PTR 3.3: Spectral Bear?
Blizzard pushed a new build (10676) to the 3.3 PTR today and updated the patch notes to match.
There’s nothing particularly interesting to hunters in the patch notes, but MMO Champion did notice a new skin in the data: the Spectral Bear.
Is this the newest Spirit Beast? Stay tuned … and let me know if you see him on the PTR!
Table of Contents for Series: Patch 3.3
- PTR 3.3 Notes Posted
- PTR 3.3 – Unnoted Hunter Changes
- Ghostcrawler on Pet Avoidance
- PTR 3.3: Culling the Herd, Cower Revised
- PTR 3.3: Faster Pet Leveling
- PTR 3.3: Spectral Bear?
- PTR 3.3: Northshire Wolves Getting Sick
- PTR 3.3: Arcturis the New Spirit Beast
- Patch 3.3: Arcturis the Spirit Bear, Diseased Wolves in Elwynn and More
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Heres hopeing this isnt another rare spawn, I’m not the most patient person and rare camping isnt my thing :P
EVERY spirit beasts are rare, at least up to this point.
I really want more stable slots…
Another beast that no one will want to use (if they raid). Poor BM — Blizz keeps adding things but I don’t know if BM will ever recover from the Nerf bat it got.
I raid BM with Skoll regularly and do respectable and competetive DPS. We’re not, admittedly, a tier-1 guild, but we are solid. This patch will only make BM more viable.
I want this one a LOT.
*sobs* I’m out of stable sloooooooooooots!!!! *cries and stamps feet* GIVE ME MORE SLOTS NAO!
Elenion, I’m well aware that all spirit beasts up until now have been rare which is why none of my 3 hunters owns one, I was stating that I hope they’d give us at least one non-rare spirit beasts. I agree wholeheartedly on the wish for more stable slots, my primary hunter has atm 4 untameable, as of now, pets.
obviously a step towreds letting us tame druids since that is a redone druid bear form :D
Hmmmmm well it’s not Hati, Skoll’s brother. But this is very awesome looking none the less.
Hmm, anyone wanna guess which zone this one spawns in?
*Places bet on Grizzly Hills*
Well if it is Grizzly Hills then it’s not gonna be a lv 80 SB, prolly about the same as I guess STD Cat or Loque, possibly lower.
And tbh I like the skin, it appeals to me more than STD cat- but yeah after that wears off the blockiness of the model really does damper/hamper the overall cool effect of the pet.
That and well I wish it wasn’t the same as STD cat in the ‘we just slap and dashed something together for you guys!!!’
This is good. We’re moving down the list, now. Two cats, a wolf, a bear….
Here’s hoping they hit more obscure pet families with the Spirit Stick with the next patches.
Ever since Skoll was announced in Storm Peaks I’d figured they’d add a spirit beast in Icecrown in 3.3. Bear doesn’t seem very Icecrowny though!
Er you do realize STD cat is about the same ranking as this; Loque is in the basin, Skoll is in SPeaks, STD cat is in ZD, the zones aren’t really truly connected or have any real pattern. It seems they make a spirit beast and stick it randomly somewhere. IE Loque in the basin. THE BASIN. -BASIN- and his mate is in ZD [it's why I think he got punted there to remain hidden from the trolls], and STD cat makes no sense whatsoever, I mean it’s a riding tiger cat, it has no relation to Harkoa, it’s a tiger not a leopard…
Skoll fits where he’s been put.
And the bear is most likely destined for Grizzly hills, as now that I thought about it more, what is in Grizzly Hills? Bears. Bears bears bears, two bear demi god siblings, a rezzed bear god gone mad, FURBOLGS lets NOT forget them AND MORE BEARS.
OR.
This COULD go into ZD with STD cat; once again ZD has bears.
The one good thing is this -can’t- be in Wintergrasp.
Are we sure that this isn’t a minipet?
Cause it could be some stupid mini-pet like the whole Jade tiger before.
I mean has Bob actually measured it with another normal sized creature?
Bar…Skoll…Bar…Skoll…Bar! Me want! /hate those underfed scrawny wolves, and since I already have my Oathbreaker(vargul blighthound) a bear would fit right in. I’ve been halfway camping Skoll, which tells me I’m not really into getting him. I had my Loque in 2 weeks of straight camping. So, I stop camping Skoll, unhearth from Brunnhildar, and get on with life until patch!
well if it is a new Spirit Beast, I’d be happy. Cat(s), Wolf, bear…Raptor next? I am still waiting until a Hyena SB comes out, then I can toss the 3 SB I have atm and open up a few more stable slots.
Yeah it would be nice if Blizzard gave us more stable slots, but then we start going from Taming pets we need/use to just collecting every cool new “toy” pet that comes along…we already have enough slots to test out/use 1 Tenacity, 1 Ferocity, and 1 Cunning pet, while still having 2 slots left to play with.
for those who’s stable slots are full of no-longer obtainable pets, well, thats their choice.
I think that we have a good number of stable slots right now. 5 different pets to tame/train/choose from. Enough pets to fit the pve/raid/pvp/solo needs.
