalon Peak (the green valley to the north that contains the Alliance flightpoint) is relatively unaffected, because I tamed my Twilight Runner there. But otherwise this zone only boasts the same ubiquitous brown chimaeras and green taratulas, and we’re not in danger of running out of those!
The Barrens
The Barrens is, famously, being split into two zones divided by a lava-filled chasm. I don’t know if we have official names for these areas yet, so I’ll just call them Barrens North and Barrens South.
According to the color-coded map we have, the Barrens North will see moderate changes to landscape. I have no idea what that means at this point, but it seems reasonable to expect that we will not lose our lions and lionesses, our violet raptors, or our tallstriders.
Similarly, Echeyakee is probably safe, as is Snort the Heckler and Takk the Leaper. (Have you ever noticed that the Barrens rares have very Mafia-like names?) In fact, Takk is probably extra-safe since he is now related to the Leaping Hatchling mini-pet.
The Barrens South, however, seems to be up for some more severe landscape changes. Which means that, depending on exactly where the lava-filled chasm goes, we may have some special pets in danger.
Humar the Pridelord currently spawns just outside Ratchet, which hopefully means he’s safe. I’d also hate to lose Azzere the Skyblade, since the only other places to find this particular color windserpent right now are in instances. But my top concern for the Barrens South are the vibrant green scorpids in the Field of Giants. That’s the only place we’ve ever seen these scorpids, and they are by far my favorite color.
Thousand Needles
Apparently, the Cataclysm is going to flood Thousand Needles. I imagine the ‘needles’ will still be above water, but the Salt Flats definitely won’t be … and that really doesn’t seem like it leaves us much of a zone to work with.
Unfortunately, while I have never really thought of Thousand Needles as a bustling hive of beasts to tame, it actually houses quite a lot of interesting options — most of which probably don’t breathe underwater so well. So there are some worries in this zone.
Most notable is the rare Silithid Ravager, the only tan silithid you’ll find outside of Ahn’Qiraj. But Thousand Needles also contains the only non-instance red scorpid, the Scorpid Reaver. And Vile Sting, of course — although you can now find silver scorpids in Silithus, at least.
This zone is also currently the easiest place to tame low-level white wind serpents, which from what I see in game are a very popular choice. At least there are other options for the white wind serpents, though — getting another tan silithid is a bit harder.
Speculation is Fun!
At this point, all we have is speculation. As we get closer to Cataclysm, I am sure we’ll learn more about what will be changing and in what ways.
I’ve only touched what we assume will be the most affected zones here. There are plenty of pets in other Kalimdor zones that we could conceivably lose. But I have a certain level of faith in Blizzard — they know that some of us are crazy about pets, even if they don’t really understand it. *grin* So if we get to beta and we find out that they’ve removed, say, Echeyakee … well, we can let them know that we don’t think that’s such a good idea.
Next time: the Eastern Kingdoms!
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It will be interesting when the beta opens to look at these changes. Personally I’m a huge Wind Serpent fan and so hope that there will be some new variations appearing in the new zones. With Tanaris and Desolace becoming new and green i expect that a lot of the pets will be replaced. If anything those two are the zones I am most interested in for pet changes.
Yeah, I’m totally, totally looking forward to the Cataclysm beta!
I hope last Blizzcon’s pass gets you one. No beta was attached or mentioned though =(
I’m more worried, not about pet losses/changes as Blizzard most likely will relocate the pets as there would be TO much hate mail from hunters about pet skins being retired etc, in such a way [as even in outlands there is a population of purple striders that escaped mass extinction on one of the floating islands. So there.]
Anyways. I’m more worried about Vanity pets, such as the dragon whelps and etc- like in Azshara, they are the only blue dragons that drop the azure whelp- and i’ve farmed them on/off five times, and nada [eventually bought it for Ryai], and while the crimson whelps do have a slightly better droprate, seeing as they’re easier to kill and respawn fairly quickly, it’s still a toss of the die.
And all those other vanity pets.
But anyways.
The Ghost Saber really spawns from Ghost Saber figurines. These could easily be relocated, far easier than night elf ruins infested by naga, being relocated. And they could possibly add MORE figurines as well spending 20 minutes looking for a figurine that will probably not give you a ghost saber isn’t all that incredibly fun.
For the clutch mother, she spawns near the south yes- but also near the shore. So she is most likely safe. And she also has a fairly ‘large’ pathing area, so again aslong as the south most part of the Darkshore, near the beach remains untouched, she should be left untouched.
For Echayekee tho, I have been pondering. If XR does kasplode into flames and lava, the quest for him will in theory, be gone, meaning the ability to tame one of the only two white lions will be gone. UNLESS Blizzard makes it where Echayekee is -always- visable, in Cat.
And the sithilid scorpids are most likely safe, as is Azzre, I’ve seen some screen shots or art work or whatever the hell it was of Camp Taurajo, and outside of some trees… and .. random ruins of elfish or troll nature or something… Camp T made it out in one piece, so southern barrens is most likely fine too…
If perhaps greener.
I am betting the rare sithilid is also going to be punted to Tanaris, and how Tanaris escapes being flooded to allow for 1k to be flooded and how Feralas escapes being flooded too is that 1k pretty much kasploded and an underground river got let loose and 1k and the salt flats have now become a salty lake!
And if anyone remembers, it was hinted at this was kinda how 1k/salt flats were originally, well not flooded but the salt flats were evidently larger and connected to the ocean. And 1k was -green-.
But eh, now it’s going to be flooded.
Anyways it’s possible that the spires of rock become islands or something similar happens- or that the bit of southern barrens nearest 1k now has new inhabitants; or they shifted off into Feralas.
Happy that my Ghost Saber “Spectre” is already tamed and enjoying being my DPS pet of choice when running instances. Hopefully we will also see some new pet families added as well, although how that would occur when it’s the same world with different environs after the Cataclysm…well… we’ll see I guess.
taratula? Whats a taratula?
Sorry couldn’t resist.
Remember winterspring has a white quest lion too. And they added a new black lion in Northrend.
They might of added the black lion in fact because of their nefarious plans.
Personally I think the 1k needles being flooded is interesting. I imagine a bunch of water, and like others said “islands” of the tops of the needles, perhaps the resident tauren will build bridges connecting most, and players can swim to some. Im thinking there’d be new plant life up there, and if we’re lucky some of the pets will just relocate to wander on top of the pillars. Its not a difficult stretch of logic to say windserpents just flew up there, or the hyenas were power-swimmers and fought their way onto some rocks. Turtles swim just fine too, so logically they should be alright. Some bask on the edges and a few swim about. Maybe some new dangerous watery beast will swim about below and gobble up taurens that wander too far into the water :D
Perhaps i’m one in a million, but I would actually like a lot of beasts to become less accesible, some even becoming no longer available. I know most would hate for some pet skins to become unavailable, but I would prefer it that way.
