Blizzard on Worgen Fate
We have an initial response from Blizzard about the fate of the worgen pet. Zarhym posted the following just a bit ago:
It is not intended that Garwal can be tamed while in worgen form and will be addressed via a hotfix in the near future. When we have determined how to handle situations where hunters have already tamed Garwal we will let you know.
There are two things to get from this post:
- Soon we will no longer be able to tame Garwal in such a way that he gets stuck in his worgen form. (Whether this means that they make him untameable or just fix the ‘getting stuck’ part, we don’t yet know.)
- Blizzard has not yet decided what to do about the worgen that have already been tamed. But believe you me, we are keeping a close eye on this question in particular.
Thanks to Rikaku for posting about this, as far as I can tell, mere seconds after it happened.
(Ironically, I’ve been killed twice by Garwal while I typed this up. I suppose I shouldn’t go AFK at his spawn spot, eh?)
[edit] Ancilorn posted essentially the same information on the English EU forums:
As we’re sure you know, taming this NPC is unintended and a hotfix will address this. As for the future of tamed worgen, nothing has yet to be decided. The matter is being discussed and if we have something to share about the future of these pets, we will endeavour to do so.
I’m including this here both for completeness and so I have a handy link to both posts in case I need them later.
[edit #2] The July 7th maintenance on the US realms did not affect the worgen in any way that we can tell. Tamed worgen are still worgen, and Garwal can still be tamed both as a wolf and as a worgen.
We’re getting multiple reports of missing functionality with the worgen, which I can confirm myself. I just logged into Sentinels and found that:
- When I try to feed my worgen, I get the ominous message that “You do not have a pet.”
- With the worgen by my side, I do not have a pet talent tab and therefore cannot set his talents.
- Similarly, with my worgen by my side I do not have a pet spellbook tab. In addition, the only actions on the pet command bar for the worgen are Attack/Follow/Stay and Aggressive/Defensive/Passive — no skills at all.
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Your welcome. I have nothing really better to do than read and browse the forums. Well, I could actually PLAY my Hunter, but that would require my spec not being broken ;)
well i hope that we all can keep our worgen Pet.
Rikaku thanks for updates man.
Well, we can only wait and see what happens. I’m still sad I can’t get one!
/wave Rikaku
Thank you, Rikaku, for braving the WoW General Forums, aka The Barrens General.
/salute
Now let’s just hope that we get to keep him! The fact that they’re discussing, and not just immediately slamming down the delete-hammer, is optimistic!
Still though, I’m not getting my hopes up.
*goes to keep quickly powerlevelling alliance hunter to 71… only 2/3 of a level to go!*
lol mines 80 and if they take it away im gona miss hiding in farms house in ab and haveing him charge out and see horde scatter
Eh, if they get rid of them, it won;t kill me, but I will be upset. If we lose these pets, it’s just a matter of time before the whiners get Ghost wolves, crcoslimes, hydraliscs and Hive queen taken off us. i see this being a snowball-type thing. If we lose one, how much more whining will it take before lose them all? Oh well,if I lose mine, he was fun while he lasted.
awwww, would suck if they took it away completly, Im praying for you guys who have already tamed it, that that wont happen :)
Let us all pray they allow those who have tamed it to fix it. And to those who have not tamed it yet… get a move on
Let us all pray they allow those who have tamed it to keep it. And to those who have not tamed it yet… get a move on
FIXED!!!!
Dweezil:
If they take my worgen, well, I’ll be understanding. Ok, he looks like a humanoid and I’llgive it up. But I will fight tooth and nail for all the ghost hydras, oozes, slimes and ghost wolves. Especially the ghost wolves. I have had that wolf for almost 2 years now, the heck I’d give it up for whiners on Blizz forums.
I’ll personally drive down to Blizz HQ and give them a peice of my mind. And I can do it. I live 55 mins away from them.
Very much expecting to log into icecrown tomorrow to find a white worg at my side =(
So then is it safe to stable him or leave him out with us? because if you stable him how would blizz know you had a worgen if they have the same id and all
I will be majorly pissed off if I can’t keep my Garwal
Is blizzard’s smart, they’ll let the tamed worgen’s stay as they are and just make Garwal untameable like they did w/ the spirit guide and the hydra + ooze. Worgens look more like a beast than a humanoid anyway in my opinion and i see no reason to take them away. Yes we aren’t supposed to tame humanoids, and we didnt: we tamed a normal tameable beast. Its classified as a wolf, just like the ooze is classified as a crocilisk. Does that mean that everyone who has the ooze should have theirs turned back into a croc because we aren’t supposed to be able to tame unclassified creatures? Use some sense here blizz =D
Lol, I’ve been out all day and monitoring news on this in my evening class… it just gets better.
Last night on my server I saw only two other hunters with him in Dalaran, and I checked IF and SW too. One was Horde, who I /congratulated. The other was a fellow Alliance who I whispered “grats and gl”.
I know an ironclad, unassailable, logical reason we might lose Garwal.
Perhaps I’ll let you know what it is after Blizz makes its decision.
Bah, there was supposed to be a “wseg” at the end of that last line, but I forgot using angular brackets makes the text within a tag :(
The first pet I got my hunter was named Wareworg. Been playing WoW for four years now and since the beginning wished I could play as a worgen or have a pet one or even change into one on my druid. For my hunter its the dream pet. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I know if I find mine gone tomorrow my wow account will go with it.
While I am unable to tame him (Damn you loremaster OCD) I really hope for the sake of you who did tame him, that you get to keep him as such. Thank you for the update however :D !
Boriz:
“So then is it safe to stable him or leave him out with us? because if you stable him how would blizz know you had a worgen if they have the same id and all”
No. Stabling your worgen changes nothing. If blizzard decides to revert the worgen to a wolf, they’ll basically change or refresh the coding for all who have the “Garwal” worg-code. So basically everyone would get a white worg, but those who already had one wouldn’t know the difference.
Could it be the rumor that we’ll be seeing a Worgen and a Pandarian race in a future expansion pack… supposedly the one after Cataclysm will feature the two new races.
Just going off of some old Blizzard WoW “plans”…. everything on the list has been going just like they said it would on the plans… we’ll see.
They can’t take our babies away… they just can’t D:
/cry
God I hope I don’t log on tommorrow to find them gone
There’s at least 3 people on my server with a Garwal, myself included (another I had to teach within my guild to perform the same tame that same day). I only really tamed him because I had kept the quest open (I love the wolf costume!) and wanted to try it out. FOR SCIENCE. I still really miss my nether ray. My boyfriend’s hunter alt “adopted” him, though, so it’s OK. :)
So, if the worgen goes, it frees up a slot for Skoll in 3.2. :) Dweezill hits a point about the possible repercussions one straight-out remove causes. Namely the slimes. Hydras are at least beasts! Slimes are not! And Blizzard didn’t touch those. Not to cause grief on you possible slime-owners out there, but if Blizzard were to address this worgen mishap with a reverting hotfix, I’d feel very inclined to pipe up that they do the same thing with this “non-beast” slime as well.
You know. for “balance”. I slightly kid, but given the common manner of forum posts these days… ;)
I’m still waiting for them to fix Gezzarak and Arikara’s summoning animations.
Unrelated: 4/5 of my pets are rare/untameable at his point, which is kind of cool. Gez, Hive Queen, this worgen, Nuramoc… the fifth pet is a run-of-the-mill orange devilsaur, but he’s cute dangit! I got into the legendary pet-taming a bit late, but I’m really enjoying it!
I REALLY hope we get to keep our Worgens. REALLY. He was very hard to get and I would hate to lose him after all that.
Other note…what rumor about Worgen and Pandarians?
Also…what is a Pandarian? Is that a Firbolg?
I was so excited when I found out about this. A badass looking wolf, and on top of that it’s a freaking WORGEN?? Worgen have always been one of my favorite creatures in WoW. :D
But then I read on to discover that I can’t tame it…ugh. As bad as I feel saying it because I know there are so many people who love this pet, I really hope they take the worgen away. I highly doubt Blizzard will allow people to keep a humanoid as a pet anyway. Crocoslimes are one thing, but humanoids are a whole new level of no-no according to Blizzard “rules”. They took away the ability to tame a ghost wolf because it didn’t fit the feel of the class, and there’s certainly no reason in lore why a hunter would or even could have a worgen as a pet.
On another topic, where are all those new pets we were promised? I recall reading a while back that they’d be adding new pets to families and even whole new families, but instead we get one pet very rarely and it’s always a spirit beast. I wants sum new beasties!! :D
Looks like as of 2am ET its already patched. I’ve tamed him while he was in worgen form twice and each time he turned into a wolf unpon the completion of the tame. Another hunter had the same thing happening.
No, the same thing happened to me and i was gonna give up, but it actually is a split second u could tame him in, just keep trying between 56%-65% health and tame between 15seconds left on sting and 10 seconds left on sting. I gave it one last try with 58% health on him and tamed with 11 seconds left on sting :)
that last one worked btw, but im sure he will be gone tomorow :(
“Also…what is a Pandarian? Is that a Firbolg?”
A Panderan is a race of Bipedal humanoid Panda
IMO the incident with the tamable hydra and slime was completely different to the case for the worgen form Garwal. As the hydra and slime were made tamable legibly by a vertain patch but later reverted to untamable, it could be more forgiving on letting ppl keep those already tamed. However, Garwal, in worg form, has always been tamable, but not in worgen form. The taming of the worgen is definitely a ‘clever use’ of game mechanic, or, more suitably, an ‘exploit’, that had the pet stuck in humanoid form rather than the beast form. In this case, it would already be generous not getting a 72hr ban for exploiting, like ..Exodus..cough did. It has never been BZ’s intention to let players keep stuffs obtained through exploiting (Mimiron’s head, Karatechop’s archievements etc). It would be reasonable to revert the tamed ones to the worg form.
