Pet … Worgen?! [Updated]

Spiritbinder with Worgen[Update] Because this topic is getting so much attention, I’ve re-organized the post slightly to highlight what we know and hopefully answer some questions before they need to be asked.

The facts as we know them:

  • When hunters tame the wolf/worgen Garwal, he normally reverts to wolf form. However, if you tame him at just the right time, he gets ’stuck’ in worgen form and you can have a worgen pet.
  • In order to see Garwal, you must be on the quest to kill him (called Alpha Worg). This quest is available to both Horde and Alliance but has a different chain of prerequistes — check Wowhead for details.
  • If you have already completed the Alpha Worg quest, I’m afraid that you are out of luck. At this point we do not know any way for hunters who have completed the quest to tame Garwal. And GMs are unable to reset individually quests for characters.
  • There is a guide below on how to hit that “just the right time”, but be aware that the specifics of percentages and times will depend on your level and how much damage you do, and you will probably have to make several trial runs to get everything to work out.
  • The worgen pet shows as a wolf in the character selection screen and the stables, even when he is still safely in worgen form in the game.
  • He will revert back to wolf form permanently if you enter an Arena with him. Entering an Arena with another pet while the worgen is in the stable is safe, however.
  • So far, every other action we know about — battlegrounds, raids, instances, leveling, auto-leveling on tame, dying, resurrecting, stabling, logging out, dismissing, mounting, dueling — is safe for your worgen and will NOT cause him to revert to wolf form.
  • At this point, Blizzard has not made any statement of their intentions about this pet. It’s likely that hunters are not intended to run around with a humanoid pet like a worgen, but whether Blizzard will make Garwal untameable, or revert all worgen pets to wolf form, or leave existing worgen alone, or even ban the lot of us — we just don’t know. Please remember that before you get too attached to your new worgen.

There is a ton of good info in the comments below, and our understanding of this situation is increasing as more hunters spend time with this pet. For that reason, you may want to start at the bottom of the comment thread and browse up it to get the latest news. There is also an RSS feed for the comments on this post available.

And now, back to the original post. [/Update]

My home internet went out many hours ago and it’s just come back — just in time for me to be inundated with e-mails and comments about the rumored tameable worgen that’s been seen on the Darkspear (US) realm.

We first heard about this yesterday in a comment from Ranshiin, but it’s been blowing up since then — with lots of readers here, on our forum, and elsewhere trying to figure out how this may have happened.

Tonight there was apparently a breakthrough. As you can see from this pic I borrowed from Spiritbinder’s post on the Arcania forums, we now have a more-or-less repeatable method to tame the worgen.

The worgen in question is Garwal, a quest-beast who transforms between worg and worgen forms while you fight him. Hunters learned early on that when you tame Garwal, he reverts to worg form and stays that way … unless, apparently, you manage to tame him just as he transforms — in which case he gets ’stuck’ in worgen form.

There are guides popping up with a better description of how to pull this off. The first I saw was courtesy of Icemaz:

  1. Get Wyvern Sting. It does about 19% damage by itself over 6 secs, and sleeps for 30.
  2. Find him.
  3. Hurt him until he is approx 67-69% health.
  4. Wyvern sting him.
  5. Wait till there is 14 secs left on Wyvern sting.
  6. At 14 secs left, cast tame beast.
  7. If done right, right as your tame ends, he will have just transformed.

From what I am reading, you may need to adjust the timing depending on how powerful your Wyvern Sting is.

[edit] Also, be aware that — as Lathun/Xethik tells us in the comments — entering an Arena will reset your worgen to his worlf form. [/edit]

Unfortunately, Garwal can only be tamed while you are on his quest. And unfortunately for me, I finished this quest long ago so I haven’t been able to try it out myself. (At least not with Mania. Garwal is level 71, so it is theoretically possible that I can get Kaet up there soon to do this chain and grab this handsome fellow.)

But … this also seems like the sort of thing that Blizzard may move quickly to fix — or fix retroactively. After all, we’re really not intended to tame humanoids. A ghost wolf is one thing … a werewolf who wear armor another. So until we hear official word, I’d be careful about getting too attached to your sexy new worgen.

But you have to admit … he really is a very handsome fellow!

(My sincere thanks to everyone who e-mailed and tried to keep my updated. I’m just sorry that my net was out for so many hours while all this was shaping up.)

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901 Comments

  1. mugungo - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:10 am UTC

    O_O i wish i hadnt finished this quest..always had a feeling there was some way to get around that transform thing….now the real question is, are there any other mobs in the game that can change from beast to humanoid?

  2. Xethik - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:31 am UTC

    Hey, Lathun/Xethik here from the forums. Anyhow, you must be careful! Bringing this guy into arena will reset him, sadly. It makes sense as arena gets rid of all the buffs and such, and the worg skin is created by a script-invisible buff, so it seems. Well, hopefully you don’t forget and bring this guy in!

  3. Ansawa - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:31 am UTC

    If I didn’t know this would get fixed faster than the ghost wolf, I’d be back on Ansawa doing it.

  4. Beastfury - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:41 am UTC

    I just got the pet myself and might I say he is AWESOME! And it’s a good thing I don’t arena.

  5. Dvatori - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:22 am UTC

    Another guild hunter and (with the help of our druid buddy) just got a pair of these beauties. He looks amazing! Has a jump animation and everything. It is a very difficult tame though, much tougher then the ghost wolf.
    Thank goodness I don’t pvp…
    Hopefully Blizz will hotfix but let us keep the ones we’ve already tamed, though it does seem unlikely.
    Good luck hunters!

  6. Dvatori - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:24 am UTC

    That’s supposed to say “Another guild hunter and I
    Doh.

  7. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:38 am UTC

    The arena thing sucks, I feel bad for anyone who accidentally reset theirs…hopefully the rest of us get to keep em though!

  8. Dvatori - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:38 am UTC

    Here’s some screenies of “Brock.”

    http://i42.tinypic.com/111niax.jpg
    http://i42.tinypic.com/2v9ce4o.jpg

  9. Drakkena - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:43 am UTC

    Now this makes me cry inwardly, like you I finished this quest long ago and my highest hunter is level 26 XD SO knowing by the time I get him to 71 to tame Garwal, well… it’d be long fixed :P

  10. Moltenrain - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:01 am UTC

    Apparently he also reverts when you level him as well.

  11. Icecrystal - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:01 am UTC

    Oh my god O.o
    Is there any way to do this without Wyvern Sting? Else I’ll have to respecc just for the tame xD

  12. Mania - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:09 am UTC

    Moltenrain: He reverts when you level him? Can you confirm that? I am confused because I thought the hunter on Darkspear got his to level 80.

  13. Moltenrain - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:13 am UTC

    I can’t confirm it as of yet as because he still refuses to bend to my will.

  14. Mania - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:14 am UTC

    Heh. Well, lemme know what you find out. And good luck.

  15. Moltenrain - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:20 am UTC

    Someone claims they took him into H Up and he didn’t revert during that time, so that’s promising. It might be just arenas and bgs that take away the worgen effect.

  16. Theron - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:22 am UTC

    It makes me want to cry. Your screwed if your an overachiever (aka Loremaster) I just had to finish all the quests. I just saw someone tame it, so wicked looking. Sadly, there’s nothing I can do short of a GM resetting that quest. Completely phased, untargetable and cannot be dragged out of the phase area. Looking up wowhead and wowwiki, it doesn’t look like there are any other worgen classified as wolves.

  17. elledain - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:26 am UTC

    i can confirm that if your worgen dies or join a bg/arena it wont chance back to hes old form (he stays worgen) but if you logout your worgen will show as a worg on the charather screen once you log in you will see your worgen again same goes with stabling it.

  18. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:27 am UTC

    The poster who said he reverted when he leveled *appeared* to be talking about the immediate, post-taming ding.

    The worgen in the original screenshot was first spotted at 77, I think, so regular leveling should be fine.

  19. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:29 am UTC

    @Elledain — can you confirm for arena or are you just guessing? There have been multiple reports of arena resetting him.

    If you have joined arena without resetting him, how did you queue up?

  20. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:34 am UTC

    Leveling it is fine. The *only* time you have to worry about the skin resetting (so far) is ARENA.
    Leveling, Polymorph, Death, Logout, Stabling, all of these show the worgen stays, well, worgen.

  21. Murl - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:45 am UTC

    Apparently its the frenzied worgen from UP can somebody beast lore him and check i believe its Normal not heroic

  22. Moltenrain - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:56 am UTC

    Finally got mine after much trial and error. I sure hope it stays, this is the most awesome pet I’ve gotten since I tamed my hydra.

  23. Safrienaer - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:03 am UTC

    Saf is a sad panda. :( Curse you, achievements! If it wasn’t for them, I wouldn’t have bothered with Howling Fjord’s quests at all. Missing the Ghost Wolf was bad enough (even though I didn’t even play back then), but this… The only thing that’s keeping me from getting an awesome pet is the fact that it happens to be only quest mob in the game that can’t be accessed in any way after completing the quest.

    Guess I’m not meant to get a special pet. <.<

  24. Agravaine - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:06 am UTC

    No, it’s Garwal. Both the frenzied worgen from normal and heroic UP have been confirmed to be untameable.

    I had completely skipped the northern Howling Fjord quests and went straight to Dragonblight to level as a hunter, but I did this quest on my lackadaisical Death Knight, so I knew what the fuss was about.

    Because I downed them very quickly as a level 80 hunter, I was starting to wonder if Bjomolf and Varg from earlier in the questline also transform when they’re at a certain health level… But there’s no evidence anywhere that they do. They seem to be regular, though larger, wolves.

  25. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:10 am UTC

    Oh man I so have to try this, and Amarai hasn’t done the quests and is the right level! And it won’t hurt really if I temp specc her to SV too. I MUST TRY.

    WORGEN FTW.

    The challenge will be doing this on Ryai as she’s 80 ..

  26. Nenva - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:11 am UTC

    im wondering, can this be done on ptr?

  27. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:13 am UTC

    Edit: Agravaine, if you read the quest text, those two ARE normal wolves, they’re the ‘blood brothers’ of the wolf/worg you get the quests from- who sends you to then kill Garwal.

  28. Nenva - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:14 am UTC

    at level 80, it does not transform for me until 46% :| eek. im trying now, atm on ptr.

  29. Virge(Haomarush EU) - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:17 am UTC

    Managed to get him on my first try on my significantly less geared (and leveled!) hunter since my main has already done the quest :P. Hes.so.damn.cool, thanks for the heads up!.

  30. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:21 am UTC

    Quick question that hit me now- could it be possible to substitute Wyvern Sting with a droods Hibernate? Since he is still -technically- a beast?

    Anyone who has a drood friend that could help them out? As all of mine aren’t online atm.

  31. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:25 am UTC

    The point of the Wyvern sting isn’t so much to put him to sleep, as it is to get the timing of the last few points of damage just right to force the transform as the tame finishes. If you check the second thread in the Hunter forum, it’s been found that if you tame him with a partner you can just have them nuke him down to below 50% as the tame finishes instead of using Wyvern sting.

  32. Trackk - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:28 am UTC

    2hrs of getting him to the point just before he turns, Wyvern sting him and taming at the 14 second mark and ending up with the wolf has finally paid off. I am…happy to say the least.
    The two best points about this guy is:
    1) Hes a Worgen!
    2) Hes armoured( we need more armoured pets, or better, to be able to get cosmetic armour for other pets).
    Anyway don’t give up hope, just follow the guide posted at the top and stick to it.

  33. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:38 am UTC

    I think my friends would probably accidently oneshot him.. but if I still can’t figure out the trick well it is worth a shot.

    I hope they allow us to keep them even after taming, it would be cool :D

  34. Nenva - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:40 am UTC

    does the 67-69% trick for all levels?

  35. Icecrystal - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:41 am UTC

    Yeah, it would sure be cool if we could get armor for our pets :)

    Armored Spirit Beast and Devilsaur xD

  36. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:41 am UTC

    Edit: Aw crap it seems I did the quest on Amarai ._.

  37. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:46 am UTC

    @Nenva: My hubby, at level 72, found that he had to get Garwal down to 53% or so–it does seem to vary by how powerful your wyvern sting is.

    69% worked for me at 80, but I was half-naked at the time, having removed all of my haste rating gear.

  38. Dwarffinator - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:58 am UTC

    just got it, sickest thing ever.

  39. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:00 am UTC

    I just had an idea. Can a person possibly do this with any beast that morphs into humanoid? For example; “Druid of the Fang” in the Wailing Caverns, also transforms into a snake once HP is below 50% (I think).

  40. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:01 am UTC

    Ultrafiction, the druids of the fang are still -humanoid- not beasts if I remember right.

  41. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:02 am UTC

    To be tamable the mob would have to be classified as a Beast, though–so we’d have to look for a beast that transforms into a humanoid, not the other way around. The WC druids wouldn’t work.

  42. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:02 am UTC

    Even when they transform? Or maybe it’s just a spell buff? I’ll keep looking.

  43. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:08 am UTC

    Ultrafiction, they’re Druids. If we can’t tame Druids as a class we can’t tame night elves even if a snake, and I wouldn’t really want to tame a night elf anyways.

    Tho it would be funny seeing a night elf with a night elf for a pet :p

    When they transform it’s no different than a drood transforming, they aren’t changing their ‘race’ from human to beast, they’re just turning into a beast.

  44. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:12 am UTC

    Ok Ok, I understand the mechanics of the class, I was asking a question to get people thinking.

  45. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:12 am UTC

    I was going to go look through the beasts list on wowhead to see if there were any transforming ones I remembered, but I got…distracted…

    http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23206

    I’m guessing they’re not tamable, though? :(

  46. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:13 am UTC

    0.o half my comment got eaten.

  47. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:15 am UTC

    Kate if you put a link or url or used a the pointed brackets usually used in html, as they are used as emotes too lol, then that’s why the post got ate.

    The blog is evil.

  48. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:16 am UTC

    Ok, one more question then… Why can’t a person who has done the quest already just party up with someone who hasn’t? Then when the fight starts you just tame?

  49. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:16 am UTC

    To clarify on that slightly odd comment (which has some toothmarks in it…) the first half of it was:

    “Well, I was going to look through the list of Beasts on wowhead to see if I could spot any transforming ones I might have forgotton, but I got distracted early on… /drool”

  50. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:17 am UTC

    Ultra, you need a buff from the quest giver to even see the mob–that’s why. It kinda sucks. :(

  51. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:21 am UTC

    Which is stupid, the phasing in WotLK is stupid. I got killed on my hunter in a dangerous location and asked a friend to come rez me.

    He couldn’t see my corpse.

    So I rezzed and imidiately started running.

    He still couldn’t see me.

    He COULD see all the mobs attacking me tho. Or well, the space I -should- have been.

  52. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:21 am UTC

    Ok fair enough, the only reason I ask is because once when I was helping a lowbie get her Shaman’s fire totem, I was up there with her and I couldn’t see the fire elemental guy that she was fighting, but I used a Volley and I was able to kill the elemental. So I figure that there is still a physical mob somewhere that possibly can be targeted by a party member once the target is in combat??

    P.S. I am just trying to brainstorm.

  53. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:27 am UTC

    …. hm … this is an interesting theory.

    There -are- invisable mobs in UC that if you use an AOE, with invisi seeing buff on or not, will attack you. It is hard to manage since you can’t see them.

    But the thing is I’m unsure if the Garwal phasing of the quest would allow it- is it like normal invisable mobs? Or is it like the Argent Turny phasing?

  54. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:28 am UTC

    Edit: Sad thing is tho this doesn’t help people who already completed the quest .. I would have killed for a worgen on my belf hunter :/

  55. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:29 am UTC

    I would *guess* that the invisible mobs are pre-phasing only and that the “new” phasing system is totally different.

    On the other hand though it sometimes seems like the Battle for Undercity phased stuff leaks through (woo blue tornadoes of random DOOM!) so I could be wrong here.

  56. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:39 am UTC

    Blah first tame was a fail. Tho granted I forgot to buy the new ranks for wyvern sting lol.

    And Kate that’s cause Thrall is to epic for puny phasing.

    To bad Garwal isn’t.

  57. Trackk - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:44 am UTC

    Its been about an hour or so after my 2 hr long Tamefest with this guy and i still can’t decide on a name. Any suggestions?

  58. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:49 am UTC

    Well, the hubby and I went with names from the Jungle Book…mine is Mowgli and his is Raksha. Maybe some other general wolfy name from literature?

    I -was- tempted to name mine Bignbad though.

  59. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:52 am UTC

    Aauuuurg this is annoying, tame beast went off to soon >> 1 second. 1 second to soon. The worst thing isn’t really the constant struggle it’s the waiting for Garwal to show up again bleh.

    Trackk, you could try Behindthename.com, it has alot of names and name themes and name generators.

  60. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:56 am UTC

    Well, I met with another 80 hunter (alloiance) and we tried everything together. Nothing works. I guess it’s not for me.

    Looking into other mobs now.

  61. Ultrafiction - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:12 am UTC

    Well, confirmed still works as of July 4, 2009 @ 6am server time. I didn’t do it, but watched someone do it.

  62. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:24 am UTC

    Ultrafiction, did the worgen reset to a wolf when tamed or stay a worgen?

    I managed to get the tame dong as he changed- but he reverted back to a wolf so :/ should I retry or what

    -sigh-

  63. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:25 am UTC

    tame ding* lol errors

  64. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:25 am UTC

    Ryai, why don’t you try the non-solo method? You might have a little better success.

  65. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:32 am UTC

    No I can do it, I’ve gotten him to shift at the right moment twice. I just wanted to know does he revert or not when initially tamed :/ cause just did it a second time, he shifted and was worgen for a second and got him .. then he was a worg again.

  66. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:37 am UTC

    I think someone–ack, I’m saying that an awful lot tonight–said they tamed him and then a second later he transformed. I don’t think anyone’s tamed him, had him switch to wolf, and then back to worgen though.

    It sounds like you might want to start your tame just a second earlier–ideally the tame goes off *just before* he transforms, not just after.

  67. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:38 am UTC

    bleh.

    Thanks for answering tho, now I know I need to time my tame at about 15~ seconds then.

  68. Wobin - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:40 am UTC

    I named mine ‘Oz’ =)

  69. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:42 am UTC

    Edit: I DID IT I DID IT I TAMED HIM :D

  70. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:46 am UTC

    WOOO YAY GRATZ RYAI!

    btw everytime I type out your name I feel like I misspelled it. <.<

  71. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:49 am UTC

    aha it’s ok. Half the time I type my name I typo it as Ryau or Ryak or Ryal. So no worries 8) and ty.

    I named mine Loki cause behindthename has the meaning as ‘to break’ [not just cause it's a 'wolf god' lol] and Garwal was a real trickster too. Being tameable all this time and not letting us know.

    I wish everyone else luck on taming him- and those who missed out you have my sympathies.

    Maybe Blizz will make Worgen tameable tho, there -are- permanent worgen, and it is hinted at that -those- don’t shift like human-cursed worgen do.

  72. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:54 am UTC

    I’ve always thought they’ll end up as a playable race, though–and in that case, no way Blizz is letting us keep tamable worgens.

    Actually, we might be able to get a hint as to their intentions from how they react to this…if the pets actually get taken away (something that, to the best of my knowledge, hasn’t happened before), then I’d take that as a pretty strong indication that they have something big in mine for the Worgen.

  73. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:55 am UTC

    oh man, did I just say “worgens”? k, I need sleep.

    /facepalm

  74. Gutler - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:56 am UTC

    Wooo got mine after about 5 tries, so glad i never turned the quest in (loved the costume to much). I named mine ShadowFang cause i felt it was a fitting name ^-^

  75. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:04 am UTC

    noez grammar.

    I just found out an interesting thing- like Loque, Garwal’s appear as cubes to people without Wrath.

    A rogue just asked me what Loki was then explained that it was a cube lol.

  76. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:06 am UTC

    LOL, that’s funny.

    I wonder if any of the other Wrath-only pets show up like that as well.

  77. Worry - Baelgun - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:09 am UTC

    i just tamed this and its as awesome as u would imagine. i have done all my normal hunter stuff so far and the skin has NOT changed back to regular wolf yet. i havnt tried arena tho but otherwise it looks like it will be like any other wolf. obviously when he is tamed it jumps to lvl 75.

  78. Trackk - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:39 am UTC

    If you have the iron boot flask which transforms you into a stormforges irondwarf for 10 minutes you appear as cubes to non wotlk users also.

  79. doommonkey - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:39 am UTC

    Well heres something i already did the quest, but we found his rez spot and stayed there to help someone tame him… now heres the cool thing and maybe ayll can figure something out. i saw him for a split second. i made a macro to target him after my buddy killed him we waited… now granted i didnt think of a timer sorry hehe but after doing that we waited and then i saw him and i had a macro on repeat i targeted for that split second but thats all i tried to tager and then cast hunters mark that didnt work so hopefully that helps yall out and bring hope to us that have already finished that quest. Your fellow hunter who wishs for uber cool pets Doommonkey

  80. doommonkey - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:43 am UTC

    btw if i remember corect he spawns near here
    27.1-8.1
    i wish ayll luck try to figure this out for all us hunters hahaha ill be backtoo try some other theorys but i dought theyll work hehe

  81. doommonkey - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:44 am UTC

    sorry i need sleep ahhaah good luck and ill check this fourm tomarrow hahaha or today hahaha

  82. Rottingham - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:40 am UTC

    Oh, I don’t remember if my lock finished that quest or not… I NEED THAT WORGEN!!! Oh well, I have a 71 rouge that probably hasn’t done it yet :P I’ll try and do it that way… Thank you for the post Mania :) I might need to go try it now :D

  83. Dweezill - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:04 am UTC

    I just went to ulfang for the quest, but he is Hostile to me. how do i get him to be “friendly” so i can get the quest?

  84. Yojimbo - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:10 am UTC

    don’t suppose anyone has a vid of them taming him do they? also if not then a list of what you need to happen in the order it’d happen (so something like get him to 51% or so (I’m only 72 on mi hunter ><) then wait for him to emote or do you go just before? then start taming him.. and what form he should be in at certain points in the taming) prob just not getting mi head round what Mania’s posted up top cos of too many things on mi mind lol, anyways any help would be appreciated :)

  85. Dweezill - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:17 am UTC

    OK, now my question is, is there a way for Alliance players to do this without the help of a horde? If not, are there any Horde players on Sargeras that can help? ;p;

  86. Dweezill - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:32 am UTC

    Figured everything out. nevermind. lol

  87. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:36 am UTC

    Yojimbo, the best thing would be is if you were level 80 :p I just spammed serpent sting like 4 times untill he was at 53-54%, disengaged then wyvern stung him.

    Since you’re level 72 I suggest trying to kite or melee it out, when he gets close to 55ish, wing clip/scatter shot, run to get some distance,. wyvern sting him and at 14 seconds, hit tame beast.

  88. Ryan - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:17 am UTC

    Got mine about an hour ago called him Garwal. Does anyone truely know if he dosn’t revert when you level him?

  89. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:27 am UTC

    Ryan:
    Comments have grown, but numerous people have said it. Leveling him is fine XD

  90. Saif - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:42 am UTC

    I think Blizzard should just implement Worgens that are tamable. I have wanted that pet since Day 1.

  91. Gibz - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:06 pm UTC

    Just got mine. Took a while to get it to hit just right, but the reward is worth it :) Besides, it’s a whole lot easier than Loque, and much more usable, heh.

  92. wp - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:13 pm UTC

    is it possible at all to do this solo without wyvern sting? >_< i am hoping not to respec…

  93. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:24 pm UTC

    wp:
    To my knowledge, no. You need to have some sort of DoT on him during tame to make Garwal cross the 50% threshold to transform. Respeccing (unless you’re already SV/MM) is about the only humanly way possible.

    Keep in mind there is NO POSITIVE SPOT to start wyvern sting. Wyvern Sting is NOT universal. From the hours of testing I did with other players yesterday I can tell you 67-69% HP left on Garwal is NOT for everyone. Personally, I had to be at 51%, other players 55% and some 62%. If 67-69% is NOT low enough for you, continue to lower the HP until you find “the sweet spot”.

    Also, I HIGHLY reccomend getting the X-perl addon. This addon changes your target frames and displays HP as a % and not a number; this was insanely useful.

  94. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:39 pm UTC

    how do i start to talk to greatmother ankha cause she has no quests for me. is there a prequest to talk to her?

  95. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:42 pm UTC

    Or you can just change the interface options on basic wow, it’s what I did before fighing Garwal since it seems so specific, and yeah for me the ’sweet spot’ was ‘55′ish.

    And Rikaku is right there is NO way to solo this unless you have a dot on him AND tbh the ONLY reliable dot imo, is Wyvern Sting, it cc’s Garwal, and causes damage once he wakes up. And if you’re lv 75+ it shouldn’t be that easy to survive the bashings. If not just grab someone who can heal you.

    The tricky part was the tame at the right spot tbh, not getting him to the sweet spot for Wyvern sting.

    Oh- Scare Beast >also< works on him, I did that on every attempt, SS/Scare beast/SS wait, SS/SB/SS/WS/Tame beast

  96. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:46 pm UTC

    @Riojin:
    You must complete the question “The Conqueror of Skorn!”, which is given by the Winterhoof Brave that gave you the three quests related to Skorn and the vrykul. After turning that quest in, you will be able to access the Greatmother’s quests, which begin this chain.

    Also, just a note for those non-Survival hunters (or those who don’t have Wyvern Sting, like me), I was able to tame him much the same way just using Serpent Sting. It was a harder process, but here’s how I did it:

    1. Use Aspect of the Viper. It’ll help with not doing so much damage overall.
    2. Unequip a weapon and fight him bare-handed.
    3. Around 65%, roughly, hit a Serpent Sting. Stop fighting and watch for his health to wittle away. If the Sting clears, hit it again. Shouldn’t take more than 2 Stings, tops.
    4. At 55%, hit tame. Serpent Sting should still be on him (hopefully if done right) and around 51%, you should be done with tame just as he transforms.

    Again, it’s not going to work exactly like it did for me, naturally. Do whatever works for you. I just didn’t want to go back to a trainer, spent 20g to respec just for Wyvern Sting. So I improvised and am now the proud owner of a worgen!