The islands by the trolls in the barrens are the only place to tame a really low lvl normal tiger skin I think, I hope they aren’t destroyed. It might not be all bad tho if a lot of animals get reskins some are getting a bit too polygon against the newer ones.
Narasalu…yes you are one in a million..why would you want your good old pet skins to vanish, giving you fewer options on skinns and models?! would you be happy with only 1-5 skinn choises in anny pet fammily? seeing the same skinn with every single hunter out there?!
i would hate for anny of the old wolfskins and models to suddenly vanish with an expansion. To never ever be able to obtain a purple or pink tallstrider. or ghost kitty, white lion, humar, ANNY skinns. ive grown to love em all. and even though they added new models and skinn id stil be frustrated about losing our good old figures.
Personaly im quite worried about the ghost sabre, cluckmother, humar, snort, echeyake, white wolves, even snarler..
Do annyone know if anything will happend to winterspring and the beasts there?
or anny guesses what new/old pet skinns we can expect in desolace as its beeing turned into a oasis pretty much?
Bullet. yeah i hope those tigers stays too.
Reskins…well. im not sure. i really dont want to see my good old wolf beeing totaly changed. but more animations(face animation mostly) to it and softer looking fur would have been nice.
I think they should include a Cenarion Preserve somewhere. (Possibly Moonglade?) It could be a wildlife preserve where the Druids have relocated all the beasts that have become endangered due to the Cataclysm.
I am definately sending one of my hunters out to catch a green scorp, just in case :P
@Gacheru- only if you can tame them, I can’t imagine any protectors allowing us to poach their animals!
In my opinion, I think really only Silithid Ravager is in danger. Though perhaps Blizz will take this ooprotunity to “unlock” the rest of the silithid designs (at least the silithid white wasp model) and allow us to tame them.
I think the Ghost saber shall be fine honestly. More camped? Maybe. But I think it’ll still be around. If anything, it might be lower-level to tame for fluidity.
As soon as the beta starts, I’m checking those pets out and hope I like the results.
In regards to comments:
While the cataclysm is tearing our world asunder, I’m personalyl thinking alot of our favorites (Ecehyakee, Sian Rotam, Rak’Shiri, Ghost Saber, and Humar) are going to make it out fine.
I’m not always on Blizz’s side, but on this one, I kinda am. When they revamped previous zones of the world, they only removed skins and mobs who’s “skin” was available elsewhere. (Skettis’ removal of Hawkbane didn’t affect White Tigers too much, Dustwallow Marsh’s revamp in 2.3 barely dented those colorations of Crocolisks and Spiders, those red warp stalkers removed from Ogri’la were never tameable to begin with =( )
So I’m going to be optimistic and hope they’re still around.
Oh and whoever asked about Winterspring, I’m cashing in on thinking it will experience “a new Spring”, so maybe some parts of it thaw out.
I think we will loose some of the classic pets, at least in there old zones. For example Hummar, at least the color skin, can be found in SB as pitch, but I think Hummar him self will be gone.
I for one am more interested in if we will get more stable slots so we can tame the new pets that will be coming with Caty. I dont want to give up the guys I have now, and sure you can make another hunter (which I have) to get some of the guys I dont have room for, but really its getting to the point that unique skins are so rare that once you get one you dont want to give it up even if you cant tame a new pet.
I think blizz should create a system that allows for hunters to store pets they want to have, but not have on “active duty”. Maybe a kennel or park where you can let your pets roam free but you wont be able to call on them unless you put them in your stables.
Something occurred to me…..the little fairy dragon mini pet is heavily involved in the salt flats race track. Which is about to be flooded. Are the alliance going to lose access to it?
Palla: I doubt it, the quest npc can simply be relocated OR, the quest can be completely changed and revamped and NOT require you to go hill and dale all over every freaken where in Azeroth.
I did it once on the ptr on an ally drood. Even with all FP and gold and etc it was annoying t_t
Not to mention one of the quest chain is on a time limit. *Laughs* I hate quest chains like that, but I love that particular pet. It’d just…..irk me if that went from being alliance only, to both, to horde only.
Palla I doubt that- as even ‘horde only drops’ are obtainable for alliance. Or horde only pets from vendors.
As remember they said they are revamping quests. And that one wasn’t only a doozy but as you said timed. And what if the person hadn’t even been to Hinterlands or had but never picked up the FP?
Don’t fret :p the quest as I said is most likely being made easier/simpler.
Hopefully I’m not misunderstanding Ryai’s statement here… But you mentioned “horde only drops” are obtainable for the alliance. As I recall, the Sprite Darter Hatchlings are BoP, which means, either way, they’ll have to change something so that the alliance can still acquire these pets. It seems the most logical choice would be to simply make the pets non-BoP.
What about armored boars from RFK? How will the changes to Barrens South affect that instance?
Galen: you do realize that the darters are BoP to prevent being sold via the netrual AH? Or to possibly cut down on farming of quest mobs?
I meant horde only drops like the cats from the dalaran dudes in Hillsbrad, or how there’s the horde/ally only pets from vendors, etc.
And no. No removing BoP from the dropped sprite daters. That was the best thing they could have done to PREVENT gold sellers from obtaining ANOTHER place to farm.
As trust me I saw about 4/5 failbots there for a full day once.
Palla & Ryai:
I think alot of pets (vanity) might be lost. Azshara is getting a revamp so what about the Blue whelpling? Or the spider and worg pup since Blackrock Spire will be getting a facelift? @_@
Interesting post!
As a slight aside, I think it is a little selfish to want skins to go away, because I think that wish stems from the all-pervading desire in WoW to be unique and special in the game. You can be unique and special in many ways (mainly ways that take a lot of time – rep grinds, progression), but in this case I don’t think it’s necessary or nice to newer or other players to wish it. With our lovely big range of pet choices now, it is pretty easy to find a “mostly unique” skin if you want to.
I am definitely worried about vanity pets as well as normal pets. But at the moment, the most we can do is speculate. Something else to keep in mind though is that it opens up the possibility of new skins as well.