Makoes that’s all fine and dandy if you don’t have pets you’re attached to or don’t have retired pets; but my main has 2 rarespawns and 2 retired, and I just can’t release Jareth even if he is a common Devilsaur skin [the tame was not tho], that’s why people are clamoring for more stable slots, because I bet you 10 to one, they have pets they CAN NOT release AND retame.
So just saying ‘it’s your choice to load up on pets’ in a slight ‘you’re just QQing to QQ’ way isn’t really good. If I could I would release Aurelius and possibly Erebus on Ryai and tame them on two different alts; but I no longer have the option to do so. I barely got Ryai up in time to tame them and was just lucky enough to have the quest to summon the ghost Hydra like the day before it was retired.
So yes looking at it from your standpoint you have a good point, but coming from the perspective and owner of a hunter who really CAN’T release any of her pets? I understand why they along with myself wouldn’t mind atleast 1 more slot.
Besides, GC and other Devs have called BM the ‘pokemon specc’ basically, with that lame ‘gotta catch/tame them all!’ remark to boot.
You can have 6 pokemon.
Gimme six pet slots.
My bet is on a new bear spirit beast in Zul’Drak. ^^
I’m guessing that each zone will only have one SB and Zul’Drak already has Gondria. So we have Icecrown, Grizzly Hills, Dragonblight, Howling Fjord and Borean Tundra. I’m betting on Grizzly Hills, but am hoping that it’s in Icecrown, as it would be a LOT easier to look through… <.<
Ooooh shinyy, definitely the best spiritbeast yet if it gets true. Finally bears get some love again!
Now, i would bet it will spawn in Grizzly hills if it’s a rare, or maybe atop the mountain between Fjord and Grizzly Hills, that’d be cool. Battles atop the mountain for this spawn :P
There’s a little more for hunterpet tanking in the patch notes. I’ve read (though have not been able to confirm myself) that resilience on hunter pets will effect them in pve, least for crit cap. The minor set bonus attack power boost on gladiator gear next patch could help that if you roll that way.
On ghost the superbear: ehhhhhhh. Not a big fan of bears.
Oh My! This Spirit Beast looks AMAZING!
I do think us hunters need more stable slots…
Honestly, some hunters want to collect Spirit Beasts because they look awesome (They do look awesome!! =) ) But…we don’t have enough stable slot for other kind of pets.
Since I raid all the time, I own a wolf. When I PvP, I have a black cat and the white one and I also have the pink Tallstrider. But I also have BM/MM as my 2nd specc. So I have Gondria! =) I’m still thinking that she’s the prettiest Spirit Beast but yeah…I’d like to tame other Spirit beasts…just for fun.
Or maybe Blizz shouldn’t nerf BM ? I still don’t get why Blizz don’t want us to do as much dps as Surv and MM. Well, Don’t worry you guys, I PvE as a Surv hunter! ;-)
Someone brought up a good point and alot of people are going with it…what if its not a pet at all, and merely the dwarven spirit wolf…I can see that being very viable
so im guessing it will have spirit strike and prowl like the rest with no swipe like poor skoll never got howl.
My main is full, unless i drop loque or Skoll. Loque got unique model and was my first SB, Skoll i just love to bits cause he got two things i like, my fav color and fav element.. my second 80 hunter COULD possibly get it but im not so sure if i want two SB on her too.
i could burst my horde hunter up from 70(or my never used NE hunter thats been 70 for years). but that means ill have to drop the one freespot i have left for Skoll…now if this fella had just been a ghostly BEAR and not a SB…then i WOULD kick out my current bear and get it withouth second thoughts.
Though i guess a dpsing bear could be fun too.
and yes im guessing Grizzly hills too. it full off bears and bear god thingys.
The way we will really know is if someone finds him, sadly the dwarf shaman’s files are being put in the files already but arent playable
Um Shiro- Ghost wolf =/= Spectral bear. There’s a reason why shaman change into ghost wolves, there’s lore behind why they have a ghost wolf form, the samer way there’s lore/mechanics behind the reason they can if specced right, summon ethrel wolves into existance- so sorry but dorf getting ‘ghost bear’ isn’t going to happen.
Quoting here;
‘ Ghost wolf
See Ghost wolf
Shamans of moderate ability can change their form into a ghost wolf. This allows them to travel much faster than an average humanoid, but this ritual only works outdoors. ‘
‘ Spirit wolf
See Spirit wolf
Spirit wolves are used by far seers and shamans. ‘
But you have made me think of something what is the ONE thing we are ALL forgetting?
Druids.
In moonglade there’s the bear spirit and cat spirit- I think there’s a cat spirit, not been on a drood for awhile. What if THIS is replacing the drood’s bear spirit quest mob…?
i’ll be contrarian and guess icecrown for the new bear, should it turn out to be a spirit beast. just because there aren’t normal bears there now doesn’t mean there weren’t in the time before the scourge. the spirit bear is there and PO’d at the undead that have taken over.
i’d like more stable slots, but i’d like more character slots too. i have a full group of ten toons on my main server, only one of which is below 60 (the 35 druid i have no qualms about deleting for a troll). however, i want to roll a goblin or two, but won’t be able to on this server unless i delete TOONS or transfer them to other servers. either way is kodo droppings.