A year or two before WoW was released, one of my favorite themes was “Panda Samurai” from ingalills.com. I was pleasantly surprised to find out it was the brainchild of WoW’s art director, Samwise Didier. I’ve wanted to play one since I discovered they’re an Azerothian race, but they’ve been held back. Full details at http://www.wowwiki.com/Pandaren …
Hm, strange that the url made it but not the text …? Got a message saying it would have to be reviewed by a moderator.
Dang… my server just announced it’s going down for maintenance… I’m at 80% thru level 70 on my alliance hunter :( She won’t make it, and I’m 99% sure that they’re fixing it tonight. I was expecting the servers to go down closer to 5am like usual, this seems early. Ah well.
Good luck everyone!
I disagree about it being an exploit.
Its no different than the ghost wolves. You had to jump through hoops to get one, but they left them be. It wasnt MEANT to happen..but it did. I know they are going to stop us from being able to tame them. BUT if you have already done it then they should let us have them. Its simply that we found a way to tame it.
Oh well … if my worgen gets taken away later, I’ll be mad at Blizz, but I can somewhat understand but still.
I’ll go back to having one slot free in my stables for something special again. [which is hard given the fact only a Worgen could replace my Core Hound lolz]
If mine gets taken away, I will be really upset and not so understanding as most people. I guess because I missed out on the gwolf, ooze, and hydra and this is actually the first pet I got that’s a big problem so I’m really excited about it. I’m a MM/SV hunter, so all the cool pets that are going as exoitic I adore but know I can’t get. (Plus all that camping I had done was painful.) Blizz said “oops this wasn’t supposed to happen” with them, but people kept what they have. Why is this any different?
Funny enough, I was tired of the normal worgs I had to get after cats seemed to be nerfed and started leveling one of the different ones from ZD. So when this hype came about I was just beside myself with excitement and will be very upset if it’s taken away. :(
I don’t think Blizzard will revert the Worgen Garwal into Worgs… for those who already have him. Blizzard generally did not touch on bugged pets, as long as they were tamed before the patch. For example, the spirit wolf… was a bug, but Bliizard did not revert these guys into regular skins… or else.
Even in recent patch, the Spirit of Atha, the Hydra in Schollizar Basins, was tamable for a while… under “crocolisk” … and other ones as well.
Clearly, thses guys are unwanted result for Blizzard, since hydra or other guys aren’t really supposed to be hunter pets. Nevertheless, after 3.08 patch,
Blizzard did not do anything about the Hydras that are already tamed.
So my guess, or bet on this? I don’t think Blizzard will revert our lovely cool
Garwal into his Worg form!
[So let's get this guy :) ]
I think they will just convert tamed beasts into wolves. The tamed worgen is a HUMANOID, not a beast. I tamed one myself as I had to, of course… But I perfectly understand if Blizz wont allow us to keep Garwal.
Ghost Wolf, Ooze, Hydra… yes, they were “bugged” too… but they are some sort of “beast”. Not humanoids anyway, they could be considered exotics. If you think about it, taming a humanoid is just wrong for our class.
I would love to see Ghost Wolves come back to the scene. Those are really amazing. I would also LOVE to see northerend wolves fixed (bad animations).
Blizz usually has good grace with these matters as seen through past cases. I know I tamed my worgen with no knowledge of code or game mechanic just if you catch him wwhen he shifts he cant decide to go back to his prefferd form (from a rp point of view).
Genrally most beasts that are parts of quests have bean made untameable but for some reason a few seam to slip through the net.
I am not counting on keeping my worgen but am very worried about the back lash of bitter hunters demanding retro fixes of the other pets. In most cases us hunters are a great lot of cross faction comrades helping each other out and respecting lucky tames. There are a few villans amongst us who would disrupt a tame out of spite or demand retro nerfs but it would be such a shame to see the spirit of the hunter community fall apart over this :(
Lets get one thing straight. Neither the hydra/slime or ghost wolf was ever “bugs”. It was a failure to apply one script to each one, “the unable to be tamed”. Now in the case of Garwal he is a bug and getting him to stay in worgen form is an exploit in the scripted command to make him transform into one. I wouldn’t be surprised if Blizzard went ahead and changed him back to worg form, they are doing the same thing with the sunreaver dragonhawks. There are just some pets that are clearly never meant to be a pet.
All of this ‘humanoid’ stuff is rubbish anyway. We can tame Gorillas and they are truly humanoid whereas worgen are clearly mythical wolf beasties. The classifications are arbitrary and are basic code conventions for the sake of simplicity. The talk of ‘bugs’ and ‘exploits’ is also rubbish. Bugs are code that interfere with programme function and exploits are code that give an unfair advantage. Garwal is an aberration.
Grats to the hunters (unlike myself) who were able to get gwolves (undead?), ozzes (wtf?) and hydras (watery dragon thingos?). You deserve a really different pet as a reward for very clever and dedicated playing. I got my Garwal after 5 years of playing. I cooperated very politely with the many hunters, horde and alliance, who were all queuing and taking care of trash that we would all get a shot. We didn’t do anything different to what the other hunters did who got supercool pets. We deserve to keep Garwal for the same reasons they got to keep their aberrations.
Well, I agree on the fact that Garwal “Worgen” is in fact Humanoid.
But I don’t think that this fact must be decisive reason to revert Garwal Worgen into Worgs…. Personally, I think Ooze isn’t really beast. Gelo-ish creature….
is not really type of beast…
Although Hydra “Spirit of Atha” is considered as “Beast”, but there are shouldn’t
be tamable. As Alystus mentioned, Hydra/Slime/Ghost wolves are due to script error.
But in terms of efforts or method of taming, Worgen Garwal’s case isn’t much different from that of Ghost wolf. “The Timing”.
When we tamed Ghost wolf, we needed Shaman’s blood thirst or Troll’s Speciality
and gems to help this out. In case of Garwal, we still need timing…
Using Wyvern sting… and stuff.
Of course, we can say … “what are beast, and what are not”
In terms of the views of Users, I guess we can say that these error aren’t intended
, but Blizzard hasn’t noticed this until the user report. So I guess it is fair
to let them not touch those that are already tamed. [More like... I hope this case]
But I must say… that if Blizzard changes the script for Garwal’s Transformation,
it is inevitable [probably] to revert the worgens to wolves…
Isn’t it just a skin of a Humanoid and actually a wolf? Kinda Like my Slime is a skin of a slime and is actually a croc. When I scan over my Worgen it’s says Wolf not humanoid so hunters did not tame a humanoid they tamed a wolf with Worgen skin.
Wow, (no pun intended) I can imagine the hate and discontent they would have on theirs hands if they took away the Worgen skin away. That’s why they usually will just let be what has been done and hotfix the tame and move on. So by all rights they should leave the tamed one alone and the Easter Egg we found will be just that.
I guess I don’t see why people are so upset about this. It’s not like our new pet speaks like a human or even has human abilities! It’s just a skin! He doesn’t do anything out of the ordinary; he’s essentially the same as the oozes in the way that they have crockolisk abilities but simply a different skin. Whoops Blizz your bad! Our gain… It’s quirks like this that make this game and playing a hunter so exciting imo.
CobraLily & Aurourex: that is largely what I was trying to say. Thanks :-)
-No problem Angelen
I am literally sitting at work tonight refreshing this thread hoping to see if anyone in a later time zone has any news on their worgen pets fate after this patch today… Not knowing is killing me
As far as GM are concerned they are Customer Service Rep, they are allowed to make certain changes and decisions but when major issues come into play decisions come from upstairs. So you can ask 20 different GMs and get 20 different answers. Letting Hunters keep said tamed pets will not do nothing but create enthusiasm as it did with the other retired pets that were never designed to be tamed. They know if they just hotfix the tame and let Hunters keep their pets and move on it’s End of Story.
If they do not let hunters keep what they tamed in said form they will having to deal with all the discontent for weeks and maybe even at the convention coming up.
So Hotfix the tame, leave tamed pets as is and move on.
I would say that comparing this to the Ghost Wolf, Hydra or Slime for chances of getting to keep it is wrong. The Ghost Wolf was never marked as untamable because they existed for such a short space of time, and enterprising hunters managed to get the tame down to within it. The Slime & Hydra as far as I know were tagged as the wrong type of creature and therefore again able to be tamed. I would say both of these were oversights on Blizzards part. I would call Garwal more of an exploit than the others, as he IS intended to be tamed as a Worg, but by clever use of a glitch in the game mechanics you can force him to stay in Worgen form.
Another difference is in what they would need to do to ‘fix’ him. Ghostwolf would have had to be removed completley, Slime & Hydra would I guess either be removed or reverted to a totally unrelated creature, with Garwal all they have to do is make him revert to his standard form, which he was supposed to do in the first place. I’d say this is much, much less of a change to force on people than the previous two.
Don’t get me wrong, I totally want him to stay, even though I can’t get him, the more people that have him the better chance of seeing him tooling around Dalaran. It’s all specualtion anyway, but I just think we can’t look at what’s happened with the last couple of pets and make a parallel with this one, as it’s a totally different situatiion.
Annoying that i cant take one because ive already completed the quest :( They need to add in more varieties of pets cause every hunter is just using the same ones for PvE.
“Isn’t it just a skin of a Humanoid and actually a wolf? Kinda Like my Slime is a skin of a slime and is actually a croc. When I scan over my Worgen it’s says Wolf not humanoid so hunters did not tame a humanoid they tamed a wolf with Worgen skin.”
Yup.
I’m gonna be surprised if they take the skin away. It’s gonna lead to more than a solid week of Hunter hate, where if they let the few that have managed to get it walk away this will boil off much faster.