Is Tanaris turning green? I knew Barrens was changing, but I didn’t recall Tanaris. Wouldn’t that mean the usual flora and fauna there will be changing as well? Like the scorpids will be gone and what have you. Hrm.
I can understand being worried about the sprite darters. Maybe the alliance quest will be removed and an egg will be put in place like they are doing with the raptor drops. Instead of a spawn there’s an egg. The best option would be to make the darters that dropped them tameable and killable for everyone. :D
SPRITE DARTERS! Thank you my friend, I couldn’t remember the name. And the thing is, there are like three quests before the Salt Flats portion of the quests, and then you just need to have two potions of something or other to give to him. He can easily be placed some where else.
Your safest bet will be to wait and see. I know it will be tempting to install the new expasion straight away, but if you dont, the world for you should still remain the same, no?
That way if we find out that some of these rare skins are being removed, if you want, go and tame them, have them safley in your stable and then install the expansion.
Hey presto!
Now i’m not sure if the world will still change with out the expansion “alla phasing” but we’ll just have to wait and see i guess : )
Nope, when Cataclysm comes around it is effecting everyone. Only the new areas and races won’t be available to people without Cataclysm. Soooo there will be no waiting and seeing, sadly.
Actually, blizzard has stated that the environmental changes will be for everyone, cataclysm expansion or not, as its not going to be done in phasing initialy, but rather they’re recreating the old zones completely.
Going by the picture mania linked, i couldn;t see bloodmyst Island, and azyermist Isle. Those places have soe pets that can’t be found anywhere else, and pets that can’t be tames until much later. Most pof the spiders can’t be fouf until later levels, and Zarakh is a unique skin. There is also a ’sickly bear” on those isalnds too that can’t be tamed till much later. So,i have to ask…anybody know anything about those areas? Are they seeing major changes? And will zarakh still be around to tame. gotta admit. i think she is the coolest looking pet in the game.
I don’t THINK that either the Blood Elf or Draeni starting areas are going to be affected by this. Buuutttt as is normal for the moment, we’ll have to sit back and see.
Blizzard has said while the Landscape for these areas will not be altered much, if at all, the quests and storyline surrounding the places will be altered to mach the new Earth-sundering events taking place in Cataclysm.
That’s in connection to the Bloodelf and Draeni Starting zones that is
Then those pet’s should be fine. *Nods*
Does anyone really think a bunch of goblin entrepeneurs would let a little detail like their race track getting flooded keep them from making money?
I wouldn’t be surprised if they just started racing rocket boats instead :)
(Dear Blizzard, now that you have vehicle tech, let us actually race at the goblin race track!)
We also have no idea how deep the flooding is going to be – it might only be the salt flats end that goes completely under, with the pinnacle area only partially flooded.
Random thought: what about Breanni [in WoW] and the pet shop store..? Old pets could end up in either of those places.
And tbh it’s not that I think the worg or the spireling will be taken out Rikaku, it’s most likely the quest would be bumped from ’soloable’ at 70/80 to ‘LO HI IT’S NOW A lv 80 QUEST ARENT YOU ALL HAPPEEEEH’ .. bleh.
A few folk have suggested about the pinnacles in 1k needles becoming little island spots, but even with the changes coming in cataclysm i don’t think thats a realistic notion. Think about it, for that region to be flooded to such an extent that the tops of the pinnacles would appear to be islands… well, that is an enormous amount of water guys. Look at the height of those things… it would be impossible to flood to that extent without completely washing away Feralas and Tanaris.
I can just see the barrens chat coming back… “Chuck Norris got angry at the Barrens and punched it. Now it broke in half, and cried so much it filled Thousand Needles!”
But I dunno bout Tak. Remember, they are about to change all the raptor pets to ground spawns.
Kayb: And for 1k to be flooded at all Tanaris would be heavily affected too. but it’s not from my knowledge; so the only realistic solution is that during the DEATHWING RISING event, 1k cracks and kinda sorta does a sinkhole effect, like the grand canyon, maybe a few feet, maybe a few hundred, but this could explain how it would become flooded, how the flats would become flooded AND feralas is on a SLOPE so if the depression is big enough, feralas will have ‘two beachfronts’.
But this is all speculation.
Besides, chains of mini islands instead of a maze of rock would be cool.
Edit: Also, alot of the rock towers would probably not survive an earthquake, alot are percarious as it is; so it doesn’t have to become flooded to the very top for it to flood enough to create islands.
Look at the “shore” of the flats in 1k, there is a visible line some feet above the salt – the former level of the water, and there is an elven wreck in the salt ;)
My guess is, the flat will become a lake (again), or the eastern mountains will disappear and the flats will become part of the sea.
Even if the lake/bay gets bigger, ground in 1k is rising towards Feralas, with Feralas beeing on a higher altitude.
The engineers will start building speed boats then :).
Only species in danger will be those on the flats.
Considering players will get the Takk the Leaper minipet from a rare spawn /nest/ instead of from the raptor himself starting with patch 3.3, Takk isn’t necessarily as safe you might think. It’d be kind of strange to remove Takk himself from the game and leave a nest of his (hers?) behind, but I wouldn’t say it’s impossible.
I would love to be a fly on the walls of Blizz’s design studios
Ryai:
“And tbh it’s not that I think the worg or the spireling will be taken out Rikaku, it’s most likely the quest would be bumped from ’soloable’ at 70/80 to ‘LO HI IT’S NOW A lv 80 QUEST ARENT YOU ALL HAPPEEEEH’ .. bleh.”
I’m not meaning to sound like that they’ll be removed, but like you said, the process of obtaining may be messed up. Like with the Azure whelpling, the goblins will be moving in so how will that effect the area? =o
I’m not really worried about pets disappearing (since most of the affected area’s skins are available elsewhere); I’m more concerned about the loss of availability at low levels.
But to make it fair, maybe some really cool new pets shows up in those areas. After all, if Deathwing is surging out of the ground, perhaps will some some fiery basilisks that may become tameable, or some of fiery pets.
Well Rikaku remember there is another ‘pod’ .. school? .. flight? .. mob? group? herd? Dx whatever of blue dragons in winterspring- it’s where originally I thought the whelps dropped lol.
This would also possibly fix up emerald whelplings now. I feel so bad farming there as people need to quest on those whelps :/ and when I try to farm when no one should be questing, there’s almost always between 1 to 6 bots there and I just throw my hands up and give up.
The whelps should drop from Sunken Temple imo Dx or something
or hey, spawnable nests? Like the raptors?
about Sunken temple and Swamp of sorrows. Will that place undergo anny major changes? Im guessing its minor as no info about it has poped up anywhere.