Well you can call it spectral…but most shamans have a tie to the ghost/spirit wolves theyre summoning they have ties with the nature and elements around them. We all know that dwarves have a very strong tie to bears so its very viable, im no tthe only one thinking this way.
As far as it being the quest toon i somehow doubt it, i would have expected to see the other spirits getting a revamp also…maybe time will tell, plus it seems a bit to miniscule for blizz to care to update
And as far as spirit wolve they are scavengers of the spirit world, called upon to do battle by the shamans…im talking about ghost wolf, as in their travel form. Trust me i play a shaman mainly i know their lore.
I’d really appreciate another Spirit Wolf (pet like) for Hunters.
I don’t know if you guys remember that ghost wolf we had to tame in 8 seconds to get…I never had the chance to get one myself, but I’d like to see another wolf like that…Maybe it could be a rare too? Bah..
And Shiro, you do realize that if Blizz did that, they would actually have to give different ‘spirit beast’ animals period? Dwarfen ties to bears aside? I somehow don’t see them being given a talent that goes ‘summons two ghost bears to fight at your side’- This is pretty much going the way of STD cat, there was no real official word for a while wasn’t there- and there was absolutely none for Skoll afaik, and it’s probably the same here.
So we’re kinda going to have to agree to disagree that this is ‘Travel Form/Summoned Creature’ for dorf shaman.
Well each hunter tree should have its own bank of stables, then the problem would be fixed once and for all for pve AND pvp players.
BEAR. Just what I wanted. lol But god, I WANT MORE STABLE SLOTS. ;.;
It could very well be replacing the great bear spirit in Moonglade or maybe it is a new Spirit Beast.
…Why am I getting this feeling Blizzard may add one spirit beast in every Northrend zone? (Loque’s in Sholazar, Skoll’s in Storm Peaks, Gondria’s in Zul’drak…)
>_>
Plus one every Content Patch thus far, so having it in 3.3 would make sense
This bear might as well spawn in Felwood, considering the events in upcoming cataclysm expansion. ^^
Lol
I personally would like to see a SB spider. Of course,I would want it to be a TBC spider model. I think those are the coolest. I have never camped a beast, but would conside it for a spider spirit beast.
If this is going to replace the old bear spirit in Moonglade, they probably would’ve done it by now. I took my druid to have a look at him as soon as I first heard about the theory and the spirit has remained unchanged.
Now I’m happy to have accidentally copied my hunter twice on the PTR realms, so I’m able to keep an eye on both Icecrown and Grizzly Hills without having to fly through Northend hundreds of times for nothing.
TBH i would want a spirit beast spider to be a Bone spider Model, those are my favorite =D
FINALLY some pet-related news. Now this ghostly bear is definitely interesting-looking to me. Cool. I like the blue on him/her. Much better looking than Gondria. The 1 Spirit Beast I do not (nor want) have. Blizzard definitely has to give Hunters more Stable slots now.
im sure they’ll give us more slots once more than 5 spirit beasts are available ha
Here’s hoping this isn’t a “Cat in Bear’s Clothing” :P
I so wish Skoll was adapted to be a true wolf spirit beast with Furious Howl (at least) and Bite, instead of Prowl (useless) and Claw.
Anyway. That’s my two cents :)
PS:
Totally would not mind seeing this continue the usual Spirit Beast tradition in being a ‘rare spawn’. Gives a new meaning to ‘Thrill of the Hunt’.
I wouldn’t bet on that, Gimilion. They didn’t increase our stable slots until we didn’t NEED as many anymore, and that took them four years. They tossed out plenty of bad excuses, and then did what they said they couldn’t do.
I’m hoping it’s just a reskin for the Great Bear Spirit in Moonglade…
And I refuse to tame a Spirit Beast until they make a Tallstrider one. :-P
I would love to have a spirit beast as a pet. I missed my chance at the hydra unfortunately.
Oh lol! I thought Blizz JUST said we would never tame the druid skin. All I can say, is this. I’m gonna name mine Fandral.
Where did you hear that from, Jang? We can already tame bird form and cat form….well, Night elf bird and cat form, anyway.
Actually Palla, the brown bird is the basic tauren flight form as well :p
Tho tbh I would kill for a cat like a tauren feral drood model. /drool.
Ofc without the horns /cough
Sorry, lemme clarify. I meant the new bear form model.
And yeah Ryai, that cat is super slick. All the cat models, even the riding tiger model, and pretty dated. It’d be nice if the game lions got updated.
*scratches his chin* That’s right, Ryai, I forgot that the travel forms all look alike.
It’s alright Palla- I only really remember the fact cause I have drood aquaintances.
And Jang- while I don’t want drastic changes, as you suggestedf slight upgradings to the models would be nice. Like less boxy legs/heads, the teeth actually you know teeth and not looking solid [the glitch is happening on some cat models, some tiger models and travel form for droods], and fixing colors on the models. Now I don’t mean changing the colors entirely, but have you seen like persay the black/dark blue striped tiger? How the legs seem to be discolored compared to the body? And on a couple limbs you can actually see the line that seperates the color differintual? that’s what I mean.