  97. Arjuna - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:48 pm UTC

    Starting to get allot of denial kills on my server from alliance, shame cause most are great when it comes to rare tames but these three just show off thier new pets and deny the rest of us. Hope they get bored and leave the rest of us alone :(

  98. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:51 pm UTC

    Arjuna, I’m sure you can report them as griefers, can you not?

    And Yojimbo, tbh I would advise AotM over AotV as AotM helps you dodge anjd if talented, lowers damage, and it doesn’t boost your damage anyways. :p

  99. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 12:55 pm UTC

    Ryai: Whatever works for you. It’s just what I happened to be using at the time. It worked for me, and I know that it may or may not work for others. I’m just excited about getting something out of the ordinary like this, since I just missed the Ghost Hydra, et al by literally an hour.

  100. yseraboy - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:05 pm UTC

    Was just reading about this on MMO Champion, then saw a Hunter with one in Dalaran – last night.

    I’ve already done the quest, so I have no chance to get one, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that all of you lucky enough to get one can keep it.

  101. Dweezill - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:36 pm UTC

    yay! Finaly did it Thanks goodness i don;t have to try that again. Almost 3 hours is enough.

  102. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:37 pm UTC

    Has anyone gotten a GM to respond and reset their quest for this tame possibility?

  103. Dweezill - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:38 pm UTC

    Actuallym, it was a lot easier for me wheni turned the percentages off. When his hp gets to 6956 (50%), he will transform. When you have him within 800 or so hp of that number, then do what was said above. Don’t know if that help anybody or not. It made it a lot easier for me. Got it on my second try

  104. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:38 pm UTC

    Satyrmeister:
    Someone petitioned last night and the GM said they cannot reset quests for individual players. =(

  105. Monanoke - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:40 pm UTC

    Just thought I’d make a list of all the things you should and shouldn’t do with your worgen pet to keep its look.

    As many people have stated DONT ARENA. He will revert to a white wolf and not change to worgen again.

    You can safely:

    Logout, Portal, Boat, BG, Instance, Level, stable and dismiss your pet. If you are respeccing, and he disappears like all pets do when you unlearn, he will return in worgen form :)

    My question is, has anyone tried to duel with one yet?

  106. Worry - Baelgun - July 4th, 2009 @ 1:59 pm UTC

    i have tamed this worgen, i got it to lvl 78 by grinding and got bored, did H VH, so now hes lvl 79. ill ding him tomorrow i can barely keep my eyes open.

    interestingly enuf when u see this worgen in the stable screen it will show him in regular wolf form but when u take him out .. BAM! worgen!

    also whats weird is i get more ppl asking “where did u get that pet?” when im using my slime rather than this for some reason. guess its the bright green and the fact his name is booger

  107. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:00 pm UTC

    Most people tend to think your pet has the disease from the Worgens which turns you into one. It’s after they notice there’s no buff/debuff that they ask ‘wait a minute, wth?” lmao

    Just took mine to H-AN and it took a few minutes before the priest said “Am I tripping out, or is that a Worgen??”

  108. Ivoire - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:14 pm UTC

    Just tamed mine a bit ago :D I’m very interested in seeing what Blizzard does to remedy this though. I was in Dalaran a minute ago and saw three other hunters prancing around with theirs, and witnessed another one taming him before I did. Since Mania made this public to a good deal of hunters, I am very much hoping he will stay as a Worgen and simply be made untameable rather than reverting back to a white wolf. *crosses fingers*

    And it’s nice to have my server actually discover something cool for the hunter world :D

  109. Xethik - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:20 pm UTC

    Speaking of which Ivoire, I think we all owe an apology to Witted of Darkspear. I mean, he had something original and cool, and now it has become a public race to get this guy. It was something that a couple people found out and were able to keep secret for a while, but with it public this guy isn’t running around have a 1 in a 11 million situation. Cheers and apologies to Witted.

  110. Saranette - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:28 pm UTC

    well you have it sitting out in ironforge or whatever, it’s gonna attract attention.

    I’ve been trying to discreetly use him on dailies today. He rocks.

  111. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:30 pm UTC

    Xethik:
    Ironically, Witted was doomed to this fate. From what I heard, he was rather rude to some inquisitive players, which prompted them to work even harder at finding this pet. It was bound to become known.

  112. Xethik - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:33 pm UTC

    Yeah, I know. I spoke to him, and he wasn’t so much rude but was really just annoyed. I talked to him several times on the subject, he just said he wanted to keep something that others didn’t have. He was probably getting so many whispers while trying to do a Naxx 25 raid or something like that, I can understand some rude behavior.

    Anyways, hope you and your worgens have a Happy Fourth of July for you American players!

  113. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:36 pm UTC

    lol Just got this guy tamed now time to gloat ty all for the help

  114. Akulbaka - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:37 pm UTC

    Just got him. Its really tricky. Just keep at it, try to get him to about 55 – 57% and then sting him and tame at 14.

    Note: If he does the change emote before you sting him, or hes already changed by the time you try to tame, it doesn’t seem like it will work.

  115. Asura - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:41 pm UTC

    :( I already did that quest so I guess I wont be able to get him. I know this wasnt intended by blizz and by how fast the rumors are spreading and everyone who can tame him are taming him, be prepared that blazz is gonna fix it, so get him as fast as you can! :P

  116. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 2:43 pm UTC

    BTW Bestial wrathed warewolf is the coolest thing in wow imo

  117. Congafury - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:02 pm UTC

    Aww i’m a very sad hunter.. maybe it’s time to reroll when you get stressed about pixels..
    on the other hand i’m happy we, hunters, managed to find a way to lay hands on such a beauty!=D cheers to all and pray blizzard gods not to remove it!

  118. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:11 pm UTC

    I don’t see a reason they’d outright remove it. If that’s the case, I’m sure there’d be alot of complaints saying that if the worgen is removed, so should all those other non-tamables: Gezzak, Ghost Wolves, Hydralisks, Crocoslimes, etc etc.

    I think they’ll just chock it up to an “Oops” kind of like the Hydralisk/Crocoslime deal and let those who have it keep it. If anything, they might make Garwal untamable altogether to prevent this from recurring.

  119. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:24 pm UTC

    I think we r gonna be able to keep it.

  120. Ivoire - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:29 pm UTC

    That’s what I’m hoping, Yojimbow. My only concern is the fact that a Worgen is actually a humanoid. But then again, Boogers my slime isn’t exactly a beast either…

    Hopefully the popularity will force Blizz to allow players to keep it. If it were still one hunter that had it, I know they would just change it to the wolf.

  121. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:30 pm UTC

    @Monanoke:
    To answer your question from earlier, I recently dueled with him, and he’s perfectly normal. Continues to act like a wolf and still looks like a worgen. Nothing different at all. It’s great to see all the people going “What is that thing?” or “Where did you get that?” or “Since when can Hunters tame worgen?”

  122. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:31 pm UTC

    Yeah, Ivoire, I don’t see Blizz going though all the imminent “WTF?”s if they were to change them to wolves. I don’t think they want to deal with all that and are just going to keep them as they are. Here, a bonus to you.

    At least, that’s what I’m hoping… I didn’t waste an hour doing that damn quest chain just to lose a pet that’s already made me more happy than the first time I tamed Gondria…

  123. Hiyan - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:35 pm UTC

    Like someone else said…

    Are there any creatures that are similar in the respect you can tame them when they shape shift, or is it only Garwal?

  124. Featherkitty - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:36 pm UTC

    Wooooooooowwwwwww

  125. Ge - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:45 pm UTC

    Having played a DK also, I would like a ghoul pet, just food for thought

  126. Kaïna - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:48 pm UTC

    How sad it is…I’ve completed this quest on my Hunter when she was lvl 73…or something like that! Now, I can’t see him anymore! D:

    But I do think Blizz will fix that “bug”…

  127. Nachtwulf - July 4th, 2009 @ 3:58 pm UTC

    i totally spent an hour tooling around Dalaran last night basking in the glow of ‘OMFG WAR U GET DAT’.

    I’m DEAD SURE Bliz will hotfix this asap, especially since it’s all over the internets now. The big question is whether they’ll retroactively reset Garwal to being a worg again. But hey, I look at it this way. I can play with it a ton now, and if they DO fix it, I’ll go back to my original pet (Bjomolf) and really not have lost much.

    Mind you… I DO hope they let us keep him. Because seriously. He is aaaaaawesome. (And I don’t arena, so woot, safe there.)

  128. Saras - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:09 pm UTC

    okay, so can anyone quickly confirm if you’ve already done the quest but have an alt that can still do it, would you be able to tame him? : / i missed out on the slime, hydra, ghost wolf, and EVERYTHING so far ._. a worgen would make up for those any day in my book =)

  129. Mania - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:13 pm UTC

    I don’t know what Blizzard is going to do. Probably nothing for several days, at least, since it’s a holiday weekend in the US.

    However, from my point of view it is safest to assume that Blizzard will retroactively fix this bug and revert all worgen to worgs. If you assume that, you won’t be nearly as angry and disappointed if it happens. :>

    Having said that, I am probably going to try to tame this beastie today with Kaet, even though I suspect it will be a lot of work for nothing. On the one hand, there’s a chance that it won’t be. And on the other .. I like to feel like I’m participating in important hunter community memes. *grin*

  130. Krsve - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:18 pm UTC

    Hotfixed? I have had him on transform % and the same sec he transformed I got him but he transformed back

  131. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:21 pm UTC

    Honestly: I have a feeling they’re just going to make it untameable altogether. It’d be alot of work (for a hunter pet) just to dig through all the coding and make this worgen revert back to a worg. Look at Gezz, instead of fixing her problem, they made her untameable. This seems to be how Blizzard fixes things now. Tuesday, I’ll expect an untameable hotfix, but I doubt the worgen will be removed. They didn’t remove ghost wolves, crocs, oozes, hydras or gezz, they shouldn’t remove this either.

    But thats just my opinion XD

  132. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:22 pm UTC

    Honestly, *
    I cant type XD

  133. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:24 pm UTC

    Also if you look at the coding (via view source on armory page) You’ll see this worgen shows up as “Type=Garwal” and if you tame Garwal normally as a worg, he still shows up as “Type=Garwal”. This is what I mean by, it’ll take alot more work to retroactively go through and fix people’s worgens. As apparently the game and server read the skin correctly as Garwal and nothing more.

  134. Tori - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:26 pm UTC

    I’m not sure why this hasn’t brought up yet, maybe there’s something eluding me from the whole process of the tame, but Question:

    Why can’t you just wait until he transforms into a Worgen, freeze trap him in that form, and then proceed to tame?

  135. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:31 pm UTC

    Tori:
    He’s immune to trap. Plus the point is to get it the millisecond the server realizes he’s transforming. Otheriwse he just worgs out.

  136. Tori - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:35 pm UTC

    Ah I see, thanks for the clarification.

    I’m saddened that I already completed that quest and can’t try this out. :(

  137. Xethik - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:42 pm UTC

    Also, if you tame him as a worgen, even with his annoying knockbacks it is VERY possible (I did it level 71), he just reverts to a wolf.

  138. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:47 pm UTC

    Yah I thought I could just let him transform and tame him and have him without all the Wyvern Stings/Serpent Stings, et al… but, I was disappointed to have a worg and not a worgen.

    But, as I said before and continue to say, I’m excited to have it… and if they do hotfix it, at least I know I participated and succeeded in taming one of those rarebies… Unlike the hydra/slime etc etc.

  139. Modran - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:50 pm UTC

    I’m worried about getting banned or something for doing this :<

  140. Takamuri - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:51 pm UTC

    http://deusvox.net/worgen.jpg

    Oh Yeah :)

  141. CobraLily - July 4th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm UTC

    If you have the space in the stable Tame two in case something happens to one that makes it change back to a wolf. Tamed mine was the only one out there, took like 6 tries to dial it in at level 80. Must say that’s the coolest pet by far.

  142. Ferrusmanus - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:00 pm UTC

    I can confirm that this still works, got my Worgen about twenty minutes ago after about fifteen tries x)

    As far as advice, all I can say is get him somewhere around 7500 HP, Wyvern Sting (I used the maximum rank I knew at level 78), and start the tame just about when it hits 14 seconds left. I had to hit the button a fraction of a second BEFORE it ticked down to 14, but that could have just been the lag factor. If it doesn’t work for you, try starting a little sooner or a little later so that the tame finishes JUST as he transforms.

  143. Takamuri - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:06 pm UTC

    The goal is to get him to hit 50% (his threshold where he says a quote then transforms) the second your tame beast completes.

  144. Danavas - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:06 pm UTC

    Tamed mine about 30 minutes ago (approx 21:30 GMT/BST).

    Took 3 attempts, for me I had found 53% the sweetspot, having failed at 51% and 56%.

    Very cool indeed. Fingers crossed we get to keep em :)

    http://hdimage.org/images/vda2221ws3iaj3p5hy.jpg

  145. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:17 pm UTC

    I went ahead and uploaded my screenshot so that everyone can see it’s awesomesauceness.

    Yojimbow & Cataclysm

  146. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:18 pm UTC

    Yojimbow:
    I really really like that name =D

  147. Joe - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:18 pm UTC

    just got mine ~4:30 EST (posting later lol) just letting everyone know it still works, but it took me about 15 tames to get it to work, just keep at it!

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Joenessmaxwell/Roster/b31f0b79.jpg RAWR

  148. Danavas - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:22 pm UTC

    Yojimbow:
    Wooooo there I was sat in IF trying to think of a name. Perfect name! :) Job done! :)

  149. Aldiron - Blackhand - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:23 pm UTC

    Got him today — pretty cool. Yes, the timing is very very exact. Mostly luck. Expect to try a few times.

  150. Agravaine - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:23 pm UTC

    Rikaku, Gezz did have problems that they fixed… in addition to making her non-tameable.

    Before she was fixed, the tamed Gezzarak could not be raid/party healed, nor misdirected to. In PvP, she would not attack the opposite faction, except for a certain trick. But that’s all water under the bridge.

  151. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:29 pm UTC

    Rikaku: Thanks! I was sitting there this morning after reading this about what to name it, and Maelstrom and Cataclysm popped into my head. I liked Cataclysm better than Maelstrom and chose that.

    Joe: Haha… your welcome, fellow Hunter.

  152. Azure - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:35 pm UTC

    Woot! Dwarven hunter here who just tamed herself a Worgen! He is just too beautiful to describe. Despite being a worgen, his skin tone actually matches with my other pets snow themes as well, big bonus. My brother was annoyed with me when I wouldn’t turn in the worgen quest when we first hit Wrath. I told him becasue it allowed me to look like a wolf, and I am a huge fan of wolves in general (favorite/main pet will always be my Prowler from waaaay back in the beginning, what a roller coaster ride that has been, and still is). He said it was the biggest waste of space and useless. Ha! Thank guys for all the tips, took me 3 shots at it. Special thank you to the Tauren cutie who lent his helping hand during my tamings. It’s a wonder what things will bring factions together. Either that or hunters really are a breed apart from the rest of WoW o.O

  153. Duracell - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:41 pm UTC

    I just tamed him @ around 4pm CST.
    A guildy told me about this glitch and he said that his hunter friend had just got one.

    I dont have wyvern sting but there is an alternative method;

    What I did was take my guildy with me, find Garwal. Then melee him down to around 54-52% and just started taming. He watched my cast bar and layed a well timed Aimed Shot right as my tame finished. About .05 seconds. Took us about 3-4 tries but he was mine :D

    Sadly my guildy had already done the quest so he has to miss out on this rare oppurtunity.

  154. Shark - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:46 pm UTC

    If your guildy could shoot him with Aimed, does this mean he could have someone else get the quest and tame him then?

  155. Duracell - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:47 pm UTC

    Actually, nvm Haha. It was his hunter friend that shot him. I confused my self. My guildy was there with us.

  156. killing - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:53 pm UTC

    You need to take him down to 52% then sleep and use tame at 14 sec becuers he Transform at 49%

  157. Graphics4Life - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:55 pm UTC

    Just found a recent Blue Post on the matter:

    We have plans in the upcoming major content patch to remove the ability for players to tame Garwal in his worgan form. We will not however, revert Garwal to his innate form for those who have already gone through the trouble to tame the creature/ humanoid.

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17222934377&postId=182706873498&sid=1#40

  158. Gelannerai - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:56 pm UTC

    Yeah, that doesn’t work, tried it with a guildy. I stood there watching him fight nothing. It was like the Blizzard version of Fight Club.

  159. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:57 pm UTC

    @Shark:
    Generally speaking, as long as one person in your party is on that quest, you will see Garwal. I was helping a Blood Elf Hunter get her own worgen and she had an Undead Warlock with her, who had done the quest awhile ago… but he was able to see and attack it as well.

    So it would seem possible for me to help a guildy get it, even though I’ve now done the quest and turned it in.

  160. Lupowop - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:57 pm UTC

    Just got mine on Argent Dawn…woot…follow the directions from Mania to the “t” took about 5 tries

  161. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:59 pm UTC

    @Gelannerai:
    Really? Then maybe he didn’t do the quest. I do know he was helping her with it, as was I. I had assumed he’d done it already. What do I know. xD

  162. bigredkitty - July 4th, 2009 @ 5:59 pm UTC

    We have plans in the upcoming major content patch to remove the ability for players to tame Garwal in his worgan form. We will not however, revert Garwal to his innate form for players who have already gone through the trouble to tame the creature/ humanoid. In addition, we will be fixing the bug that currently demorphs Garwal when he enters arena.

  163. Dartanius - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:02 pm UTC

    Hot Fixed less than 10mins ago :( Sry ya’ll and you dont get to keep it if you had it before

  164. Hikohodemi - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:05 pm UTC

    I helped a fellow hunter get their’s and they halped me get mine. We shot each other’s w/ ES at 2 secs left on tame and it worked. named mine Urkel

  165. Congafury - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:11 pm UTC

    Dartanius – what you mean hotfixed???

  166. Kate - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:13 pm UTC

    @ troll 5:59 — fail, now go away.

  167. Gorx4 - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:16 pm UTC

    I found a much easier way to do this with 2 people.

    Wyvern Sting him at your regularly scheduled time, and tame him at 14 seconds left of sleep.

    BUT**

    Instead of relying on your wyvern sting’s damage, just have somebody else shoot him when you have between 2 and 1 second left in your tame. He will start switching as soon as he drops lower than 50% AND you will finish your tame and he will switch into worgen as he is coming to your side and shrinking. I did it twice in a row, successfully, this way after failing for a long time the listed way here.

  168. Duracell - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:17 pm UTC

    LMFAO! Looks like someone did the quest and wants to QQ.

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031062709&sid=1

  169. Clown - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:18 pm UTC

    ok so im a lvl 80 hunter and i tamed him

    i got him to 58%
    wyvern stinged
    waited till 13 seconds left on wyvern sting
    then tamed
    and i got him

    so far i tested, killing him,dissmising him, ressing him, mounting, changing specs all came back positive i just need to confirm polymorph and logout and stable
    cus if i lose him i might not want to log off

  170. Sarissan - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:22 pm UTC

    Got mine thanks to some lovely hordes on Rexxar that I chilled with for a bit, Soyah thanks for hanging out with a night elf for all that time and taking turns trying to learn the trick with me. Pi you’re a rockin troll thanks for puttin in that last shot that got me my lovely worgen. I named him PiSoyah and I’ll always remember the both of you :)

  171. Degnar - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:26 pm UTC

    I got him after 2 hours of trying to time it perfectly. I was afraid that it isn’t available to get any more but I was wrong :)

    Worgen skin doesn’t change after:
    -Dismiss
    -Stable
    -Talent change
    -Log off

  172. Clown - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:27 pm UTC

    tested log out, on log in screen it shows him as a white wolf and same with stable screen but he is still a werewolf in game, so i just have to test polymorph and switching stable pets and completely exiting the game. but if completely exiting and polymorphing does nothing i may just not ever change my pet

  173. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:27 pm UTC

    @BRK:
    xD That sounds exactly like something Blizz would say… especially in regards to something like this.

  174. Degnar - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:35 pm UTC

    Anyone can confirm that leveling up doesn’t break his awesome skin?

  175. Gloren - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:36 pm UTC

    Will entering a Battleground e.g. : Arathi Basin, Warsong Gultch, Alterec Valley, Eye of the Storm and Strand of the Ancients reset the worg back into a wolf?

  176. Mania - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:37 pm UTC

    Unfortunately the blue post has apparently been deleted. As soon as I see something more certain I’ll add it to the original post.

    Thank you, everyone, for keeping us all updated on this hot topic. :>

  177. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:39 pm UTC

    Agravaine :
    I think you mis-read me ;)
    Yes, I know she had problems. What I meant was is that Blizzard didn’t just “fix” the problem and leave her tameable. Instead they just flipped the untameable switch and then fixed her. I meant for it to be an example of how Blizzard generally fixes things by making them untameable, but doesnt really revert any process.

    Graphics4Life:
    Where did you get that? That thread is deleted. Was there really a blue post saying that??

  178. Sarissan - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:46 pm UTC

    Also added for helpful taming, this is how myself and like 20 hunters farmed him together :P

    1. Find Garwal
    2. Agro Garwal and take him to just above 50%
    3. Begin tame when he reaches above 50% threshold
    4. Have another hunter put a few rounds In him at the final second of the tame

    Again thanks to all the cool guys and gals on Rexxar :)

  179. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:53 pm UTC

    What concerns me is they made the post, then deleted the whole thread. If you look back the ghost wolf is still in archives where they said it’d remain tameable. But Blizzard should already know, the damage is done. Posters have already seen and found that post and pasted it. Their words are now known.

    Here’s hoping that come tuesday after maitenance we all have our worgen still. I’ll be mad if he’s gone D=

  180. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 6:54 pm UTC

    According to rumors it’s been hotfixed already, can anyone confirm or deny?

  181. Sarissan - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:02 pm UTC

    not hotfixed as of yet im still here helping hunters get it

  182. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:04 pm UTC

    I’ll bitch up a storm, no questions about it. This is similar to the Crocoslime & Hydralisk from Sholazar. Exactly the same. It obviously wasn’t intended for you to be able to tame Garwal as a worgen, much like it wasn’t intended to tame the Slime and Hydra as they were, believing to be crocolisks.

    And Duracell, that QQ on the WoW forums made me lol…

  183. archerNE - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:06 pm UTC

    I’m going to complain and make and bump threads 3 times a day on multiple sections of the WoW forums until this gets fixed.

    If I completed the quest chain and can’t get my own worgan, then other hunters shouldn’t either.

    Only fair.

  184. Sarissan - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:06 pm UTC

    I figure it’s fair we get to keep these, that’s why I’m helping hunter’s get them :) I missed out on the Spirit Wolf, but I got the Ooze :) his name is Achu, because Achoo would be too obvious. Also how do I get an Avatar for posting here?

  185. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:12 pm UTC

    @Sarissan:
    I believe the site is http://en.gravitar.com Just sign up and you can upload a custom image to be your avatar and all that other goodness. You can even crop it.

  186. Congafury - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:14 pm UTC

    Rikaku – helped my mate get one just 3 minutes ago! He called it just like me – Conga
    Now we are an Arugal fan couple – he’s with the Worgen and i’m with the ghost wolf=D

  187. Nitrosity - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:17 pm UTC

    After tryin to tame this lil guy for over 2 hours, i keep having issues trying to get him to stay in worgen after being tamed. I’ve had tame end in the same second he’s transformed 3 times now with no luck =/. I was wondering if anyone has any extra tips or can whisper me in game on Arathor alliance side and assist me in anyway they can. If not, please ignore this unlucky hunter’s post :)

  188. Duracell - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:19 pm UTC

    @ archerNE

    Srsly? Haha. Cmon, you missed out, not our fault. Shouldve not leveled in Fjord.

    Theres plenty of pets Ive missed out on cos I was naive to the fact they were tamable before a hot fix, I mean back in the day I was excited to get a Humar (which I still have and love! :P)

    My guild-mate hunters have already done the quest, and they aren’t QQing. Hes just trying to find other animals that transform now.

  189. kaempferx - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:22 pm UTC

    Kelthuzad server first, woot! kaempferx dwarf hunter!

  190. Clown - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:23 pm UTC

    actually kaempferx i was KT server first if u look at my post over an hour and a half ago, horde side me and Doss got ours he got his a few mins after me

  191. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:25 pm UTC

    I was Bronzebeard’s first! I hope. *Aims Nerubian Conqueror at anyone who objects*

  192. Clown - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:28 pm UTC

    Cløwn – Blood elf hunter, in case u wana look me up kamer so i can kill you : )

  193. CobraLily - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:28 pm UTC

    I tamed mine on US Bonechewer Alliance. Anyone else on Bonechewer?

  194. Leozero - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:30 pm UTC

    so is it posible to get it after quest completed? i had someone on party with quest and i couldnt see it =(

  195. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:30 pm UTC

    Also
    Unless you’re BRK, do NOT use his avatar. That is not cool.

  196. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:32 pm UTC

    @Rikaku:
    Agreed. Totally.

    @Leozero:
    If you’ve completed the quest, you cannot tame it. If you’re partied with someone who is on that quest and you’ve completed it, it will apparently appear as if they’re fighting nothing. I have not seen this myself to confirm, but it’s the overall response I’m getting.

  197. Sarissan - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:32 pm UTC

    So I’m pretty sure there are now more of these on Rexxar than any other pet, lol oh well grats to everyone on the worgen :)

  198. Hunt This » Worgen Pet - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:33 pm UTC

    [...] might not be able to keep him. But man its pretty sweet for now. I first read about this over on Mania’s Arcania. I did have to adjust a little bit to make it work for me. The way I did it is as follows: 1 Find [...]

  199. CobraLily - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:39 pm UTC

    LOL words out on my server, allies and hordes all over the area, earlier it was just me and no one in site

  200. Shark - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:39 pm UTC

    I can confirm that being in a group with someone on the quest does not allow you to see it as well if you’ve already completed it. Very disappointed, but congrats to the lucky ones.

  201. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:44 pm UTC

    @Grizzled: I found 55% was far too late for me. I’m a level 71 BM hunter, and he transformed with more than 50% still left on my tame beast. Going to try more like 70% and report back. I doubt it’s been hotfixed this quickly.

  202. Wolfhammer - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:45 pm UTC

    does he always spawn as lvl 71? wowhead says between 66-71.