AGREED it will be old news like MJ… :0
Myrmidone-> you are finding excuses and rationalisations for Blizz’s previous ‘(mis) handling’ of unanticipated player creativity. By your own arguments, Garwal is exactly the same situation… supercool pet. MINE ALL MINE. MUAHAHAHAH!!!
@ Angelén
I completely disagree on what you say about gorillas. They are not humanoids in the game, at all. They are pure beasts. they live in the forest and just move around. Worgen and many other “humanoids” are organized, usually live in sort of villages or whatever, can use weapons and armors and so on.
You perfectly know Worgen *ARE* humanoids and not beasts. Come on don’t just act as someone who wants his pet at all costs, no matter the evidence ;-)
if worgen were serious humanoids bliz wouldnt let us skin them. not that ive done it since i was in darkshire years ago. personally i feel that people should be allowed to keep them, and make it so they cant be tamed again like all the other rare pets. we only knew about how to tame it for less than a week so there isnt too many around. hunters need some love somtimes u know. ok we aint gonna kick ur ass but at least let us look good
@ Dalaila ShadowsongEU ->
I was talking about ‘real’ terms and was not debating game mechanics but you are absolutely right on that side. If Garwal had started in Human (humanoid) form and then changed into worgen form like some other NPCs (help me out here, guys, I can’t remember the lower level dudes who did this) I might agree with you on the kosherness of taming him. The fact remains, though. that he starts as a wolf and retains wolf (beast) and just becomes a wolf (beast) in worgen form. If walking on 2 legs made a creature humanoid then we shouldn’t be allowed to tame striders, raptors and a whole host of other thingos.
Sad as it is, I have met many dogs with more admirable humanoid qualities than their human masters. We could debate the depth of skin/beauty/humanity for all time but the fact remains that Garwal looking like a worgen is a wolf in worgen’s clothing just as the slime thingos are crocs in ooze skin etc.
If the tame came with ultra special powers like a dragon that has ranged attack from heights and cannot be attacked by melee (DROOOOOOL!!!!!) I would prolly agree with you that it was a bit over the top. But it isn’t. It’s just super cool.
Fact: Worgen are Humanoid. Fact: Garwal is Beast.
Beauty is only skin deep. We just want to keep our beautiful pets.
I just found out bout this beautiful worgen from checking updates with this site lol so i despraitly started lvling my hunter (lvl 62 atm) >.< but this hotfix has me worried. Im hoping that after todays matenince he will still be tameable as a worgen..i can only hope :( i would LOVE to have a werewolf ingame, lol expessuaily a sexy one with armor :o
has anyone else also confirmed if “eyes of the beast” work on him or will he revert back? lol probably a stupid question but one i was thinking bout.
Calling this an “exploit” is a stretch, since the only “advantage” being gained from it is cosmetic, gets you no achievements, exp, money or etc (especially silly trying to compare it to insta-killing instance bosses with a GM item – gimme a break lol), but it is definitely a bug… a bug that for once happened to go in players’ favor, but a bug nonetheless.
And I don’t think we hunters are going to change any hearts or minds with the humanoid/gorilla argument either… although on a more general/non-RP level I think the idea of a (one time, limited edition) humanoid pet isn’t so totally outlandish now that we’ve got both DKs and locks running around with them, but w/e.
I guess I just feel Blizzard has done some rather stupid and annoying things with some pets (removing AOE from dragonhawks, changing wind serpents from having a unique functionality to something bland and mundane, months of leaving gorilladins blatantly OP despite waves and waves of data and complaints, making scorpids boring when they could have solved their DPS problem with something interesting like a stacking debuff, etc etc), and so on a very basic level the worgen tame felt like a kind of compensation – and that’s probably the main reason behind why I would feel annoyed if they took away existing tames.
Of course I’ll get over it if they do – I liked the game before I found out about this pet and once I get this thing out of my system I’ll go back to feeling that way… although it would leave me a bit more open to the idea of switching games should a reasonably comparable MMORPG come along…
@ Dalaila
Just for a note, worgen do not use weapons and most dont live in villages. They’re found mainly in the forest just like any other beast.
On another note, its not like the thing has the skin of like a human or a naga (even though that would be sweet haha) or something. Worgens appear more beast-like than humanoid.
@ Sesshoumaru
I have been Eyes of Beasting my lil’ darling all over Dalaran and sending links to the taming guide to any who ask.
@ Flak
same same :-)
Technically speaking, a werewolf is more beast than humanoid. There were different levels of the affliction. Most people that are infected become a wolf on the full moon. Some could only make a partial transformation, these are the ones you see in movies and the game. In all cases the person completely loses their ability to make choices on their own, although more intelligent and violently cunning than the standard wolf, their minds are that of an animals.
As far as hunters taming them, it’s the beast’s mind that we tame, not it’s body. If that’s the case it makes an easy way to explain how some hunters were able to catch his body in semi-humanoid form while his mind was still that of a beast.
One more little tidbit for all you hunters who think Garwal is a “humanoid”
Why dont you hover your little mouse over him or use beast lore. He’s a wolf. When you can finally understand that he just has a different skin, then maybe someone might listen to your points.
It’s amazing the number of people who say “I missed out on the ghost wolf, the ooze and the hydra, so I deserve this one”. This is what is going to lead to so much ill-feeling if they’re removed… this feeling of entitlement. I’m going to be savagely blunt: You *deserve* nothing! You joined a class knowing what kinds of beasts you are meant to tame. If they all bore you, you simply picked wrong. You weren’t clever or creative in taming the worgen: you followed a series of instructions that someone else worked out. You may still have had to try hard… but you were trying hard for something you *knew* Blizzard didn’t want or intend you to have. You’d have to be extremely arrogant or self-centred if you think that means you deserve something. Don’t get me wrong, in fact it’s fun to tame this guy while he lasts, but please stop with the feelings of entitlement and the definitions of “fairness” (where “fair” means you are willing to let anyone in the future be blocked from getting it as long as you get to keep it). It’s contrived, very self-centred, morality and it’s already leading to a lot of ill will against Blizzard that they really don’t deserve.
@ Flak
LOL! double double same same :-)
To Sesshoumaru. Eyes of the beast work on him no problem. My Broks goes skipping around Dalaran like a little girl in a red cape with a pic-i-nic basket.
If blizz decides to revert of Garwals I’ll be a tad bummed but neither surprised nor devastated. While Ghost wolf crocoslime etc were tameable through normal game mechanics although “creative” ones on the part of the g wolfs) our Garwal tames are monkeying with glitching the system at just the right time, depending on server lag to grab a nifty pet, not through our own abilities… though i admit the timing to hit that bit o’ lag takes considerable skill. It is an exploit in every sense of the word but I guess it just comes down to who the hell cares. “I did a very minorly naughty thing on a game, spank me.” Too many people have tamed him at this point for blizz to punish anyway.
And I’m all with you Neilaren #22. If beautiful Brock goes it frees up a stable spot for stupendous Skoll.
Oh god lord… Please forgive my grammar, I’ve been up all night working on lab reports. >.<
@46:
“As far as GM are concerned they are Customer Service Rep, they are allowed to make certain changes and decisions but when major issues come into play decisions come from upstairs. So you can ask 20 different GMs and get 20 different answers.”
QFT – while still not rock solid reliable (e.g. conflicting spirit wolf statements), comments from blues on the forums are nonetheless far moreso than what is said by GMs during in-game help tickets… at least that has been my experience with things like the (still unfixed!) silithid glitch, and more recently when trying to get credit for last year’s midsummer bonfires…
If it does end up being removed at least I have some great pictures and memories of working with Alliance, each of us taking it in turns to try and tame it – cheering and comforting depending on the outcome.
OMG I was so close to taming it last night at like a 11:30 and then I went to bed…..big big BIIIIIIG mistake :*(
@ Suzi 67.
That is the best possible way to deal with all this silliness.
We are hunters! Hear us LOVE!
/cuddle
World of Lovecraft… hey waitaminit you might have something there…
lol im reallytrying not to get my hopes up bout the worgen, consittering i still got a good 9 lvls to go before i can even tame him >.< but its late so im off to bed, hopfuly he will stillbe tameable by the time the servers are back up D: i can only hope! once servers are back up after matenence could someone confirm if he is or is not hotfixed??? will keep me going to power lvling my hunter like crazy to get this beautifuly beast
@ Suzi
I love the (polite and friendly) sign language between us hunters and the real help we lent each other clearing trash and talking to our ‘fellow’ toons. Most toons on both sides were great about the event. Some toons (mostly not hunters trying to do the quest quick) were real jerks.
It would be nice if Blizz turned it into a 1 night a year, Blue Moon taming thingo where horde and alliance hunters have to work together to get the supercool worgen-ish pet. Maybe as a moon gig to usher in the shortening of days after the peak of midsommer.
Problem
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the tamed worgen looks like a normal wolf both in the stable and login screen.
Solution #1
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Blizzard decides to fix it: players wont be able to tame Garwal anymore BUT already tamed worgens will be left untouched AND login screen/stable will be fixed aswell
Solution #2
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Blizzard decides to fix it: no more taming and worgen skin removed (tamed ones will be seen as wolves).
Technically speaking I think Blizzard would choose Solution #2. Ethically speaking should choose Solution #1, thanks to previous bugged pets (ghost wolf, ooze, …).
Well good luck Sesshoumaru, but I’d bet money that they hotfix this today. :-/
And yes I’m lurking, I’m a lurky lurker. I am lurkerly lurking on Mania’s luverly lurker-less blog. }-<((((<((*)8 (<- That’s a lurky fish)
The full rollback certainly would likely be easier for them to implement especially on short notice (than for them to spend additional programming resources fixing up something players were never intended to have), but the fact they are having a “discussion” strongly suggests there are at least some at Blizzard who favor the more PR/customer service-friendly approach… and as others have mentioned they have put in fixes for unintended/locked tames in the past, so who knows.