Or possibly FIXING MODELS PERIOD- like the white bird of prey eagle/hawk, her/his wings seem to mess up like 50% of the time, and the pet is also affected too.
Would be nice. Maybe with Cata, but I doubt it. I don’t mind a few glitches here and there, but there’s a shit ton of stuff that Blizz needs to update/fix. My biggest gripe is a spirit wolf having a cat manuever. Where’s furiouis howl?
I apologize for all my typos. I failed at spelling all day. Just puttin’ that out there. =X
blah who cares bm was nice but now is the lamest build, i did love it but it goes oom so fast, even with invigoration.
and on my server at least every low level/geared hunter have skoll or gondria, loque now is a rare sight but id like them to already make all pets have all three talent trees and give more pets with same spells liek for example furious roar for cats
Might want to watch yourself, Leozero. BM may be the lowest in damage, but that doesn’t make it lame. Unless damage is everything to you?
Bring on the Spirit Beast Silithids!!!
Now theres a pet that makes no sense whatsoever. But who cares it would look freaking awesome
Yes you really want to watch your tongue there Leozero- while I detest SV or MM it’s not because of the dps or lack of dps it’s because it’s a playsty;e I don’t really like. For my BM played hunters thru and thru. I have no problem with people who want to be min/maxers, I have no problem if they just go with the tide for best speccs, I mean my paladin has switched from prot-ret-prot-ret-ret-prot-ret.
And what are you trying to get at with making a comment of all BM hunters w/ Skoll/STD cat are poorly geared hunters? What kind of an elitist/jerkwad comment is that? Do you want to know something mister? My main hunter, specc be damned, was in LEVEL 70 PVP GEAR AND QUEST DROPS. Why? Because at first I was TERRIFIED to go into dungeons; but I finally did step into the waters, and slowly did start to gear up. But it took a long, long time.
I mean hell a few days ago I was in an AN run and we had a warrior who was 80 and guess what, did 600/700 dps. BUT HE WAS GEARING UP. No one insulted him tho we did D: a few times, but it’s AN, and even hc AN isn’t that hard to do and I knew we’d most likely pick up the slack for him, and all that matters is we downed every boss, we didn’t wipe, and the guy did get an upgrade or two.
So yes Leozero as you can see not alot of us take kindly to being bashed for gear, or dps or stuff like that, nor do we enjoy bashing upon others. Petopia/Mania’s Arcania is not a place for views like that.
We’re all one big happy family.
That squabbles from time to time.
@ Leozero–
“but it goes oom so fast, even with invigoration.”
What the hell is THAT?!…Do you mean “repleneshment”?
I call shenanigans! Damn rogues sneaking in our posts…/shakes fist
~.o
Kitairra
I would totally switch to BM and get the bear and forsake survival. That is one AWESOME bear, and I prefer him over my plain white Aayren. For the whole druid families….
The crow forms I don’t mind; they have no marking, no little accesories, it’s all good. I think being allowed to tame pets with the same skin becomes awkward. I know, at least, I am proud of my druid’s skins. I love the uniqueness of them. If a hunter could suddenly start taming copies, I know a lot of hunters would.
And us druids suddenly aren’t THAT unique anymore. You won’t be able to distuinguish druid from hunter pet!
So, yeah, my take in short: Let there be no druid skins pets. EVER.
Sorry,double post…
I don’t care where it is,as long as it’s a spirit beast,I want it! What with Skoll not liking to show up when I’m on,I’d like to get ONE spirit beast before the servers shut down for good. /LeSigh
er technically the place holder cheetah for droods is the same as the tameable yellow cheetahs so ..
And anyways I didn’t mean ‘tame a druid skinned cat’ I meant tame a cat that looks like a tauren druid. We already can with nelf cats and the ravens for both BoP and Carrion Birds, so why not tauren cat? Mean ofc without the trinkets and nose ring and horns, but the base model is nice now that they finally fixed it.
Leozero,
Well,I am a BM hunter and I do very good dps, and I can manage my mana very well. Even longer Boss fights like the Vault fights, I can do over 5000 dps and not run out of mana. Even if i do mismanage my mana, I can get it back quick enough so that it doesn’t hinder my dps. As far as the “gear” goes, for BM, the higher level hunter gear ins;t that great for BM. I have found that gear that is supposed to “upgrade” me really hinders me. The problem with BM right now, that i can find, is: Bm is too gear dependant, and there’s not much in the way of higher level gear that really helps BM hunters. We hit a ceiling pretty quick. Truthfully, Blizz is putting way too much haste on higher level gear, and I personally cannot use haste. Where is this going? well, did you ever think that sometiems, better gear really isn’t better?
Sounds to me that you are the kind of hunter that goes online and googles “best hunter dps spec” and goes with what the min/maxers of the world goes with, rather than playing with a spec and style that is fun and works for you. Well,you go ahead and use your min/max spec and I will still out-dps you in my lame BM spec.