  203. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:48 pm UTC

    @Snuzzled:
    I am an 80 MM Hunter, so that may be the difference, I’m not sure. Luck of the absolute draw it could be. I used Serpent Sting and barely did anything else. Here and there a punch. Tamed around 55% with SS still on, just as it had 1 second left, he emoted, transformed, ding for tame, and he was a worgen.

  204. Ada - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:51 pm UTC

    I just got mine (love my scuzzlebutt) and at 74 I got the nice tact of shooting him to 60%, equipping one dagger, put viper on and melee him to 51%, then wyvern sting him. At 18 seconds left I started my tame, and stood at max range (20sec cast).
    Sting ticked once, he got below 50% and transformed and I tamed him in that second :)

    It’s well worth it! :D

  205. Vhane - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:51 pm UTC

    I did this quest already…but was hoping that if I get someone else to be on the quest and agro him, I’d be able to tame him.

    One problem… I couldn’t see it. So mission impossible. /cry

  206. Tohopka - July 4th, 2009 @ 7:59 pm UTC

    Just got it on Firetree 7:55pm EST so its still there

  207. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:01 pm UTC

    @Grizzled, that may be it. I figured your serpent sting was more powerful than mine, so I laid an immo trap too. A couple times some jerks trained mobs onto me which made me die/almost die so I still don’t have it. I’m going to keep trying, this is just too cool not to.

  208. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:07 pm UTC

    Conversation I had with a GM about the worgen, quest reset, phasing, etc. Sheds some light from Bliz…

    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen1.jpg
    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen2.jpg
    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen3.jpg
    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen4.jpg

    So this guy says its an exploit, but it seems that it will be grandfathered in. Kiting — maybe, but also an exploit. And no can’t re”quest” it.

  209. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:08 pm UTC

    Ok had a discuss with a GM.

    Here ya go…

    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen1.jpg
    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen2.jpg

  210. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:09 pm UTC

    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen3.jpg

  211. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:09 pm UTC

    http://www.yalcon.net/worgen/worgen4.jpg

  212. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:10 pm UTC

    These previous posts are in game pics of a conversation I had with a GM. Hope they help with Bliz’s position.

  213. Nox - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:17 pm UTC

    Has it been hotfixed or not.

  214. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:19 pm UTC

    As of 7:55pm, we have reports that is has NOT. However, it’s been 25 minutes since then ^^; Still trying over here!

  215. Liara - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:22 pm UTC

    I just mine, so it hasn;t been fixed yet.

  216. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:25 pm UTC

    The only thing I don’t like is how you said “it’s a game exploit”. Exploit always sounds negative and ban-worthy. It’s using game mechanics to reach an alternative means yes; but it’s not an exploit in the sense that we’re not doing something wrong. In essence, we’re just taming a wolf with a weird skin. Nothing more. We’re NOT taming a humanoid, Garwal is listed as BEAST. Keep that in mind =)

    Also, take GM’s words with a grain of salt. They seem to vary depending on which GM you talk to @_@

  217. Nozz - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:26 pm UTC

    I just got my Worgen! It’s a wonderful sight. In my case, I had him down to 65% health and cast tame beast at wyvern sting’s 10 second mark. Hope that helps!

  218. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:27 pm UTC

    cut off before I was done:
    Thats why the GM seems to refer to it as an “exploit” when I don’t think it is. We didn’t exploit the ghost wolf, hydra, ooze or any other pet; so why this is “exploit” considering is beyond me.

  219. Rikaku - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:28 pm UTC

    Also:
    when I say ‘you” its general, so i don’t mean specifically YOU satyr. Just wanted to clear that up =)

  220. Mania - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:28 pm UTC

    My apologies, Satyrmeister — I accidentally deleted your second link because I thought it was a duplicate. (I get a lot of duplicates when the first version is stuck in moderation.) So I cheated and edited your second link into the comment with the first link.

    And *nods at Rikaku*. I wouldn’t expect to get an authoritative answer until the live team devs get back to work next week. GMs are a powerful and useful force, but it will probably be someone like Ghostcrawler making the final decision.

  221. CobraLily - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:29 pm UTC

    That’s one GM opinion, it what his bosses think that will matter.

  222. Satyrmeister - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:30 pm UTC

    Yeah, I didn’t say it was an exploit. Those were the words of the GM, not I.

    I defended our stance.

  223. Sarissan - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:36 pm UTC

    From what I understood from that GM convo is that kiting Garwal out of the phase zone was an exploit, doesn’t look like he talked about the actual taming itself. I am happy however that I did keep this quest even though I did get the Garwal kill ages ago when I was leveling just after Wotlk released. Back then I actually tamed Garwal as a white wolf and named him Garwal so my pet could be my own quest target. I actually had ppl run up and try to kill my pet because their questhelper went off :P

  224. Ryannie - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:38 pm UTC

    yes it is true i just got it on Quel’dorei all u need is Wyrm sting and u are set may take along time to keep him like that

  225. Ryannie - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:43 pm UTC

    if u arnt lvl 80 you might wana bring a friend :)

  226. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:47 pm UTC

    @Rikaku:
    I agree. The word ‘exploit’ makes me feel like I’ve entered into some top-secret area without permission and changed the coding around so that I, and only I, could have something no one else is allowed to have. Think Gameshark, et al.

    And you’re right, Rik, the ghost slime and such are no different than this worgen. As I said earlier, it’s not like the Devs put it in there and said “Okay, lets see how many people can find this…” or something of that nature. It was a pure oversight and accident, and when the time came around that it was noticed or brought to the GMs/Devs attention, then they did something about it: simply make it untamable. Why should that change with this? It’s one in the same.

    The word ‘exploit’ is being used too loosely here. They can’t ban me for doing exactly what it is that I’m supposed to do.

  227. Ghostcarrot - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:48 pm UTC

    Just tamed him on Dawnbringer at 8:30 pm EST. Apparently he is still tamable.

  228. Nimrod - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:48 pm UTC

    Thought I’d just chime in here.

    Garwal is not phased. He is invisible, and to see him you require Eyes of the Eagle from Ulfang. He cannot be kited out of Rivenwood, since you will lose the buff when leaving.

    The Eyes of the Eagle allows you to see through the invisibility, but also does a reaction modifier that makes him hostile. Leaving Rivenwood turns him nonhostile.

    I was able to help a guildmate get theirs, but have finished the quest myself a long time ago, and can no longer get the buff needed to see him. /sob

  229. Laike - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:48 pm UTC

    woo, tamed, worked!
    actually paid on dual spec for this >.<
    (but, well, I wanted to, eventually. just a shame it had to go out of my druid’s purse)

    here’s the deal:
    I’m lvl 71
    had about 4~ attempts where he morphed right before the tame, therefore he got back to wolf afterwards.
    what I figure is, the tame has to pop exactly between his emote/chat, and his actual morph. so, accordingly, if he does those at 50%, then he needs to pass that threshold and the tame has to pop no more than half a second later.
    being level 71, and one who forgot to train wyvern sting ranks (BM spec originaly), I had to take him down to 51-52% and then sting and do the procedure. I had two methods of doing that – either by shooting a bit and then meleeing with a weak weapon, or – taming a spider (or using a failed attempt’s wolf results) and letting it hit garwal from 60% and down (keeping mend pet up cause it’s terribly weak). when it’s on 52% I abandoned the pet and proceeded to wyvern and tame on 14.5 sec left. (started taming after I saw “15 sec left” but before 14)
    for this to work, with my wyvern sting of 300~ damage, I had to have garwal on about 7200~ health. no more than 7250 atleast, but no less than 7100 (else he’ll get too much damage before the sting does it all)
    sounds tough, but a spider pet realy does less than 100 damage and with patience it’ll work out.

    also – there was a lvl 80 hunter and we were partied together and sort of alternating attempts. he failed some times like me. he had haste, so taming took only 18 sec for him, and he told me his wyvern ticks for 800~ damage.
    after I got mine, I stayed around to look at him trying, and when his mob was on 7700~ hp and he did the sting, I shouted at him to start taming at 15.5 sec left (so there will be 18-15.5=2.5 sec left for the sting to do one tick of damage, get him down below 50%, and 0.5 sec of error margin incase he does it too soon)
    I dont know if he listened to me but that attempt worked.

    tl;dr:
    do your math, wyvern sting has to get him below 50% at most, 0.5sec before the taming pops. AFTER he says “enough of this” but BEFORE he changes.

    can be safely dismissed, DC, log in. dunno about other stuff. hopefully only arena is the problem. I wasnt sure if he might revert back if I changed specs back to main spec, so I dismissed and then changed – but it SHOULD be fine. dont take my word for it – I’m hoping someone else will try :P
    and like someone said – it looks damn cool with BW! (eyes of the beast on THAT, baby!)

  230. Laike - July 4th, 2009 @ 8:51 pm UTC

    dang, that’s even longer than I thought >.<

  231. shanx - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:00 pm UTC

    I meleed him (without weapons) down to 53% then Disengage, then wyvern, started taming just as the timer was about to tick down to 14, done deal.

  232. Kiaron - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:03 pm UTC

    So I was looking at the spell for the Eyes of the Eagle buff and this is what it gives according to http://thottbot.com/s43060
    Effect 1
    Apply Aura: Mod Invisibility Detection
    Value: 5000
    Effect 2
    Apply Aura: Force Reaction
    Faction: Friendly, Force Reaction
    Effect 3
    None

    So Mod Invisibility Detection 5000 is needed to see him. Are there any other detect invisibility items or spells in the game (from other quests) that give the same value? I don’t know if this was common knowledge or not but the reason why this comes to mind is because a while back it used to be if you had the triangulation buff you’d be able to see those worms in netherstorm without having the brain damage buff because they gave the same detect invis value

    Doing a quick search found http://thottbot.com/s42169 Reflective Dust (gives Mod Invis Detect 5000) given by Inspector Tarem in Dustwallow Marsh. I tried getting it and hearthing but when I did the buff disapeared. I didn’t try a warlock summon but I’d assume it’s going to be the same outcome. I tried looking through other detect invis spells (http://thottbot.com/?e=Apply%20Aura%3A%20Mod%20Invisibility%20Detection) but not much luck or I missed something. Does anyone see any other detect invis spells that give a 5000 value?

  233. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:08 pm UTC

    Still at this with another hunter who is 80. She’s wyvern stinging him, i’m trying without it. We’re both failing equally. UGH!

  234. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:13 pm UTC

    Just confirming this is still doable…. the 80 hunter just got hers. I hope I’m next!

  235. CobraLily - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:24 pm UTC

    GOOD LUCK Snuzzled!

  236. noworg - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:25 pm UTC

    well, i tried to tame it for 2 1/2 hours and it´s always morphing back to wolf-form when the tame pops.
    is it fixed in EU already?

  237. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:35 pm UTC

    I don’t see why it would be hotfixed in EU when it’s still working in US. Just keep trying. It takes great timing and great luck :(

  238. Trowa Barton - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:39 pm UTC

    get 160 haste or abouts + or -10 get her to 51% sleep her click tame at 16 seconds its flawless

  239. Côma - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:41 pm UTC

    Still doable on EU. You just have to get your timing right. The end of taming has to be exactly at the time the first tick of the wyvern sting pushes him under 50% HP.
    My numbers are:
    Level 71 Hunter
    Dropped him to 52%, stopped all attacks
    Wyvern Stung him.
    Waited until 16 seconds of Wyvern Sting are left.
    Started Taming.
    The DOT when Wyvern Sting wears off pushes him under 50% and at that moment Tame was finished.

  240. Trowa Barton - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:45 pm UTC

    the key is just haveing a 3 second diffrence betwen ur sting and tame so just 1 dot pushes him over at the exact moment hence 160 ish haste

  241. Arjuna - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:45 pm UTC

    I would not think raising tickets witha GM is a good idea as this brings this to attention to those who would hot-fix the pet. We all know its going to happen sometime just not when. Every post a gm gets is logged and if the weight of those is large enough the priority of the fix will move forward deny the chance for many hunters to get this lovley skin.

  242. Laike - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:49 pm UTC

    noworg (I see what you did there!)
    I take it that your tame pops after he morphed to a worgen – that’s too late.
    tame has to pop before that (but after he does his chat thing)

  243. Vnamknight - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:52 pm UTC

    My trick was to dps em with my hands then at 7450, I disengaged and wyvern stung him, at the 1/2 way point of the CD which is 15 seconds I did the training. Easy as eating chocolate pie. Good Luck yaw

  244. Lisca - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:52 pm UTC

    Still work’s on EU Destromath,
    have tried it 4 times, wait until 10 not 14 sec’s… ^^
    Shot him down to 66% -> Wyvern -> wait until 10 sec -> tame

  245. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:55 pm UTC

    Got him! Wow my heart is racing. Finally tamed this beauty with the help of the 80 surv Wyvern Stinging him at 58% then I hit tame with 14s left on the Sting.

    Hunters helping hunters… I love this class!

    http://img7.imageshack.us/i/worgen.png

  246. noworg - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:55 pm UTC

    ok, after 3hours or so it finally happend even to me that a tick from wyvern forced him to morph in ecactly the 0,1sec when the tame popped up. <3

    hard work, but it´s worth.

  247. saleh - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:56 pm UTC

    does the pet reset when you go into arena??? plzzzz someone tell us!

    T_T

  248. Trowa Barton - July 4th, 2009 @ 9:58 pm UTC

    lol yes it rests in arena

  249. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:08 pm UTC

    In full pvp gear, i shot an explosive shot at him, he was at 55% i wyverned him then waited till wyvern was at 14 sec left then casted tame, got him in 3 tries. Mabe i was just lucky

  250. Mychelle - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:16 pm UTC

    Just tamed him on Eredar, and I can say that taming him with a partner to help you will save you hours of trying. Got me, and another fellow hunter both one.

    Alot of people here have stated stabling him wont have him change back into a wolf. But arenaing will. My question here is, can you stable him. Use another pet for arena, pull him back out later when your done arenaing, and him still be a wolven?

  251. Sellera - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:17 pm UTC

    Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!!!!!! Got him on like my 11th try…. had to get my hunter up from 65 – 71 today after i saw this post lol, took me 8 1/2 hours but i got him xD

    His name is Fluffy!

    (P.S.) The GMs said they may remove it so i say we start a petition on the forums to make them not do it! i wanna keep my smexy worgen!

  252. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:17 pm UTC

    So now while we (those who have tamed) soak up attention and those who havent race to get a tame, have to wait and cross our fingers that blizz lets us keep the skin. I wonder if they hotfix it will we be able to use him in arena, assuming they let us keep him.

  253. Mychelle - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:21 pm UTC

    OH!. I just wanted to also note on here. For those of you who might like the little wolf skin it gives you.

    After you get your Worgen. (Dont know why I said Wolven in my earler post…) If you abandon the quest it’ll remove the little skin from your pack, BUT you can go back to the NE Girl that started the quest chain and have her give you another one.

    Only works in Howling Ford, but you get to keep it and not have the quest clogging up your logs. =P

  254. Eonz - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:41 pm UTC

    Can anyone confirm or deny these two questions?

    1: Does he lose the skin if he dies?

    2: Does he lose the skin if he levels?

    Thank you to those who risked losing the skin in order to test it for the rest of us.

  255. Xiongmao - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:46 pm UTC

    Just got him on Velen. Took about three hours, just a bunch of trial and error.
    Here is the skinny:
    I’m a BM spec level 80 hunter so… you do not need Wyvern Sting to tame him!
    When he was at 70% health I popped serpent sting on him and started taming
    When the tame had 50% cast time left I had a level 61 hunter friend pop his serpent sting on him.
    I managed to get the tame off just as he was giving his little speech and right as he was turning. You NEED to be finishing the tame as he starts talking.
    It took me about three hours and numerous tries to get him. It was very frustrating.
    Survival hunters probably will have an easier time getting him with wyvern sting, I just wanted to let people know it was possible as another spec.

    And he did not change back to a wolf when he leveled. People who have that happen probably did not tame him as he was turning so they just ended up with the wolf.

  256. Malamute - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:48 pm UTC

    WOOT! just got this badd ass pet it owns and i got him down to 52% wyverned (rank 5) then started taming at 15 secs and got him. first try

    TY MANIA FOR HELPING FIND OUT BOUT THIS SICK PET :P

  257. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:54 pm UTC

    Skin only goes away in arena. Im not sure of Bg’s though

  258. Malamute - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:57 pm UTC

    Quick question… im afraid to do anything cause i think he might pop back into wolf…. can anyone tell what will trigger that? so i can avoid having that happen ty .

  259. Ja - July 4th, 2009 @ 10:58 pm UTC

    I can confirm the following since I have tried it with my own pet.

    You do NOT lose skin if:
    -You go in/out of BGs (Tried in WG and Alterac, and still had it while inside and after getting out.

    -Tried stabling it, and taking it out again, and while the little icon is that of a wolf you still get to keep the worgen.

    -Loging out is fine, when you go back you’ll see you character and a wolf, but it’s really your worgen.

    -Bestial Wrath is fine to use, no glitches or anything.

    Haven’t tried arena since everyone seems to say you do lose it that way.

  260. Ja - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:00 pm UTC

    Oh and instances are fine aswell

  261. tauc - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:03 pm UTC

    thx for info m8, just managed to tame him after 3-4 tries.
    lvl 75 hunter here with 2478 AP, used wywern at 58% and started taming at 14 sec.

    funny thing is that i already did this questchain, but skipped the last quest of all cause i wanted to save my worg disguise :)

  262. Larnen - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:07 pm UTC

    Working fine at 5am server time on EU-Shadowsong. Key things to remember:

    1) Your sting does damage in ticks, and the 1st tick isnt immediate
    2) If your sting ticks for X and his health is 13696 then (6968 + X) requires 1 tick to trigger, (6968+X) to(6968 + 2X) requires 2 ticks etc
    3) For high level hunters, you wont have fine control over what health he is left on. I’d recommend making a quick note of the health ranges vs how many ticks you need and then referencing it when you sting him. Get as many procs as possible on cooldown to smooth out the damage.
    4) This is *all* about making sure the right number of ticks go off during the tame. There is no mystical number, you can work it out based on your sting damage and the %age health he is on when you sting him. The 14s number is generally based on 1 tick pushing him through.

  263. Avaric - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:13 pm UTC

    I just saw one, not two minutes ago, on Skywall-US, outside of the Slave Pens. It was a troll hunter who had it so I couldn’t ask where the heck it came from. Should have known I could get info on it on Petopia. :)

  264. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:14 pm UTC

    To be honest I’m finding it hard to figure out -how- this is an exploit. As we’re really gaining -nothing- here. We aren’t truly taming a Worgen, I am wondering if this Worgen was actually a -pure- Worgen and NOT human-cursed. We’re not lying or tricking people.

    Like Exodus. Didn’t they get guild banned for what they did? I think it’d have been different if they had just come out and told blizz instead of lying and hiding it lol.

    But we’re not lying or hiding it- what the first hunter with the pet could have been considered Exploiting tho, he didn’t tell anyone, not even a GM how he obtained it, if I remember right. When you do that, that is exploiting the game somewhat as well the game mods don’t know what the crap you’re doing. Devs don’t know what the crap you’re doing.

    But I wouldn’t call what we’re doing exploiting.

    Every time someone asks how did you get the worgen, I always answer :) tho granted not been on since I last posted really lol- real lief and all that.

  265. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:15 pm UTC

    Man I tell ya no other class can have this much fun in wow period.

  266. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:20 pm UTC

    ok so this is what I did after taming mabe someone else wants to give it a try as well.

    - I went and got turned into a warewolf myself ( curse in eastern howling fjord) it was badass having the double warewolf thing going.

    - I got my scribe friend to make me a book that transforms me into a white wolf for 2 min. now me (as a giant white wolf) my pet warewolf (grendel) and a worg pup run around orgrimar making heads turn.

    -I went to sholazar and used the eyes of the beast glyph to rape from behind bushes. My friend was on his alliance toon and ppl were goin nuts “OMG a warewolf keeps ganking me” “who is this riojin bastard” and so on.

  267. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:23 pm UTC

    @Ryai, to my knowledge no hunter has ever been banned for taming a pet, no matter how funky their methods were. As long as Blizzard’s game says it’s tameable, if you tame it, then there cannot possibly be any exploit (well, barring things like hacking/3rd party software/walljumping/etc). Of course, I could be wrong, but just looking back at all the past “creative” tames, the only things that have happened are the ability for new hunters to tame was removed, and hunters who had previously tamed got to keep it.

    Even with the ZG snakes, they weren’t removed from the hunters. A hunter simply lost the ability to feed it. But that was ok, since BG would quickly restore the snake’s happiness. Again, exploit? Or creative use of game mechanics?

    I am praying that we will get to keep the cool worgen skin, but I’m not getting my hopes up. I’m also powerlevelling my 69 Alliance hunter fast so she can get in on this beauty too! He really is an awesome looking pet!

  268. Mychelle - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:23 pm UTC

    DEATH / REZ CONFIRM : If he dies on you, and you rez him, he still turns back into a Worgen.

    Just tested this on the one helped a guildie get. :)

  269. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:26 pm UTC

    Has anyone found any other shapeshifting mobs that can be tamed with a similar method?

  270. Torushe - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:29 pm UTC

    Hi Guys

    I just tamed him on Dragonblight (EU). Tried about 3 times to tame him – I paid for duel spec to get wyvern sting but wasn’t having any luck with timing the taming. Got a wolf 3 times :( Then I tried again and decided not to use wyvern sting. I used concussion and then just melee’d him down to 51% and then started tame. It was whilst I was doing this that I had the idea that he needed more damage to force his ‘change’. My b/f used his warrior & hit him once and he changed just as my tame finished and BINGO! On that basis, I’d say that you definitely don’t need wyvern sting – it’s all about the timing :) Good luck hunters! :D

  271. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:30 pm UTC

    I know that snuzzled, it’s just the comment the GM made in the SS, I really as I said don’t see how this is an exploit.

    But you do bring up a good point- it could be they think we hacked or something? And that it’s not just simply taming Garwal at the right moment? Cause from that point I can see how it would be seen as exploiting.

    But tbh I would have still have thought it if it was only that one hunter who first tamed him, the pally that made the thread did comment on how he wouldn’t tell and etc- that does sound like someone trying to not let it leak out they cheated.

    But bleh I got my worgen and I got some screenies of him, and later when it’s cooler [lolTexas] I’ll consider possibly power leveling one of my other hunters, as only two haven’t done the quest but granted those two are 62 and 40.

    Not really sure I could power level a Hunter from 24 or 30 to 71 lol.

  272. Ryai - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:33 pm UTC

    Edit: Torushe Wyvern Sting is for solo taming- you had to have a friend help get you to and past 51%. So no you didn’t need wyvern sting. And some people are able to do it solo without it.

    But the thing with WS is the fact that for people who can’t be sure they’ll deal the exact damage needed at the right point in time, WS is a safe alternative. Assuring if you time it right you can take him from healthy to worgen in the time needed.

  273. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:37 pm UTC

    @Ryai I still think the “exploit” in the screenshot is referring to kiting him out of the area, or somehow being able to see him without the buff. Granted, I have no clue how this would be done, but I suppose anything is possible.

    I do agree, the way we’re doing it — simply taming him with precise timing — is in no way shape or form an exploit.

    I’ve seen people on the offical Hunter forums talking about how GMs they spoke to said they expect it to get fixed “real soon” so I don’t know how much time anyone will have for levelling anything. Frankly, I’m surprised it’s still in the game since when they accidentally made the noncom pet Mojo available to anyone by a simple emote, it was hotfixed within a few hours.

  274. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:43 pm UTC

    @Snuzzled:
    Yes, but remember, it’s a holiday weekend in the US, so I doubt anything will get done this weekend… if anything, Tuesday’s maintenance at best.

    @Ryai:
    Totally agree. No exploit, in my eyes. And I will say that forever and a day.

    Wow… I just realized this is the most I’ve posted here in… ages. Sweet!

  275. irwinn - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:45 pm UTC

    would just like to mention I tamed a 2nd and hopped into an arena skirmish match… and low and behold… it was a wolf in the match and wolf when I came back out.

    Do NOT zone into any arena with the pet I can confirm he will go back to the normal wolf model.

    :)

    also my original just hit 80. gogo mindless pet grinds.

  276. Creante - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:48 pm UTC

    Unfortunately, warlocks can only cast a “detect minor invisiibility” spell :/ I just tried to see if it would work (I’m the warlock friend of a hunter) to see if that would help us spot him for someone who’s already finished the quest. No luck.

  277. snuzzled - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:50 pm UTC

    @Grizzled, we can only hope. If that’s the case, that gives hunters who are just shy of the proper level 2-3 days to get up there, which is great! I was expecting a fix first thing Monday morning though. If this is even something that CAN be hotfixed, or if the realms would need to come down for it.

    Also, I think this is probably the most hits this site has gotten in a single day for… well, a long time at least!

  278. Wolfhammer - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:54 pm UTC

    woot tamed him very first try, by the Icemaz way, as described here.

  279. riojin - July 4th, 2009 @ 11:58 pm UTC

    Soooo anyone lookin into any other possible tameable shapeshifting mobs?

  280. Leozero - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:01 am UTC

    yeah i tried party with ppl with the quest and they just tame or get hurt by some invisible wolf, im still waiiting for a gm to answer my ticket to see if i can get last quest reset to tame it

  281. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:01 am UTC

    @Riojin hmmm, there are a couple of druid NPCs who might be tameable …. ;D

  282. Durana - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:03 am UTC

    Right now, I’m kicking myself for decideing to level in the Fjord as opposed to the Tundra. Missing out on this awesome pet makes me sad. Ah well.

    But, as opposed to wining about it, I’ve resolved to help my fellow hunters who can tame this bad boy. :) My brother’s DK hasn’t done the quest yet and I’m more than willing to hop onto him to help any hunters on the Eitrigg (US) server to tame this guy. It sucks that I can’t have him, doesn’t mean I can’t help other get him.

    I jsut basically get the hunter to melee garwal to around 55%, then start the tame. I watch their cast bar, and jsut before it finishes, a heart strike knocks Garwal down that bit of health and, if my timing is fine, into his worgen form :)

    Now onto the matter of the exploit. In the case of the Ghost Wolf, Ghost Hydra, etc, those creatures were just mislabled as tamable. it was Blizzard’s fault to begin with. With this worgen, you’re basically glitching him into a permanent state of transformation. You’re bending the rules of the game to your benefit, sounds likr a exploit to me. As to whether Blizz will revert all the Worgen pets back, I certainly hope not. But I sorta have the feeling that they will :( Cross your fingers though, I know I will be.