@ Angelen:
‘Fact: Worgen are Humanoid. Fact: Garwal is Beast.’
Yes but you forget, Worgen, the ORIGINALS were NOT human-cursed. Naga; untameable because they were night/high elves. Druids; obviously NOT true beasts. yada yada for nearly ALL humanoid species of Azeroth. Yeti’s…
.. we have gorillas who care’s about a yeti.
But the thing is Worgen’s when they were first dragged into Azeroth, I did ally quest chains mentioning them, were wolf-creatures. They didn’t shape shift. they were fuzzy things that were not human and had a pack like mentality. Arugal was the one to corrupt them and drag them to higher intelligence.
IMO a NORMAL Worgen, which I assume Garwal is, is NOT human-cursed, was NEVER human, is a BEAST that can speak.
Now taming human-cursed worgen, eeeeh no. No thanks. But Garwal? And other pure worgen? Should be fair game imo. They -are- wolves.
Then there’s also the fact repeatedly it’s mentioned Azerothian saurians, aka the raptors are HIGHLY intelligent. Hell for the Ravasaur quest for the horde, the hatchling you recive can draw pictograms!
@ Dalaila ShadowsongEU
‘Blizzard decides to fix it: players wont be able to tame Garwal anymore BUT already tamed worgens will be left untouched AND login screen/stable will be fixed aswell’
AND Arena deworgen buffo thingos.
Personally, I don’t do arenas and wouldn’t take a wolf to them if I did but…
Actually, I’m quite happy just to keep him even with the login screen/stable thing…o.
@ Ryai
Bloody good point about the horde ravasaur quest.
As a completely tangental point of anthropological interest: You can’t tame and put to work beasts that are not at least as much like the tamer that they cannot communicate and empathise with him/her.
Dogs speak human up to a point. I challenge anybody to tame and train a mantis :-) (though I have some geeky scientific friends who have done similarly silly things).
Hunters can tame Cats….. That is far less likely than teaching a worgen to tap dance and serve drinks in a tutu.
Fact remains. Garwal is a wolf in freakin’ cool skin and I got him fair and square :-)
I seem to recall that the worgen in duskwood had an alien/extra-dimensional origin and did not shapeshift out of their wolfy/bipedal form… but that the ones in pyrewood and solstice villages were humans that had received the classical werewolf curse – if not then why is Arugal able to “bring out your inner wolf” with his polymorph? Regardless, if he is able to do that then it stands to reason you could have a worgen with a wolf (not alien/other) mind.
@Ryai #76.
You do have a point there. You can be given a curse of the worgen that akin to lycanthropy but the real worgens arn’t humans, they’re just goofy looking wolves. Staff of Elune sound familiar to anyone else?
The raptors always bugged me too. They’re sentient enough to be stealing silver, wear tribal-esque feathers, and make tons and tons of stone arrow heads but they’re still bestial enough to be tamed… Kinda like leading a neanderthal around on a leash.
Scythe of Elune! Forgive me.
My hunter scrambled to get the worgen, it was one of the most exciting things I have done on WoW and it reminded me why I even started playing. It gave me the same thrill I used to get playing another mmorpg while taming a highly sought after pet while others watched and tried to kill me for it. Hehe..
That said.. from a programmer’s prospective the most logical future for this pet(seeing how his form is only a debuff/buff type thing) is that they will as said above probably refresh his code forcing all of the current worgen to go back to the white puppy stage. If it wasn’t just a spell that showed his form, he would indeed be another ghost wolf trophy pet, but as it is right now.. he is pretty fragile. There are a number of regular events that cause him to revert as is, so in my eyes he was never permanent.
I still named him and run around with him like a giddy school girl none the less.
77 – are u serious?
@ Scott
Very well informed, if somewhat geeky :-)
@Dvatori
Very observant, if a bit touchy feely for creepy lizzardy thingos.
@ Everybody
(on an ethical level) Hunters shouldn’t be allowed to tame Gorillas… but we can.
(on a realistic level) Hunters shouldn’t be allowed to tame cats, spiders, scorpions or other non-tamable critters.. but we can.
If push came to shove in the anthropological world, we wouldn’t tame the worgen, we would buy them drinks, promise them dates and con them into buying real-estate.
Ok first time ever posting a 3rd time on a single set.
Ghost Wolves were spirts….ghosts..undead…go look in Shadowfang Keep or many other places which use the same skin. So the argument that Worgen are Humanoids and were never Meant to be tamed… is Entirely Moot.
The Hydra and the Ooze are also Spirits for that matter. Not in exactly the same way as the Ghost Wolf but still…
Point is, they were all classified as beasts for a short time..so we as Hunters did what we do. We went out and Tamed them.
Garwal is NO different than ANY other Beast which had not been planned originally.
@ malikith
Kisses
To tell you the truth, i do not feel sorry for the people who aren’t able to tame him because they already did the quests. I feel sorry for one person… the hunter Witten (I think that was his name). He tamed one months ago and wouldn;t tell anybody hyow he did it. Poeple thought he was rude and mean about not saying how he did it. Now you can see why. It takes a genious to figure something out like this. It took me 3 hours to get mine, and I knew how to do it. He did it not knowing if it was possible. If they take all the garwals away, i can live with that, but I would petition blizz to let Witten keep his. he was the first to have it, he’s had it for monthds and he said nothing about how to tame it because he wasnted a unique pet. in my opinion, it he deserves it. So, if we do lose our pets, we should have enough class to petition Blizz to let him have his worgen. And no, I don’t know Witten, never will know Witten,, or anything of that sort. i just have respect for him for figuring this out.
Says you Angelen. I would have my own Worgen army at my beck and call.
Pft who cares about Arugal he was a nutter.
I would promise them doggy biscuits, deer and squeak toys 8)
Edit: was just joking btw :p posted to soon.
And it was Scythe of Elune? I thought it was a staff O.o … granted it’s been 8 months since I did the quest lol.
Angelén are u serious with the 77 post? :S pls answer coz I die because of the excitement :S
@ Angelen
The two pretty much go together, as it happens… plus I can’t usually be bothered with loading up my posts with emo stuff to make them seem more cuddly. Heh.
Ethics? In a world like wow, teaming up with and training a gorilla could be seen as a matter of enhanced survival for both hunter and “pet”; you would just use sign language to send it into combat instead of yelling “SICCEM!”
For the others, well… big cats are certainly tamable else we wouldn’t see them in circus shows… and in any case in a world with magic, things are only “unrealistic” until the next patch…
@ Ryai
Says me what? I already give doggy biscuits, squeaky toys AND smelly favourite walking boots to mine AND hit him on the snout with a rolled up newspaper when he broke into my pron stash :-)
@ Dweezill
I totally disagree and totally agree at the same time. I helped as many hunters as I could to get the ghost sabre cat years ago. I think that’s a hunter thing to do. We get crap from everybody for being outsiders so I think we should do everything cross factional to help each other.
On the other hand, if Blizz does take Garwal away from all of the rest of us, the real firster should have a shrine with statues at every hunter trainer.
@ Drag
Poor drag: look above. I was quoting hopefulness and adding my own.
SOZ :-(
Dweezil-
Do you know for sure that Witten didn’t just go in trying to tame a wolf with a pale skin and had himself a happy surprise? Did he ever post about his intentions (and even if he did, it’s not hard to imagine someone stumbling onto this and later recounting it as a brilliant, calculated effort once it has exploded into a popular phenomenon)?
@ Scott
Good points but that would mean he went into a boss quest fight without a pet….. pretty stupid. That would make him the luckiest dumbf!@k ever to have populated the servers and so still deserves shrines.
nooo.. i cant survive if they took my love away! i love my worgen, hes the best pet ever, i love him soo much! :’( but if they tok the worgen away! took the ooze the hydra and the spirit wolf tooo! i have them, so if i lost my worgen, i must lost the other too! or ill spam the gms with my emo messages… oh my god
Drag-booby (YIDDISH TERM OF ENDEARMENT), we all feel the same.
Get some serious cuddling/fetch time in and hope for the best.
Night all.
This is, without a doubt, the first time I have ever prayed to wake up next to a dog faced humanoid.
Scott,
A) What the poster in #95 said.
B) Luck or not, he di and it should be immortalized for it. Wether it luck or skill, if not for him, we wouldn;t be having this discussion right now.
C) I find it hard to believe that he did it by dumb luck and now there is a “pattern” to getting him. Something tells me it was more than dumb luck.
-.- … i joked a little only
Well I’ve been lurking both this topic and the previous one for a few days now…slightly envious of all the hunter that have him (I remember completing this quest very early on), but the feeling isn’t any different to when the Battle Bot was announced off-limits to EU inhabitants, or when I found out my new Dragonhawk will not be donning armour to fight off Horde in PvP…things happen.
I just popped in to give my wishes to everyone who has put the time and effort into taming their worgen, and that I truly hope you are all able to keep your companions. My thoughts go out to you all. =3
Kindest regards,
Tyuriwen. xXx
Well, after a discussion with a GM yesterday, two things were said that disheartened me.
1) the GMs would not be letting those already completed the quest chain redo the last quest (thus giving us the Level 5000 sight spell) to tame this unique pet, and…
2) “This pet is a bug and in violation of the EULA due to exploitation, and will most likely be removed from the game users.” – translation: everyone who took the tine to get him might be in for a rude shock.
However, even though this solution was threatened, I’m maintaining the optimism that this will be fixed like the faux crocs and ghost wolf. For them to take this pet away from hunters like that and not the rest of us who have such retired pets would be inconsistent from Blizzard’s normal method of fixing pet bugs.
So I would say grats to all the hunters that tamed this beast, and I would say you’re pretty safe keeping him. I missed him, but I do have a slime and ghost wolf, so I’m still a happy hunter.