Its the only place you can get a green serpent. And the emerald whelpling as Ryai mentioned.
Come to think of it, some of the new zones are effected by cataclysm too through phasing. We saw those cool mastiffs in the Worgen zone and since Worgen can be hunters its not entirely unreasonable to think they might be tamable. I didn’t see if they were beasts or not, but if the rest of us wanted one I hope they’d survive the phasing thing or be elsewhere too.
Bullet: I think those are possible vanity pets not pet pets.
Hopefully, we get more back, then we get taken away.
While the height of water required to flood 1k needles to the top without swamping feralas or tanaris is a valid point.. i dont think blizzard always necessarily considers these factors. For example, upon inspection of Sholazaar while camping rares, i realized 1) the rivers flow IN from the ocean, which doesnt happen in reality to my knowledge, 2) FOUR waterfalls dump into the rivers heart, and yet it does not flood even though there is no outlet for the water to leave that area.
just an example, sayin weird non-logical stuff still may happen, not trying to pick a fight or anything :)
NOBA!! HOW DARE YOU BE LOGICAL!!!!
*Coughs* But seriously, I see the Goblins of Tanaris going “OH !@#$! WATER!” And promptly building a dam. Because while Blizzard has done some silly things, I don’t think I could excuse seeing a fifty foot high wall of water just suddenly ending where Tanaris begins.
Which brings up the interesting question of exactly HOW we are going to get from Barrens to Tanaris. Bridges? A series of rafts put together? Good old fashioned swimming?
Well Palla, with the Introduction of Fliers in some zones of Azeroth, Maybe Tanaris will be one? After all it seems as if Southern Barrens is going to be more higher level oriented correct?
You know Gim, I didn’t even think about that. *Scratches his chin* And they are redoing leveling. I guess we really do just have to wait and see. I’d imagine the alpha either will start or is already underway, and we should see the beta inside of two months. I’d say the beta will hit shortly after 3.3 goes live.
I thougt Southern Barrens was the lowbie content- with the changes, and northern held the higher content. Seeing as it gets kasploded; and lowbie taurens would be shuffled straight to Camp T.
UNLESS THAT IS WHY THERE IS NOW A ZEP.
We get first class seats to the end of the world as we know it.
*shot*
Noba:
Not to mention the endless supply of water coming from the tiny floating islands in Nagrand!
Ryai:
Can’t believe I didn’t consider the possibility that most of those pinnacles could collaspe… just gotta wait and see I suppose
Edit:
And yeah, I’ve that zep from Org to TB is 100% because of the barrens splitting, guessed that the moment it was implemented
Hi Mania! Do you think you will put out a post or make a page when the Beta for Cat goes live, to list all of the pets that are going to be ‘extinct’? This way we can check to see if something we haven’t tamed yet won’t be around much longer, and we can have time to work to get that special pet before it’s too late. I know that what happens in Beta doesn’t neccesarily go live, but it gives a pretty good idea. I have 4 hunters right now, and each one has a special pet that they are not high enough lvl to get yet. I am a casual player and I don’t have time to lvl them ALL up before the expansion, so knowing in advance what pets will be missing will help in deciding which toon to spend the most time on. I’m sure there are other hunters in the same situation. Thanks! Your website is a wonderful hunter resource! Thank you for all the time and hard work you put into it! :)
Don’t think it’s your biggest priority Mania but Vile Sting is a rare elite though it doesn’t say so on Petopia. I just tamed him again today on my BE hunter (old hunter I hadn’t used in quite some time on my home server and decided to play again) and I witnessed him killing two feral druids beforehand. Haven’t felt so accomplished since the last time I tamed him, and since I tamed King Krush :)
A suggestion to help add a little extra umpff to BM would be maybe a buff for all beasts in group/raid,much like TSA for MM just to help make that spec a little more raid friendly
Fawna:
I’m sure Mania will. She’s covered 2 expansions thoroughly lol
Bloodspill: that would be minimal unless there were more than 3 hunters or more than a couple of feral druids. And PuG wise I just saw a VoA 25 I was in earlier complain when we had 5 hunters, even tho only I was BM [hur]
But outside that there were only 2 feral druids so, that sort of buff is kinda not helpfull for BM hunters.
We need a shot, or better group buffing for all, not specific creatures. Or all BM pets to do 5% moar dmg.
In the article you mentioned the Night Elves in Darkshore relocating up north to Mathystra Ruins, and I’m not sure that’s accurate. In the screenshots and trailer you can see that they’ve actually taken over the troll village that you had to climb into before. The Darkshore elves are all standing around troll huts with dead trolls at their feet. So Mathystra Ruins may very well be just fine.
Wait, you mean the trolls that only danced about? D: they killed them?
Omfg horrible murderous night elves D:
Yeah I remember the annoyance of running through the Stonetalon Mountains and avoiding mobs and such is a pain – but it does have a really nice Pacific-Northwestern forest look to the place. I have to admit that I never completed my horde quests there just because of the travel time. I always did mean to go back.
I wonder if Sun Rock Retreat will be destroyed and they open a flight point at Malaka’Jin (though there always shoulda been one there anyway). If Mt Stonetalon is turned into an active volcano now, theres a pretty good chance the peak could be wiped out… Charred Vale appears to be going under lava, so unless the vale is the exit point for the lava, then it would have to flow down from the peak I’d imagine.
And if that were the case, it’d certainly take out those pretty cats up there, and less importantly, the Alliance ( :P ).
In any case, I certainly hope there is an extra flight point added to the region, for both sides, it’s an aweful long run, even with players being able to have mounts at 20
“In fact, Takk is probably extra-safe since he is now related to the Leaping Hatchling mini-pet.”
In the upcoming patch 3.3, all rares that drop a vanity pet will no longer do so.
Instead, you may now find the vanity pet associated to the rare mob inside small nests that spawn throughout the area of the rare mob.
If I know those crazy Goblins and Gnomes, they will turn the Salt Flats into a boat racing track! that will be fun to watch.
boat racing isnt all its cracked up to be jumping sharks is where its at
*Chuckles* Nice Happy Days reference there…..I thought of Wrath as jumping the shark, and Cataclysm as sort of a return to a simpler time.
I think the official names are Northern Barrens and Southern Barren.
I’m hoping to get into the Cataclysm beta (who isn’t?) but for what may be something of an odd reason: I’m not too impressed with what’s been revealed of Cataclysm so far, and I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised. (Which means that I should probably start leveling one or another of my hunters like mad—just in case.)