  283. Schadenfreude - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:09 am UTC

    I tamed this on Balnazzar-US just a few minutes ago. I used the original method; I tried out wyvern sting on another mob to make sure I knew exactly how much the poison dot would do, then got him down to about 51-52%. I got lucky and got it on my first try, he changed on the very last second of my tame. :) I thought the tame was going to complete before he changed, even.

    Now to go show it off in Dalaran. I’m pretty sore for missing the ghost wolf, slime and hydra, so grabbing this one for a little while at least without too much effort is real nice.

  284. Lorskan - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:11 am UTC

    My char is lvl 80
    Well I tryed many time without success.
    I discover that at 50% he mute in wargen but if I tame it when already trasformed we will reset when tamed.
    So I try to use wyvern when he was near 51% just to have him sleeping in wolf form. at 13 sec I start taming the wolf, when he wake up start running direct to me and 1 meter before me he mute in wargen and 0,5 sec taming pop up. Then I tamed him but he reset to wolf.

    I hope to be clear really i’m trying all the tactics without success.
    Please help

  285. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:11 am UTC

    @snuzzled wich druids do u have in mind?

  286. Mychelle - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:15 am UTC

    Still cant find someone with a answer to my question. ;.; Heh.

    “Alot of people here have stated stabling him wont have him change back into a wolf. But arenaing will. My question here is, can you stable him. Use another pet for arena, pull him back out later when your done arenaing, and him still be a worgen?”

  287. malard - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:22 am UTC

    i have a question. do i still have to be able to do the quest or can i use my wifes warrior who still needs to do the quest and we be in a party and such.

  288. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:24 am UTC

    As far as we know u have to be on that part of the quest to even see the mob. They r worlking on a way around that. So no currently being in the same party will not help you if u yourself are not on that part of the quest.

  289. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:24 am UTC

    @riojin Not really sure. I know there’s one who’s actually a Satyr (!) in a cave in Teldrassil. Not sure if he is considered a beast when he transforms, but he changes into a cat at some point during the fight (don’t remember what percent, or if it’s even a fixed percent).

    I just can’t think of any other mobs that transform other than druid mobs and possibly shaman mobs.

  290. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:26 am UTC

    @Mychelle, I haven’t personally tested it, but reports on the Hunter forums confirm that as long as your worgen is stabled, you can arena just fine with another pet. The reason he changes back during arena is that he’s got a hidden “buff” that causes him to show in worgen skin, and since zoning into an arena wipes your buffs… it’s bye-bye worgen.

    If he is stabled, there is no buff wiping, and thus he is safe from the reversion.

  291. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:27 am UTC

    Lorskan you’re taming to LATE. Get him down to 51-55% hp, pop wyvern sting on him, wait untill it’s AT 14 seconds, no sooner no later to start taming. It helps if you put Tame Beast in your numbered action bar and have the mouse curser over the TB buff on Garwal. At 14 seconds you hit tame beast, and if you got him down enough when tame beast goes off he will have JUST transformed and you’ll have a worgen.

  292. joecool7 - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:28 am UTC

    just curious satyr what realm and what faction was the gm on? thanks

  293. Mychelle - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:30 am UTC

    @snuzzled

    Thanks muches for the reply. Makes me feel alot better since I did intend on arenaing on my hunter at some point. But my love for rare pets was going to make me sacrifice ever getting back into an arena. =P heh.

  294. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:33 am UTC

    Speaking of Arena, what about the Arena pits? There’s one in Nagrand, one in Blades Edge and probably some in northrend I’ve yet to stumble across, does -that- reset the pet or is it ARENA matches?

  295. Duracell - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:35 am UTC

    Any confirmation of being able to kite him out of phase to see him? My guildy is still wishing he had one :)

  296. Laike - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:41 am UTC

    did anyone finish the quest after taming him, or did you abandon/keep the quest(and wolf costume?)
    also, did anyone with dual-spec switch specs with him active?

  297. Mychelle - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:42 am UTC

    @Duracell

    Well. When I was helping my guildie get one. Even though I “CAN” see him. He aggroed on to me at one point, I backed up and accidently hit “just” out of range of the area you can see him in, and he poofed off my screen. Dont know if that answers your question any though. =/

  298. kathadrebe - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:42 am UTC

    someone find a way to get him if youve finished the quest =)
    im trying to see if the dust in dustwallow marsh will work in howling fjord but no luck getting a lock so far.

  299. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:46 am UTC

    Ryai:
    I’m guessing it’s strictly arena. Arena is instance AND it has a particular set of rules that seem to apply only to arena and not so much BG’s or world PvP. I think that’s why the coding resets the worgen to a worg.

  300. Kleeo - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:48 am UTC

    Being in the same party does not allow you to see him, you must have the buff Eyes of the Eagle. Tried having a friend kite him out of the area as well but no luck with that either. Although when he does spawn you can briefly see him but during that time I wasn’t able to click on him and then he goes poof and he’s invisible.

  301. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:49 am UTC

    Alright ty for answerinf Rikaku :)

    I was just worried as naturally there are those ‘open arena’ places in outlands and was worried there was some in northrend.

  302. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:54 am UTC

    Ryai:
    Oh no question. I’d worry too. Quite honestly I’m not even going near Arena at all (I hate it) but especially not with my worgen, and I don’t blame ya. I just wanted to help clarify (or provide somet thought) onto why it’s just Arena that resets him and nothing else.

    Plus I want to keep my worgen XD So I’m really hoping that Blizz lets em stay. And I know people keep saying don’t get attached…

    I’m BM, it’s impossible for me to NOT get attached. XD

  303. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:57 am UTC

    ahaha I know how you feel, even if I was another specc, I’d get attached too. I rolled hunters cause of the pets. Ranged dps was just a bonus :D

  304. Duracell - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:11 am UTC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYVY_DeeYbM

    This is for the ones requesting a video. This is not mine and I do not take credit for it.

  305. SinR - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:25 am UTC

    confirmed, just tamed one at 71, lots of trial and error. keep trying and you’ll have your ultra rare worgen

  306. Mazinkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:25 am UTC

    I just tamed him on July 4th at about 10:10 pm. I was doing some BG’s today and HATING my hunter when this rogue in pve gear kept killing me inside of the 2 stuns. After taming this pet though, I just want to play my hunter. Makes me like him again.

    Coolest pet in game, if they take it away. I will cancel.

  307. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:26 am UTC

    anyone know if the Akkarai Hatchling are tameable?

  308. Thrasa - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:30 am UTC

    Thanks so much for your great instructions, I got the Worgen pet on the first try!!!

  309. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:31 am UTC

    Urg just noticed they’re going to remove taming it in the next patch or something.

    Must get this on another hunter.

    Must get Orc up to 71.

    NINE MORE LEVELS TO GO. GO BABY GO. .-. lol at the troll thread someone linked too.

  310. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:36 am UTC

    Ryai:
    Where did you see that if you don’t mind me asking?

  311. Clown - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:41 am UTC

    well i was one of the first ppl to tame one very early on july 4th and i really wish blizzard would stop screwing with us and just give us an official word on what they are gona do. hopefully wel find out on the 5th sometime in the afternoon/morning

  312. Wolfhammer - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:51 am UTC

    [img]http://www.exileguild.eu/forum/download/file.php?id=6[/img]

  313. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:51 am UTC

    One of the posts linked it somewhere. I can’t find it tho omygod there’s so many posts from us all XD

  314. elsah - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:55 am UTC

    I don’t know who was first on shadow council.
    I tamed him at 3:25 am on july 4th.
    He’s a nice pet, he looked like a Harry.
    Just imagined yelling “harry” when I need
    help. And so, he is Harry!

    I like my king krush and gondria more tho.
    Aotona was my first and it took me 6 months
    of looking (since I hit 76) to find loque.
    I am (obviously) running out of stable space.

    Yes, I know we have 5! But only a hunter would
    understand. LOL

  315. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:03 am UTC

    I havent seen this many comments since ghost wolf lmao

  316. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:06 am UTC

    lol ya. good ol ghost wolf /nastalgia

  317. Duracell - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:13 am UTC

    Confirmed as far as I know.

    Cannot make him visible if kited out of phase. I stood on the border of Grizzly and Fjord, and used my pet to take him into Grizzy with eyes of the beast, as I could see him in the Grizzly zone, since my body was still in Fjord and had the buff, my friend could not.

    Also if I moved my toons body out of the eagle buff range, I lose agro and he disappears. Basically if you cant see him, he cannot see you.

  318. Bleys - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:16 am UTC

    Got this just now on The Scryers after waiting in line behind a tauren :P …for an hour….
    GO GO HUNTERS!

  319. elsah - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:19 am UTC

    Lorskan , remember there are different wyvern stings. If you just respec’d,train the higher ones.
    I was 80 also(with 2 characters), has nothing to do with it.
    This is from the forums here: Icemaz on the forums gives us this method:

    1. Get Wyvern Sting. It does about 19% damage by itself over 6 secs, and sleeps for 30.
    2. Find him.
    3. Hurt him until he is approx 67-69% health.
    4. Wyvern sting him.
    5. Wait till there is 14 secs left on Wyvern sting.
    6. At 14 secs left, cast tame beast.
    7. If done right, right as your tame ends, he will have just transformed.
    /end

    You have to time it so he is morphing just as tame ends.
    To see % of the mob, go into interface > status text > then check display percentages.
    Now you can see when he gets to 67-69,etc.
    If need be, you also have a stop watch connected to your clock/time.
    Click it and click stopwatch. You can close the clock if it is in the way and you should be able to move the stopwatch to different parts of the screen.
    You could use this for wyvern sting or count out.

    Most of all, it can take a lot of patience. I did a dry run on PTR
    last night about 9pm. Took me over 45 tries.
    Then I was ready for live. Had to respec for wyv sting.
    WEnt back to get the quest and still, it took me about 18 times
    to get it on live.

    I didn’t do this quest at 71 because I was not able to fly yet.
    I am a tad lazy and I was not going to truck up huge hills and
    have to find some other mobs in the midst of those spiders!
    IF I had been able to fly, I would have done a lot more
    quests under level 75/77.
    Not much of an achievement hunter, so I didn’t go back.

    Have patience and good luck. Really, we don’t now yet what
    the outcome will be with these guys. :( I suspect we’ll
    know more on monday.

  320. Pandaclaw - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:22 am UTC

    Long time reader, love the blog and petopia, I GOT ME A WORGEN, omg I love this blog!!

  321. lovcat - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:44 am UTC

    he changes at what? 50%?
    I do the 67-69% and i keep getting a worg.. he doesn’t change.. what % does he transform so i can time it a bit better?

  322. Duracell - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:04 am UTC

    You have to time your sting and tame cast time to finish exactly the moment he transforms at under 50%, so if youre trying to solo it, the dmg from the sting has to push him under right at you finish the tame and in between when he yells and turns into a worgen.

  323. Saminni - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:06 am UTC

    He changes at 50%. I had better luck by whittling him down to the 54% range and then wyvern stinging him. You’ll probably need a try or three to get the timing down perfectly, it’s EXTREMELY tricky, and people keep gangking it and camping it to be asses.

    Really hoping we get to keep him. The Ghost Wolf is one of the few “rare” pets I missed, and I’ve always regretted it. :(

  324. Saminni - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:07 am UTC

    On a side note, DO NOT wait for him to yell before you sting, even if he’s still a worg–if he yells and you sting him, he won’t shapeshift at ALL, no matter how much damage you do to him.

  325. Morgrimsson - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:09 am UTC

    I just got him, and man is he worth it! A beauty unlike anything else in the game. I just want to say thank you to all the hunters of both Alliance and Horde who showed tremendous camaraderie and support to everyone patiently waiting for their shot at this guy. At the end of the day, we’re all hunters after all :). Good luck and good hunting to everyone!

  326. Anotherdk - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:17 am UTC

    Here’s how you can tame him without Wyvern Sting:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhotzBn6lpk

  327. Vomonte - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:17 am UTC

    I got him after 2 tries! The hardest part was getting the lady to show the start of the quest line! (Skorn, btw)

    The first time I accidentally shot him too far and he changed, but I Faked Death and he ran back and reset.. the second time I got him down to 53%, Wyvrn stung him, waited for it to be 1/2 over, then started the tame. He didnt change till EXACTLY when the tame finished. (Did the “Ding” for learning new skills and transformed to worgen at the same moment)

  328. Zomgitsjrad - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:19 am UTC

    it twas i who brought it to the hunter community’s attention…however i can’t say that i was the first to tame it. Just happened to be doing dailys (and yes it was on darkspear) and saw a hunter with it. He was kind of a jerk about telling me (in that he didn’t and basically shrugged me off) where/how he got it. So i posted on the hunter forums =D. Thx again to all those that helped me get mine on my hunter.

  329. Anotherdk - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:27 am UTC

    >it twas i who brought it to the hunter community’s attention…however i can’t say that i was the first to tame it.

    But I think it is Xethik who did the most of hard work of discovering how to tame him.
    You two are some sort of heroes of WoW hunter community.

  330. Anotherdk - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:30 am UTC

    PS My post with a youtube link is meant to show how to tame Garwal without Wyvern Sting.

  331. Duckystrike - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:33 am UTC

    Got mine! sexy! I hope they don’t take them away :(

  332. Zomgitsjrad - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:33 am UTC

    rofl….heroes no….just a nice person :P

  333. Ivoire - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:34 am UTC

    Oh hey Zomgitsjrad, I saw you doing Argent Tourney dailies :D

    But I have to admit, a hunter prancing around with a Worgen pet wouldn’t go unnoticed for very long. Kudos to you though for rallying all of us up though.

  334. lovcat - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:43 am UTC

    If anyone is interested.. I got him.. and I am already attached to him (as you can see in pic)

  335. lovcat - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:43 am UTC

    http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/misskitty85/bella_remus.jpg

  336. Anotherdk - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:57 am UTC

    > just a nice person :P

    I think Witted would disagree :D
    BTW I wonder if he was telling the truth claiming he got Garwal for over than 3 months.

  337. Hunterdruid - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:02 am UTC

    I spent an hour or two solo-taming him with my hunter this afternoon, getting the timing just right… so many failed attempts.

    This evening, I helped my hunter friend get his. With two of us, it was CAKE… one attempt, tamed! My friend (level 72) brought him down to about 54%, then Wyvern Sting to sleep. Began the tame at 14 seconds left. I stood right next to the mob while my friend counted down the timing on his Tame out loud (we were in the same room, but you could probably use Vent or just watch the timer yourself). 5..4..3..2..1.. on “1,” the instant his Tame finished, I whacked the mob. He fell below 50%, emoted, tamed as a worgen!

    Moral of the story… bring a buddy. :)

  338. Zomgitsjrad - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:11 am UTC

    idk….he’s a semi fresh 80 so possibly.

    @Anotherdk. Lol if Witted were a true hunter he wouldn’t have been so rude about it when i asked him the first couple of times…..now he won’t even answer my whispers >.< lols

  339. Kat - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:26 am UTC

    OMG I finally got him after nearly three hours! I never would have been able to do it if it weren’t for an ally that came up and took turns with me (I’m horde, on a pvp server too). I watched his technique and was able to imitate it well enough to get the pet.

    I was following all the steps here but I was making one critical mistake that others may be making too. I was bringing his health down with ranged attacks, but I was able to be much more precise with melee. Once you get him to the right amount (which was 51% for me because I’m stupid and forgot to train my wyvern sting ranks after respeccing) just wing clip, disengage, and wyvern sting. Wait for the 14 second mark and tame!

    Okay, maybe melee is obvious. But just thought I’d throw it out there.

  340. CobraLily - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:31 am UTC

    Gratz Kat! I just beat him silly to 54% unarmed attacking him then stung him.

  341. Lori - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:37 am UTC

    I am a very sad hunter. I hadn’t done this quest but a few weeks ago did it for the Toured the Fjord achievement. :( I hope someone finds a way to tame him after having done the quest….

  342. lovcat - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:49 am UTC

    At lv 75 without the extra wyvern sting talent i had to take him down to 53% and tame at 15 seconds.. then POOF. Worgen!

    It was said before.. I was trying all the percentages at my level.. i finally found one that worked. Hope this helps anyone interested.

    This pet cost me 10g (respec) lol.. possibly 20 if i go back to BM

  343. Roknarsongor - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:50 am UTC

    Just got mine today, every 5 minutes “Where did you get that awesome pet?”

  344. Lukos - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:00 am UTC

    Got mine a lil bit ago on Lighteninghoof…Gotta get the timing right otherwise all you get is a white wolf

  345. joecool7 - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:01 am UTC

    just curious, i have a hydra, and even with the fix so it doesnt hiss constantly if still hisses every time it moves then stands still. It’s gotten to the point where i can’t even raid with it, and i don’t want a stable pet, how can i contact a blizzard person about it?

  346. Shorty - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:11 am UTC

    Will it transform to the wolf when u enter a raid dungeon?

  347. josh - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:18 am UTC

    hey i got one problem= where do i get the quest to begin the “chain” and what lvl do i get it at? everything else is completely up to fate and i want my fate to be shared with my new worgen!!!!

  348. Zomgitsjrad - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:29 am UTC

    @shorty no the only place/event etc that’s known to make it revert is if you enter any sort of arena with it

    @josh only b/c i’m lazy atm b/c it’s late i’m just going to say go search for Garwal on a site like Wowhead and then follow the steps from there to back trace to the start of the quest chain for your particular faction.

  349. Damita - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:38 am UTC

    Just captured him after several near misses. Takes a lot of patience and good timing/no lag. Now I’m just hoping Blizzard lets me keep him.

  350. Nyyri - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:39 am UTC

    I just tamed this guy after a good few hours of trying and taking turns with other hunters.

    I have to mention that the guide is wrong. This guy doesn’t change till 50%.

    1. Get him down to 51%
    2.Cast Wyvern sting (he is immune to traps)
    3. Just as wyvern sting hits 14seconds cast TAME
    4. He should change just as you tame him.

  351. eponje - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:46 am UTC

    Done @ archimonde FR — THX you for your user guide

    Nimpe lvl 74 alliance

  352. Hawkshadow - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:48 am UTC

    I just tamed him!!! took a lot of tires but i was able to do it (and thats saying something since i play with around 2k lat!…just had to start taming at 16 seconds…) lol. but i do have afew questions for people here:

    1. If it dies, when you rez is he still a worgen?
    2. is it true you cant go into BGs with them?

    thanks guys for the info

  353. reddrake - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:48 am UTC

    i fed my worgen…. worg haunch

  354. wolfy - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:08 am UTC

    Werewolf Name Generator

  355. Makoes - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:19 am UTC

    heyas all, I managed to tame him after about 2hrs trying. the hard part was the timing, I took off almost all my gear, melee’d him down to 52%, wyvern(rank5) stinged him and started tame at 13/14sec.

    He’s awsome, haven’t tried lving him yet, but he really is a cool pet. while I was trying to tame him I couldn’t help think that “Ya, this is how challanges should be set for hunters. not long respawn time, but prescise timeing!” To find the beast was easy, but it was the timing thats the most challanging, and that to me is what a true test of a hunters abilities are!

    I’d like to thank a lv 71 hunter names Shigga (sp?) On Arathor for not only cheering me on, but by also clearing the wondering worgs that were around, and keeping them off me as I made my Many attepts.
    I hope that what I learned during the many tries will help benifiet you in your attempts at this wonderfully awsome wolf.
    thank you :)

    ~Makoes
    (and her worgen “Galian”)

  356. Sunohara - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:20 am UTC

    russian wow server Король Лич
    when he reaches 52% i sting him, then trying to team it. just a second before end of teaming he changes his form, then… he changes his form back! and i recive just a plain white wolf.

  357. Lorskan - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:28 am UTC

    I got it :)
    Well the healt of the mob for me was a bit different.
    I got it till 50% because my explosive shot do more damage.
    However got it till 50% that use wyvern sting.
    Waiting exaclty till 14 sec and start using tame beast.
    Last sec or less he mute and tame pop up.
    It’s not question of healt but lucky.
    That was the same tactic used for 4 hours tonight and this morning (eu time) I got it and 2nd try.
    Gratz to me and thank for the help guys.

  358. Curumor - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:38 am UTC

    Damn! A bit pissed about having done the quest now, especially since I was considering just keeping the skin to transform into a wolf…
    Oh well. At least I have the hydralisk. :)
    Here’s hoping someone finds a way to tame him after having done the quest.

    And I’m pretty sure those who tamed will get to keep him. But someone should start a petition or something just in case. ^^

  359. Sunohara - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:38 am UTC

    I DO IT
    56% and 13sec of sting
    AWESOME
    thx, op

  360. Costas - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:38 am UTC

    Well after 10 tries at lvl 80 i managed to tame him. First i down him at 60% and then 9 secs before Wyvern sting end started tame him. Was a bit tricky to find the right times. Well i hope Blizz at list give some happiness to hunter and dont remove that pet ever.

  361. Firewing - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:49 am UTC

    For those curious, the chain for this puppy starts with “The Cleansing.” Then “Brother Betrayers.” I think. THen…”Eyes of the Eagle” then you can get Garwal.

    Anyway, last night I’d spent a good while taming this guy, (still don’t have him.) Us hunters had a neat rotation going along, (hordie, dwarfie, me) and we’d pull the any unwanted mobs off the taming hunter. It was pretty cool. We hunters stick together!

    But, more importantly, both the troll and dwarf there tamed him, and for a second, (the dwarf longer) he stayed worgen, before becoming a regualar worg. I gave up, till I came here and saw people still taming, so I’m still trying…

    -Firewing and her loyal armored wolf Iorek

  362. robdnvr - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:54 am UTC

    I got mine about a half hour ago on Fizzcrank. Took a few tries and thought it may have been fixed but kept at it and now he’s mine. :) Named him WolfmanJack

  363. Fromojoh - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:07 am UTC

    Hell ya I just got mine. Like it was said before sting him at 51% took me about 12 tried

  364. Windragonx - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:26 am UTC

    caught him yesterday on Nagrand(EU)
    1 test out your wyvern sting on him to see how much damage it does first!
    2 add 50 to that and you get the percent of what you need to get him down to
    3 get him down to that wyvern sting him
    4 when there’s 14 seconds left on wyvern sting cast tame beast
    5 voila! that’s how i got him!

  365. Gutler - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:58 am UTC

    Me and my worgie ^-^
    http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss341/Guttler/WoWScrnShot_070509_002201.jpg

  366. finalxcution - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:58 am UTC

    Has anyone tried Misdirecting Garwal onto a hunter that has already done the quest? Maybe it will become visible if you can get aggro.

  367. Moltenrain - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:15 am UTC

    It’d be nice if mania would edit my earlier confusion if this guy reverts when leveled, as it’s high in the post, and he does not revert when leveled.

    As I’m guessing now, the change is a scripted display change.

  368. Isaac - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:30 am UTC

    just got it last night.

    at 56% i wyvern stinged it…15 secs left i started taming…took me 4 tries ^^

    german server – anub’arak

  369. tim - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:59 am UTC

    Can anyone confirm if this has been hot fixed? I’ve been trying for the last two hours and no joy…

  370. Matt - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:00 am UTC

    is there a way we can still tame it off a friend if i already done the quest im willing find one of my mate in guild to spawn it… is there a way i can still see it and tame the pet ?

  371. Solenor - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:11 am UTC

    I just tamed him this morning on Bloodhoof after about an hour of trial and error with the timing of the Wyvern Sting. As of this morning he is still tameable. I have the feeling and am hoping that if Blizzard does fix this, they will reward all the people who were lucky enough to tame him with being able to keep theirs, like they did when they fixed the Spirit Wolf. That fix rendered it untameable, but let players who had already done so keep their prize.

  372. Xethik - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:16 am UTC

    I don’t think it was hotfixed, I just tamed a third test one when I heard it was a couple hours ago.

    @Anotherdk
    Thanks for that man. I just wanted a Worgen pet myself. =]

  373. Joshua - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:17 am UTC

    The guide in the post is correct – for level 80’s. Confirmed as level 71 hunter 3 hours ago, not fixed.

    Also, the pet shows in his wolf form in the log in screen.

  374. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:24 am UTC

    would anyone know the 50% of health he would have to be and when i should start the tame for my level? im a 78 hunter and my warvyen sting is at rank 4 and does 942 damage. im not good at the percent things. so far i got him down to 51% health left and tames him at 14 seconds left and right before the tame ended he changed, so when i tamed him he was just a regular wolf.

  375. Trowa Barton - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:27 am UTC

    i love this thread and the life its takeing but posts like Hunters discover “new” Worgen pet | World of Warcraft Shop.. annoy me uve posted the same dam thing like 30 times go try to sell ur keyloggers somewere else

  376. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:32 am UTC

    Just tamed him on a premade on the PTR (my highest hunter on live is lvl 32 :’( so I’m not gonna be able to get to lvl 71 by the time it’s hotfixed /sigh) and I’m loving it :D
    I went into his talents and got dash + boars speed and he actually looks like he’s going to attack someone when you activate dash while Eye of the Beasting him in Dalaran :D

    Now I just need a name…..

  377. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:37 am UTC

    ‘love this thread and the life its takeing but posts like Hunters discover “new” Worgen pet | World of Warcraft Shop.. annoy me uve posted the same dam thing like 30 times go try to sell ur keyloggers somewere else’

    Oh crap I think I clicked one of those, damnit, how do I see if I got a keylogger

  378. Solenor - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:38 am UTC

    Named mine Sabrewulf from the old Killer Instinct games on SNES. Figured w/ Blizz’s NES lineage in quests and NPC’s it was a perfect fit.

  379. Xethik - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:38 am UTC

    Ryai, if you are using any browser but IE you should be fine, but for now don’t log into anything (such as WoW account or emails) and use a virus scan. If you don’t have a virus scanner I hear AVG is good, but I’m sure there is some freeware that is better these day.

  380. Matt - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:41 am UTC

    is there a way we can still tame it off a friend if i already done the quest im willing find one of my mate in guild to spawn it… is there a way i can still see it and tame the pet ?

  381. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:44 am UTC

    pbffffffff /hedesk

    Thankfully I only really use FF while browsing but I’ve logged onto WoW.

    Hopefully I got nothing but checking now. Aurg why can’t people not be like this. I DONT GO STEALING THEIR FUN.