Ang, I probably wasn’t totally clear in my last post – it’s very plausible that Witten was simply tooling around Howling Fjord, doing quests and saw a cool looking wolf with pale fur walking around Rivenwood, so he decided to tame it and just kill the next spawn for quest credit. Maybe to bring it into a clear spot he tags it with serpent sting, or simply ends up doing some initial damage and then decides partway through the fight “hey wait, this thing is cool looking ima tame it!”, and lo and behold he happens to be the hunter who happened to play the garwal lottery right when the sun/moon/stars were in the correct alignment… and voila.
Not saying it’s impossible that he actually was intending to get a worgen but if that was the case then it would have still required either insane luck (how many hunters have finished the tame *seemingly* at the right time but still got a wolf, or even had him start walking to hunter’s side as a worgen… but change to a wolf millisecond later, etc – without the testimony of other successful hunters I don’t know how you keep going in the face of that) or else he was drawing his inspiration from a crystal ball.
Either way I think Witten’s true reward was being the owner of a truly unique pet for (several months?) before Blizzard decided to close it down – similar to how I consider solo’ing certain elites way more of an “achievement” than getting 10 achievement points just for walking around a dang zone…
i dont know why but when i tamed him, i never thought about it being taken away from me. it was evident that i may keep it. like the ooze. its not a beast.. its.. an ooze :S so i dont why they want to took him away… its not logician, and cruelty
I love my little worgen(s), as I tamed two. Incase I accidentally snet one into arena.
I didn’t use the above method, as, being lower-level (75) I needed to find my own percentages and times.
52% 13sec.
It’s worked three times (once I helped an 80 by wyvshotting and telling him when to hit tame)and I’m pretty hapy with the results.
The 80 was too, though he had to take off most of his gear to not have a gazzilion haste.
I do love all this “violation of the EULA due to exploitation” stuff that has been flying around,…yes little hunter, how dare you put a beast to sleep to tame it,..wait…you used a freeze trap to hold a beast while you tamed..VIOLATION!!
Plain and simple, like they have in the past, Blizz left a hole and it turned into a flood. Ain’t the first time, sure it won’t be the last. Its a skin, (a cool looking one) the worgen has no more advantages then any other wolf or worg, just looks cool. Maybe if they gave us a little customization of pets (looks not skills) everyone wouldn’t be rushing to grab them.
@ Magua
I suspend my slumber to give big kisses
@ Magua:
The idea of customization of pets has ALWAYS been at the back of my mind. =3 Even if it’s as simple as feathers and/or beads, scars, things like that…it would really open up an entirely new world of possibilities within the hunter community.
Reminds me of dressing up Pokemon before a Contest… xD
Gromtal; if you’ve ever had discussions with more than a handful of game mods, you will find that there are different answers from different people. I’ve had about a dozen get my jokes and laugh- especially when I try to put some humor into a keylogger raining fem orc corpses outside the AH in the spelling of a site.
Or when I was on my ally hunter on hellfire, and made a joke about the spiders on bloodmyst isle, and the GM didn’t get it at all.
‘Do you need anything else?’
‘Well I wouldn’t mind if you could loan me a can of raid for these spiders..’
‘No I can’t help you with quests’
so ye.
If you talk with a GM you kinda have to hope you get a decent, wise one. Otherwise you can end up with what you recived.
That and how is it an exploitation? Tbh it IS no different than the Spirit Wolves- they were beasts and tameable and had a timer to cause them to die after a certain ammount of time. Blizzard apploauded those high enough in level and with enough brains/friends to grab them.
Before taking them out :/
the Worgen is no different.
Exploitation imo is like when you do something for massive benifit, cause really how are we benifiting from taming Garwal? Ok sure we have a shiny skin. But do we have a pet with a super powerful attack? No. Is he immune to attacks? Oh hell no. Yeah it’s a bummer for those who have done the quest- and I feel for you guys, but if Blizzard takes the worgen out, they should ALL be taken out. This isn’t like a Gladiator mount.
And I’m sorry but I really don’t have sympathy for Witten [read some more posts], he tamed Garwal, he never said who or what he tamed. People were scrambling and some threw out Garwal but ofc it was shot down. He turns into a wolf, does he not? Was it the UP mob? No- couldn’t be. Untameable.
Because of his greed he caused the eruption in the first place of MUST FIND WORGEN PET.
Which naturally lead to people wanting/requesting game mods to reset a quest. Seriously people THAT would set off the red alert to blizzard!
One thing is for sure, for myself and I suspect many others – it’s one thing if they want to take away my tamed worgen; I’ll be a little pissed and that much more open to trying any reasonably decent competitor of WoW that should come along… but otherwise will do my best to getting back to huntering pre-worgen era… but if they actually try to slap a penalty on me for a so-called “EULA violation”, even if it’s just a 2 hour ban, then I will definitely cancel my account and give the real-life thing another try.
OTOH if they let us keep them, I see a happy and lasting relationship in the future. :P
Just tamed myself a ‘Spare’ worgen pet.
If blizz are to hotfix garwal then im not going to leave it to chance that in the future something may happen to my worgen which may revert its form…depending on whether or not blizz allows us privilaged few to keep them.
Just to add a textual prayer to the cybergods: Do not I pray thee take away my DreamWalker. I left the game after they “ouched” us BM hunters. I play hunter for my pets. I understood the OP issues, but they went so far that I can’t play my preferred spec in raids–and don’t want to trap dance etc. I am a BM hunter with nothing to do in the game now but PVE and low leve instances. THEN, along comes this pet. I don’t care that we don’t do any special damage with him. I tamed him and he is my partner. I mourned the loss of the spirit wolf so hard. If they revert his form, I will stay in the game with Loq and emo all over the place.
stop qqin its not likely they gonna delete it, perhaps maybe reset it.
i talked with a gm yesterday for anoter matter, and i did ask him if he knew why ppl who did the quest was uanble to have it reset, and i finnaly got a nice answer.
“where we are able to do so we cannot allow player to have a quest reset and less if that quest leads to an unintended use of a pet”
so as far as i know i got 3 posible measures blizz will take:
1.- Make anyone who completed the quest get the eagle eyes buff while on rivenwood, give a week or two and then make garwal untameable
2.-just make him unatameable and let anywho get it keep it as pet.
3.- Make him untameable and reset them on a future manteniance or patch so any worgen reverts to the white wolf model
4.- (not likely to ever happen but still an option) Just delete all pets with that model id
so 1 and 2 are the most likely to happen, beign 2 the usual measure blizz takes on this
A good thing that would come from this is that blizz may hear our wishes to give pets some armor, like the pimp my mount thing on april 1.
P.D. to the ones crying “oh blizz willl delete my pet qq quit wow” is gonna sound rude but..
Like we cared, one hunter more one hunter less, now go away already! cry your lonely corner mourning for your werewolf, like if it were the only cool pet in game
Here is the best argument in favor of us keeping them….go kill any worgen in the game…you can skin it after it’s dead. Therefore it is a beast, not a humanoid. And therefore, we should be allowed to keep them as pets. It may not have been intended to be a pet which is why it would be acceptable to make it no longer tamable, but we should be allowed to keep it based on the fact that game mechanics say it is a beast.
I can’t recall seeing anyone “QQing” about losing their worgen – everyone I’ve seen has said they would accept it and move on – got any examples? the only talk of cancellation has been if Blizzard rubs salt in people’s wounds by giving bans to worgen tamers for “EULA violations”, which is rather a different matter…
113 – its not important u dont care about that pet! but some of the hunters plays only now, coz we can have a cool pet, like loque nahak or gondria or hydra or whatever.. and now… we can finally got a worgen, the coolest pet in the game, and ill really sad if they took him away! why? coz i changed main to a druid, coz the hunter is now a ****, and i cant enjoy the game with that! but now when i got my dream pet, about what i dreamed always, a worgen, a half human, a half wolf BEAST, i enjoy the game. and its injustice if they took away that pet, and the others not!
116 – That’s just sad.
One thing to keep in mind in the “It’s a humanoid!” “No it isn’t!” “Yes it is!” back and forth:
What if Blizz IS planning to implement a Worgen player race down the road like the “leaked” plan?
The plan came out back around BC beta I believe, and while it could be fake, it has been pretty close so far as a rough guide. It’s getting fairly obvious that the next expansion is going to be the Maelstrom, given Blizz has trademarked “Cataclysm” which was next on the list. Now Blizz has said there’s problems with bringing Pandarians in, which was to be the Worgen’s opposite number, so that could be changing(perhaps to Furbolg?), but there’s no reason they couldn’t bring another race in and keep the Worgen.
That also makes one big distinction: neither the slime, ghost wolf, etc was ever a proposed player race. (Also, someone in the previous blog entry made reference to a time when Naga were tamable? I wasn’t around then, but obviously there’s no Naga pets running around now.) I think that’s part of the reason Blizz has said they’re discussing it, since this has forced them to think another expansion ahead than they planned to be doing at this time. I think that how they handle this will give us a clue whether the Worgen player race is still on the table: if they revert them, chances are in a couple expansions we can all reroll with fur if we choose.
118 – u have the point… we have no chance to keep him
118 – interesting question however even if they do someday make worgen a playable race, would (a limited number of one-time) tamed worgens really cause any more ambiguity than (the massive number of) druid bear and cat forms, which doubtless will look no more or less similar to hunter bears/panthers than garwal would to whatever graphic Blizz uses when/if they should make that player race (and bearing in mind anytime they roll out a new race, 99% likely it will use new graphics/model as part of the promotional effort)?