That said: I’m in favor of sprite darter eggs no longer being BoP (and possibly sprite darters being reclassified as beasts and made tamable). And I’d like to once again put in a word for basilisks, hydras, diemetradons, and pterrordax as hunter pets…and for the addition of more warp stalkers.
Farseer: You do know the Darters -are- for a quest, like the whelps in Swamp of Sorrows right? Meaning half the time people go there to kill them, isn’t for a chance for a sprite darter. But to do a quest, right? And the ONLY reason why there AREN’T bots farming it is because of the darters being BoP, which is why they also have a LOW droprate 1/100. And even with that low of a droprate you can still spend in excess of an hour farming them for a drop.
So no, the sprite darter should stay bop, it deters gold farmers AND bots :/
Yes, I’m aware of what the darters are for. Disagreement does not equal incomprehension. If we want to “deter” bots and gold farmers, the answer is to actively crack down on them.
dude, the BoP also means it has a -lower- chance to drop than non BoP farmable pets. You also do get that too right? There is nothing wrong with only horde having to grind a pet for about, if things go right for them, as long as the alliance quest takes to do.
There’s also the fact that the quest is most likely still going to exist, and possibly be even shorter and easier for people to do; it might even incorperate the ally player not even having to leave feralas.
And don’t you think that already happens? I report bots, it gets taken care of. But the problem is Farseer, is on Terrokar after I reported 2 gold farmer/level farmer bots in the same zone, I got a message that made me realize how bad the botting comunity is. It seems alot of the bots now aren’t just chinese players [*shot for sterotyping*] but people who have BOUGHT gold.
So as people continue to buy gold they will continue to comprimise their accounts, allowing them to possibly become bots, and farming in places that drop pets. There’s also the fact gold botters/farmers will HACK accounts as my friend got hacked by one a few months ago and it destroyed/devistated our whole guild bank untill GM’s restored/sorted the mess out and got her characters back all their gear.
one BoP drop pet is a -small- price for horde to pay to spit lemon juice in the eye of gold farmers, bots and all that ilk. AND have a LOW droprate to boot :/
lower chance as in not 1/1000 but 1/100 bleh.*
In the case of Araga/Old Cliff Jumper, I am quite concerned about the destruction of Southshore/raising of the level cap of The Hinterlands. Will it mean we won’t see either of these single-skinned beasts again? I am hoping that Blizzard will adopt the rule that all those who tamed prior to Cat’s release gets to keep the old vanilla pets as they were, instead of submitting them to a re-skin due to the terrain alteration, or worse still, making them untameables.
Part of me thinks Blizzard’s introduction of swimming mounts has something to do with water-bound pets, or at least a quest involving water-bound pets (re: questline/chain similar to the Ravasaur mount for Horde). And it does sort of beg the question about being able to travel underwater for long periods of time…will sharks be a viable family? I know, I think stupid things, but part of me is rather interested in taming those hammerhead sharks for an underwater-based raid.
It’s a running joke in my guild that if Sharks become tameable, there’ll be a few of us hunters swimming around with DeepBlueSea, JAWS and Sharkbait XD I can dream, can’t I? *snickers*
Though I for one hope they alter pet slots to something similar like they’ve done for mounts/vanity pets. Or a 20-slot pet stable. Either/or. In short, I’ve had to level a few hunters on various serves just to “save” the pets I adore; because let’s face it, you can’t stop at five =)
Regarding the odd water flow in Sholazar and Nagrand: one is surrounded by ice and snow, sustained entirely by titan created technology, the other is part of the shattered wreck of a planet floating in the Twisting Nether. A few anomalies are to be expected ;)
There’s actually a fair bit of scope for flooding Thousand Needles without flooding Tanaris and without changing the terrain too much – the salt flats are already lower than the desert (check it out next time you ride over the pass in the mountain range between Gadgetzan and the flats) and the desert itself is only just above sea level. All the Cataclysm has to do is crack the mountain range east of the salt flats and the ocean would come pouring in. Blizz might decide to do something more exotic anyway, but the existing terrain means that do have the option of keeping it simple. If they do keep it simple, most of the gorge area would probably remain above water (although, as was pointed out, pillars toppling is definitely a possibility).
Regarding the Northern/Southern Barrens split, I got the impression that both Durotar and Mulgore would be feeding into Northern Barrens, with Southern Barrens becoming a higher level area. Going by the colour coded map, you could make that work by having the current Mulgore-Barrens pass closed by the Cataclysm and a new pass open up in the northeast corner. That wouldn’t change the overall Mulgore quest flow or terrain much (just a tweak to the “move on to the next zone” quest to send players northeast instead of to Camp Taurajo).
I wonder if we might see the goblins expanding Steamwheedle Port to cope with deepwater ships in order to make getting to Tanaris a bit easier though.
Yeah but geographically the flats are still a bit of a hurdur, mean even with the mountain cracking or an earthquake unleashing an underground river. The more I think about it, the more this is one of the most improbable places ever. [the river heart or whatever in the basin could be explained away as there's an underground river that the water leaks into, mean underground river/lakes happen, sometimes so drastically as that lake in russia where the WHOLE LAKE disappeared into an underground river system... that lead to an above ground river.]
Cause I mean as someone said there’s an old high elf, HIGH ELF, boat there. HOW DID IT GET THERE? Tanaris at one point had to be connected to the ocean- cause that cliff/mountain ‘protecting’ the flats isn’t really easily explained away for a formation. So at one time, atleast some of Tanaris, the flats, 1k and some of Feralas had to be under water.
Echeyakee … its still possible to get this cats skin in winterspring so im not too worried as long as that one stays as least alliance can get it too
Certainly we will lose a lot of options unless scorpions get water breathing or raptors sprout wings. We won’t know until after the fact which beasts we should have added to the stable while we had the chance but some seems more likely to go the way of the dodo than others. Example: The old pre-bc end game instances are due for a overhaul, no one is running BRD at 58 when they can quest in outlands and run Ramps for some really Xp and gear so BRD might be ripe for an overhaul and it is the one place to tame the red skin core-hound. We can only guess as to which of pets available now will be able available later and what new pets will become tameable. My prediction, gryphons and manticores :)
I would love a grypohn pet, but if you ask me, they seem a step above raptors. Alliance, especially the Wildfeather/Peak/Hammer/Heart whatever their name has had gryphons as pets and allies for a god while. Gryphons seem extra smart to know, “Hey, if we work and fly with these guys. They give us FOOD! Plus shelter!” They’ve also gotten to the point where they can quite easily show compassion and quick thinking to save their masters.