  382. Kag - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:45 am UTC

    just got mine right now on Drak’thul after many many trys and researching on youtube its awesome although i freaked for a sec when i logged out an saw my hunter in the character menu and my pet looked like a regular worg! but i logged back on and it was still the werewolf, so i hope blizz makes it so we can keep our prized worgen pets the way they are

  383. Volpe - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:46 am UTC

    No you have to be on the quest to tame it or else you cannot see it

  384. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:50 am UTC

    PS to everyone who wants to tame him. once you tame him DO NOT kill him again for the actual quest. you should just delete the quest or just have it in your quest log so just incase he turns back to normal, you can always try to get him again

  385. Duffen - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:58 am UTC

    OMG I JUST GOT HIM OMFG SO AWESOME

  386. Duffen - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:03 am UTC

    Can you stable him???

  387. Duffen - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:06 am UTC

    Can I do wintergrasp with him???

  388. Matt - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:07 am UTC

    well if we completed the quest how the hell we ment to get it ??

  389. Gloamin - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:09 am UTC

    @Matt: If you completed the quest already, there is currently no way available for you to tame him, sorry ’bout your luck.

  390. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:10 am UTC

    Duffen: You can do everything BUT Arena.

  391. Matt - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:12 am UTC

    that sucks… big time :( im asking game master to reset my quest :D mwhahahaha lol see if it works or not i saying i never completed it blah blah even thought i have lolz… see if they do it or not :D but i won,t mention im after pet = (SMART) :d

  392. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:23 am UTC

    Okay just to clear the air and any questions that still linger, this is what we know for SURE.

    Worgen keeps skin if you:
    - Level him
    - Stable him
    - Log out
    - Exit game
    - He dies
    - Dismiss him
    - Mount/Dismount
    - Duel with him
    - Dungeon/Raid with him

    Worgen loses skin if you enter Arenas.

    Not confirmed: entering battlegrounds (although if you can do instances/raids with him, I don’t see why not.)

  393. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:27 am UTC

    GL, Matt ;)

  394. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:31 am UTC

    Well I am extremely happy to see the love and joy spraed to the hunter community after such heavy nerfs via the blizz geniuses. NOW LETS HAVE A WAREWOLF PICTURE CONTEST!!!> who can come up with the most badass screenshot of their worgen pet. If blizz decides to be jerks and take this beauty away form us then we should go out with a bang at least. >.> anyone with me?

  395. Jimmy - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:34 am UTC

    Game Masters don’t reset quests Matt. So your plan won’t work.

    Dam i wish I never did this quest

  396. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:37 am UTC

    can someone confirm if you lose the pet when entering battle grounds?

  397. Aberon - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:38 am UTC

    I have a question. can u tame this guy while in a party with someone else who is on the quest? for those of us level 80s that have allready completed this.

  398. Aberon - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:39 am UTC

    can u tame this guy while in a party with a lower level character who has done this quest?

  399. Firewing - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:43 am UTC

    So, after much struggle and pain, finally got my wolf. He’s a beaut. I had a dwarf help me out, (first time I did some damage to help he got it. Took a whole lotta tries for me.) and we both got them. Named mine Alpha.

  400. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:44 am UTC

    CONFIRMED: They will stay as worgen when entering and exiting BGs. I just went into Strand of the Ancients with mine and he is still a worgen.

  401. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:46 am UTC

    WE CAN BEGE? EPIC. WAREWULF ET FACE.

    Must get back to leveling my orc and then my second belf. amigod powerlevel madness.

    Ofc after the scan. So far so good so hopefully no keyloggers.

  402. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:49 am UTC

    @Ryai:
    Lawl. Tear up something fierce, my friend.

    I went through last night to finish up the Midsummer Fire Festival stuff, running into the Alliance towns to desecrate their fires and you should have seen all the people who would gather around when I dismounted and there was Cataclysm, my worgen. I could have sworn I saw a few 80s running away in fear… or maybe not. It was the first time I’ve entered Ally territory and didn’t get assaulted. It was almost as if they were like “Go ahead, Mister Hunter. Just don’t have that thing eat us alive, please.” xD

  403. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:50 am UTC

    So now we need to dame druids guys! lets get on it!.

  404. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:53 am UTC

    Yes I think I will, this might make pvp a bit more fun lol.

    And aha. I kept getting ganked no matter what side I was on :/ really nice a bunch of lv 11’s jumped my lv 22 dorf. OH HUNTER HAS NO PET AND ISNT TRYING TO HURT US KILL IT!!

    Ug.

    And no no drood taming, I don’t want a nelf, furbolg, or tauren Xp

    For humor, look up Cruel Cruel Moon on youtube. More worgen madness 8)

  405. Leozero - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:08 am UTC

    CONFIRMED GMS CANT RESET THE QUEST (more like they arent allowed to reset for individuals) so wel have to wait to see if blizz makes garwal visible for anyone. maybe they will do o the tuesday, give it a week or two and then make it untameable

  406. Thaellyn - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:10 am UTC

    I don’t know if this got fixed already, but when I tamed him he turned right back into a wolf. I am level 80 though, so that might be related to what people were saying about him reverting if he dings when tamed. it would be lame if you couldn’t get this at 80 because of that.

  407. Drag - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:14 am UTC

    ohmg, its so awesome! i love him hes soooooooooo sexy!

    pls, someone can tell me 100%, if i join bg he’ll change back? pls someone :3

  408. Aragul - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:15 am UTC

    I just successfully tamed my worgen 10 minutes ago (Area 52-US). I had to time it so that the Tame Beast finished during the animation when Garwal shifts into a worgen (11 seconds for me using 3 ticks of Wyvern). If Garwal was a worgen and beating on me when Tame Beast finished, I would just get a wolf. Thankfully he respawns in 3-5 minutes around 28,8 and starts walking SE.

  409. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:37 am UTC

    @Drag:
    Refer to post #399 for that answer.

  410. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:38 am UTC

    Actually, it’s 397. But yeah. It’s there. Promise.

  411. tranqi - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:38 am UTC

    wouldn’t it be a better idea instead of asking to reset quest to say your quest is bugged and cant get the eyes buff to see the wolf?

    But meh Ive got mine.

  412. Lessara - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:40 am UTC

    So much confusion. Since no one wants to read through the comments I will put a few points that helped me:

    1. Figure out how much your Wyvern Sting ticks for. Just shoot a level 71 mob, wait 30 seconds and see how much the ticks are. (My lvl 71 ticked for 330)

    2. Just to make sure that we are on same page I unequiped any +Haste gear. This way it does not affect my times.

    3. The first tick of damage of Wyvern Sting happens at exactly 4seconds after it fades. The idea is to have that first tick of sting PUSH him over 50% where he converts and have your tame finish RIGHT when that happens. If not you have a wolf.(Some people have tried taming when third tick goes off, which is okay, just need extra time alotted)

    4. To figure out % to Sting him and what second to tame him is figured out by math:
    He has 13696 hp. He converts at 6968(50%). So with one tick he needs to push to 6968 or lower. Take 6968 + (1 tick of Wyvern Sting) = X; X/13696 = Ideal % to Sting him at. For me at lvl 71 it was 6968+330=7298; 7298/13696 = 53.3%; When I finally got him I stung him at 7250hp. So does not have to be exact, but you need just below that number.

    5. Since I am counting on first tick to push him to 50% or lower I just need 4 seconds after he wakes up. So that is with 16seconds left on Wyvern Sting I start casting Tame pet because it takes 20seconds. If you cast it right when the icon shows 16seconds that will be about 15.5sconds which is right about perfect considering lag time. If you have any haste it could screw with this time so take that under consideration.

    6. For lower levels just shoot him down to about 60%, Serpent Sting him and just kite him till he hits the % you need, just jump around and Sting him, careful though sometimes your auto-attack will catch him and you will have to feign death and reset.

    After figuring this out I got him on my second try. Good luck, can be frustrating. Took me total time 2hours and an aggravated wife.

  413. Leozero - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:49 am UTC

    @Thaellyn
    dude are you even reading the posts, dinging it does not rever it, you just fucked the timing

    and no i even asked the gm to give me the buff to see it and he said he was unable, he also replied that 2 things may happen since not everyone have a chance for it.
    they will make garwal visible afer you have the quest completed but not if you arent up to that part of the chain, or they will just make a reset the tuesday so every worgen go back to wolf.

    hope they take the first decition XO

  414. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:51 am UTC

    Well in my search to find a druid o tame i instead came upon Akkarai Hatchling and beastlore says they r tameable, hopefully they keep the ghost effect mabe. more news later.

  415. Daetur - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:51 am UTC

    He does not reset with the ‘tamed by an 80′ dings- since I am 80, and he did not reset after the tame. :) I have logged in and out several times now, and he has remained my lovely Romulus, though he does show up as a white northerend worg model on the character login screen.

    He does not reset when entering instances.

  416. riojin - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:56 am UTC

    scratch taht cannot be tamed due to being controlled

  417. Dopeman - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:01 pm UTC

    Woot I just got it last night…….WOOOOT

  418. Neiru - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:02 pm UTC

    @Lessara, post #409

    This was very helpful, thanks. After two hours on trying to tame with 14sec left on Wyvern, I tried 16. I got it on my first try, I literally jumped and unplugged my headset.

    Many thanks for these awsome tips, everyone! :)

  419. Drag - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:14 pm UTC

    aww thank you. its just a little hard to read all the post :D 415 xd

  420. Lessara - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:18 pm UTC

    @Neiru

    No problem

    @Drag

    Yeah did not mean to make myself look like a jerk. Yeah 400+ posts are alot.

  421. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:21 pm UTC

    blizzard better not change all the existing “worgens” back to normal wolfs. i mean they had glitched pets in the past and they let people who had them keep them. and its not a big deal really, its just a different skin.

  422. WorgenWooo - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:29 pm UTC

    Just got on Xavius EU, got down to 51% and used highest rank wyvern sting, started taming at just before 14 seconds left and he stayed as worgen when I tamed him. It’s all about luck, so if you don’t get first try just persist and you should get him eventually.

  423. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:37 pm UTC

    Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow & Ryai:
    Oh yeah, tear up faces. I’m letting Maxwell eat some undead as we speak in WG. AHAHAHA!

    wow 420 comments?

  424. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:41 pm UTC

    @Rikaku:
    I took Cataclysm into Wintergrasp a bit ago and he was roughing up some Rogues. One of the guys in the group was like “Holy crap man, your pet is eating a gnome alive.” I laughed and said “Of course. He’s hungry. And pissed.”

    As far as the 420 comments go — a) quite the number to be at… and b) do you think this has become a popular topic?

  425. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:43 pm UTC

    Yojimbow:
    Yeah, I sicked Maxwell on a few Shamans and one of the other melee was like “wth there’s a worgen eating the shamans face!!” I busted up.

    Yeah, this makes me think that if they don’t let people keep the worgen pet after the impending hotfix, there will be such a huge backlash…

    It’ll be like ghost wolf backlash but 1000x worse.

  426. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 12:58 pm UTC

    Rikaku, aren’t the forsaken already ripped up enough? XD

  427. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:15 pm UTC

    Ryai, it’s possible to make the undead even more… dead. I suppose.

    Rikaku, the backlash if they don’t let us keep it might be enough to actually scare Blizzard into not doing anything. There’s already enough QQing over every little nerf a class gets, could you imagine what would happen if they didn’t let us keep the worgen? Can we say “World War 3″? xD

  428. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:18 pm UTC

    aha.

    RISE UP HUNTERS. RISE UP FROM EVERY RACE AND ANY SIDE. YOUR TARGET LAYS BEFORE YOU.

    CHARGE.

    Blizzard: THIS IS MADNESS!

    NO THIS IS WARCRAFT.

    ok ok … I couldn’t help it after what Yojimbow said.

  429. bandit - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:26 pm UTC

    when the pet dies does he go to original form?

  430. Kuldak - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:26 pm UTC

    As much as I wish these to remain, even though I already did the quest while leveling and can’t tame him myself, I believe blizz will likely just revert them to wolf form. Since they are not simply mislabeled tamable, but in fact have an invisible buff that causes them to have their worgen skin, as them reverting to normal in arenas shows.

    With pets like the hydra/slime and the ghost wolf blizz could only get rid of them by physically removing them from your stable/pet slot, which they don’t want to do, but with this they just need to change the buff and they all would just revert to wolf form.

    That being said, I still wish blizz wouldn’t do this, and lets hunters keep him (or better yet, allows people who have completed the quest to somehow still see him, so they can tame him themselves), but I am not holding out hope.

  431. Truffled - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:37 pm UTC

    Has anyone tried renaming? to see if it will revert? Just curious if I give him a temp name for now (so he’s not just “Wolf”) and want to give a new one down the road if it will switch em back?

  432. Amuneta - July 5th, 2009 @ 1:53 pm UTC

    Truffled, I named mine it didn’t change.

  433. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:14 pm UTC

    Amuneta, Truffled most likely means the hunter only Renaming Scrolls inscription users can make.

  434. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:39 pm UTC

    I have a little problem now :S

    I was in the silver covenant pavilion (sp?) and a pala came up and started healing my worgen, I changed window for a sec to check something and when I came back, he had reverted to his original white wolf form! I don’t know what happened but my guess may be something to do with a pala bubble? Either way, I’m REALLY annoyed that pala’s can do that :(

    It took me over an hour to tame him :(

  435. Vern - July 5th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm UTC

    I just tamed him after 2 hours trying. Shot him to 8600hp. Then wyvern and startet taming while 8 seconds(wyvern) left.
    Actually the damage of wyvern needs 1 or 2 seconds to start. Maybe this can help you to time it.

    I love my Werewolf! ;o)

  436. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:09 pm UTC

    Ok, crisis over for me, I just got my second one xD but I’m still worried if pala’s can quite easily morph them back :S lets hope it doesn’t catch on, pala’s of hunters who didn’t get it will be very jealous which could lead to the extinction of these fine fine worgens :(

  437. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:13 pm UTC

    What what the hell just what?

    Who would DO something like that I mean that’s just sick. Tho it’s not just them, it’s ANYONE who has a paladin who hates hunters.

    Some people are just so disgusting :/

  438. Ivoire - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:16 pm UTC

    Uh oh… Now I’m scared to get off my mount in Dalaran. I could be the unsuspecting victim of a run by Worgen cleansing.

    I hope the change was triggered by something else :[ Every white wolf I see I can’t help but wonder if it was once a lovely Worgen (meaning the one I’ve seen since reading this :p)

  439. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:18 pm UTC

    Indeed, lets sure hope that that pala only did it by accident, and no-one else need to know :S

    And I’m in more of a position to comment about whether you guys deserve it or not cos I don’t even have a respectable hunter on live, I think you do deserve this pet, it’s a good one at that ;)

    (Reason I’m in more of a position is cos I don’t play a hunter, and hunters will be more bias e.g. Hunters who have done the q will be more likely to say they don’t want this to stay, Hunters who havn’t are almost definate to say keep them ^^ (and I won’t argue, it’s quite a nice pet ;)))

    Btw, to clear up, I made a premade on the PTR so it’s working there aswell :)

  440. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:23 pm UTC

    Well what spell was it that was used when your pet got healed? I mean, did you check your combat bar? I’ve literally rana bunch of heroics and had everything but a pally bubble thrown on my pet and nothing happened.

    Plus, that shouldn’t happen anyways, no pally spell has an instancing effect similar to Arena which is a reset, so perhaps there’s some unknown bug?

  441. Ryai - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:25 pm UTC

    Actually lol I’d be more inclined to be more unbiased, I have a hunter who has done the quest and I have one who hasn’t, and I want this available for everyone not taken away- or for Blizzard to allow people a chance, for those who HAVE done the quest as I would have much rather loved the worgen on Amarai, my belf.

    But then I’m a person who wants the oracle pets re-released for everyone, the sapphire hive queen and Gezz/Ghost Wolves.

    Cause Blizzard lied about the wolves- and they fooled us with Gezz :/

  442. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:29 pm UTC

    I’m still more curious about Telepathic Indian’s issue. I mean, supposedly Witted (the original worgen hunter) had this pet for 4 months. I’m positive in that time he’s had all sorts of spells cast on that pet, so what I’m trying to figure out is, it can’t be a mechanic of a Paladin spell. Since a cleanse is quite close to what Improv. Mend Pet does and let me tell ya, Imp Mend Pet doesn’t reset it.

    I’d go onto the PTR and test it, but I’m wary of the PTRs since they’ve got enough bugs as it is. I’d also tame another worgen for testing, but it took me 3 hrs to do the first time and that was without competition. @_@

  443. Xethik - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:32 pm UTC

    Has anyone had Hand of Protection cast on the Worgen? The one thing is is that this requires for the target to be in the party but…

  444. laggyhater - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:39 pm UTC

    i found that 65-67% worked the best and 12 seconds left (no haste gear, accounted for possibly lag)

    also good to note that you can simply feign or run into dragonblight to reset him if he gets too low

  445. Mania - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:51 pm UTC

    I’ve updated the post to try to pull together the most important information from the comments, although I didn’t try to cover everything by any means. I also added a link to the comments RSS feed for this post for those of you who use feed readers.

  446. Avestamoon - July 5th, 2009 @ 3:59 pm UTC

    I would think that it is highly unlikely that Blizzard would allow us hunters’ to keep this pet in its worgen form. ‘Why not ?’ , is a pretty straight forward answer really … its an exploit or a bug if you happen to not like the word exploit.

    This is in no way similar to the ghost wolf thing .. for example. Taming the ghost wolfs’ only required that you use existing game mechanics to overcome a spell casting time factor. If Blizzard happened to intend them to be tamed or not .. is not that important really.

    This requires that you take advantage of a server side lag or coding limitation. There is about a half a second window where the server flags him as a beast but his form has not shifted yet. If your tame completes in exactly that window he will not shift forms.

    This is not really any different then using your mailbox to dupe items .. disbanning your raid group in a certain way to obtain extra experience .. forming a raid group in a certain way to allow your casters to cast all their spells instantly .. duping gold .. etc. etc. etc. It is taking advantage of a glitch and using that to obtain something or to change a game mechanic in a way that was not intended. Which by definition is an exploit.

    How Blizzard chooses to handle this .. well thats still up in the air. I would emagine that every hunter would keep him. He will just revert to his wolf form either retroactively or by some event or set of events.

    Most of you where not playing when naga where tamable. You know those cool half snake half man looking things. That was simply an oversight on Blizzards part by flagging them as a beasts’. The reason for taking them away … it was never intended that hunters be able to tame them or to have pets other then those that would be considered ‘beast’ like. The point being .. Blizzard is nothing if not consistant. I would expect them to react them same way.

    Though .. he is quite a cool pet. It would be great if hunters’ where allowed to keep him but I would not count on it even for a moment.

  447. Nimrod - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:04 pm UTC

    I think Blizzard will have to think very carefully about their actions on this matter – remove the buff from the pets, and you’ll have people complaining. Leave them be, and you’ll have a lot complaining.

    It’ll be interesting to see if they remain worgen after a server reset.

  448. Eronomar - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:06 pm UTC

    I have went with a hunter and can confirm that the tank and heal spells for palidans doesnt change it back into wolf form. I casted all the buffs bubbles anything and everything … so it had to be something else that changed his wolf back .. unless im missing a spell or 2 from talent trees … but i doubt thats it.

  449. Nalain - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:10 pm UTC

    I tamed him first try. I used the ability under ESC ->Interface -> Status text to “Display Percentages” on “player”. I got him to about 57 % and then wyvern. When the timer hit 16 secs I manually pressed “Tame beast” which probably made the timer go to 15 sec. A Fanggore Wolf added in but a friendly Hunter tagged himaway from me. Now I’ve been watching that Hunter try endless times and with no succeed =( I feel so sorry for him =/

  450. Dashboard1982 - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:14 pm UTC

    Is there anyway to tame this guy if u’ve alrdy done the quest chain ?? i tried grouping with my wife and let her get the quest but only she could see him, i couldnt assist target or anything , only watch her fight an invis mob. Anyone found out anything new and if its possible to tame him if u alrdy did quest ??

  451. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:15 pm UTC

    Hhmm, if it’s not the pala then that’s good news :) but it still doesn’t explain why my worgen demorphed.

    The only event that happened was the pala casting spells on him, no-one but I was in the room and there was nothing else to attack / buff him :S

    For the sake of both my curiosity and mentality, please someone figure out what happened! :’(

  452. Eronomar - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:18 pm UTC

    I hope u guys find out… maybe it was a ret pali ? or since it was in the silver covenant pavilion… a region buff of some sort? i have duel spec so i did prot and heal spec moves… hope someone finds out what went wrong.

  453. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:25 pm UTC

    It wouldn’t be a buff, I logged in in there and went afk for 2 secs, there’s no event that would cause a pavilion buff besides on entering :(

  454. Chirri - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:32 pm UTC

    Another problem with the “pally bubble” theory is, he’d have to be grouped with you for his bubbles to hit either you or your pet, I believe. The only thing I can think of is some sort of talent or trinket proc having unforeseen consequences.

  455. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:34 pm UTC

    Avestamoon:
    “This is not really any different then using your mailbox to dupe items .. disbanning your raid group in a certain way to obtain extra experience .. forming a raid group in a certain way to allow your casters to cast all their spells instantly .. duping gold .. etc. etc. etc. It is taking advantage of a glitch and using that to obtain something or to change a game mechanic in a way that was not intended. Which by definition is an exploit.”

    I completely disagree. We cna call it an exploit, but those all have ADVANTAGES to gain from doing them. Taming this wolf that becomes a worgen has NOTHING better than if I tamed a normal Wolf. I gain nothing from it. I don’t gain a stronger than normal pet. If I tamed this worgen and he came witha special ability I can use, then yes, that would be something that’d have to be removed, but when he just becomes a wolf like everyone else except looks different, I don’t see a problem.

    Overall, really, it is like the ghost wolf. We’re using game mechanics and timers (only this time no haste) to our advantage to gain something that Blizzard had an oversight on by leaving the mob classified as a “Beast”.

    And in the long run, I don’t think they will remove it. They’ve done this practice of “Have it: get to keep it, otherwise no longer tameable” for so long now since the ghost wolf practice that I can’t see them doing anything but that. In either way, this will cause a backlash, but I don’t see how Blizzard can handle it any other way that won’t cause massive complaints about hypocrisy and cancelled accounts.

  456. Xethik - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:36 pm UTC

    I don’t think Blizzard will remove it, nor endorse it. If there truly is a way for a player to force a Worgen to become a wolf, they won’t fix that, nor will they fix the arena causing the worgen to reset. If they did, it would be almost as if they were endorsing it, saying they are encouraging players to “exploit.”

    I do hope that they do let us keep them and cause arenas/random unknown spell to reset them.

  457. Ardic - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:51 pm UTC

    Honestly I do believe bliz will remove this pet. The “Have it: get to keep it, otherwise no longer tameable”idea is what blizzard usually does, but this is THE only pet that you basically glitched a transformation. Usually with blizzard my guess why they dont just remove all the ~no longer tameble pets~ is because they DID tame it and earned it. With this bliz would just do a server swipe of the magic invis buff the thing has, you get a white wolf as your prize. My other thinking behind removing it is: Its totally BS for people who actually did the quest, usually bliz is fair and balanced with chances to get imba pets and shafting a TON of people usually makes some mad QQs. The fact its a humanoid**alone should be enough to make a hotfix of its model.

    I would love to keep mine but this is the one pet that bliz is going to have to redo in the aspect of turning your worgan into a white wolf like it was ment to be…

  458. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:53 pm UTC

    @Telepathic Indian, are you sure he reverted completely? For example, on your loading screen he shows as a normal white wolf and same if he’s in your stable. What I’m wondering is, if you tabbed to another window, maybe the graphics “bugged” similarly and showed him as a wolf, when he was really still a worgen. Did you try logging out/back in to see if it “reset” him back to worgen?

  459. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm UTC

    @ snuzzled: yeh, I tried Dismissing, relogging and stabling until I eventually went to tame my second one.

  460. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:05 pm UTC

    @Telepathic, that’s really bizzare. I don’t suppose you checked your combat log?

    Are there any items or spells that can shapeshift your pet? Like those cookies that make nomcom pets bigger? Because if the worgen form is considered a shapeshift buff, having another shapeshift buff placed on him would probably overwrite it. That’s really all I can think of!

  461. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:25 pm UTC

    I stupidly didn’t check my log, no :( but it certainly wasn’t anything of mine (unless it was automatic), he was in worgen form, I Alt + Tabbed out and when I came back, he was back to the white wolf (I didn’t cast anything before I Alt + Tabbed, either)

  462. Kuldak - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:28 pm UTC

    Rikaku:
    whether or not you get any advantage from it is besides the point, it is still bending game mechanics, at best, to allow for something that is clearly not intended, which as far as I know is a pretty clear definition of the term exploit. Is it a harmless exploit? yes, most certainly, but it is still an exploit.

    The difference between this and the ghost wolf is that the ghost wolf was accidentally mislabeled by blizz as tamable, the worgen on the other hand is not an oversight on blizz’s part, but you actually using a glitch in the way the server communicates to trick the server into letting your wolf keep his worgen buff. And as a pet that is only obtainable through use of a glitch, rather than through “legitimate” in game means, the precedents of the ghost wolf/hydra/slime, do not really apply.

  463. Avestamoon - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:45 pm UTC

    Rikaku,

    This is not using a ‘game mechanic’ in any way .. its using a flaw in coding or server side lag to do something that obviously was not intended. A ‘game mechanic’ would be like the ghost wolf taming. Hunters overcame a casting speed issue with in game items and buffs. They did not trick the server into thinking that they tamed the ghost wolfs’ faster.

    It does not matter that the player may or may not be ‘gaining’ something from it. What matters is that the player is utilizing a glitch to his/her advantage and thus accomplishing something in a manner that was not intended. TOS is very specific about this and its pretty cut and dry.

    Like I said .. some people will not like the word exploit. Simply because it automatically brings up certain assumptions. Like ‘gaining something’ or ‘getting something for nothing’. Neither of those things are happening here I agree. Though it is obviously still a glitch. It does not matter that its an popular glitch and nearly every hunter is doing it. It also does not matter that a lot of players want to keep the pet and might be upset if it was changed to a normal wolf or removed. Its Blizzards’ game. No one is entitled to anything. Blizzard has final word on everything reguardless of what a player, a group of players or the community as a whole may or may not want. Something else that is also very clear in the TOS.