And let’s not forget stormcrows…
I am one of those hunters who did every quest in the fjord when WoTLK came out. I wish now I was not so focused on doing every single quest. I wish all the best to those hunters who were able to tame Garwal, and hope the awesome skin does not get taken away from you. I have Gondria to keep me satisfied for now, still looking for loque so I understand how it feels to tame a really awesome new pet with a unique skin you love. I do wish there was a way to allow us hunters who already did those quests to do it again, if they allow it, but highly doubt that will happen.
Hopefully this issue gets addressed soon, so again congrats to those who tamed him and here is hoping you get to keep him.
p.s. He is labeled as a wolf, beast lore says he is a wolf, if you kill him does he not get skinned? Just cause he can transform into a worgen with no special abilities sides his wolf skills does not make him a humanoid. Ayone else who thinks otherwise is taking this way to seriously.
Alright, I’m sick of reading all this pros/cons arguing.
Does anyone remember the 3.0 update right before wrath released? On my server there was a line 50 people long to go tame the white core hound, evenly distributed between alliance and horde. We hunters have a long history of working together both in and out of the game to meet our goals because they are so much different than every other class in the game.
Lets just step back and accept what comes down the line. Either you’ll keep the worgen, have it reverted, or get banned for exploitation. It’s your risk to take and isn’t really something that’s up for debate. We’re all just waiting for the response. Instead of everyone being fascinated with one pet, why don’t you go tame something you never see running around anymore???
If you can’t see it running around anymore, then you can’t tame it…
Unfortunately kinda have to agree with Drag- while I love my main hunter, the fun in pvp is gone. The fun in pve is gone. The fun in pugging is gone. Taming a worgen, actually gave me something fun to do, and it made me level a hunter alt who I’ve not touched for a couple months. When even the desire to tame King Krush, didn’t get me more than lv 62.
And then doing a mad dash of 3 levels in a day made me remember how much fun, a hunter was. How fun it is to have a goal to shoot for so you can tame a pet. To pug and no one minds if you accidently mess up cause of a stupid focus glitch. When the game was just that, a GAME for FUN.
LeoZero, the guy had a RIGHT to ‘QQ’ if Blizzard bans him or ANY of us, no matter how short or long, for taming the Worgen. Because this is a DOUBLE. STANDARD. MOVE. if they do that and I have to say I would NOT disrespect the man/woman for doing that. It’s their choice, their money.
Now will you please stop trolling. Ty.
i think they are thinking about it. if they really want a worgen race, and in the future u see a worgen that is attacking you, will u not know its a pet or a player? then we wont be able to tame the cats. the cheetah is a travel form, the spirit wolf, is a tan wolf in westfall or badlans. i think well cant keep that pet… but hope dies last.
they have in the past a BE skin.. that was really really… ugly. if they want to do a worgen race, then they will reskin him. so it will be not confusing.
i hope.
In an earlier post:
“Lets get one thing straight. Neither the hydra/slime or ghost wolf was ever “bugs”. It was a failure to apply one script to each one, “the unable to be tamed”.
How is this not a bug?? Failure to apply one script to each one=bug
Also taming Garwal isn’t exploiting anything. It’s not like those who tamed it are using an illegal addon or something like that. Being able to tame is simply a fault on Blizzard, the players have not(cannot) modified or changed the game coding/scripts so its not “exploiting” just taking advantage of a cool opportunity. If Blizz wants to remove/revert them, so be it, but just because you can’t get one it’s a little childish to make the hunters who did tame one seem like cheaters.
Ok guys heres my thoughts.
Slime, ghost croc, hydra and ghost wolf were all indeed not intended to be made tameable. BUT I think Blizz didnt touch them because there wasnt anything to revert them to. Garwal is different cause he is suppposed to turn into a regular wolf upon tame. He does so in arena, sooooo blizz just needs to make a script fix i think and all will be reverted. Theres nothing to revert the ghost wolf back into ot hydra or slime cause they only had one skin. Its like the croc who knew claw waay back when. he just fixed himself when he zoned. I think we might see a similar thing go on.
As for the skinning thing.. you can skin Onyxia and she is not a beast
If they take away my worgen I’ll be a little dissapointed, but it’s understandable. It’s Blizz’s decision and if they’re planning on creating a playable Worgen race in the future, I can see how having these pets would make things screwy. However I noticed on the hunter forums yesterday that jealous hunters had created a petition to remove the worgen from hunters who had tamed Garwal. I was kinda shocked how selfish this is. If I couldn’t get one I’d still /congrat those that did. Does anyone know if this has happened with ghost wolf/slime/hydra? Did people cry and make petitions when they couldn’t get those as well?
Realms have gone up and down for many people so far, and all still have their worgen skins. The quest has not been proven hotfixed by any posters yet, but… it probably is :)
On the topic of being banned for a “violation”….. well, i can see why people would complain. After all, it was Blizz who made the mistake of leaving it tamable. Why should the unters who were able to tame it be banned because Blizz didn;t act fast. After all, it was tamed months ago, and Blizz did nothing about it. I must say, if i get banned for any amount of time,i will be doing a lot of considering suring that time. Hunter are still my favorite class, and they are not as fun as they used to be (to me, anyway). If i am banned, i may leave the game. not sure yet. Like i said, i personally would use the “banned time” to consider what i wanan do as far as playing wow. there are other online games that are fun to pla. WoW is not the only one, and it is no the only fun one. so, Blizz has to remember that Hunters are the most popular class on the game, and by banning a lot of hunters, could lose a lot of business. I am not crying. just saying that i shouldn;t have to pay for Blizz’s mistake.
Sory for the double post, but my server just came back up and I have my Worgen (Lucian) still. So, we survived this maintanance
Still have mine too! Yay :D Still shows as wolf on login.
Dweezil – exactly. Now I’m gonna find someplace to level up Maul and hope for the best. :)
Scott, leveled mine by doing heroic dungeons. they level fast that way. 5 or 6 dungeons and they are 80.
130 Symphony – dunno if anyone had a jealous hissy fit about ghost crocoslimes but it wouldn’t surprise me; way back in the day, the MMORPG term “twink” was used exclusively in a hostile sense by people who just couldn’t get to sleep at night thinking that someone else, somewhere, (in a PVE environment) had something “better” than them.
Garwal is still tameable not sure if it still works worgen wise tho
Note one thing I’ve just noticed;
‘the cheetah is a travel form’
Cheetah/Travel for droods is SMALLER if I remember right, than a lv 70+ cheetah cat, it’s also a ‘place holder model’. Ever wonder why Travel is a hoof and not a paw with no claws?
And tbh I really don’t want Worgen’s as a playable race. they’re not like any of the current races, they’re not even like Centaurs- and WHAT side would they be on anyways? Who would want or trust them? I mean, it’s ‘not as easy as blood elves or draenei’ tho if they sided with alliance they’d probably be accepted faster than belves were for horde.
… that’s the one thing I QQ about. Rep for lowbie belves and forsaken. They don’t start off friendly like everyone else :(
Edit: Scott, twinks are different from being ‘better’. Go into a bg and everyone on your side is about the same, right? oh seems fun, lv 11-19 most people should have what, atm, 800/900 hp?
Go out.
OH MY GOD A LEVEL 19 WITH 3k HP.
Or was it 29.
I’m sorry but there’s a difference between being better and being ‘lololol I hit you with one attack and you die I’m so epic’.
According to one source (mind you one) Maintenance did NOT FIX THE QUEST :O
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18312415218&sid=1
Can more people try this out?
Ok, there’s too many comments for me to dig through, so I’m just gonna pick on a few that caught my eye.
Dalaila:
No, the Ooze is not a beast. The other 3 are but nowhere else in the entire game is an Ooze a beast. It’s technically unclassified, we can’t even track them….well…unless we get Track Unclassified. XD
And I’m not sure what’s broken about the northrend wolves, you have to remember theylope around because they use the same Wolf-mount animations XD
Ryai:
I would love worgens to be a playable race. But I realie that’s a pipe dream. i’d much rather have some High Elves to play as. AND THAT’S WHAT YOU GET FOR BEING BLOOD ELVES!!! I kid, I kid, just some playful fun ;)
Dweezil:
Exactly my sentiments. If I’m banned over taming a beast and using a code that they didn’t forsee being used in an askew manner, then I think it’s time I left WoW anyways.
Unknown:
“Lets get one thing straight. Neither the hydra/slime or ghost wolf was ever “bugs”. It was a failure to apply one script to each one, “the unable to be tamed”.”
The wolf could be considered a bug and thus it technically was one as it falls under the “wasn’t the intentions of the mechanics of the game to be used as such”. The reason Blizzard didn’t bother to put up the “untameable” tags on Ghost wolves was because they only lived for 7.5 seconds! Blizzard had no idea that getting tame beast to only 7.3 seconds was even possible.
But we figured out a way and did it.
Garwal, wasn’t intended to be tamed as a worgen and even shifted back after taming.
But we figured out a way using normal game mechanics and tame beast coding and did it.
Both Ghost Wolf and Garwal are bugs. Simply put. As for the Ooze, I dunno wth they were thinking with those 3 spirits. They knew they were tameable from day 1 in Beta, so why it suddenly made a difference 5 months later is beyond me.
That’s why I said “PVE environment”; I can understand people grumbling about twinking being used in PVP but only to an extent – after all, whose fault is it that players can use high level cash earnings to buy up low lvl epics and then mail them to a lowbie alt? Sure people can try and avoid that and “do the right thing”, but after they’ve been trounced for the tenth time by people that don’t bother with those scruples, it probably becomes a case of “might as well join ‘em if you can’t beat ‘em” – until Blizzard removes the ability for people to twink, that will continue to be the overall end result.
Another rare pet i won’t have the opportunity to tame…
Furthermore, can anyone say whether they’ve tamed garwal since maintenance or not?
Ok a 4th post..wow.
