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	<title>Comments on: PTR 3.2 &#8211; Changes in Build 10072</title>
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		<title>By: PvP hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/07/08/ptr-32-changes-in-build-10072/comment-page-2/#comment-43859</link>
		<dc:creator>PvP hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryai

&quot;I never used it, I never saw the need for it, tbh it forced me to waste 2 points for what? Nothing- it’s the same as master’s call or whatever; removes stuns from the target and the pet’s target? Lol? I don’t want a rogue who’ve I’ve cobncussived as my pet got sapped, to have his snare removed :/&quot;

IT doesnt remove your enemy&#039;s snare, it removes YOURS, if you have auto self-cast on, you can use it while your targeting an enemy player, i find it as one of the most USEFUL PvP moves as a marks hunter (aside from disengage and frost trap) but you wouldnt really find yourself using it in PvE though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryai</p>
<p>&#8220;I never used it, I never saw the need for it, tbh it forced me to waste 2 points for what? Nothing- it’s the same as master’s call or whatever; removes stuns from the target and the pet’s target? Lol? I don’t want a rogue who’ve I’ve cobncussived as my pet got sapped, to have his snare removed :/&#8221;</p>
<p>IT doesnt remove your enemy&#8217;s snare, it removes YOURS, if you have auto self-cast on, you can use it while your targeting an enemy player, i find it as one of the most USEFUL PvP moves as a marks hunter (aside from disengage and frost trap) but you wouldnt really find yourself using it in PvE though.</p>
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		<title>By: thebitterfig</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/07/08/ptr-32-changes-in-build-10072/comment-page-2/#comment-43547</link>
		<dc:creator>thebitterfig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to anyone who said expertise was useless for pets before: when soloing, it lowers their enemy&#039;s chance of dodging or parrying each by 2.5%, since when soloing you pet will almost always be facing the mob.  that&#039;s huge.  out of 100 attacks, that is 5 fewer that get avoided.  they&#039;ll still be dodged and parried from time to time, but that is a big improvement.  in raids, it takes 2.5% of dodges off the table, which, while not perfect, reduces a raiding pet&#039;s chance to miss their target from 6.5% to 4%.  that is a big improvement.

now that pets get expertise from hunter hit, the expertise need disappeared, and we&#039;ll see our pets holding aggro that much better when we solo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to anyone who said expertise was useless for pets before: when soloing, it lowers their enemy&#8217;s chance of dodging or parrying each by 2.5%, since when soloing you pet will almost always be facing the mob.  that&#8217;s huge.  out of 100 attacks, that is 5 fewer that get avoided.  they&#8217;ll still be dodged and parried from time to time, but that is a big improvement.  in raids, it takes 2.5% of dodges off the table, which, while not perfect, reduces a raiding pet&#8217;s chance to miss their target from 6.5% to 4%.  that is a big improvement.</p>
<p>now that pets get expertise from hunter hit, the expertise need disappeared, and we&#8217;ll see our pets holding aggro that much better when we solo.</p>
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		<title>By: Keydis</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/07/08/ptr-32-changes-in-build-10072/comment-page-2/#comment-43533</link>
		<dc:creator>Keydis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know what i don&#039;t see? why blizzard doesnt make hydras tamable...i mean sure the head all have a will of their own...but then dont heads of the core hounds, the outland birds of prey, and the chimaera have wills of their own? i mean the hydra could have a attack that is like the crocolisk&#039;s except it attacks back 3 times...i mean...come on blizzard. throw the hydra a bone...or 3 for that case...make these suckers tamable...because if the old gods could....so can we!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what i don&#8217;t see? why blizzard doesnt make hydras tamable&#8230;i mean sure the head all have a will of their own&#8230;but then dont heads of the core hounds, the outland birds of prey, and the chimaera have wills of their own? i mean the hydra could have a attack that is like the crocolisk&#8217;s except it attacks back 3 times&#8230;i mean&#8230;come on blizzard. throw the hydra a bone&#8230;or 3 for that case&#8230;make these suckers tamable&#8230;because if the old gods could&#8230;.so can we!</p>
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		<title>By: Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because they nerfed Rake to make cats suck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they nerfed Rake to make cats suck?</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/07/08/ptr-32-changes-in-build-10072/comment-page-2/#comment-43348</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leozero:
Yeah, Heigan can still give me problems now and then personally XD It depends on how tired I am honestly. Generally my healers care for my pet, but sometimes in a pug, I&#039;m not that lucky. Sarth tho, Sarth is a fun fight once you got pet management down &gt;=D