Yeah… BM isn’t lame… I love it, now granted i raid in MM, but if i did not like the playstyle of MM, i KNOW i would not do nearly as much dps as me in BM spec… so sure do the ‘cookie’ cutter specs work? hell yeah, but will they work if you don’t like it? thats a promised no
This looks eerily like the ghost wolf, with those blues. I wouldn’t be shocked if this became a shaman ability.
and wow, this was mentioned by someone farther up in posts, but i can’t even imagine a rare Spirit Beast in Wintergrasp. That’d be awful!
I’m now 99% sure that this spirit bear spawns near the Altar of Rhunok and surrounding areas (in Zul’Drak). Probably shares spawn timer with Gondria, too, so that there aren’t too much rare mobs at the same time.
You know what I think Bliz should do. Instead of giving us more stable slots they should set up a pet retirement home of sorts. A place where you could send the pets you REALY dont want to get rid of but just dont use any more, aplace where you can see them any time you want. I have my warp stalker Lizzy that every time I get her out to get rid of her for a Better pet she does that thing where she turns her head and looks at me and and its allmost like she smiles at me and I cant do it I just cant do it I tell ya. sigh
@Nobbie
Even though I think I see where you’re coming from, would you mind explaining a bit? Having two Spirit Beasts in one zone feels off to me, but then again this one and Gondria have some things in common… I would like to know what makes you so sure of the matter. :)
I’s just a guess. We have three spirit beasts so far: Loque, Skoll, and Gondria. Loque and Skoll don’t have a transparent or semi-transparent body. They are unique in the way they look – Loque completely unique (together with Har’koa – same model), and Skoll with the blue fur an lightning effects. I consider these two “A class” models. Gondria is a “B class” model, as is the spirit bear. This doesn’t mean they look cheap, just not as good/unique as Loque and Skoll. Loque is unique to the Sholazar Basin, and Skoll to the Storm Peaks. Skoll is actually the 3rd rare mob there, as the TLPD is ultra-rare and therefore does not count (it shares the spawn timer with Vyragosa btw).
Gondria – a spirit cat – can be found near Har’koa (a cat god), and so the bear should be found near the bear god. To avoid more than 3 rare mobs in the zone, the bear probably shares the spawn timer with Gondria. As I said above, this is just speculation on my part, but I just can’t imagine (from an artistical standpoint) that Blizzard would place a “spiritual” creature like that bear in another place than Zul’Drak. ^^
Hmm, that sounds like a really good theory to me. I was thinking the same way about Gondria and this one: both are transparent and similar to a god in Zul’Drak. However, Grizzly Hills feels just as right to me as Zul’Drak right now, so I’ll be keeping an eye on both zones.
By the way… Is anyone else on the PTR server Remulos EU?
I’m on EU-Fording, but checking the Grizzly Hills/Zul’Drak border, too. ;)
PS: Btw – if we’re lucky, we might get a transparent wind serpent and rhino spirit beast in future patches, too (in Zul’Drak – all on the same timer). ^^
I hope not… Imagine the trouble if you wanted just one of them. 1/4 chance for the right one to spawn. >.< Just finding any of the current ones is a pain, even though they don't share any timers with other rares (as far as I know).
Hmm, I just found Gondria for the second time today. If she and the bear share a timer, the bear is pretty unlucky. XD
Ooooh! A transparent Wind Serpent and rhino! I’m not a fan of Rhinos tho…they’re just…too big for me! xD But I’d like a transparent Devilsaur…wouldn’t it look awesome? :D
@nobbie
I’d like to think the bear has some neat body effect, like maybe shimmering ice crystals or something. Maybe hint that the spirit animals are supposed to be sort of elemental gods or something.
Still, it would be the best to get these beasties fixed so that you know, the spirit WOLF has HOWL.
Except having a spirit beast with both Spirit Strike and Howl would be extremely op… very cool, but op I am affraid.:/
Idk bout you guys, but i would LOVE to be able to tame a ‘Hakkar-skinned’ Windserpent, i love the skin
What to do, what to do??? I want!!! I need more pet slots!!! Grrr.. 2 spirits of and 2 spirit beasts; doesn’t leave much room to play around here
Er how would Howl make an SB op…? I mean Devilsaurs get a talent that stacks, increasing their attack power by by xx/xx/xx% It’s really no different from Raptor’s Rend, doing the increase of attack power.
That and it wouldn’t increase SS all that much, the ap boost would only boost it’s claw/bite skill, while the boosted hunters rap would only boost the SS by a small ammount, so again I don’t see how it’s op.
And it’d be a lot better than prowl imo, as it’s why I had to ditch charge for running dungeons with an SB, sometimes Jupiter will still lurch forward and stop almost imediately, as if unsure of wether to use charge or SS, or use charge- then SS or use SS- then charge or do more lurching.
Mean it’s no different from bears/crocolisks having 2 different AoE’s available to them :/
But granted I only expect to see Howl on Neptune, I would just like the option of something better than prowl for Loque.
Howl on Skoll*
yes I named mine neptune :v
Other possible spawn locations would be Crystalsong Forest, and all the areas in the Dragonblight where you can find diseased bears. The latter would be more likely in order to make spirit beasts earlier available to younger hunters who have just entered Northrend (level 71 – 74).
if its another spirit beast I do wish they would redesign its family talents to exclude prowl.