About Witten. Doesnt matter at all if he tamed it on accident or on purpose. He told no one where or how he got it so he ISNT the “father of us all getting the werewolf” by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Id wager how we came to KNOW about this werewolf was a “happy accident” while someone was trying to tame garwal the white wolf and ended up getting garwal the werewolf.
And enough on that.
I hope we can ALL keep our Worgen.
We who have put in the time and effort deserve our Reward.
AND there SHOULD be things like this every so often..at different levels. It gives us Hunters something to look forward to beyond Raids, etc.
We are HUNTERS. Let us HUNT!.
Rikaku – Yes, we are getting reports the worgen form can still be tamed. Which is frankly, really, really wierd.
@ rikaku
i would go tame a second one to test that if my server wasnt getting worl server downs
2:00 pm Tuesday, Loaded in, Pulled Garwal from the stables ( I knew it wouldn’t hide him but it made me feel safer.) He is -still- a worgen. Who knows for how much longer, but it seems he’s another week from euthinasia at least. No knowledge of if he is still tamable or not.
Confirming the skin is safe from the maintenance. Woot! Now, to get that last 15% of a level and test to see if Garwal is still tameable!
I’m guessing he is, since they didn’t announce the hotfix yet. Usually stuff like this, they don’t stealth hotfix since it’s big news. Fingers crossed!
Garwals are people too, Save the Gawals!
ok here’s the way I see it Garwal is a worgen but his main form is a wolf and he never showed human form at all, therefore I think he’s too far gone to be considered human anymore. He behaves like a wolf after tame and therefore has ideal pet coding with only one minor glitch, which is the same with other pets in the past that were not intended to be tamable.
Also does anyone else think it would be hilarious if a hunter waited in que to tame Garwal, got the wolf form of it with no intent of getting the worgen form, /cheered it, /bowed to everyone and then walked away?
to all you hunter’s (including myself)
that did get Garwal, have a Gingersnap :)
My guess is they’re working with a smaller staff than in past and so there just wasn’t time to get the hotfix included in today’s maintenance… that would also tend to explain the late/minimal blue commentary on the matter.
Hmm interesting. No sudden hotfix? I’m…surprised. Though now I’ll be paranoid all week. But this does mean Blizzard is debating what to do, and I kind of see this a jury thing. The longer it takes to say the decision the more it might be in our favor that we get to keep our worgens once its hotfixed.
and is it me, or is Petopia showing up as “suspended’ O_o
we are not safe still! well have only the maintenance after 9 hour… will possible they fix it in the europen realms?
Rikaku: It’s not just you. I’m trying to find out what’s going on now.
are you eve reading all what i wrote and all coments before? there was some ppl that posted “if they take my worgen off i quit wow”, thats what i mean i dont care if you quit if you got banned well you know why maybe it will be unfair but you did know the risk.also if you dont enjy something anymore then stop playing it.
anyway like if that pet
wel have to wait to see what blizz does about this, and again i tell you the options
1.- Make anyone who completed the quest get the eagle eyes buff while on rivenwood, give a week or two and then make garwal untameable
2.-just make him unatameable and let anywho get it keep it as pet.
3.- Make him untameable and reset them on a future manteniance or patch so any worgen reverts to the white wolf model
4.- (not likely to ever happen but still an option) Just delete all pets with that model id
anyone got anything else?
Mania: Oh ok, sometimes my Firefox gets uppity and brings up old data on sites I visit. So I wasn’t sure.
And finally, YAY! Maxwell isn’t alone. There’s at least 2 other Worgens on my realm now. No, I’m not being sarcastic, I’m geniunely happy ^^
Scott my point still stands, if you can’t play decently with your gear at the level you’re supposed to get, but have to rely on enchants that at the time had -no- level limits when they should have, there is ‘nothing better about you’. Sorry but that’s how I see things. I never went twink and I don’t support twinking.
I’ve actually made enemies by telling people off, wanting me to help them twink out or group to get an item to twink :/
But Twinks =/= Garwal and Blizzard is FINALLY going to further fix the twink-normal player issue.
Cause to be honest half the reason I hate pvping is I can’t enjoy it at lower levels, not even long enough to earn 1 mark. And then there’s the people that all /leave cause heaven forbid horde/ally are losing!
But yeah now I started to rant so.
Leozero; you’re basically repeating what has been repeatedly repeated over the last few days :c
And no they won’t delete the pet, they just have to remove the buff that’s hidden/stealthed. That’s what ARENA does/WHY it resets Garwal.
@Leozero I don’t think anyone would really expect to get account actioned for this. This would be the ONLY time in my recollection that a hunter taming a pet got account actioned… if they banned/suspended us for this.
Someone look at their pets talents and bestial wrath. It seems they took all talnets off him and he’s immune to hunter buffs or something?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18326614827&sid=1
Very sneaky Bliz.
weird, can’t get my wogens spell/ability bar to show up. Switched pets and its fine. Probably a regular bug though.
I’ve got the same problem, opened a ticket and am now waiting.
Shi- I bet THATS their hotfix. Make him undesireable. WTH Blizz. Either remove him or make him a pet, don’t do this half ass crap!
“However he’s apparently had all his skills and talents removed and is basically just for show now. Pointless to use.”
Looks like we got the answer we didn’t want to hear, apparently blizz made the pet relatively unuseable until they can figure out how to get rid of it permanantly. Another possibility is that they were going to let us keep it as is and the patch to make him untameable borked the ones in everyones stables. /cry
.. this blows
My guess is that they didnt have time make a proper fix and this was done as a stop gap until they could make one.
Im sorry, but this is bull. Can’t feed it, buff it, or even make it remotely useful. I didn’t want this pet for vanity Bliz, I wanted it because I loved it!
wow cant even spell how much this sucks
Yup, I was just about to report this selfsame thing. A guildmate called it to my attention, I was so busy being relieved that his skin was safe I didn’t even bother checking his functionality.
And I wasted a damn 7day CD on a scroll of rename, which also did bupkis. :(
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2239/worgenhotfix.png
but… he cant run away :) u have an unique worgen skin.. a non cmbat pet :(
An “exploit” means you were using a bug to get a real, material advantage over other players – it’s one thing to get banned for using a GM item to one-shot instance bosses e.g. Exodus – THAT is an exploit in the true sense of the word and anyone doing such a thing cannot honestly claim to be surprised when they receive disciplinary action; as was stated in that case, the exploit involved “trivializing dungeon content” that was meant to require large numbers of well geared players all working together, resulting in achievements, special gear yadda yadda – quite another thing to penalize someone who simply went after a buggy tame that resulted in no measurable advantage over other players whatsoever.
FWIW I’m aware that 99% likely Blizzard knows this and wouldn’t seriously consider bans or punishments even in the event they decide to yank everything out and take the PR hit right on the chin, because at that point they’d just be shooting themself in the foot when they really can’t afford (in the most literal sense of the word) to be dissing the largest class segment in the game (or second largest if you’re considering DKs… bearing in mind though, most hunters likely have a DK alt…)
Ryai, if you’ve taken the high ground to pvp twinking then a tip of the hat for remaining above it all… but once again my beef is just with people who complain about twinks in a *PVE* environment, where it truly is nothing more than gear envy.
Yep, the worgen is now effectively useless for anything other than showing off in Dalaran. No talent tree, no skills, can’t feed it – can’t even rename it so mine is stuck as “Wolf” because I didn’t think of an awesome name in time. Nice of them to let us know they’d done it – OH WAIT. I’m hoping it’s like Tardicus said and it’s temporary until they figure out a better solution – I’d rather they removed it permanently than left it as it is…
The wild mob is also bugged, though – according to Beast Lore he’s still tameable, but – he really isn’t (I was going to go and get a second one in case I broke the first one, but I guess that doesn’t matter now :P) Might make a “wtf” ticket to a GM asking where my pet talents have gone and see what they say… XD
As for Petopia being broken, I bet we overloaded the server with this worgen thing ;)
just like everyone else said, blizzard is dumb….. either get rid of the pet or let us keep him functionally. dont make him a giant vanity pet you lazy bastards.
But here’s the important thing: Can you still tame a new one? :P
Well, this isn’t quite what I expected them to do. I figured they’d go through the database and purge the “buff” that enables worgen form on all of the tames. Instead, it appears that they’ve set all his fields to null or some such – not scaling, no abilities, no foods, no family, no talent class.
It’s a trophy now.
thats the worst way of fixing… how can they do this?
lol Syris wernt u one of the posters b4 saying we should all be banned ?
This is my opinion on the matter, courtesy of my post on the forums. Before, regardless of what they chose, I wasn’t gonna be mad. But this, this is just underhanded and wrong. So now, I’m mad.
“You know, this recent decision was the worst one I think they could come up with. Honestly, you guys debated and *this* was the option you chose? Honestly, just revert the worgens back to a worg was better than this crap. This is just pure underhanded and avoiding making a decision.
I said this in WG, and it’s appropriate here too:
You guys must’ve trained to fail this hard.”
@ Snuzzled – no, you can’t tame a new one. Garwal has been made untameable (although according to Beast Lore there’s no change, which may have something to do with why our pets are bugged – a simple hotfix may not have been enough…)
I suppose on the bright side he kept his worgen looks – for now, at least >.<
Oh I’m keeping my worgen. It took a year before my ghost wolf could run. I’ll be *censored* before I let my worgen go and then see “oh he’s fixed!” >=/
And thus ends my Hunter fun. Since my spec is broken and I feel actually dirty when I’m SV or MM, looks like back to druid for me.
Jeez that’s so lame. I was at 95% through 70 on my alliance hunter alt before I started hearing that he was bugged. SO. ANGRY.
*Syris – It’s a trophy now*
but its a trophy i will keep.