joecool7:
Love that macro by the way. Was trying it out in PvP last night, I actually use it now haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leozero:<br />
Yeah, Heigan can still give me problems now and then personally XD It depends on how tired I am honestly. Generally my healers care for my pet, but sometimes in a pug, I&#8217;m not that lucky. Sarth tho, Sarth is a fun fight once you got pet management down &gt;=D</p>
<p>joecool7:<br />
Love that macro by the way. Was trying it out in PvP last night, I actually use it now haha</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Satyr:
I went back and realized why I wrote that, because you wrote &quot;For whatever reason, I do about the same dps on SV as I do on BM…but I attribute that to the familiarity of the shot rotation.&quot;
I thought I was just making a statement in a general sense to answer/reply to your comment. But again, my wording may have just been slightly askew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Satyr:<br />
I went back and realized why I wrote that, because you wrote &#8220;For whatever reason, I do about the same dps on SV as I do on BM…but I attribute that to the familiarity of the shot rotation.&#8221;<br />
I thought I was just making a statement in a general sense to answer/reply to your comment. But again, my wording may have just been slightly askew.</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(to add to above) bad wording on my part* Just wanted to be clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(to add to above) bad wording on my part* Just wanted to be clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satyr:
I wasn&#039;t really stating it in the sense that you didn&#039;t know. I was just stating it for the fact itself. I don&#039;t assume anything about a person when they comment something, so I&#039;m not going to assume you don&#039;t know gemming/enchanting for one spec or another. I generally state only in a universal/general sense for maybe someone who&#039;s just reading comments and didn&#039;t know or something along those lines, thus I don&#039;t put &quot;in case you didn&#039;t know&quot; because to me, that sounds more condescending. So if it offended you in some way, my apologies, but it was just bad-wording, nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satyr:<br />
I wasn&#8217;t really stating it in the sense that you didn&#8217;t know. I was just stating it for the fact itself. I don&#8217;t assume anything about a person when they comment something, so I&#8217;m not going to assume you don&#8217;t know gemming/enchanting for one spec or another. I generally state only in a universal/general sense for maybe someone who&#8217;s just reading comments and didn&#8217;t know or something along those lines, thus I don&#8217;t put &#8220;in case you didn&#8217;t know&#8221; because to me, that sounds more condescending. So if it offended you in some way, my apologies, but it was just bad-wording, nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Leozero - Hyjal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leozero - Hyjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah id like to have bm buffed a little, and well ig you have good healers on heigan that care about pets they dont die, else one disease and theyre done. sarth is easy, just gottta call pet when lava start and position yourself.

so yeah i do 5-6k dps as surv on 25 mans and if on bm and pet gets some buff love i do 4.5-5k

it depends on the fight and how familiar are with the spec rotation.

i still think that the pet should get same buffs as hunter instead of beign linked to warriors, wich is stupid if theres none on th raid, and palladins ignore pets or get angry if you ask them to buff pet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah id like to have bm buffed a little, and well ig you have good healers on heigan that care about pets they dont die, else one disease and theyre done. sarth is easy, just gottta call pet when lava start and position yourself.</p>
<p>so yeah i do 5-6k dps as surv on 25 mans and if on bm and pet gets some buff love i do 4.5-5k</p>
<p>it depends on the fight and how familiar are with the spec rotation.</p>
<p>i still think that the pet should get same buffs as hunter instead of beign linked to warriors, wich is stupid if theres none on th raid, and palladins ignore pets or get angry if you ask them to buff pet.</p>
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		<title>By: Satyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rika...

I know the differences on the enchants and gems for requirements for SV.  Should include in your statement, &quot;assuming you don&#039;t know the difference&quot; or &quot;if you didn&#039;t know....&quot;.

I only switch to SV for given runs/bosses and have some duplicate gear for switch out for SV and BM.  For me, it still comes down to comfort level with the rotation.  I don&#039;t look at the CDs for BM since I&#039;m in rhythm with them.  SV --I&#039;m not and come out with about the same dps (always looking at them stink CDs).

But spreadsheets are not always accurate and I seem to dps more than what the spreadsheet states for BM.  Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rika&#8230;</p>
<p>I know the differences on the enchants and gems for requirements for SV.  Should include in your statement, &#8220;assuming you don&#8217;t know the difference&#8221; or &#8220;if you didn&#8217;t know&#8230;.&#8221;.</p>
<p>I only switch to SV for given runs/bosses and have some duplicate gear for switch out for SV and BM.  For me, it still comes down to comfort level with the rotation.  I don&#8217;t look at the CDs for BM since I&#8217;m in rhythm with them.  SV &#8211;I&#8217;m not and come out with about the same dps (always looking at them stink CDs).</p>
<p>But spreadsheets are not always accurate and I seem to dps more than what the spreadsheet states for BM.  Go figure.</p>
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