Gryphons, thereby, seem unlikely. Plus, it seems a bit odd to have a gryphon charge and peck your face off. Now a gryphon mini pet without the sickening baby features would be nice.
I want, though, some of the old skin wolves, no more Northrend ones. They look ugly.
Speaking of Griffon pets, weren’t there supposed to be a Wyvern and a Griff vanity pet? And Corehound?
… wait- could they possibly be ‘Store Pets’ like lil KT and the pandaren?
I agree Firewing, I absolutely LOATHE the Warg skins… I love the Regular wolf skins and the Plague Hound skin, and I am alright with the Direwolves except they have a strange looking Galloping animation as their run, but I can’t stand the poor, unnourished, and frail looks of the Wargs… although I think Skoll is pretty neat looking for his Storm-element features.
Gimlion: It’s as I told my friend. The northrend wargs are over exagerated sight hounds- like Deerhounds, Wolfhounds, Russian Wolfhounds/Borzois. Basically the legs, head shape AND the deep chest going so suddenly to a shallow-ish abdomin. I don’t get why I didn’t see it before [Wolfhound fanatic here], but that’s what the wargs are an exageration of.
I know that, but it still doesn’t make me like them anymore… Being kind of an Animal lover (not enthusiast or against eating meat or things like that, I just love animals) Its strange seeing such a starved pup, but I do understand what they are based off of.
being that i am a HORDE hunter, in 3.1 patch, the spite darter mini pet drops also for horde in feralas. and if u all want to talk about fixing dps on pet talents, they should merg shark attack with spiked collar.
Goraan we know the sprite darter drops for horde, but the alliance can’t kill those particular sprite darters in order to get the drop.
I agree Gimlion, the basic concept of the Northrend wolves are pretty awesome, but they look so emaciated that I just feel bad for them.
Firewing, bats and dragonhawks can already be tamed, and both of those show a similar intellect. Though I will grant you that the Wildhammer gryphons are smarter then the average be-….er, gryphon, I don’t think they stand as testimony to all gryphons. That and I totally want to tame one. *Laughs*
I’ve give you that. I also would be right in line to tame a gryphon. “We’ll be with you in a moment. Take a number and we’ll get your gryphon pet shortly….please hold.”
Pterradaxes are nice. I do want hydras. Hmm….foxes I wouldn’t mind. More cat varities, ( I <3 cats.) some new skins in general.
sprite darters – couldn’t a horde get an alliance quester to open the cage and then just go in and sit. later. after the alliance is gone, a few (?) rounds of volley should get mass quantities of sprite darters in their cage – fish in a barrel. it also is no fun doing it this way I figure. I think they should remain BoP of course.
however I *don’t* recommend it :) just wondering about the mechanics of it.
I’m very curious actually to see the results of the cataclysm. taking old environments away might also mean taking old pets away too – to be replaced with new skins tho
If anything stands as testimony for an intelligent creature; we can tame demi gods [Loque'Nak] and raptors. Now, raptors may not seem so smart at first glance but there are SEVERAL horde quests, and a few netrual quests that continually hint at raptors, especially Barren raptors AND Un’goro raptors as being deadly smart. And the only barrier between them and being considered a race most likely is they’re beasts and they can not speak.
And mean while I know that not all beasts are intelligent, saying ‘it’s to intelligent to tame’ is like throwing out half the lore for the be damned beasts you can tame.
I want a griff. I mean the vanity pet might be squish [and god I want the corehound and the wyvern so baaaad DDD: so baaaad guys], it is an epic model full sized- same with wyvern and hippogriffs.
Tho Wyverns SQUISH horribly when running.
But.
Hydra.
-Hydra-.
THE GHOST HYDRA WAS JUST THE BEGINING. RISE UP AND DEMAND MOAR.
I so want a hydra……with like an acid spit or something….
I’m hoping Un’Goro just completely blows up. >_> All of it. Take the devilsaurs from there with it. Or perhaps, flood it and fill it with NEW turtle models…we’ve had what? 3 turtle skins for all of eternity? Green, Purple, Red? lol
Naturae. How selfish are you?
Seriously.
You want easy as dirt to obtain turtles, to replace the majority of ONE OF BM’S DPS BEASTS. Just because you want more turtles and that’s your only solution to get more skins added to the five existing ones?
And not just that, remove an ENTIRE quest hub AND, not just that, AND RAVASAUR TRAINER?
So really, how selfish is your request :/
Raptors are pretty much safe since they thrive in eastern kingdom ( wetlands ) kalimador and northend and the raptors in ZD have Tak the leapers skin My big question which i havent heard much about is felwood? finished questing there with my frost mage sorry Palla!! ( chuckles ) is blizz gonna clean that up hope so!! When I was questing there i didnt see anyone else no Alliance or horde there just me was freaky.. and I think that 1K Needle will get a complete make over? maybe the pinnacles all topple and form a large island? but i do hope they create new pets we need a new beast look with the new continent look…
sorry double post!! But turtles have lots of different colors like blue, purple, rust,yellow and brown and green!! Un’Goro i think will be safe unless the new land changes have more areas for Devilsaurs to roam and I think a few dino’s should be added like triceratops stegasaurus and others would be a sweet addition..
Wolve I like the ghostpaw style and the black skins like Rema the den mothers and those in the Hinterlands and of course gotta keep Old cliff jumper!! But I think a new ferocity pet like a giant wolverine like beast would be good that could burrow
underground and pop up to attack would be rad since warpstalkers warp and appear by the target why not a burrowing attack? just a thought??
Naturae, the next devilsaur up to tame is level 70, so I have to disagree with you. You may have had a bad experience in Un Goro, but that doesn’t mean it should be screwed for everyone else. And for turtles….? Really? No. Just….just no.
I love Un’goro. So I also disapprove.And, also.
Mana wyrms. Do want.
I kind of want a spell to let us temporarily tame something like Dragonkin. So you have a ‘Summon whelp’ or ‘Summon Drake’ spell, which lasts, I dunno, a minute. Like the combat mithril whelp. Then has a 5-10 min cooldown.