    I do not want to sound preachy or sound like I am standing on some kind of a soap box. Im’ not. I am simply calling it what it is. Nearly everyone .. including most of the hunters that have tamed him in this manner are excepting the fact that its a glitch. All of them are hoping that Blizzard will be nice and allow them to keep the worgen form. If it where not being done by using a glitch … I would be inclinded to agree with you but thats not the case here.

    In the end .. its all just a bunch of supposition and assumtions. No one knows what Blizzard will decide to do. We will have to wait and see. However, not seeing it for what it is, is just dumb. All that will do is get everyone thinking that Blizzard is going to let this just slide by. When .. historically speaking .. they probably are not. We are not talking about a oversight on Blizzards’ part with a creature being flagged as a beast or an oversight on their part about how fast someone might be able to cast a tame given the right equipment and buffs. What most probably is happening here is a lag in communication with the data server. Which would not be a ‘game mechanic’.

    We will see soon enough. Who knows I could be totally wrong .. I accept that. Opinions are like ********. Everyone has one and they all stink.

  464. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:50 pm UTC

    Kuldak:
    I don’t think the ghost wolf was mis-labelled at all. Blizzard intentionally left it as a beast (as they were spirit guides, not undead wolves according to lore). The only thing was, Blizzard didn’t anticipate crafty Hunters to haste their way to make a 20 second spell drop down to 7.5 secs. So that’s more of a reason for them to go “ok, no taming that from now on, untameble” and not just default it to tameable.

    I still fail to see how this is a “worgen buff”. It’s not a buff at all. It’s a transformation sequence Blizzard put into the game on their own accord. Unfortunately, they didn’t have the hindsight to make this pet have 2 transformations in his code. We’re not tricking the server, we’re just using the one-transformation only code to select which skin we want, technically speaking. We’re not doing anything different then what we did with the ghost wolf. We’re using tame beast, on a mob labelled as beast, using a spell properly (Wyvern Sting) and using the mechanics as such. If this worg suddenly turned into a ghost worg instead of a worgen, I seriously doubt people would still be saying this is different than the ghost wolf; the problem is, a good deal is viewing this as a humanoid being tamed when we’re just selecting which skin we want our wolf to have.

    Though, the phrasing “obtainable only through a glitch” is sort of…i cant think of a proper word, but broad fits I think. In the sense, I mean broad, that, we’re not obtaining anything that wasn’t intended other than his appearance. Check the codes. If I tamed Garwal as a regular worg, his file shows up as the following.

    Now, as a Worgen owner, here is my own personal code for Garwal as a worgen.

    These codes are, in fact, identical. So I’m saying that it isn’t that we’re obtaining a pet in a glitch. Garwal is obtainable and the server reads him as the same thing regardless of whether Worgen or not. The only difference is, this one looks like a humanoid. So to the people saying it’s an invisible “layer” of having a worgen, it’s not. It’s a CODING TRANSFORMATION issue, not a “once the buff is removed no more worgen for you” issue that Blizzard can use to remove the worgens.

    But what other precedent can Blizzard use? Maybe they don’t want to, but froma representative standpoint, how else are they going to pull this off? I don’t see them removing the worgens from people without removing the normal Garwal worgs (since the server reads the codes identically); that would be extremely unfair to the players who have normal-Garwal worgs and suddenly login one morning to find their worg gone. And how will they go through and change all the Garwal files to know who has a worg-garwal and who doesn’t? I mean, sure, they do have the man-power and will to do it; but the question is will they do it knowing that this will cause a huge backlash in the entire community?

    The ghost wolf hurt Blizzard badly, and not just from Hunters. They really did suffer a public reputation loss to a large degree; that is why players now get to keep their retired pets. It’s not because they want to be fair and say “ok you kept it”, its because its the only way they can find middle ground without the crushing blow they got last time. In the (majority) publics eye, the ghost wolf precedent is a universal precedent and how Blizzard will find a middle ground between middle ground is beyond me.

  465. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:50 pm UTC

    The two codes respectfully that were supposed to be in the top post.

  466. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:51 pm UTC

    pet catId=”23″ family=”Wolf” familyId=”1″ icon=”ability_hunter_pet_wolf” level=”77″ name=”Maxwell” type=”Garwal” Normal Garwal wolf code.

    pet catId=”23″ family=”Wolf” familyId=”1″ icon=”ability_hunter_pet_wolf” level=”77″ name=”Maxwell” type=”Garwal” Worgen Garwal Wolf code.

    it keeps cutting me off @_@

  467. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:54 pm UTC

    pet catId=”23″ family=”Wolf” familyId=”1″ icon=”ability_hunter_pet_wolf” level=”75″ name=”Wolf” type=”Garwal”
    Normal Garwal wolf code I MEANT to put up in there from my alt. Gah I suck D=

  468. Kerunos - July 5th, 2009 @ 5:55 pm UTC

    Here is how it works.

    After you start the taming the mob is asleep.
    Once that breaks the dot kicks in and slowly brings the mob to the trigger script.
    Once the script happens the tame should be comeplete, the mob is considered yours.
    But the trigger script is still going and applys the server-side model change invis-buff directly to your pet.

  469. Steffi - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:01 pm UTC

    Has anyone tamed him as a BM spec Hunter using Explosive trap as the DOT: “burning all enemies for 740 additional Fire damage over 20 sec to all within 10 yards” ?

  470. Clown - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:08 pm UTC

    the fact of the matter is, because of the way it is coded it is highly unlikely blizzard will be able to remove from those who have already obtained the worgen. yes they will be able to remove the ability to time this correctly and receive one but simply enough it is very very unlikely that they will be able to remove it from those who have already received it.

  471. Xethik - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:11 pm UTC

    It would be quite simple to reset the pets. Just run all players and pets through a buff clear on a Tuesday patch-day morning. Make it do what happens when you walk into an arena match. Then your worgen would become two letters shorter.

  472. Mania - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:15 pm UTC

    Until Blizzard tells us what they are going to do — or does it — we only have speculation. However, please do remember to keep things respectful and impersonal as we speculate at each other. :> (Not that anyone hasn’t been, but I have to admit that 400+ comments make me nervous. I hope the new server survives this … )

  473. Illia - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:15 pm UTC

    I just managed to get him on my second attempt as level 71 (my main has unfortunately completed the quest so I spent 2 days levelling my alt like mad so she could have a worgen pet!) I found I had to get him to around 52% before hitting Wyvern – on the first go he was at 58%, and didn’t even transform before the tame finished – oops >.> The second time he nearly ate me when he woke up because I forgot to use a pot, I had about 5% health left at the end…

    I’m really interested to see what happens with these though. I think if it does get hotfixed it’ll probably be during the reset on Wednesday, so I guess we’ll have to wait and see. He looks AWESOME, though – gonna take him to the PTR tomorrow and throw everything I can think of at him to see if anything breaks the worgen form. Now I just need to name him… :P

  474. Spleenripper - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:17 pm UTC

    Steffi, he cannot be trapped at all.

  475. Nissi - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:18 pm UTC

    Has anyone copied their hunter to the PTR since taming him? There was a report that all “on spawn” effects were removed. ie no Strange Glow on the Vicious Moths and the like. Would this removal effect the Worgen as well?

  476. Nenva - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:24 pm UTC

    Heya if anyone is on the PTR and is playing allie add me
    my guys name is “offspring”
    could use some help/advice on taming him

  477. Kuldak - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:24 pm UTC

    Rikaku:
    The two are the exact same because the 2 wolves are the same, one just has an invisible buff, that makes it look like a worgen. If it were just a skin then going into arenas (and having them forcibly remove all buffs) wouldn’t revert the worgen to a wolf. As far as it not being a glitch, you can’t start the tame after he transforms, and you can’t (as far as I know) start the tame and have someone else immediately bring him to transform and complete teh tame after he’s been a worgen a few seconds. You have to have the tame complete at the same time as the transformation, so the server registers the tame while it is still applying the transformation. That is clearly a glitch in the way the server communicates with the client, it is nothing like stacking haste to get a ghost wolf.

    Because there is a clear difference between the methods of obtaining one from the other the precedents from one do not apply to the other, that’s like saying using spell steal to get a buff that is unintended is the same as hacking the server to give your character the same buff. They achieve similar results, but one is clever use of game mechanics and the other is a violation of the ToS.

  478. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:26 pm UTC

    @Avestarnoon: If he used a humanoid model that Blizzard did not want us having, then he should have been labelled as such or made untameable. That’s my personal belief. By them leaving the label as a beast and leaving him tameable, it was bound to happen that someone, someday would find a way to tame the worgen form he has. Common sense says that.

    It’s not as though we were exploiting something in the server by taming something that wasn’t normally able to be tamed. That, I feel would be a true exploit… a hunter running around with a pet wyvern or a pet satyr. This, I feel, IS a mistake along the same lines as the ghost wolf. “Oops, we didn’t know you could do that. Our bad. We should have made him untameable or humanoid.”

    Now, that doesn’t mean I am not fully expecting him to be taken away. I am, actually, though I will be sad when they do so. However, to say that we are exploiting is I feel harsh. Would you call wall-walkers exploiters? Would you call it exploiting when you could blink into Old Ironforge? Blizzard, through oversight or coding issue, left some things doable. The fact that players then DO these things is just human nature.

    (Of course, I am not trying to use the old “i am because I can” argument. I just think that calling something an exploit when it was something easily doable through regular game mechanics is a bit harsh. I’m trying to explain a point and I think failing miserably. I need to get some more food in me, and try again. lol)

  479. llia - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:56 pm UTC

    Conforming on PTR (3.2) is still working :D
    I tame him on PTR Time : GTM 1+ 00:48

  480. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 6:58 pm UTC

    I hope blizzard lets the people keep the pet if they already tamed it and just make people cannot tame it ever again. i mean its not game breaking, its no different then any other wolf then skin. i mean whats the difference between this and other glitched pets? either way they were all glitched/blizzard didnt intend for you to tame them.

  481. Karmagedon - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:05 pm UTC

    I got him! And until I read that this was some kind of “cheat” I thought of it as a wily move for a hunter to tame a creature that looks human but is a beast (I know some in real life….). As hunters, we HUNT creatures and are always on the lookout for pets. If some of them take extreme measures to tame, I am all for it. If they then become untameable, ok I get that. But don’t take pets away from people. Yeah, I ache inside when I see a spirit wolf, but at the same time, my hydra and my worgen are my weird pets. It keeps us from all having the same pets. I say give us more! Now to name the lovely beast….

  482. Misfortune - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:05 pm UTC

    Just tamed him on Malfurion. Misfortune L.71 Alliance Hunter. Had some help from a couple of horde characters and even had one log onto an alliance toon to tell me exactly what the three horde characters did in order to tame him three times in a row.

    Now, if Blizzard decides to revert every one of the tamed ones back to worg form… I want Blizzard to take away all of the other pets that people still have but are no longer tameable. Like the Ghost Wolf, the three summoned mobs from Sholazar Basin (slime, hydra, and croc), and the few others I can’t think of right now. =P

  483. Rundas - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:24 pm UTC

    I know many people are going to get mad, the people who were lucky enough to tame him will say that any hunter who did this quest had the chance to tame him just like any of us. The people who didn’t get it are gonna say its exploiting server lag or something along those line and with this guy if youve done the quest your done nothing anyone can do. If blizz lets everyone keep it I’d be happy for everyone that tamed em. People will get mad. Really i wouldn’t be too suprised if I looked into my stable tmrw and saw that my hydra was a croc.

  484. bimblewicket - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:31 pm UTC

    so hey…straying from the depressing topics of losing our precious worgen, what are you guys naming yours? :D

  485. Misfortune - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:56 pm UTC

    Named mine Lon. There is a great reference there…

  486. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:56 pm UTC

    @Nenva: Which server, I’ll help you as much as possibble while rubbing your face in the fact that I have one xD

    @bimblewicket: Fluffstickles

  487. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 7:57 pm UTC

    Typo and I just noticed how bad that first part sounded ;P I meant it in a joking around way ;)

  488. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:01 pm UTC

    @Mania:
    400+ comments… and most of them came from me, Rikaku and Ryai. xD

    @Bimblewicket:
    Cataclysm.

    @Telepathic Indian:
    Rubbing his face in it isn’t bad. Making your worgen eat his face is, however. :D

  489. tony - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:02 pm UTC

    Whatever happens I hope blizz allows players who already have this pet to keep it, just as they have with the ghostwolf and the slime/hydras etc. It really would not seem fair to allow players to keep those pets, and not this one, if and when blizz possibly makes garwal untameable.

  490. Xiongmao - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:03 pm UTC

    I named mine Lupin.

  491. Toresh - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:03 pm UTC

    I went back today and film a quick video of how to do it, and also posted a guide on my web site if any one needs more help.

    Http://www.huntthis.net

  492. Toresh - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:05 pm UTC

    I went back today to film a quick video of how to tame him, and i also have posted a how to guide on my blog.
    Click on my name for the link.

  493. Jeanos - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:05 pm UTC

    I posted a video of the tame on the weekend on http://hunter.gamingfaces.net/

    “This video was taken on the 4th July on the Nagrand server. The spec used was survival. Several attempts were made using a BM spec but it’s impossible with out the 6 sec serpent sting glyph due to sting times (if your BM you need the glyph of serpent sting or switch to SV for easy mode.” video is in HD

  494. Jeanos - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:08 pm UTC

    I posted a video on the weekend on my site of me taming it its on hunter dot gamingfaces dot net

    ” This video was taken on the 4th July on the Nagrand server. The spec used was survival. Several attempts were made using a BM spec but it’s impossible with out the 6 sec serpent sting glyph due to sting times (if your BM you need the glyph of serpent sting or switch to SV for easy mode.”

  495. Kahvi - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:09 pm UTC

    I agree, this is the way that Blizzard do things now… so lets hope they will keep the same method here (even though it is humanoid).

    I helped a few hunters get their Ghost Wolf (with my shammy), but my own hunter wasnt high enough level at the time.. and I was in no rush as Blizzard had announced they wouldnt make it untamable. Its about time I get to share the fun ;)

  496. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:09 pm UTC

    “Making your worgen eat his face is, however. :D”
    Good idea…. Good idea….
    >: D

  497. Nenva - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:14 pm UTC

    gonna name mine Bulter, when i get’em. tryin for 2 days but im gonna get him!

  498. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:21 pm UTC

    Someone should ask a GM what blizzard might do in this situation. even if the GM doesnt really know have a anwser, it was worth a try. and BTW if you ask a GM tell them that hunter who have it should be able to keep it =P

  499. itzzmlgkaiser - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:22 pm UTC

    sorry for the typos, but you all still understand what im saying, right?

  500. joecool7 - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:30 pm UTC

    k i read all the posts and whether its a glitch or not, the bottom, line that in all the other pets not meant to be tamed, EVERY hunter had a chance to tame it no matter how hard, as long as they had a hunter the right level. However, in this case lots of hunters did the quest before it was found out (like me, who bought wrath at the first chance and leveled in flord), and thus there’s a conflict of fairness. I think it’s either made briefly tamable where everyone can see it then not tameable, or revert all tamed worgens back to wolf form.

  501. joecool7islame - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:33 pm UTC

    @joecool7
    they call that being a sore loser

  502. mononoki - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:36 pm UTC

    hi all
    i discovered a great way last night after trying 30 min alone while som1 was looking at my trys i asked him to help me.(im a mm btw) my plan is very simple and easy i dmg a bit the pet serpent sting it and start taming it. the taming can go from 65%-75% or so. the trick is that if u go with som1 he can see your taming time when he points the wolf. so all he needs to do is to dps the wof in the time the taming is over.growl(i think thats his name) transform at 49%-51% so if u bring him to that stage at the same moment u finish taming hes all yours. it will take a few trys to do it. my partner needed alote of trys .for me it took like 5-7 trys i think. and boom he has it.

  503. Kalta - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:36 pm UTC

    Ya they do :/

  504. vetiver - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:38 pm UTC

    After staying up til almost 5 in the morning taking turns with several hunters, I finally got him! I named him Hotfix. :D

  505. Shylmara - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:42 pm UTC

    I think, as in the past, we should be allowed to keep our Worgen. This isn’t an easy tame. Others were not able to get the trio of “Crocs” nor were they able to get the Ghost wolf.

    The worgen is also one of the few supposed humanoids that are skinnable. (Aside from the Yeti.) My attitude has always been if it is skinnable, it truly isn’t humanoid as THAT would be barbaric. (yes, I play on an rp server. Late at night these odd discussions do come up.)

    If the worgen goes back to wolf form then I will simply drop the wolf. I don’t like the new wolf molds and never had an interest in taming any of the canines other than the ghost wolf.

    I will not be surprised by Blizzard’s decision either way. I just truly hope I can keep him. I named him Wolverine.

  506. Xxam - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:42 pm UTC

    Tbh the post above this would be very unfair for blizzard to change the skin so it looks like a normal wolf just because you mised it mate but hey ho.
    Another piece of advice to taming (i got this btw 1st time) is to take off all your haste gear so anything with haste on it take it off whilst you follow the guides at the top of this page – it is an awesome pet and be prepared to be whispered about 40 – 50 times a day when you are on your hunter, it gets a bit annoying, but to have it is worth it.
    I also hope hope that Blizzard lets us keep it as it is even if they decide to change so that for future it is not tameable.

  507. CobraLily - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:42 pm UTC

    Any update on Pallies buffs and heals and bubbles? I’m on a 80 pally and trying to find one in AV to try all theses things to see if they will debuff the Worgen.

  508. Telepathic Indian - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:47 pm UTC

    @CobraLily: We established that it wasn’t the pala who did it but we’re still unsure what did actually do it.
    Although please don’t go round trying to demorph peoples Worgens, it’s seriously a sick thing to do, even if you’re trying to find out if pala’s can do it.

  509. joecool7 - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:52 pm UTC

    to the other joecool, no thats just what ive put together from the posts, where GMs have said those 2 option. While it’s a cool pet, i have the hydra, both SB, and the 2 mob only cat, it’s not the end of the world if blizz doesnt make it tameable for a week like mentioned in an above post, im just saying this situation is different where hunters who have complketed the quest have literally hotfixed it themselve in regards to them taming it, and ya, the backlash from this will be way worse since any hunter had the chance to tame the ghost wolf, while here it defends on if you did a quest.

  510. Nissi - July 5th, 2009 @ 8:56 pm UTC

    @joecool7

    Thats the kicker though … every hunter DID have a chance to tame this. Just because we did not know how to do it until now does not mean he hasn’t been tamable all along. Just because someone managed to figure out it was doable this late in the game doesn’t mean Blizzard needs to turn back time for you.

    Many hunters on my server wanted to get a hydra or a slimer. However, the fact that the quest didnt show up for nearly 2.5 weeks didn’t help them get one. Some things should be rare. While I feel sorry for those hunters that did this quest while leveling, I also feel sorry for the hunter’s like myself who went and got everything setup for a run at a Ghost Wolf, only to have it yanked from under them suddenly by Blizzard.

    They will most likely end up making Garwal untameable on Monday morning. No more Worgen will be tamed and this will go down in WoW history as another abjuration. How many ghost wolves and hydra/slimers do you see running around? At first a huge amount, and now not so many. The pet population will rebalance itself in a few months.

  511. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:01 pm UTC

    @Nissi, we cannot confirm that he has been tameable all along. It may very well be that a rogue bit of coding patched in here or there made him tameable only recently. While we can *assume* he was tameable all along, we just don’t know for sure.

    We *do* know however that there was extensive testing when he was first implemented to try to get a worgen pet, and no one was successful. That so many people tried to tame him and no one even accidentally hit the magic “sweet spot” sooner than this is a bit hard to believe, don’t you think?

    I’m not saying your other points aren’t valid, though.

  512. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:01 pm UTC

    When I say tameable, I mean tameable as a worgen form, and not to have him revert back to his wolf after taming.

  513. Sono - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:08 pm UTC

    Finally managed to tame mine after a quite a few hours of waiting for the 55 ganking Horde to go to bed. ;-).

    But to be honest I really do not see this going well. I suspect any day now to log on and find it reverted back to the Wolf skin. And why when they allowed us to keep our Ghost Wolfs. Well because what makes the Worgen look like that is a buff and not so much a skin, The ghost wolf atleast looks like a wolf the worgen on the other hand nothing like. Blizzard can simply hot fix this by turning off the buff as you will still have the pet just with no buff.

    Not too mention that there are already more Worgens getting around then there ever was Ghost Wolfs and that is probably the biggest reason they will change it you can let fly an oddity when a hand full of hutners have it but when such a large portion of the community will end up with one then it only increases the chances of a nerf.

    It may be harder to tame then the Ghost Wolf but requires far less effort.

    But we can only hope :)

  514. Rikaku - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:14 pm UTC

    I find it a little amusing when people say that they’ve got so many worgens on their server already. It’s been days now and so far only 2 hunters on my realm are there and we did it at the same time practically XD

    And there’s a ton of ghost wolves on my realm though. It’s crazy! Regular duskwood worgs are rarer than ghost wolves on my backwards realm XD

  515. Juliesta - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:22 pm UTC

    Good news and bad. Just taimed him on Khadgar as a BM hunter, using Serpeant Sting as he got to about 9K health. Started training immediately and he changed when he got down to the health trigger point (didn’t see exact point… kinda busy) :).
    Bad news was that I was a 79 hunter when I did it. Immediately training completed, he lvl to withing 5 of my lvl, and that changed him back into a Worg. This must be the issued identified above about ‘leveling’, but it sounds like from other posts, if he lvls normally with the hunter, that won’t happen.
    Good Luck!

  516. texaz - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:24 pm UTC

    done it with my lvl 71 dwarfhunter, be sure as a lvl 71 dps Garwal to 52,xx % use sting and start taming at exactly 15sec left on sting! i repeat it 3 times and it is a sure tame if you remember the 52%/15sec as lvl71 !

    now i have to decide if i use the worgen or the legendary ghostwolf :/

    worgen:
    http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8513/lvl71hunterworgenpet.jpg

    ghostwolf:
    http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3238/lvl70hunterghostwolfpet.jpg

    regards from germany

  517. Sono - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:31 pm UTC

    No that’s not the case I tamed one and I’m 80 it jumped to lv75 i suspect you where jsut a tad off. You can also get a Surv hunter to Wyvern it for you once you get it to your desired %HP and have them FD. suspect you timing was very close but not quite.

    and @ Juliesta on my Server last night if you went out to the spawn location there was about 10 hunters at any time with one getting tamed every 10-15 minutes. It only got quiet at like 5am and still there where 3 or 4 out there try to tame. And as for the Ghost Wolf I can go days with out seeing one in Dalaran sometimes. But to get this Worg it simply takes timing and patients unlike like the Ghost Wolf that required some decent friends of the right class and some gold. So give it a few days and there will be more Worgs then DK’s on your server :-).

  518. texaz - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:32 pm UTC

    my previous comment looks like kind a crazy formating thing^^
    here the original post, hope it will be displayed rigth this time:

    done it with my lvl 71 dwarfhunter, be sure as a lvl 71 dps Garwal to 52,xx % use sting and start taming at exactly 15sec left on sting! i repeat it 3 times and it is a sure tame if you remember the 52%/15sec as lvl71 !

    now i have to decide if i use the worgen or the legendary ghostwolf :/

  519. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:47 pm UTC

    @Texaz, I did 58% and 14s as a level 71. It still varies :p

  520. Gelannerai - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:50 pm UTC

    I apologize if this has already been covered, but has anyone investigated the Frenzied Worgen in UP? Pretty sure he’s classified as a beast.

  521. mononoki - July 5th, 2009 @ 9:51 pm UTC

    guys can som1 plz write once and for all in big letters. can i level him up till 80 and he will stay like that?im level 80 and hes now level 75. and im freaking dont know if i can safly level him up or not????????????

  522. Clown - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:03 pm UTC

    I LEVELED MINE TO 80 AND IT IS FINE DONT WORRY BOUT IT DUDE

  523. Thrain - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:10 pm UTC

    Just tamed him on Ravencrest EU, took around 20 attempts, resetting with FD each time. I used wyvern sting rank 3, at lvl 71, with some heirloom gear and quest greens/blues. Stung him at 51% hp, and waited til 14 seconds. A hunter was watching nearby, and I also gave him this tip, and he got it in one go!

  524. Kabuki - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:11 pm UTC

    When I first saw a hunter with this pet, I was WOW that is cool, I asked him where he got it and he just ignored me. What a douche,(I would be proud to show him off and talk about him) so instead I proceeded to look it up and found this site about it. Unfortunately for me I completed all the quests so I am unable to get him, but I would like to be able to get one. and I feel that those who had the hindsight to try to tame him originally, deserve to keep him.

    I would like to see all those hunters who have completed the quest to be able to get him also, But that will never happen. Blizzard doesn’t give a flying fluk about whether we get a cool looking pet model, all they want is your money. So I seriously doubt they will allow any hunters who have completed this quest to get him and as stated many posts before make him untamable.

    Gratz to those that got him I am envious and happy for you.

  525. huntertame - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:12 pm UTC

    I love my pet Worgen.

    Pic:

    http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4683/dalaran.jpg

    Video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf4PKsd2Oz8

  526. Leozero - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:19 pm UTC

    dde wtf is wrong with ppl, they arent reading the posts or what? we just keep getting the “oh im 80 so when it dinged it reverted to worg, i guess the ding revert it…”

    ffs it doesnt i have seen ppl from 71 to 80 tame it and have it as worgen, if you got it as wolf then you just messed the timing.

    i tried anoter gm ticket and again they gave me the answer we cant reset the quest nor give you the buff perhaps were workign on the issue so we end with a fair end to all hunters” whatever that last part mean

  527. Deiwrot - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:20 pm UTC

    I have found that 53% is a much easier number to work with, having tamed 3 of him now in Worgen form. You have to time it just right to get it. Also, on my home server, both Alliance and Horde are trying to get him. Because of this there are often 3 or 4 hunters of mixed factions there. For people on a “Normal” server (PVE) please do everyone there a favor and be polite. Wait in line for your turn, and don’t forget, if things don’t go good, Feign Death.

  528. Deiwrot - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:21 pm UTC

    PS the “Fair to all hunters” part means that, if you keep pushing the issue, then they will remove the worgen form from ALL hunters who have worked hard to get him to be in that form … that’s usually how Blizzard works.