I think the only reason prowl was added to the family was the biase of cats as the first forms of spirit beasts.
to me its a wasted talent on the pet bar and for fear of its autocast I have to keep it on the pet bar- instead of better options.
Anyone else here think that Blizzard should take a poll for the next spirit beast, so we hunters can pick what type of animal/”effect” it has? Of course,you’d have rogues voting “helpless duckling with one leg”.
Well I think it will be in Grizzly right next to Zuldrak by the bear god site. If you go west from Ursa shrine at 16.25,78.83, there is a hilltop full of ruins in snow with nothing close by, a perfect place for spirit bear to roam.
Plus close by the two children are nice spots to have him roam as well.
@Locutus
Funny, I’ve been drawn to those places for a couple of days now. Right now the route I like to take starts from behind Altar of Rhunok, from there I look the Gondria spawn points through (the snowy area between Altar of Har’koa and Quetz’lun feels a good place for a bear too). Then I visit Ursoc’s Den and last I head south to the Forgotten Overlook (sounds like a perfect place for a spirit, eh?) and follow the mountainside west until I reach Howling Fjord. I also have another toon parked in Dragonblight at the lake with all the ghosts near Stars’ Rest.
So I was looking around Grizzly Hills for the spirit bear, and I came upon something crazy! the Grizzly Bears now seem to be SWARMING in packs around the rivers, following behind what seems to be the “alpha” bear! O_o
Screenie: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6125/wowscrnshot102609173124.jpg
~Jez
Are …. are you sure it’s not a glitch?
o-o
Ok, there’s something I gotta get out there before I comment on the bear and my ideas. To the people that complain about the wolf, Skoll, having Prowl and Claw like a cat, I have this to say. Skoll is a wolf, yes, but he has large claws. Second, these are SPIRIT beasts. Maybe to them, it’s not really prowling, just shifting their plane of existence slightly to cloak themselves. Now, onto the bear and some of my thoughts.
Like many others, I would think that this would be in Grizzly Hills, Icecrown, maybe even the Fjord. And if they are adding a spirit beast to each zone, ones that kinda tie in with the creatures of Northrend, it made me think of a few possible new spirit beasts (P.S., these may have already been posted above, but after reading around 25 comments, I decided to already make a post). I wouldn’t be surprised by a spirit rhino, or eagle, maybe even bats or a wind serpent or jormungar. They might even add an untameable few just for background element, like a giant ghostly mammoth in Dragonblight. I saw a post about dwarf shamanism, and this being their summoned ‘wolves/travel form’, and some disagreements about it, but I thought about something. These are drunken dwarves. They may have a different form of shamanism than usual shamans. Troll druids, are an example that come to mind. They might act like some bosses in Zul’Gurub or Zul’Aman, and take on avatar forms of certain animal gods instead of usual druid practices. Or the tauren paladins (holy cows :D). Maybe they aren’t the holy paladins like Uther or the Argent Crusade. They worship the Light. Night elf priests are holy, but worship Elune as their ‘Light’. Maybe the tauren paladins are sort of like paladins and priests of the Earth Mother?
All the wolf models in WoW have large claws… it’s not really about the claws, it’s about how an animal is -built- to use them. In animals, like wolves, they never use their claws. Or I’ll give an example. Skoll, and all northrend wolf models basically are very, very extremes of -sight hounds-, now granted even tho I have owned a sight hound, a Wolfhound, and played with him [he has already passed his time], he would chase me, and admitedly in our rough housing he would sweep out his front feet at me, but it was never to claw or tear, but to trip me.
Which he loved to do.
Now Hiedi, a mut we rescued, does have claws that are like claws due to her misstreatment from former owners; and she can wield them without meaning to be and they are a bit dangerous, but the only time Heidi can do this is when she’s sitting, or laying down, as her body isn’t built to lift up a leg like that and swipe it, like a cat.
Now while you make a good point for a cheap and buggy Prowl [come on it didn't even boost SS for a -long time-], for claw it makes little sense. But it’s not that we don’t want claw on Skoll, we would rather have Howl as I imo, Prowl/Charge are a bit useless on a spirit beast.
And Tree Troll shoots out the idea of an ‘avatar’ form for Trolls, sorry. And while bears are fast, they aren’t creatures that do long, sustained hauls. Wolves do that, they can travel 30 miles or more a day. So that’s why, along with the standard lore for shaman, that I fail to see a bear travel form for Dwarfs or a bear spirit summon, because then the ally and horde shammy glyph would have to be changed and reworded, and then everyone would complain that ‘only Dwarf get different’ and Blizzard is already reciving backlash from even suggesting the posibility Tauren Paladins are basically going to NOT get a horse but YET ANOTHER KODO. That and they’d probably get the same from avatar forms for Trolls.
And lastly yes that is kinda how the Tauren-din and priest classes were being hinted at; it’s held up by the fact my friend said she saw tauren priest art. By the facts that Palla pointed out as to how a forsaken could still be a priest [ie the class trees and how there's holy/disc/shadow].