Then again, I just really like dragons. :p
My main reason for even mentioning Devilsaurs from Un’Goro is because there are so many that virtually every BM hunter has one from there. xD There are only like 4 different devilsaur models but that one in particular is very common on my server. They should add new devilsaurs to low-level areas where raptors wander! :P
Naturae, you do realize that you contradict yourself? You complained about turtles, yet admit there are only 4 skins. And 3 of which are only available readily- one exclusively, to the crater. And ignoring the fact that like how everyone has been wanting something related to Pandaren [heard Pandaren monk codes sold out in the US..] those very same people have been wanting a devilsaur? Which is the reason one of my friends rolled a hunter? He I guess in the early months of the game thought they were tameable. Or he dreamed they one day would be. Or they inspired him to roll a hunter.
And why would Devilsaur’s suddenly exist outside the crater?
And there really aren’t that many. They all share the same spawn paths and points. And at any given time the skin you specifically want is most likely not going to be up. I had to search for an hour and a half almost to ‘find’ a white devilsaur once.
And think about it. As said; the easiest to tame RED/BRONZE saur is in the crater. The only place to tame a white saur, is in the crater.
Then there’s also the fact that; Devilsaur’s aren’t common on my server, SPARKLEPETS [no offense spirit beasts] are more common. Why? I’ve only seen a few other BM hunters who are end game and trying to make their specc work like I am. Others gave up and rolled MM/SV. The rest have BM to have SPARKLEPETS for show.
Then ofc there’s the fact that not only are devilsaurs cool, they’re one of the ‘top three’ pets, since, Blizz has decided no, instead of making 5 top teir pets for normal hunters and 5 exotics for BM, they only really made Devilsaur’s viable.
That and there’s also the fact of ‘Ravasaur trainer’ exists only in the crater.
That’s because that’s the only place that really has them, Naturae. And we can’t tame them until sixty anyway. *Laughs* There is one easy to tame devil in Outlands, and one rare, one boss in Northrend. We’re a little short on taming spots for big and angries. But I do know what you’re saying. However exotics are just that, exotic. They don’t have a ton of skins, they don’t have a ton of spawn points. That is in comparison with non-exotics.
Palla: Nuh we need more exotic skins D:
@ Naturae
Ehehehe. You have a grumpy frowny >:| face.
Ahem. Anyway, I do confess I feel the same way about Auberdine, but only because the quest hubs and lay-out, I’ve found, are awful. DO NOT WANT. It’s too gray, as well. :p
*back pedals* Don’t hate me! I merely hate the place! *hides from the shoes!*
Now, I think Un’goro should also be left alone, because of the possibility of dimetradons and pteradaxxes. Two new possible pet families. BAM! Right there. However….know a place that can get blown to smithereens in my opinion? Silithus! I’ve never nuderstood the point of the place except for AQ. Honestly. (Okay, maybe not. AQ 20 and 40 are there.)
I’m not saying it shoud go but how is Ungoro going to survive? I mean it’s the deapest point in the old world isn’t it? If any place was going to flood or explode with lava it would be there. I mean it’s so marchy the water level must be close to the survice.
And Silithus should dofetlently go. The bugs are just too creepy
Zin’s got a point, it’s the lowest point in the game! Also, I am not a grumpy frowny face! =[
Fake Poll: Should we also seek the destruction (that was nearly given to us last expansion) of Orgrimmar. xD
Because think about it.
In Northrend, Arthas or rather his undead scourge minions for the most part, are unable to get into there. Why? The beacons- destroying one was the only way they were able to get in. And outside that, it seems not even Deathwing’s sundering of the world or anything short of the Titan’s wiping the slate clean effect, will affect Un’Goro or the Basin.
Now ofc there are some forces as said that have circumvated[?] the guarding factors of the crater/basin, but, these have all been -unnatural-
And don’t you all remember the quest? That has you loot a bit of flesh from a Threshadon? In the crater?
How did a threshadon get there in the first place? How was 1k flooded enough for the flats to have to be connected to the ocean? For there to be a boat there?
This all kinda hints that tanaris was flooded before; but something kept the water out.
AKA the stone and crystal wards we all see.
NTM the GIANT freaking Plesiosaur skeletons in Tanaris… how in sam hell were those to get there unless Tanaris was once flooded… I just don’t quite get when this happened b/c if these two places (not 1k) were flooded and then ‘protected’ by the Titan Pillars… how were they part of the Ocean??? the titan’s were here well before the Great Sundering, which is when Kalimdor (the very original continent) broke up and a large part of the middle just got gobbled up by the Maelstrom… there was no ocean there, and nothing seems to state it was once flooded, no reports, no history, no nothing… So IMO these places were once a very, VERY large lake or small Sea bed and were drained into the Ocean when the Great Sundering took place.
Gimlion I think those are actually dragon skeleontons[arg can never spell it] and stegodon bones. There’s several bones of dragons in 1k, tho the one I readily remember is close to Freewind post, in the direction of the salt flats.
Tho now you have me questioning, there’s always been this OTHER Plesiosaur/pliosaur[?] remains, you know the ones I mean, not the Threshadon, the one that’s usually lacking the complete front half of the creature.
Yet. We. Never. See. It.
Soooo….lemme get this straight. In Sholozar, you have the nifty pillars, which creates kind of a giant no-bad-things allowed forcefield, which the Titans only put to protect their artifacts and good stuff….
Un’goro is also supposedly rich in these artifacts, too…right? And so the North, East. and West pylons keep the place safe?
As for how it happened….I think in lore it says the Titans made Azeroth, appointed the dragons as protectors, then said, “Bye! G’luck! You’re on your own now!” My guess is Tanaris was flooded, (Lake Tanaris!) and some of the water, dripped down into Crater, making it marshy and wet, but not to the point of a lake. Let’s say the Titans scattered lore and artifacts in numerous places, namely Basin and Crater, for their creations to one day find, admire, and worship or something to the extent. They created artifacts to protect their places to the point where nothing came happen unless all pylons/pillars and destroyed.
Of course, this could all be redunant, I have no idea what I’m talking about, and am pulling stuff out of the air. :3
Apparently my blockquote didn’t go through properly.
“Hatchlings: Leaping, Darting, Razormaw, and Ravasaur Hatchlings no longer drop from their associated rare creatures. Instead, there are now rare nests that spawn which contain these hatchlings. For example, the Leaping Hatchling can now be found in Takk’s Nest rather than as a drop from Takk the Leaper.”
I think blizz needs to put something up on their website to say what pets will be added and wut pets while be destroed (sry don’t kno how to spell :p) I don’t want any pets to go away :( wut pets will my wearwolf hunter will get? Wut pets will other hunters get?
Well there’s a dinosaur in Darkshore…complete opposite of 1k and Un’Goro and I don’t know why. Someone splain. It’s all dead and icky. Oh and why can’t we tame giant turtles?!