  529. Kivrin - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:33 pm UTC

    Does anyone know if Stable Leveling is safe? That is, can someone tame him at 71, level up to 80, and then pull him out (making him 75) safely?

  530. Jaegeraus - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:38 pm UTC

    Tamed!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1_pelxktms

    Very cool. Haven’t tested any of the stable/BG/instance yet, but I trust it will keep him as a Worgen.

  531. Dia - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:39 pm UTC

    Got mine on the third try after watching another hunter do it. Some tips:

    1. If you’re lvl 80, take off most your gear so you do less damage.

    2. Attack with a fishing pole or the lance from the tournament… again, the less damage you do, the better. Biggest problem I see people having is overkill taking him past 51-52%

    3. Feign Death can save you a LOT of time waiting for respawns. If you damage him past 50%, just feign and try again. The other hunters out there will undoubtedly appreciate the time savings.

    4. Take turns with the other hunters out there. Keep in mind that a ticked off player can really ruin your day by killing the wolf while you attempt to tame it.
    ———————————-

    As a fairly well-geared 80, I stopped dpsing at 52%, cast Wyvern Sting, and started the tame between 15 and 14 seconds remaining on the sting. Sure enough, he changed just after my tame finished.

    For those of you saying this tame is more difficult than the ghost wolf… I’m going to assume you never tried to tame the ghost wolf. This one was a LOT easier imo. Even after I got everything I needed to tame the spirit guide I still spent 3+ hours trying to get it just right. I had to bribe my shaman and priest into staying longer. Got him tamed just when I was considering giving up.

    Anyways, I’d be willing to bet a rather large amount of gold on this pet being taken away. As previously mentioned, all bliz has to do is remove the buff. I’m sure we’ll get a line from bliz on tuesday that states something akin to “The previously tamable quest npc Garwal has once again transformed back into its true wolf form. After much consideration, the development team has decided that the worgen skin did not match the intended design of hunter pets and the hunter class in general. Those who tamed this creature will still be able to keep it, however its skin will revert back into a wolf. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Sincerely, screw you”

  532. Leozero - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:39 pm UTC

    yeah thats what im guessing, the usual way would be easily making garwal visible to players who completed the quest and then making garwal untameable one week or two after, i dont think thy would reset it to all hunters perhaps a gm pointed me that would be a solution

  533. Maui - July 5th, 2009 @ 10:49 pm UTC

    If they take away the worgen, they ought to give all worgenless hunters their choice of a slime, a hydra, a ghost wolf, or Gezzie, imo. :|

    (Please don’t take this post seriously, it just seemed like a nice pipe dream. :])

  534. Truffled - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:10 pm UTC

    Just a suggestion to those doing too much damage or having trouble with the kiting. What I did (Level 71) was tame a throwaway wolf and let the wolf dps him (don’t forget to turn off Cower), only throwing in a few Arcane Shots here and there, making sure I WASN’T auto attacking. Keep Mend Pet up constantly on the throwaway. Once he hits the desired %, hit Passive, abandon pet, and zap Garwal with the Wyvern. Since the pet does so little damage it’s real easy to get him to the exact % you want AND not have to kite him around, agroing who knows what else, or WORSE, possibly going out of the zone.

  535. altoholic - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:19 pm UTC

    Hi, having tamed him yesterday I am the proud owner of “hotfixedsoon”, my new worg skinned wolf.

    I was very happy to see so many hunters working together on my realm. We all qued up, (literally in a line haha) waiting our turn. I am horde and even the alliance were civil and waited their turn.

    Many of us tried above method and it was dodgy at best and indeed harder than the spirit wolf we tamed many months ago.

    Here is what we did. aotv, unequiped a 2h if we were using one and dw anything or just unarmed hit the mob to 51% – start taming. a 2nd hunter (or any class, we just had millions of hunters there) waits until your tame cast bar is at 1 or 2 seconds left and simply attacks the wolf – i did it for another hunter got it first time, he then did it for me and it took about 4 times i think. hope this helps

  536. Scott - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:22 pm UTC

    Not sure what Blizzard is gonna do about this but my spider sense tells me Garwal’s days as a tameable pet may be numbered, if the spirit wolf is any barometer of their intentions re: this sort of thing, so I figured I’d give it a try if only so I wouldn’t be kicking myself 2 days later when the window of opportunity had past…

    With a lot of perserverence I finally managed to get one, about 10 mins before I’d planned on calling it quits! Dia’s notes (#526) pretty much describe my own findings (and forebodings…), although it took me quite a lot longer to manage it.

    So now after logging in and out several times to reassure myself the thing is still there, and taking a bunch of screenshots just in case, I’m now trying to force myself to unclench my fingers from the keyboard and walk away from the PC – after all that feverish effort it’s hard to admit that at this point the only thing left to do is chill out and hope Blizzard doesn’t go too crazy with the nerfbat…

  537. snuzzled - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:23 pm UTC

    @Dia, it’s scary just how much that sounded like a real blue post, you sure you don’t work for Blizz? >>

  538. Darbie - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:25 pm UTC

    its gonna boil down to people crying and saying its not fair, thats the only reason blizz will hotfix it.if you want one bad enough reroll

  539. Neinna - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:37 pm UTC

    Just tamed mine and posted pictures ( http://insane-maniac-albedo.deviantart.com/art/HELL-YEAH-WEREWOLF-128434050 )

    Casted tame 1/2 way through 12 sec remaining on Wyvern rank 6.

    TRIED FOR 2 HOURS. upwards of 7 hunters in the area, waiting.

  540. Shadowbark - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:37 pm UTC

    After been working for hours on this tonight, I’ve ended my grind at 12:30am my time after a rogue thinking that it would expedite his questing if he simply kills my Garwal just as I get him to perfect Sting range and Disengage to Sting. I’m flying back, hit Sting and suddenly I see Deadly Poison…………………. I firmly told him off without swearing, then put in a harassment ticket before logging in my sleep-deprived rage….. too much time staring at the screen constantly trying to tame…. ran out of attempt-counts and now thanks to that rogue I don’t even recall what % I’ve worked out to be -my- sweet spot.

    Level 73 Alliance Hunter – Icecrown-US

  541. Kaos - July 5th, 2009 @ 11:46 pm UTC

    Jw, I’ve done the quest and all, theres absolutely no way for me to get him right? Not even /assist ing someone on the quest targetting him?

  542. Xethik - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:02 am UTC

    No way possible at this point, sorry.

  543. yazzla - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:06 am UTC

    it makes me want to cry that im just 5 levels away but it will probably be too late by then. I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!

  544. Dia - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:08 am UTC

    lol! No snuzzled, I don’t work for the big blue. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! ;)

    Bliz said something really similar when they nerfed the Grimtotem Spirit Guide. “Doesn’t fit the intended feel of the class” and all that jazz.

    Best,
    Dia

  545. icerapter - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:18 am UTC

    my hunter just got to lvl 60 today. i’m hoping to get to 71 really quick and then tame it before it’s fixed.

  546. icerapter - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:20 am UTC

    also i would like to ask all of you hunters who have the pet to not boast about it everywhere and show it off everywhere you go. if u do it will most likely be fixed very soon. and i would want to keep my worgen pet if i had one.

  547. Hoogabooga - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:23 am UTC

    I’ve seen a post or two about Gar’s worgen skin being a buff, like a spell with an icon that doesn’t show up. So, something just hit me– if a player or a mob uses an ability that makes you lose a buff, could that be used on this pet and make the worgen skin go away? Just a thought.

  548. Hoogabooga - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:31 am UTC

    Also, as a way to help reduce some of the damage you do, you can get a few wolves on you and let them eat you alive. Then, rez at the spirit healer and get back to Garwal’s tame location quick :D don’t try this if you got a small amount of gold, high repair bills, or a really slow mount. Slow mounts mean you get there later, which means less attempts, and that means you gotta let yourself die more, and then things just stack up and you feel like smashing your neighbor’s window with a club made from oranges in a biiig sock :D

  549. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:32 am UTC

    ‘Bliz said something really similar when they nerfed the Grimtotem Spirit Guide. “Doesn’t fit the intended feel of the class” and all that jazz.’

    Blizzard did say they were leaving them in tho :/

    And you know this coming from the people who let us tame rotting, dying animals. Fel/Demon touched creatures. Corrupted creatures. Dinosaurs. Crocodilains.. or however it’s spelled.

    Yeah… A ghostly wolf doesn’t fit the hunter image…

  550. Hoogabooga - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:33 am UTC

    I know I’m kinda leaving a long string buuut… I just thought a few might be confused about my last post >_> rez at the spirit healer for rez sickness :D ok, I’m done… for now >_> *Evil cackle*

  551. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:35 am UTC

    @ Iceraptor

    When asked, I tell where and how I got it. I have nothing to hide. Don’t ask us to not show off a pet that will most likely be fixed. I’ve just come to realise this and have given up power leveling my orc for the moment, took a day to get from 62-65, and I’m struggling to stay sane as I need 6 more levels.

    It’s going to be fixed most likely ANYWAYS. With how many posts, how many people asking for ONE quest to be fixed? and then talking to game mods and etc? And you think us hiding our worgen will stop that?

    It won’t.

  552. SilvermoonHunter - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:35 am UTC

    I am 80 and tamed this worgen, he did go to 75 safely without any reset back to wolf form. I leveled him to 76 today just fine. Also he died and i revived him as worgen. Stable is safe as well. I have not bg’d yet with him for fear of losing it. Hope this helps, might be late on this one but saw some people still had questions.

  553. Gefina - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:40 am UTC

    ______________EASIER WAY TO DO THIS____________

    Instead of buggering around with the sting timing, get someone who hasn’t done the quest, and can hit over 2k. Dps him to 60%, tame pet, have your friend make a focus of you, when the tame beast is sub 1 second, instant cast nuke the wolf

    gz on the pet.

  554. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:44 am UTC

    Gefina, sting taming is for soloing it. You’re doing what’s been said countless times if you CAN’T get the taming down right.

    SilvermoonHunter: Mania updated the guide. Arena and ONLY Arena, kills Garwal’s form atm.

  555. Chavelo - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:45 am UTC

    Got the awesome Worg after an hour of failed attempts, horde screwing things up and then licking me, and mana running out.

    I used serpent sting method on him. Not THAT hard… Just gotta makes sure you align the serpent sting along with the tame beast.
    GET THE SERPENT STING GLYPH, FOLKS!

    Hurry before Tuesday!

  556. Sarrik - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:55 am UTC

    To whoever was wondering if the Certificate of Ownership used to rename your pet will cause the worgen to revert -

    I can confirm that as of approximately 12:45 EST on Baelgun, it does NOT cause your worgen to revert to worg skin. Feel free to rename him as you please.

  557. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:57 am UTC

    Ryai:
    Same, I say where and how I got it when someone asks. Though, someone once got mad at me cause I didn’t answer them. Well, in my defense, I was afk (but before the afk tag auto-pops up) when they asked and when I got back they already logged ^^;

  558. Syris - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:08 am UTC

    Got mine, after a long time trying. A Night Elf hunter really slowed the whole thing down after failing at it for over two hours…but eventually, after carefully watching what happened on my failures I was able to get it down. 51% and hitting the tame when my wyvern timer rolled over from 16 to 15 did the trick. Being across the country from the server, I had to add that fraction of a second (as compared to 14 seconds) to compensate for the distance and simple human reaction time.

    I got some screens of it, so it will be remembered whether or not we get to keep them!

  559. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:08 am UTC

    Rikaku: Lol I hate that when I’m afk and some person is [dungeon]?? [dungeon] ???

    ??? [dungeon]??

    What’s so hard about asking if you’re not busy do you want to come to [dungeon]?

  560. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:22 am UTC

    Belated but; Syris: Are you sure it was that? I didn’t experience any trouble time wise for taming on the dot and I live in America and play on a Europe server so that’s a large distance.

  561. Leozero - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:22 am UTC

    so just to clarify some stuff for those like me who completed the quest.
    1.- assist wont work, you will still be unable to target it
    2.-misdirecting it to you doesnt work either
    3.- mo theres no way to get it now if you completed the quest (at least not yet discovered)

    and for the ppl that have it

    it wont damn rest unless you do arena only damn arena so stop asking!

    also it would be nice if you stop the “oh my gosh i got him! screenshot! bye”
    at this point only important info, like how did it work for you or so

  562. Clown - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:27 am UTC

    really every just needs to learn how to read, countless of people have posted how they got him and it was pretty much identical to the first like 20 posts.

    atm it would be wise to stop posting unimportant information like leozero said and only post info if you possibly hear about the status of the worgen staying with us or not. its just a little adive, just scroll up and youl find most of the information you need instead of simply spamming. we all know what he looks like and it is clear over nad over how to retrieve him.

  563. Valrean - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:28 am UTC

    To be honest it took me a hell of a while to tame him in his worgen form. Bliz should actually give us some achievment for this. They should not punish us for working so hard to get this pet. I think it takes skill to get him.

  564. Drakkena - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:44 am UTC

    I had Recalled that I had a NE hunter at 72 who didn’t do this quest! So bugger me crazy but I went and tamed my precious boy when I got the chance to do it. Took me about 7 times, I had to reset him twice in a tame since he turned Worgen before the tame was finished, and I had tamed him 4 times and he went worg instead of worgen.

    It really is all about timing when you are soloing it. I tried to do the tame when he was at 54% didn’t work, I was 1% off. Tried at 55% on accident really, and was 2% off, then I realized that I had to hit it at 52% to get the perfect 50% health on him so he would transform.

    I scared my poor friend who was next to me in the room when I finally got it perfect. I was screaming with joy really, and just went around like a nut. Yes, don’t tell anyone to NOT show it off when this is likely GOING to be fixed. We have a lot to boast with the bugger and want to show it off all the time. I had a level 36 ask “When did THEY become tameable!?” and I had nothing to hide, mentioned that I did this and that and said sadly, it was likely going to be fixed soon. I love fiddling around with him in EoTB because, JUMP ANIMATION! It’s just uber sexy darn it!

  565. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:46 am UTC

    does anyone know the cause or have a feeling why the worgen turns back into the wolf when entering BGs?

  566. Jan - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:46 am UTC

    Hi,

    i tamed one today, needs ~3hours :) but now i got it

    thanks for the guide and all your tips&tricks

  567. Xcalibur - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:51 am UTC

    Tamed it today Monday 6 July Australia.
    1.Punched the animal to 52% health
    2.Cast Wyvern Sting (Rank 2)
    3.Waited until there’s 13 on sting
    4.The animal is mine >:)

    The pet is ferocity spec, if you pick Charge for the tree, it looks real cool

  568. Panzy - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:56 am UTC

    Well, it looks like blizz really doesnt want people to know about it. they’ve deleted all the posts, and are still deleting them on the forums. i have a feeling theyre going to remove the buff. only because every other pet we shouldnt have been able to tame has been non situtation based and was what it was. in this case, we have something that does change back when were cleaned of our buffs. so, mines in the stables. im not going to get attached to it, or level it. if come patch day its still the sexy worgen then it will definitly be my new pet, then i can go survival and stable my spiritbeast for a bit :D

    Should they let us keep it? hell yes, will they? probably not =\ get all the screen shots you can, while you can :)

  569. Clown - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:02 am UTC

    i may go tame a 2nd one and put it on my character then put my original int he stables

  570. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:07 am UTC

    Damn .. thanks for the heads up Panzy, if they are going about doing this, they’re going to fix this, and fix this where you don’t have a worgen most likely.

    Lol this was actually motivating me to level my alts the most since ever :/

    Ah well.. need to focus on my paladin anyways. I need to practice my tank skillz more.

  571. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:09 am UTC

    Edit: Forgot to say this too, Mania, why don’t you compile a guide for ‘hard tames’? You know like for taming King Krush, since, even if you didn’t make it, the guide/directions you posted sure helped out a whole, lot of people.

    I mean atleast something good could come out of the short lived Worgen Madness, right?

  572. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:14 am UTC

    hey i was just doing Utgrade Pinnalce before and like half way throught the instance there were these statues that come alive and one of the statues are the exact same skin as the “worgen” alto i already had worgen from this quest but i just found it iteresting. i dont know if you can try to tame it and it is classed as a beast btw.

  573. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:17 am UTC

    Itzzmlgkaiser: It was already said in the first thread this cropped up in, that the UP Worgen is NOT tameable in norm OR hc.

  574. Leozero - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:22 am UTC

    @clown ty vm for the support.
    so i tried some other stuff today ie flares, track hidden etc (i was bored <.<) and of course they dont work (i didnt expect them to do so)
    and since hes not really phased it cant be kited out of it.

    i also tried using and aoe on the second he spawns (i found he doesn on the very same spot always) but of course there was some hunters on the area that wanted him and preety much sent me to hell thinking i just wanted to kill it, so il try that later.
    i think that if you manage to hit it the time it spawns you may grab agro and he will show up, still if he have this “inmune” period where when some npc spawn they are unhitable, so if he goes invis before the inmune period end then it may not be viable.

    what im gonna try is have a friend able to see it on party, get him point me where he is and il try to aoe that place to see if i can grab agro (one fast volley hit should get him to 80%)

    if anyone wanna try this post if it worked (i dont think it will =/ but meh)
    for now im going to bed

    btw for ppl afraid they may loose it its not really likely they will remove or revert.

    i think the best option is making he visible to ppl who completed the quest and then remove the ability to tame him after one week

  575. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:26 am UTC

    oh i didnt see that thread or post.

  576. Zap - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:34 am UTC

    It’s *really* obvious that Blizzard did not intend for Worgen to be tamed. Since it’s a humanoid, I also don’t think that the precedent holds from spirit wolves, etc.

    My expectation is that all the worgen pets will be deleted or turned into ordinary Northrend wolves.

  577. Ssaresh - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:02 am UTC

    got mine on the third try.. both hordes and alliance hunters in my server (Draenor) are helping each other to tame him..

    its a cool way to respect each others’ needs despite the differences, but its war again after all that lol

    80 Alliance Hunter-Draenor-US

  578. Panzy - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:06 am UTC

    That was my favorite part, walking up to a group of hunters that didnt all gank me, they just waved and we all took turns. then once i tamed it they killed me, it was a heart warming moment. hunters stick together, no matter how much blood shed was in their factions past. lol

  579. Mastian - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:06 am UTC

    Something I’m not certain anyone else has had the chance to try yet, so here we go: After the intial excitment of “OH WOW”, I recalled that my level 70 Hunter was still idleing in the, sadly, dead city of Silvermoon on Silver Hand. I’d moved the rest of my characters off some time ago, as my interest in them had shifted. But now, a reason to revive him! Only… Why would I want a hunter with an amazing pet, on a realm I no longer know anyone on? Still, the low population could work to my benifit. Several grueling hours in an unfamiliar Survival spec, Ding level 71, another 2 and a half hours taking turns with 3-8 Alliance, thankfully aside from a few “I just landed so I’m going to attack him”, /sigh at first, but then they were talked to and took turns more politely, everyone was well behaved, -good work and grats those there-. Finally, the sweet spot, Worgen tamed, stabled (just in case) and now the big test – Initiate server transfer.

    Server transfer complete – Rush to stables – White Northrend worg ‘picture’, as expected thanks to other posts, unstable – Hello Worgen.
    Server Transfers will NOT alter the tamed Worgen, you will still have your unique humanoid companion. -At least untill they nerfbat it, fingers crossed otherwise.

  580. Xlrraider - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:10 am UTC

    I LOVE MY WORGEN PET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  581. Mastian - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:12 am UTC

    Just a thought for the “We shouldn’t have a humanoid”. Well, those people with the Ooze-alisk. Ooze aren’t even anything, often, “Unclassified”, correct? And the ghost Hydra-alisk, again, Hydras don’t even count as ‘Exotic’. And the Ghost Wolf in any other encounter is an Undead. Don’t forget the -Demon-everyother time you see one- Vargul Blighthound ‘wolf’ model. Not an ‘unintended’ but still odd, given no other dog like that is a ‘beast’.
    I’m not argueing for or against, but given the odd ‘types’ of some of these other psuedo-beasts, I do hope Blizz opts for as they’ve done in the past: If you have one, you can keep your fluke.

  582. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:26 am UTC

    I say blizzard should patch this so you cannot get it again BUT all the people who have this pet gets too keep him. and its not like ever hunter in wow has this pet and its also pretty hard to tame.

  583. Knight - July 6th, 2009 @ 4:18 am UTC

    Just tamed this last night, it was VERY hard. There were 4 ally hunters already there and many of them were failing bad. I then found I didnt even have wyvern sting so I left, dual specced, specced, went back. I then found a horde hunter who partied with me to keep off other trash. He couldn’t do it either. I tried about 20 times, I ran out of mana so didn’t hit it on the 14 second mark, by time my mana was back the sting was at 10 seconds, and when I hit tame, it actually worked. This was at 50ish % damage at level 73.

  584. Barkeeper - July 6th, 2009 @ 4:53 am UTC

    Another method on this one if you’re with 2 hunters ->

    first hunter (that wants the pet) does Multi-shot than Wyvern sting, around 14 sec’s left on Wyvern he starts his cap while the other hunter watches his Cap bar. When the cap bar is almost up (1 sec. left) the 2nd hunter does 1 arcane shot, and BAM you have him, I did this 4 times yesterday with 4 different hunters, all worked 1st try.

  585. Nexvita - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:06 am UTC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYVY_DeeYbM&feature=related
    for the visual learners!!!

  586. igotdaworgen - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:20 am UTC

    i named mine Banehallow

  587. Onitenshi - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:29 am UTC

    @Mastian:

    The problem is, that unlike the ooze or the ghostwolf, the worgen has an “original model” (the wolf-model). Blizzard never took away the bugged pets hunter tamed, but they just need to reset the model to its original form in this case

  588. Hoton - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:36 am UTC

    Do not worry hunters, Blizzard has not fixed it yet, caught 1-2 mintues from post.

  589. Novali - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:08 am UTC

    Tamed mine on Black Dragonflight. About 5:30 am server time. :o

  590. Malum - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:23 am UTC

    I just did it after a bit of trying. And watching a bunch of inept people screwing it up for everybody else.

    I’ll report that I got it at 51% and 15 seconds. Hitting tame pet right when it’s at 15 seconds. It worked for me at level 74 with some pretty good gear. And somebody, right after me, did the 51% at 15 seconds and it worked for them too. Hopefully whoever reads this and tries it out gets it.

    Good luck everybody.

  591. Shukar - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:26 am UTC

    Tamed with help of another hunter. We are both lvl80

    1. DPS him untill 52% (percentage view set from wow interface)
    2. Wyvern him at 52%
    3. Start Taming when 15sec of wyvern left (my mate succeded at 13 sec also)
    4. when wyvern expire and he came to me, my mate shoot him with arcane shot in viper aspect, and bang.
    Hope it helps,
    GL all! :)

  592. Dazz - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:48 am UTC

    Just tamed 4 of theese beutys!
    I got it by getting him down to 54% and then started taming at 13 seconds left of wyvern sting.

    Good Hunting! ^^

  593. Dazz - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:59 am UTC

    Btw, im aware that I spelled beauty wrong :p

  594. Vern - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:30 am UTC

    Dazz: Good idea! XD
    Maybe i schoul do this to!

    So…. a friend of mine works as a GM at Blizzard, so i will try to ask him about Blizzards plans for that Pet. Hopefully they’ll fix the remorph by Paladins.
    Anyway. I don’t think they will turn the tamed ones back to wolven form.
    A while ago, hunters were able to tame the slimer-pet at scholazaar. (the slimer of the orakle-daylie quest. he thougth he was a crokodile so one coul tame it) They fixed that so you coult no longer tame it. But those who have tamed it still have the pets. So i hope they will handle it like that again.

  595. Dryanda - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:32 am UTC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdffCsNO9O4

    Made a video about his animations and some faq,he was worth the time invested.

  596. Firewing - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:55 am UTC

    589 comments. Yipes.

    I also gladly tell others, (a warlock, and a pally asked where I got mine, along with some hunters) how I got my wolf. It’s just the nice thing to do. :D

    -Fire,(NE 80 hunter) Iorek (armored wolf) Alpha, (Worgen) and Moonlight (Rak’shiri)

  597. gunter - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:56 am UTC

    Seems hotfixed as of monday 12 hours GMT? He changed into worg form right before tame cast finished and ended up with a white wolf besides me. Can anyone confirm pls?

  598. Yojimbo - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:59 am UTC

    Finally after 5+ hours of trying and getting so close about 10+ tries (changed back just as he was coming to me after changing into worgen a millisecond before) i managed to get him :D thanks to EVERYONE that’s contributed to the threads on all the diff sites but mainly Mania for first catching my eye about the possibility a couple days ago :D

    Some data for the people that are trying for him at my level

    level – 72
    damage done by wyvern sting – 330 per tick
    health on Garwal at time of wyvern sting application – 7200~
    time left on wyvern when starting the tame – 15 secs

    think lag/latency can affect it (mine was at 200ish at time of the tame)

    hope the info helps some of the lower level hunters out there

  599. Novali - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:08 am UTC

    gunter

    Mine did that first three times too. Its seems that the seconds are slightly off or something I retried starting one second earlier so he was fully worg and it worked.

  600. Ivalde - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:22 am UTC

    Just got my worgen. =)
    Had to do it a few times but got him in the end.

    Now i just got to level him up so i can use him in this weeks naxx run. Cant wait to see what my guildes says. =P

  601. Esau - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:22 am UTC

    Eh, gave this a shot this morning. Feels hotfixed, though I may just be off with the timing.
    I’ve tamed him just as he turns into the worg and while he’s a worg several times and he just pops back to the original form after being tamed. I’m doing this @ 80 so even while he’s in worg form he does not break the tame.

    Does it have to be the instant he shifts to lock the tame or can the tame lock at any time he’s still in worg form? …or am I just too late and blizz got to him first?

  602. Sondaran - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:23 am UTC

    Confirmed as of 4:30 Arizona time on Cenarius server. Got mine with the help of a hunterin the area named Vivvian(think that’s how it’s spelled). Thank you cuz without your help it wouldn’t have happened. Basically, I got him down to about 55% and started to tame. Just as the timer ran out, she hit him hard it worked. It did take us a while to figure out the timing but once we figured it out she got hers on first try. Also, I have died, revived him, gone into bg and stabled without a change. Good luck and happy hunting. Hope this helps.