Tho tbh I find it how funny people are reacting and it’s like really, really? I’ve been in Alterac Vally on holidays. Do you know how many paladins I see on ally side? Usually average 15.
How many I see horde? OH IT TOPS 8 AT TIMES. Most of the time 4. Most of the time 0.
So no I’m not complaining about Blizzard doing something to finally increase paladins horde side for pvp.
admitedly they’re -everywhere- for pve activities tho.
long post is long.
Hmm. As a spirit beast this doesn’t do much for me – at this point about the only reason I still collect them is because I don’t want to pass one up and then stumble across it later on my warrior, or with a hunter whose pets I really don’t want to dismiss, or etc. So unfortunately for myself it has indeed become a bit of a Pokemon fixation.
But getting back on topic, I think this one could be very cool as a regular bear with rare skin – now you have something cool looking that any hunter can tame (if they’re willing to camp long enough), and which is good for solo’ing as opposed to the garden variety spirit beast we’ve come to expect.
Still no signs of the bear? :o I’m starting to fear that it might not be a Spirit Beast. :/
Safrienaer-
i think id enjoy it most of this was a reg rare bear :)
Akyo, yea me too. Having a ferocity bear sounds pretty odd, but to be honest, a bear that looks like that can’t be a normal bear. XD
Don’t forget to take into consideration that this may not be a spirit beast or a beast at all, but a boss fight mechanic that we haven’t seen yet. I’m not saying that it is or isn’t, just that we haven’t found a spawn location for it yet. So we’ll just have to wait and see what crops up!
@Cheesedoodle
The reason for all the complaining about the skills that Skoll has is that the skill Claw is only used for the normal cat family. It would be like Gondria having Furious Howl. Cats can sort of yodel, and I guess that could be called a howl, but it would be silly to say that cats howl. Wolves do have claws, yes, but they don’t ever use them to claw like a cat. Mostly, they’re used for traction when the canid runs. Skoll must have some serious maneuvering ability.
Also, hunters have been taught that certain body types have certain abilities, and we would like that to hold true for the spirit beasts body types. =)
Safrienaer. why not? we have a ghost kitty that act like a normal cat. A parrot taht acts like a bird of prey and a owl that acts like a carrion bird. There is Oddities here and there so to find a simple ghost bear wouldnt be impossible.
Palla- yeah you are right we dont know anything about this creature atm, it might be a mob in a new instance or quest spawn for what we know. but we are hunters..we hope anything that looks like the oddball out of the batch to be tameable.
Jangalian- no, not quite. we arent saying all SB should have howl. we are saying that the SB should get a fam skill of that family it represent(word)
In the begining we suspected that Loque got claw AND prowl because he was close to beeing a cat. same with Gondria, but when Skoll came we hoped he would gain the wolf familiy skill Howl and lose prowl, maybe get bite instead of claw. But we all know he dident and he got stuck with a cats abilitys. wich you have to admidt is odd on a wolf.
But then again..they arent cats, nor wolves. they are a family of their own. even though they look like cats and wolves..
*Chuckles* Wolves claws are used mainly for digging out dens in dirt or to find remains in snow or what have you. Traction, like was mentioned, is another one. They are heavy, but on the overall very blunt. A wolf will generally use it’s paws to hold down it’s prey. That being said, after a little research I discovered that wolves will also use their claws to rake their target, so…..yea, claw fits Skoll. That’s really neither here nor there, though. I don’t have a problem with Skoll knowing claw, I just think it’d be a better idea to make spirit beasts more unique then normal pet families. Yes prowl is situationally nice, and adds a nice little opening shot off of spirit strike, but it just doesn’t scream spirit beast to me. It doesn’t for the cats either, really. Loque’s eyes and mouth glow unearthly hues, and ALL of Gondria is covered in a pale aura. Skoll emits lighting. Not very stealthy. *laughs*
Did some online digging about a possible spirit bear. It would be interesting if the npc was called Kermode, if this the next spirit beast.
Kermode bear
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Kermode Bear (Ursus americanus kermodei), also known as the “spirit bear”, is a subspecies of the American Black Bear living in the central coast of British Columbia, and noted for about 1/10 of their population having white or cream-colored coats. This color variant is due to a unique recessive trait in their gene pool—they are neither albino nor related to polar bears, nor the “blond” brown bears of Alaska’s “ABC Islands”.
Because of their ghost-like appearance, “spirit bears” hold a prominent place in the Canadian First Nations/ American Indian mythology of the area.[1]
The kermodei subspecies ranges from Princess Royal Island to Prince Rupert, British Columbia on the coast, and inland toward Hazelton, British Columbia. It is known to the indigenous population as Moksgm’ol. In the February 2006 Speech from the Throne by the Government of British Columbia, the premier announced his government’s intention to designate the Kermode or spirit bear as British Columbia’s official animal.
The Kermode bear was named after Francis Kermode, a Canadian who researched the species and a colleague of William Hornaday, the zoologist who described it.[2]
spirit bears är stora och har stort rumpahål !
Just throwing my thought out here, since I didn’t see anyone mention it yet:
Is it possible that this skin is for a new (TCG) mount? Like the spectral tiger mount?
