Comments on: Ghostcrawler on Pet Avoidance

By: Daginni

Daginni — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:25:37 +0000

Its nice that it will be built in. PvE Players rejoice. It sucks that Rogues can Spam-o-Knives pets down unless they put points into Cower, not required, but you want a speedy pet.

So in reality, its a PvE Buff, and a PvP Nurf.

By: Snowtiger

Snowtiger — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:53:16 +0000

thats killing everything in sight sorry!!

By: Snowtiger

Snowtiger — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:52:22 +0000

Being that my main is a gather skin/herb the pet being 5 levels below dont bother me at times except in certain area’s and zones.. Since I’m running around killing in sight and skinning all i can and gathering herbs my pets level pretty well but if your in some where you have a level 80 mob with a level 75 pet then its chaos at times..

By: Rowdypotter

Rowdypotter — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:28:43 +0000

as a side-note: Paladins also have another bubble ability that more than halves the damage received by a wide margin and lets you attack with a major decrease in speed or something… why not give something like that for hunters as actual “Deterrence” instead rather than that load of c**p that we’re stuck with.

By: Rowdypotter

Rowdypotter — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:20:13 +0000

You know…. I never used deterrence… I know, stupid of me for not even trying…. but I got so used to not using it because it wasn’t a mainline spell before — I remember that “Deterrence” was a talented ability long ago so I’m used to not using it. I’m one of those that just keeps on unloading shot after shot in between running like a chicken on a boss we were burning down to use it. After I saw Palla’s post above, I did try it a few times during a run and noticed I was better off without it — I usually die anyways and clicking on it was a bit of a waste even when I time it right during some fights… as corny as it is, if I go down, might as well keep shooting than try for the “oh shat” button that barely works. Now, I don’t pvp anymore, so I’ll take Ryai’s word for it not working as advertised…. but I know first-hand that it rarely works right also in PVE. It looks sort of cool… but it’s just eye-candy (if you can call it that) and not much else. Might as well wear a sign that says “I’m wide open, gank me for free.”.

By: Palladiamors

Palladiamors — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:41:06 +0000

I don’t even know…..what deterrence is, Ryai. I guess you could call it limited immunity but….it seriously sucks. Hardcore. It BARELY works as the stall it’s supposed to be, and sometimes it doesn’t even achieve that.

By: Ryai

Ryai — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:39:56 +0000

Well Palla remember, this is people who give paladins a bubble that last for 10 seconds, but hunters barely lasts for 5 seconds, and, I had a rogue get me while it was up, in front and behind.

So guess Deterrence is our new dead zone.

By: Palladiamors

Palladiamors — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:30:55 +0000

I kind of have to disagree, Nim. Not fully. I don’t think it is a matter of “We hate the hunter class.” But I do think it might be a case of extreme laziness. After all, how long did it take them to fix the dead zone bug, which was potentiality crippling to hunters?

By: Nimizar

Nimizar — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:42:35 +0000

Oops, yeah… s/Ryai/Rikaku/ in my last post :)

As a software developer, though, I’m pretty confident that the Blizzard devs *do* care. It’s just that given a finite amount of time, you can’t fix everything and intermittent/selective bugs like the current state of the cower bug are one of the worst kinds of problems to try to track down (and often turn out to be due to misbehaviour in sections of code that are known to be fragile, so fixing them often isn’t easy even when do you manage to figure out what is going wrong).

It’s also a philosophical thing for me – I subscribe to the notions that you shouldn’t ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence, and you shouldn’t ascribe to incompetence that which can be adequately explained by inherent difficulty. So transitively, don’t ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by inherent difficulty :)

By: Ryai

Ryai — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:03:26 +0000

Er Nim I think you missread a few posts, as when there gets to be alot I understand confusing one post for another, but I never mentioned anything about addons. And to be honest I don’t use any addons, for anything anymore, mostly as when I did use them the addons REALLY messed with my pets. The infamous pets never re-appearing when dismounting or pet would suddenly random be on passive or something and just well, I never used any addon again really, because of how negatively they affected all my hunters.

And to be honest, I don’t really care about if they care, or not, imo they don’t care. They know there’s a problem with cower and etc, and in one patch I remember them proclaiming cower was fixed! And it wasn’t; when they fixed cower it was like everything broke, cause I remember in the beginning it was just cower flipping itself on.

Then it became -everything- flipping on and off. And Blizzard has ignored it, and no I don’t mean in the we can’t fix it way, yet, I mean in the we’re turning a blind eye to you and your troubles. And our fix to it? We nerfed non player taunts on dungeon bosses!

Granted this was probably also from a VW supposedly tanking what was it Sarth? I forget, but this does seem like a damn good excuse to once again be lazy about fixing something they’ve said NOTHING about for a long time :/