Naturae: Do you mean the Threshadon corpses and the mysterious threshadon corpses? Those are in the waters and etc around darkshore and everywhere else. Or do you mean skull with the sword stabbed thru it? If you do that’s actually an Old God either dead or bound via that sword.
Sooo…for the gryphons I got a neat idea. Basically, depending on whether you want a hippogryph, gryphon, or wyvern, you go to Feralas (A)/Stonetalon (H), Hinterlands/Hinterlands (A and H) and Stonetalon(A)/Barrens (H).You do a few quests to get an egg….which you have for two, three days like Oracle one. When it hatchs, you do dailies to feed it, yes…but we can also incorparate some kind of emotes to teach it skills. Example: /growl Firewing growls menacingly at Gryphon Hatchling. Gryphon Hatchling casts growls. And you teach it spells like that. Eventually, after a few weeks, you have your adult gryphon/hippogryph/wyvern.
Abilities: Gryphon: Gouge
Hippogryph: Toss
Wyvern: Tail Jab
So, like the hunter bow quests, you work for it. It’s just random, incoherent parts, but I do like using emotes to teach it.
Double:
Ew. Pardon my awful editting skills…it’s early.
@ Ryai: Yes, I am fully aware of the deal with the sprite darters. Again, disagreement does not equal incomprehension. So stop asking me if I “get it.” It just makes you sound condescending.
Damn I had forgotten all about this argument. Had to actually scroll up.
I wasn’t trying to be condescending. I was just trying to explain why the sprite darters should be BoP and should remain BoP; as unlike other pets they are the only one I have seen that do NOT get farmed. And the only reason is because of the BoP.
I dont know if someone said this already, and I’m feeling too lazy to read all the posts, but Echeyakee is a Horde quest summon. Just felt like I should clarify.
@Keltarking
Yup, though with all the new quests they’re likely adding, we could see Echeyakee gone…Or even a skelly version of him! Anyway, I think there’s just no possible way to predict what’ll go on, after all, I know Blizzard blew multiple people’s mind with the intro of Cata. Least, did for me.
Personally I am gonna be worried not about rares but rather normal mobs around the world. Look at Frostsaber Stalkers, I knew many hunters logging in very unhappy that their white cats developed stripes. And Silvermane stalkers that used to be gray wolves and are now black. Although I didn’t know anyone who had those tamed when the switch happened.
Me personally, have had my Ghostpaw Alpha for years and years and I would hate to see them changed from the xpac.
Oh and on a side note, I copied a low level hunter that had a thistle boar from Teldrassil to the PTR, it is no longer the “blonde” boar that it was.
um…
remember Scarlet Monastery?
if the rightmost wing is destroyed no more hyenaskinred A.K.A Scarlet Tracking Hound.
unless a Scarlet Hound or two escape.
(Scarlet Hounds come from Western Plaguelands)
My guess is there will be a trade off. We’re going to lose some skins, or some easily accessible ones, but we ARE however, going to get some many new, cooler ones. If you ask me, if you like a skin, tame it. If you can’t….make room. And if you can’t do that…there’s always screenies?
And, they might make more corehounds.
Think. Lava + Destruction = Corehounds! *cackles!*
i can sum this up in three lines.
!Lava + Destruction = Corehounds=new Corehound skins! please?
that is all.
eh.. five lines.
happy!
I want more Kurken-esque looks. Like a black one with red or green flames. Or a bronze with black.
hmm…
bronze skin with bronze/red flames!
who wants new corehound skins?
me! me! me!
I like CH’s but it still seems as if they should be Tenacity… i mean come on, they are practically two headed bears!
Change Core Hound Lava breath from a caster slow to something more useful and they’d work fine for Tenacity OR Ferocity imo. As caster slows don’t work on bosses do they? And even if they do what if you’re fighting a MELEE boss urg.
Like maybe a debuff- it causes the target to take xx% additional fire damage. Or Armor is reduced xx% or something. Or maybe a DoT that increases fire damage taken.
I mean come on then we would be buffing Warlocks/Mages/Shaman/SV hunters[?] and actually be BENIFICIAL to party/raid! OMG. .-.
If Scarlet Monestary is actually being changed or something, this would explain why the hounds in WPL are becoming tameable, as no doubt the scarlets would -still- be there, urg. Arthas couldn’t kill them, zombies couldn’t kill them, I doubt Deathwing’s rageface fit is gonna off them either.
true.
of course that was just speculation.
I’ve been thinking a bit more since I posted about the core hound’s lava breath. Why not make all pet attacks benificial like that? Or like what they did with Rhino’s… … stampede.
Like say, Wind Serpents could increase, for a short time, the amount of nature damage taken by the target. Like for 5-8 seconds, can’t occur more than once every 15-45 seconds. Netherays: theirs causes volnurability to shadow damage for the same amount. And Sithilid/scorpid/serpents/sporebats cause the same for poisons, or possibly bleed effects?
Maybe Monstrous Bite could also work as a sort of Armor Debuff/Attack debuff of sorts. Not as strong as the pets with a pure debuff for that, but mean, the Devilsaur is growing to imense sizes and whatnot. It should strike some terror or do something a bit demoralizing or damaging to the ‘opponents armor’.
This could actually possibly even improve Spirit Beasts, if their Spirit Strike could INCREASE arcane damage taken too.
hmm…
good idea!
but what about tallstriders? they just have dust cloud. no damage, just a miss on the next attack.
well?
oh yeah, comment 123 was my first comment.
the dust clouds give increased dodge rating?
maybe 1000 extra dodge rating for 6-7 seconds?
note: i was going to say 1000 extra dodge for 3 seconds, but that seems overpowered.
ack! triple post!
just to clear this up: dodge and dodge rating are two different things.
So this is my first time making any comments- It’s no longer worth trying to tame Humar anyways – They took away his elite status as a pet now. I saw another hunter running around with Gondria and moused over just to check him out better. No elite status. I ran to the stable master pulled out my Ashes (Humar) and again no elite status. So they’re changing that also. What’s the point in keeping an elite rare skin if it doesn’t get to keep the elite status (don’t mind dps being normal) but part of the reason we wait so patiently for Humar is his status.
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the reason we wait for pets like Raging Agam’ar and Rotting Agam’ar is the ELITE STATUS!…and the armor.
QQ them! lots!
or give us armored pets with elite status.
maybe a pet armorer? which costs gold, silver, or copper depending on level.
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