Spectral Tiger has armor/saddle. Even the -kitten- has armor and a saddle, or armor atleast. The model is a bit choppy when compared to the tiger, and it is not as pretty tbh, and it lacks a saddle and armor.
So no I don’t think it is a loot mount.
there is no biological logic in WOW.
just like there is no real physics
and no real injuries.
we should stop trying to find these things. they aren’t there. on purpose.
@Palladiamors
“neither here nor there”
I hate that phrase above all others. I couldn’t even finish reading because I had to walk away.
But what I meant was that they aren’t used as a primary attack weapon for canids. Sorry if my reply was a bit rushed, I could have expounded but I was at work and trying to get my thoughts across in a hurry. I will now walk away again to prevent myself from indulging in childish internet behavior.
OH_MY_GOD! I found him!
His name is Arcturis and he’s a Spirit Beast with exactly the same skills as all the previous SBs. I’ll put some screencaps onto the forums as soon as I get past the shock. XD
Yay! where did you find him?
http://www.maniasarcania.com/forums/topic/arcturis-the-spirit-bear?replies=1#post-9184
I tried to include all the interesting info on that post.
@Safrienaer
OMFG FREAKIN’ GRATS on first tame. =D So seriously happy for you! I hope you’re this lucky on the live realms. I know I’ll be releasing Loque for this gorgeous bear.
@Jangalian
Thank you! I’m not probably going to try for him on live though, as I already have three ferocity pets (two of them Spirit Beasts). If he were tenacity, I would trade my current polar bear for him in a heartbeat.
Side note – thought his name looked hella familiar, so I put it into Wiki. Here’s the first answer it gave me…
Arcturus (α Boo / α Boötis / Alpha Boötis) is the brightest star in the constellation Boötes. With a visual magnitude of −0.05, it is also the third brightest star in the night sky, after Sirius and Canopus. It is, however, fainter than the combined light of the two main components of Alpha Centauri, which are too close together for the eye to resolve as separate sources of light, making Arcturus appear to be the fourth brightest. It is the second brightest star visible from northern latitudes and the brightest star in the northern celestial hemisphere. The star is in the Local Interstellar Cloud.
An easy way to find Arcturus is to follow the arc of the handle of the Plough. By continuing in this path, one can find Spica (α Virginis) as well—hence the maxim, “Arc to Arcturus, then speed on to Spica.”
Other uses include the following –
* Arcturus, a star known for its brightness.
o Arcturus in works of fiction, for fictional references to the star
* Arcturus (planet)
* Arcturus (band), an avant-garde Norwegian metal band.
* Arcturus (steamship), a passenger ship of the Finland Steamship Company.
* Arcturus, Zimbabwe, a village in the province of Mashonaland East, Zimbabwe.
* Arcturus Mengsk, the leader of the Sons of Korhal and later Emperor of the Terran Dominion in the StarCraft computer game series.
* Project Arcturus, a failed Ancient power-source project in the Stargate Atlantis television series.
* Arcturus Group, a consultancy based in Brussels
=) Just FYI. And yeah, I know wiki changed the name, but there were no results for the original spelling. That’s the closest I could get.
I’m so excited about this. I just can’t keep my eyes off of him, lol. =D~~~*
Gratz on the capture =)
WTB Hydra SB! I missed the ghost hydra, too. All I’ve ever wanted was a pet hydra… ><
Aaah. Stargate. How awesome was thee. *coughs*
I mean, awesome on the first tame! I THINK I may switch to BM for this lovely bear….
Mania’s Arcania » PTR 3.3: Arcturis the new Spirit Beast - October 28th, 2009 @ 4:54 pm UTC
[...] to safrienaer, we now have a lot more information on the ‘spectral bear‘ — the potential new Spirit Beast that showed up in the Patch 3.3 data files a few [...]
I made a new post on this so no-one would miss safrienaer’s excellent news. :> Thanks, safrienaer!
aaah is there any chanse to give us more extra stable slots ! :(
if blizz is gonna add new beasts … specialy spirit beasts so whats the point of keeping stable slots in 5* ?
i got 3 rare & 1 retired pet & a cat for last spot that i cant let him go :D so i cant have a wolf for raids or spider for pvp or … TAME new SP :(
*5 is LOW for hunters stable :D*
Got Arcturis today (Dec23) after 15-20 half-hearted passes by Amberpine Lodge. I’d set my hearth there (since I have the Kirin Tor ring I can still go to Dalaran) and whenever I log on I would hearth to Amberpine, fly down the hillside and not finding Arcturis (but finding anothr 1-5 hunters camping) I’d go on my way to do whatever I was going to do.
Today, I log in, fly down and there he is, with nary a hunter in sight. I couldn’t dismount and abandon my wolf fast enough.
So here I sit with all 4 spirit beasts and a the crock-o-slime in my Pokeball (i.e. stable); none are great raiding pets, but I don’t care. Here’s wishing Blizz would allow hunters to purchase additional stable slots (like personal bank slots). Heck, make each one significantly more – if someone wants to pay 10K gold for a 10th stable slot, why not?
The poser is, do I abandon a spirit beast or the no longer tamable crock-o-slime?
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