*Drag – thats the worst way of fixing… how can they do this?*
well, even though you have been able to tame him for a long time now, i dont think they have been aware that you could actually time it so he would stay worgen,
Until now when the big “How To Tame A Worgen” wave hit.
and thats like…two days ago now?! It might have been to short notice for the Blizz team to find a way to”fix” the pet at this maintainance and rather put it on some bad way of “standby mode” until they have a final solution about the tamed worgen.
also i wonder if this might be a result of the server restart instead.
that the realms somehow finaly figured they are NOT a wolf and by then treats it as a uknown pet or companion.
could that possibly be the case?
and sorry my bad english.
How is BM broken?
B_Thompson:
BM is totally broken. We’re not even competitive DPS compared to SV or MM. Tell me how it’s not a broken spec at the moment XD
Now we have reports they turned it into an exotic pet.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18312415395&sid=1
Don’t get pissy, was just asking. I’ve never played bm and was thinking of converting over to it.
Hmm .. mine is certainly not exotic right now. I spec’d Kaet back to BM last night and she still can’t use hers. But we should definitely keep an eye on this.
B_Thompson
I wasn’t getting pissy O_o If I came off like that, my apologies. That’s how I normally talk. I kind of thought you could tell I wasn’t being completely serious by my emoticons, but I guess not. Sorry.
No problem, my bad. I just woke up, no doubt I’m the moody one here. ^^ I don’t want to switch to a broken spec though, does the BM tree at least have better survivability?
B_Thompson:
No worries. =) Well it’s just a matter of DPS. I mean, I can still beat a bad SV or a Bad MM player, but 2 similarly skilled & geared players who are SV and MM will beat me by a huge margin. Blizz keeps saying they’ll balance it but…well..we know how that goes.
BM has the best survivablity hands down in PvE though. If you have a tenacity (or know how to kill fast with a ferocity), you will find you can take on just about anything with little to no problem.
I’ve been speed leveling like mad, all by my lonesome, I found out sunday night, and went from level 53 to 64, couldn’t get high enough to tame him before the server restarts. I’m heart broken. I’ve never been more interested in a hunter in my life. I’ve always loved how the worgen look.
No, it’s definitely not exotic. My hunter is BM and has always been BM. She still cannot use him.
I’m sv, and i took it out of te stable just now and it’s still a worgeen.
he only has 5k health though, lol.
I understand that people are upset about the situation, but please remember to be civil and respectful to each other (even if you can’t manage that towards Blizzard right now). :> And do please be mindful of your language.
petopia is susspended?
I’m simply *amazed* that there’s been no blue post on this since the hotfix. With the sheer amount of players Blizzard are currently pissing off with this, you’d think the least they could do is let us know what’s going on…
Also, I love that Garwal has his own Myspace and Facebook pages now! hehe :P
“No, it’s definitely not exotic. My hunter is BM and has always been BM. She still cannot use him.”
It was just a joke about BM and exotic pets being useless. You can check on that topic.
im glad hes stilll there with his skin an still tameable…but screwing with him like this, some hotfix :/ hopfuly its only temporairy while they figure out what there really going to do with him. Im still gonna lvl my hunter like mad an get one myself an hold onto it till its determind if he will be reuseable or not, and tameable…goodjob blizz…probably one of the of biggest fails in a hotfix you could of chosen :/
isn’t TAMABLE anymore tho.
Mine doesn’t have a talent tree, doesn’t scale with anything. he doesn’t have growl or any of that stuff, he can only attack stuff. but i can still use him, idk what’s up. i put him in the stables before the restarts last night, and took him out this morning.
@ oh lawl
learn to read previous posts dude
I was just confirming it.
Oh Lawl-
I talked to a GM and I quote; “The pet was a bug” made me sad “But the upside is, you can still keep him, not usable, but good for looks” Made me very happy. So you all can stop worrying about them disappearing tomorrow.
ok no seriously am i the only one who cant get on petopia?
just checked – I cant access it either (petopia, to be clear)
the picture book website of pretty tameable pets i cant tame anymore but dam i still like to look at the gallery of pets lol
You may want to take a look at this post: http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/07/07/technical-difficulties-on-petopia/
Suckish he’s completely useless now though =/ He was a good pet while he lasted *Sigh*
When I first read about the possibility of taming a worgen, I was immmediately excited and my boredom for the game dissapeared. At lvl 80 with full stuff and having done most raids and donjons multiple times, I now spend alot of times looking for that difficult to find vanity pet or exploring pet frontiers.
Nothing compares to the excitement of the hunter fionally baggin his rare elite such as Gondria and Loque.
I spend a long time getting the casts just right to tame my worgen, not mentionning the cost of changing my talent sto get th wyvern sting and back to my original talent tree.
I was so happy that I shared it with all of you. I wanted hunters to get that pleasureable experience for themselves. Many have and a few hunter friends I ehelped were so excited about the pet. They spent time levelling them, gave them the coolest names they could find.
36 hours later we all were amputated from that pleasure. Intentional or not Blizzard did release that code with the possibility of taming the worgen. Did I not tame King Krush using a low level spell removing potion I got from a forgotten ashenvale quest?
We are just using their features and we should not be “involved” in the decision process regarding improvements on existing code such as rendering a worgen untamable.
What Blizzard is really saying is that they do not intend to fully own the responsibility of their development team and blame the players for whatever “Flaw” we are taking advantage of.
The fact is, the vast majority of players affected by this decision have been hurt by it.
No matter what the circumstances are, is it healthy to bite the hand that feeds you?
If you did bite it, would you appolgize or tell its owner that they deserved it?
Are they going to delete my account if I have such an opinion?
I’ve heard people saying that theirs is unusable? I can confirm that i can switch mine in and out of the stable, and still use it.
I swear, my troll lady has no luck at all. No more worgen for that hunter alt!
At times like this the paranoid side of me thinks that the REAL reason Blizz nerfed the Worgen was because so many people were leveling their hunter alts ferociously to tame it, that they were afraid we’d break the servers. I can just imagine a team of WoW developers sitting around their desk the morning after the holiday weekend going over some game related problems: “Hmm, people still waiting to get into instances. Some classes’ abilities still not working properly. Hunter population on servers increased by 50%. New Worgen skinned pet tamed, with normal hunter pet abilities. OMG THE HUNTERS ARE ALL LEVELING TO GET THE WORGEN PET. TOO MANY HUNTERS! Servers are hiccuping from the strain! We’d better get on this right quick, hotfix it NOW!”
You know, rather than nerfing the pet perhaps Blizzard should have took a harder look at the good it was doing for the hunter community. People were leveling up their hunters together, helping each other tame, and for many of them getting their dusty alts out of the closet and getting reinterested in the class again, only to get their hopes squished into the ground. All over one pet. Yes, granted this is only one pet, but…Blizzard should take this as a big hint…hunters want more pets, more variety of pets. And for most of here that come to Mania’s site, we can probably agree, 50% of our class is the pet we have. Sometimes I wonder if Blizzard just does things to the hunter class just to discourage everyone from playing it.
Wow. I’m speechless. Way to go, Blizz. Way to go. You just fixed a smudge on the widow with a hammer.
*window
I can’t get this any more? Oh this is just awful. My main hunter had done the quest already, so I dusted off a 70 alt, on the other faction, and started to level him after more than a year. I had him do quests I’d never seen, trying to get just one level, in time to tame He Who Would Become “LonChaneyJr”, or something equally clever, I’m sure. I put a lot of thought into my pets’ names.
I had to learn how to do new quests, how to travel through a zone as the ‘other’ faction, and how to play a character I’d not played in a long time. Did I say this was awful? No, it was wonderful. I would have loved to have gotten this pet, but the desire for it reintroduced me to my long-forgotten level 70 hunter from the faction I don’t normally play.
Still, to have gotten a werewolf as your partner in fighting? Ooh…too cool.
@ Wildtamer
At the moment, no. The pet is a plushtoy. No talents, can’t level, 5000 health…
I only hope Blizz changes it to a ‘normal’ pet like all the gwolves, oozes, hydrolysks etc.
@ Angelén
I have my plush toy. Like you, no talents, can’t level, but mine has over 10,000 health. I cannot feed Lucian (so now I have the Angry Red Face blaring at me while I play). I still use him in kills while doing dailies, but mend pet doesn’t make Lucian happy enough to lose the angry red face. I know they changed the happiness factor so supposedly your pet will not run away, but I just don’t trust Blizz any longer. I can stable him and take him out with no changes, but have decided to keep him out with me and use him as I can
It was really nice to see Horde and Alliance working together for a change — all joined together for a common cause. How can Blizzard dismiss this. Even though we are waring factions, every now and again it is nice to not get spit on by a Horde or have angry gestures waved at me, and I’m sure Horde feel the same about the Alliance.
This “”glitch” or “exploit” as many have called it, is Blizzard’s fault. This was discovered in the PTR and Blizz didn’t do anything to correct it then, so why should we be punished for something that clearly was a mistake THEY never corrected before going live. I just don’t get it! I’m very disappointed. Yes it’s just a pet, yes it’s just a game, but Blizz always back tracks and fracks it up more than it was before. I’m really contemplating quitting altogether. My money is being spent on a company that really does not care about the community and in my opinion is turning WoW into an expensive version of Runescape….dumbed down so much that as I read somewhere “pretty soon we’ll only have to log in to level and all of our epics will be sent to us in the mail”. Sad. A really good idea going down the toilet by the company that created it.
I am a Night Elf Beast Mastery hunter, and it took my almost 2 days to get my wolf. I had a Tauren Survival hunter who had just got her werewolf shot the sting at him. At first I thought she was trying to mess it up like all the other people there who wanted it for themselves, but she actually helped me get him. Unfortunately, on the Tuesday maintenance this week they turned all werewolves into worgs. It’s sad, but I opened a ticket, and for those of you who are worrying about being banned, the GM said we won’t be. I will miss my Lupin, but he shall be remembered in the Screenshots I took of him.
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