  603. Emowin - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:32 am UTC

    Bah it figures this is descovered AFTER both of my hunters high enough to do this have allready done the quest. Grrrr, most likely no point in power lvling a new one eather, it would be fixed by the time I got there. /sigh, /cry

  604. Rottingham - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:46 am UTC

    I was ust wondering…
    I have a level 71 rouge that hasn’t done the quest yet… Would I be able to do the quest with him and have my hunter thier (Since they are on different accounts) and be able to tame him?

  605. Rottingham - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:47 am UTC

    *Just, sorry…

  606. Drakima - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:51 am UTC

    Forget the hard-mode taming. I helped 18 hunters tonight in 2 hours, both horde and ally tame their worgen. Do the standard “Get him to 55% then sleep” method but as the tamers tame its 1 second left, get a friend to nuke the snot out of him. Trust me, we had a 100% attempt-to-tame ratio (Until someones 2 lvl 80 mates both shot it and it died just as it tamed) XD

    =)

  607. Shadowbark - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:00 am UTC

    FINALLY got mine today – Helped another hunter friend, Areah of Wolfpact get it as well. His, due to high gear, required a healthy arcane + single auto shot at the right spot to take him down enough without overkilling him. 55% and 12 seconds seems to be the sweet spot for nearly every person, I was closer to 53% but my sting ticks for less than 80’s.

    Shadowbark – Level 73 Night Elf Hunter – Icecrown-US

  608. Safrienaer - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:13 am UTC

    I decided to tame him on the PTR just for the kicks of it, as I’ve already finished the quest on live. Didn’t want to do the hassle of respeccing, so I went to tame him as BM. It took me around five tries to finally get him to stay as Worgen.

    What I did was get his HP down to around 70-75, then hit him with a Serpent Sting (using Glyph of Serpent Sting) and backed away to keep myself from autoshooting him during the GCD. Immediately after the GCD was over, I started the tame and hoped for the best.

  609. seaborn - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:15 am UTC

    Hang on to them. Based on the fact that I did the quest long ago and cannot get this pet, Blizz will let you keep it. That’s how this game goes for me.

  610. Shadowbark - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:17 am UTC

    If Blizz does allow us to keep the pet, as they’ve done with other ‘rare’ pets, I hope they fix the bug that he can’t be used it Arena… I’m so nervous to even respec even though I’ve heard many people say that respec/WG/dungeon/etc is fine…

    Any confirmation on regular BGs yet?

  611. Dazz - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:22 am UTC

    I managed to do BGs with my pet, HS, respec, stable, fly, relog, also did a char. recustomizing ^^
    I think everything is safe except Arena.

  612. Novali - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:25 am UTC

    Some people were saying that he looks like a normal wolf in the pets screens and stable but on mine he looks like himself. Even his portrait is there.

    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/ukeuberbunny/WoW/WTFWorgenpet3.jpg

  613. Novali - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:27 am UTC

    Killed my message. :o

    Anyway Thats a pic of his pet lookup. Some people were saying he was showing as a reg wolf in that and the stables but hes been himself in mine. Even his portrait is his own face. :O

  614. Esau - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:30 am UTC

    Ha! OK, not hotfixed. I just managed to get him. ..and yep you really do have a 1 sec window to pull it off.

    I don’t have high hopes of keeping him though. He’s different than the other “rare” pets in one blatant way. In the stable or on the log in screen he hold the regular dog model. …and I expect one day soon that is what he will look like when summoned.

    I held on to my spirit hydra, it turned out to be a great farming pet and outside of a raid is my most common companion. However it always appeared as a Hydra in the log in screen and the model in the stable was always a hydra (not the icon, that has always been croc).

    Would be nice if blizz just made it untameable and let us keep the skin.

  615. Novali - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:33 am UTC

    Ooo I hadn’t logged out since I tamed him. He does turn into a reg wolf. DDDDD:

    Blast I hope they let us have em. :x

  616. Rocafella - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:47 am UTC

    Just got him!!! Ok im a 76 so I had to work out what shots to get him to 52% then Wsting. I cast tame at the 13 sec left and poof. It took only 3 trys!

  617. buffd.net - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:07 am UTC

    Mania’s Arcania » Pet … Worgen?! [Updated]…

    Pet Worgens??…

  618. Xana - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:22 am UTC

    For those who cant tame Garwal, is it possible to tame the worgen in Heroic UP since he is labled as a beast?

  619. King Flanagan - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:25 am UTC

    Yo what if you are with someone who is on this quest? and you are in the same group? I’m sure it works that way doesnt it? A reply would be greatly appreciated… lol

  620. Spah - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:31 am UTC

    @King Flanagan: Sadly No, you can only see the mob with Eyes of the Eagle Buff, which comes from the quest, and even if your in a group with a guy doing the quest who has the buff he’ll Appear to be only attacking Air to you, I Could be wrong about this, Just Going on what i’ve heard from hunter guildies

  621. Shadowbark - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:34 am UTC

    @ Xana – Just because something is a beast doesn’t always mean it’s tamable sadly.

    @ Flanagan – This, amongst other NR quests involve the phasing tech. While you have the buff (on the last part of the chain) you can see Garwal. Once you complete the quest you cannot see Garwal EXCEPT for about a 0.4 second window the MOMENT he respawns. Has anyone tested the theory that pulling him at the moment of spawn will grant people tamability post-quest?

  622. King Flanagan - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:34 am UTC

    Heh thx.. its all good… its funny though, how when I was low lvl.. all the hotfixed pets were higher than me, (Ghostwolf, Hydra etc.) and now as an 80 hunter.. A new hotfixed pet spawns from a quest I completed ages ago… lol what’re the odds.. Well, time to go look for the mighty Green Devilsaur.. and your reply was much appreciated.

  623. Draeceryn - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:36 am UTC

    OMG I just got him after an hour of trying on my level 80 hunter…. with serpent sting and a lot of luck :D HE’S SO SEXY :D

  624. King Flanagan - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:47 am UTC

    Quick question to those that have one.. does he growl like a worgen? or like a Worg?

  625. Clown - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:52 am UTC

    everything about him is worgen, including his growl/howl

  626. King Flanagan - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:04 am UTC

    Lol what’re the odds…. Haha.. can’t complain.. Grats to those that have one.

    What’s next on the list? A drake/netherwing pet? lol

    /sarcasm.

  627. Gelannerai - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:29 am UTC

    Nah, we’ll suddenly be able to tame the drake Skadi (spelling?) rides around on.

  628. Gromtal - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:35 am UTC

    I just attempted with a guildy and can confirm that you cannot see Garwal unless you are on the quest.

    I finished this quest chain a couple of months ago. Maybe Blizz can reset it for me…..

  629. Llewelyn - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:45 am UTC

    One thought on the mysterious reversion mentioned previously, and the possibility that shapeshifting buffs could over write it: Has anyone tested using Baby Spice on him?

  630. Trowa Barton - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:49 am UTC

    lol comment 610 u are fail

  631. Immersion of Bloodscalp - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:52 am UTC

    I got mine last night after respeccing to survival. It was MUCH easier than trying to serpent sting it down.
    Thank you VERY much to my ally friend Hotpockett for alternating tries with me and telling the allies to back off from me! Sorry the horde were morons and killed you.
    (One even told me to go play on PvE *rolls eyes*)

  632. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:02 pm UTC

    @ Llewelyn: Never thought of that. I wouldn’t initially think that it would dispel a shapeshift but it’s worth a shot ;)

  633. Senof - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:05 pm UTC

    Hi All!

    Wich quest send you to Camp Winterhoof to start questing here ? Anyone tell me pls ?
    I just skip HF when i lvl up my Hunter so i didn’t do any quest there.

  634. Alphashot - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:06 pm UTC

    I managed to get mine today at about 8:30 am pst. I ended up using my pet (from a previous failed attempt) to tank him until I got to *my* magic %mark (53%). popped a wyvern sting on him, abandoned my old pet, then hit tame beast as the timer hit 14 sec on WS. The Truly happy thing was I had tagged him too close to another worg, so in killing that mob before turning my attention back to Garwal, I hit level 73 :)
    The 71 fem Belf hunter witness who showed up as I was doing it was just icing on the cake.

    Alphashot
    73 Belf Hunter
    DragonBlight

  635. Taggah - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:24 pm UTC

    I tried everything to tame him spent about 12 hours yesterday. I can’t get him. On the plus side I have hekped many hunters by hitting him just as their tame goes through so he changed.

  636. Furyoshi - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:27 pm UTC

    Got him this morning I’m a BM hunter, had my druid friend help. Took 3 tries!
    G’luck everyone who is still trying to tame him.

  637. Shining Baka - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:30 pm UTC

    Quest finished… u_u

  638. Dvatori - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:48 pm UTC

    Has anyone else noticed that their worgen has elevated resistances to everything?

    We may be getting a better deal then we though >:D

  639. grymm - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:51 pm UTC

    i haven’t felt this alive on my hunter, or seen so many hunters in action on a server in ages. sad that it takes a blizz code glitch to create this sort of excitement…

    anyway, this is one of the first tames where just outliving the beast was the only plan. by far one of the hardest technical tames i’ve ever done. but so worth it.

    anyone going for the tame i wish you luck.

    so, you think blizz will buy, “it followed me home, can i keep ‘em?”

  640. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:55 pm UTC

    Dvatori:
    No, it shouldn’t and doesn’t. It becomes a standard wolf after taming. You probably have some hidden resistances you don’t know about.

  641. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:55 pm UTC

    standard wolf with wicked skin *

  642. Jaegerbomb - July 6th, 2009 @ 12:56 pm UTC

    Got ‘Logan’ this morning using the Wyvern technique (following a respec) as I couldnt manage it after 7-8 attempts using serpent sting.. got it on 3rd attempt using wyvern (got him to around 7300HP) then 14sec and tamed – he looks amazing and his idle poses are hilarious… envy of many a hunter who has quests completed…

    Mega chuffed now… (time to respec back to BM … yehhhhh)

  643. Gusgranite - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:24 pm UTC

    Used the easymode “DPS to 50%, WS, start taming, and have friend shoot him at 1.5 s left”. Worked great, plus helped two other hunters get theirs the first time trying.

  644. snuzzled - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:34 pm UTC

    The guy who said Baby Spice might have been the culprit of the ninja-demorph might be on to something. Although it doesn’t remove a druid’s form so it *shouldnt* ooverwrite an invisible shapeshift buff… still, anyone brave enough to try it?

  645. Javiana - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:44 pm UTC

    I baby spice’d mine within the first 30 minutes, i baby spice about everything, no ill effects at all. I have used it on other people’s too and no problems there either.

  646. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:48 pm UTC

    once you tame him, DO NOT complete the quest afterwards. i advise that you keep the quest until either blizzard removes the glitch or something. for instance what if you acidentaly lose the worgen like if you entered an arena or do something that was undiscovered yet and causes your pet to change back to a wolf. atleast if you have the quest, you can always try to tame him again. atleast unti blizzard fixes this glitch. BTW whos with me that people who have the worgen should keep him?

  647. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:53 pm UTC

    I’m with you but it’d kinda go against lore, usually the things (besides, possibly, the slime) that hunters have been able to bug-tame have been beast-like to a degree where they should be kept. But with the worgen, it’s a humanoid which means the hunters being able to keep them would go against lore as they’re not as beast-like as the others (again, besides the slime :P)

    Although to repeat myself, I am with you on the hutners being able to keep them, I was just saying why I think it’ll be unlikely ;)

  648. Kuervoh - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:56 pm UTC

    I remembered that for the longest time I never finished this questline because I wanted to keep the Worg disguise but I thought I finally finished it to finish of the quests for Howling Fjord.

    Just for kicks I went to the quest giver and she gave me an option to get a new disguise! I was able to get mine after about 6 attempts. Hopefully we get to keep them.

  649. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 1:58 pm UTC

    I gave up on lore long ago. Like, back when they made up Draenei just so the Alliance would have a race when Horde got BE’s. XD

  650. Ge - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:09 pm UTC

    Beast like? How about a gorilla?

  651. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:11 pm UTC

    The draenei were in the lore before WoW (in the Warcraft games) the thing that would have made me give up on the lore is the fact that you could play a race full of blue aliens who’s capital city was a space ship which crashed into Azeroth

  652. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:13 pm UTC

    Apparently, they’re more beast-like than humanoid-like according to blizz ¬_¬ (weirdly enough, about 2 hours ago, I was leveling my priest in STV, killing gorilla’s, thinking of why hunters were allowed to tame them xD)

  653. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:22 pm UTC

    Telepathic Indian:
    Well yes that’s what I mean. They basically said lets make up that this race somehow comes in contact with azeroth”. I mean, the entire Burning Crusade was hi-fantasy. WoW in general is a more gothic fantasy setting. So by adding a spaceship to the game, I /quit lore. XD

    and yeah, Gorillas are intelligent and such. And as I said somewhere else, look at Loque’nahak. His mate is a GODDESS. a TALKING LEOPARD GODDESS. And she’s fully sentient as she sends you own a great many quests and makes full acknowledgment of her own possible death in the entire ordeal. Yet, we tame her mate and Blizz wants to tell me I can’t tame sentient creatures? I’m pretty sure as a god/demi-god Loque’s pretty sentient from a lore perspective.

  654. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:29 pm UTC

    “god/demigod” Set my imagination off xD Tameable Cenarius 8DDD

    But what I was saying was, they weren’t originally meant to be tameable, so if they let hunters keep them, the’d be in a situation where they’d either have to make all Worgens tameable or just remove all tamed Worgens from the game (and revert them back to the awful looking white wolf).

    Odd how no-one has mentioned that possibility yet, blizz deciding Worgens are good pets and making them all tameable (not what I think but imo, it’s more likely than quite a few of the possibilities brought up in these comments)

  655. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:31 pm UTC

    I tend to agree that a worgen is very unlike other hunter pets, that this was never intended to be one and that no amount of creative justifications from the players are likely to change this, however…

    For what it’s worth, a werewolf’s lupine nature would give hunters a potential handle to work with – presumably they would need a worgen whose wolfish nature was so dominant that it no longer remembered its human/humanoid side, and from there it could be “tamed” in the same manner and as “realistically” as the hunter would tame an actual wolf.

    The thing might be a little more unruly due to having occasional flashbacks of humanoid individuality, opposable thumbs and such but as I see it the underlying/overriding thing would still be the fact it thinks of itself as a wolf…

    Again – all fluff as far as concerns any decision of Blizzard’s…

  656. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:35 pm UTC

    I dunno, but I wish they’d say it already. I want to level my worgen, but it’s sort of moot point if they remove him cause I don’t want a plain wolf when I already got one 9_9 Plus it’s not worth the expense of arrows/bullets either if he’s just getting removed.

  657. Ivoire - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:40 pm UTC

    But at least a Worgen is even part beast. Everything pointing to Blizzard reverting the Worgen back to the wolf form makes perfect and logical sense, until I remember that I have a giant green blob in my stables with a skull floating in it. Lore?

    I do believe Blizzard screwed themselves for future incidents similar to the infamous three “crocolisks” of Sholozar by allowing us to keep them.

  658. Saranette - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:40 pm UTC

    I don’t care so long as I get to keep mine haha.

    Course, I’m half expecting the pets to all to be reverted, and in half a year, Death Knights or Druids get a new WEREWOLF MORPH ATTACK 51 point talent!

  659. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:41 pm UTC

    Another idea I should really report to blizz (it’s actually not that farfetched) just include Worgens under the Best Master talent (was that correct? to repeat, I don’t play hutners on live :P) or have a seperae talent to tame certain other NPC’s which are half beast etc.

  660. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:41 pm UTC

    I imagine we’ll know by this time tomorrow… at least, I’m gonna start playing mine if I don’t hear anything by then – after all if it takes me a month or so to get my nelf SV hunter up to 80, and they don’t get around to nerfing the worgens for another month and a half, I’d still consider that time well spent (and I’ll take plenty of screenshots along the way).

  661. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:45 pm UTC

    wait a sec. is our tamed worgens considered a humanoid instead of beasts? if they are considered a beast instead of a humanoid then i dont see whats the big deal and all this talk about it “looking like” or being a humanoid. if they are/were/is considered humanoid then we have a problem and blizzard would no doubt remove them.

  662. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm UTC

    The whole fuss is over the fact that the Worgen (“race”) is considered to be a humanoid race, the only reason your worgen is a beast is cos the original NPC which it transformed from is a beast. And with blizz, the lore does play a huge part in their decisions about these sort of things.

  663. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:50 pm UTC

    Worgen are humanoids; Garwal (in his worgen state) is probably only considered a “beast” because it was easier for Blizzard to take a wolf and tweak it to have a humanoid overlay effect than the other way around (and they were most likely fine with being able to tame him, since the worgen effect is the sort of thing that tends to slip past beta testing).

  664. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:53 pm UTC

    Telepathic Indian:
    “And with blizz, the lore does play a huge part in their decisions about these sort of things.”

    Sort of. I mean, Blizzard did pull a “it’s against Lore” for us on the Ghost Wolves as to why they removed it. Yet, as a great number of players pointed out, there are several undead beasts and a Ghost Saber we can tame. Considering the Ghost saber is literally just like the ghost wolf (in theory of being a pet, not in taming): Both are see through *ghosts*, both are not special in any other way other than being trasnparent. Yet they ripped the ghost wolf from us saying “no it doesnt match the feel of the class”, while letting a ghost saber remain tameable.

    So yes, Blizzard does care about lore, but not enough to actually be fair at times. XD

  665. Gelannerai - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:54 pm UTC

    Here’s some lore for you. Worgen have both a humanoid side and a bestial side. The bestial side reigns and is out of control. Hunters have a special insight into interacting with beasts. Because of this, Hunters are able to help Worgen control their more bestial nature. You don’t tame them as a pet so much as you help them with their ailment, and get a lifelong friend out of it. Like Han and Chewie or something.

  666. Hunter, Pegue seu Pet Worgen! » By WoWGirl » Artigo » WoW Girl - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:54 pm UTC

    [...] site Mania’s Arcania explica o passo-a-passo de toda a estratégia de usar o Wyvern Sting. Agora, os hunters lvl 80 que já fizeram essa quest [...]

  667. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 2:57 pm UTC

    “Like Han and Chewie or something.”

    oh my god that is literally one of the best metaphors I’ve seen yet for this worgen XD Makes me wish someone named theirs chewie XD

  668. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:05 pm UTC

    From what I’ve see, a big factor in their decisions re: removing pets they don’t want us to tame is the “water over the dam” factor, e.g. how many tamed models had appeared by the time Blizzard became aware of it or had a chance to take action; with ghost sabers I suspect there were so many in people’s stables that they just decided to go with it (plus back then we had no exotics and precious few “trophy” pets).

    Conversely on the other end of the spectrum you have the sunreaver (?) dragonhawk appearing on PTR and then getting pulled, accompanied by a blue comment stating “look, this was never available on live ergo there is nothing to grandfather in/take back or etc” – obviously in that case it was much easier for Blizzard to simply say “no pet for you”.

    Spirit wolves were somewhere in the middle and that is likely why Blizzard went back and forth on the issue for a while before deciding against it – but allowing existing tames to remain.

    Hopefully, it will be no worse for worgen – and if we’re really lucky they might even clean up the de-morph “bug” in fashion kinda-sorta similar to how they cleaned up gezzarak and the spirit wolf after making them untamable. One can always hope…

  669. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:05 pm UTC

    Lol, that is a good metaphor xD

    @ Rikaku: Lol, it’s blizz, do you really expect them to be fair?

  670. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:09 pm UTC

    I would not be surprised if they don’t clean up the ‘bug’ regarding the worgen in the Arena. It’s obvious this wasn’t intended, and I don’t think they’re going to fix it for those of us who have obtained it. I just don’t see that happening. Of course, I could be wrong.

    @Rikaku: I wanna rename mine Chewie now. xD

  671. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:09 pm UTC

    Telepathic Indian:
    If I wanted to play a fair game, I sure as heck wouldn’t have rolled Hunter and then proceed to be a BM Hunter 4 years ago! XDDD

  672. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:10 pm UTC

    OMG I got 666 comment?! that cannot bode well for me XD

  673. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:11 pm UTC

    @ Rikaku: Never argue with me! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >: D

  674. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:12 pm UTC

    @Rikaku:
    Well, there goes YOUR worgen. xD

  675. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:13 pm UTC

    Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow:
    My worgen probably did it man D= I didn’t name him after Maxwell’s Demon cause he was nice and fluffy xD

  676. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:14 pm UTC

    Nothing a dunk in holy water won’t fix…

  677. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:25 pm UTC

    @Rikaku:
    OMG you didn’t? I find mine rather fluffy. And exotic. But mostly just badass.

    @Scott:
    Holy water might have him revert back to worg form. Be careful… xD

  678. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:29 pm UTC

    Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow:
    I think the Holy Water is probably for me. I’m not bad, I just play that way. XD

  679. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:31 pm UTC

    Rikaku:
    XD That’s too funny.

  680. Epona - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:35 pm UTC

    Got mine yesterday, after 4 trys (should got him on 3º, but a DAMN rogue thought that I needed help to kill it – I’m lvl 80 full epic T8/T7 25men, and the guy thinks that I need help to kill a lvl 71 non elite mob. God…)
    Named Thriller, my own tribute to M.Jackson! \o/ (Thanks to my beloved boyfriend for the name suggestion)

  681. Dranae - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:36 pm UTC

    I’ve a question and I tried reading all the blog entries but I started to get a headache so want to see if someone can answer. I haven’t tested it myself.

    If you are with someone that has the quest (and you’ve done it already) and you /assist them, does it allow you to target the mob or does just nothing happen?

    Dranae from Eitrigg

  682. non sequitur - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:36 pm UTC

    i like turtles.

  683. Telepathic Indian - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:40 pm UTC

    @ Dranae: No, it doesn’t, if you’ve completed the quest, there’s absolutely no way you can get it without making a new hunter

    And seriously, this has been asked way too many times, it needs to be added at the top where people can see, not just lingering around in the comments :S

  684. Sapphirine - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:41 pm UTC

    @ Dranae- Assisting someone targeting him doesn’t work, neither does a target macro. D:

  685. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:44 pm UTC

    Here is the first I’ve been able to find in the way of a quasi-official Blizzard response; it’s actually from Freyja, a mod – so not a blue/gm comment but still:

    “I would never go so far as to confirm or deny that you can tame him as a worgen, but it seems that if the above % for tapping WS isn’t working, just ratchet the % down until you hit the sweet spot. I strongly suspect the % at which you hit TB is dead-on.

    Helsing and I hear he has a quick respawn.

    ~F”

    From

    http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Z2cTC2q-5HEJ:forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html%3FtopicId%3D18031062396%26sid%3D1+garwal+tame+OR+taming+site:forums.worldofwarcraft.com&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  686. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:45 pm UTC

    Hey Mania,

    Can you please unlock my post – I had a quote from a mod but it looks like the first half got auto-filtered due to having a url? :)

  687. Reddrake - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:46 pm UTC

    I was thinking about alternative solutions that would be a good compromise.

    Revert the worgen back to a wolf, but make it turn worgen when hunters beastial wrath. They could even allow other worg morphing worgen to be allowed to be tamed.

    I think this would be good people wouldn’t necessarily want to use the worgen if its readily available. It is also kind of a personal nerf to use the worgen morphing worg if you spec into beast mastery because its not a truly exotic pet (just a regular wolf). I think most BM hunters who are concerned about the look of their pets would rather use a spirit beast and then you’ll have that diehard population who love the look and idea of playing with a werewolf who will really be satisfied.

  688. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:46 pm UTC

    More from Freyja:

    “I believe he transforms at around 51% or so. Had I tamed him I might have found that you really only have time for one tick of damage from WS before he’s fully tamed . That tick would (hypothetically, of course) have to push him into said transformation just as the taming ended.

    Or so I’ve heard.

    ~F “

  689. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:47 pm UTC

    At the top it clearly states:

    “In order to see Garwal, you must be on the quest to kill him (called Alpha Worg). This quest is available to both Horde and Alliance but has a different chain of prerequistes — check Wowhead for details.”

    I think that pretty much sums it up. If you’re not on the quest, you can’t see him, which means you can’t help out a friend unless you’re both on that quest. I dunno… maybe that’s too hard to understand? xD

  690. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:50 pm UTC

    Huh?

  691. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:50 pm UTC

    nvm

  692. non sequitur - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:58 pm UTC

    Giraffe are pretty.

  693. non sequitur - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:58 pm UTC

    giraffes too

  694. Fawatam - July 6th, 2009 @ 3:59 pm UTC

    Just confirming yet again this is still doable as of Monday July 6th. I found the best way to tame as a lv 80 was the suggestion to leave all your gear on, but take off your melee weapon and just beat him down with your fists. (Assuming that you have high enough fist skill). This allows you more accuracy in his HP percentage to stop at. Disengaged, Wyrven Sting, and tame at 13-14 sec. I was just about to give up, and now I have this beauty in my stables.

  695. B_Thompson - July 6th, 2009 @ 4:02 pm UTC

    ~DPS to 50%, Wyvern Sting, start taming, and have friend shoot him at 1.5 s left.

    ~You can do anything and everything with said pet, save for Arena battles. That will reset him.

    ~You cannot /assist someone to get it yourself. You have to have the quest to summon him.

    ~GMs and staff have been specifically told not to reset this quest.

  696. Ryai - July 6th, 2009 @ 4:22 pm UTC

    Friends and I just found skinable undead, not saying what/where as I’m pretty sure skinning a skelenton for pure cash is an explotation. We did it a couple more times to see if it really WAS happening and it was ….

    … so if you can skin bones why not tame a worgen O_o

  697. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 4:27 pm UTC

    if blizzard was smart enough in the beginning they should of just made it so you cannot even try to tame Garwal. eventualy something like would of been found out. not on top of just fixing this glitch/bug, they are probably gunna check ever other beast that transforms.

  698. KrVaViSaLe - July 6th, 2009 @ 4:44 pm UTC

    My 2 cents:
    http://gamer.hr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=38054

  699. Nox - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:03 pm UTC

    Can confirm this still works 4 pm winterhoof.

  700. Laike - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:03 pm UTC

    OK, new thought – priest’s mass dispel!
    is there anything it doesnt remove? :P

    can the people with the PTR tames(as they have nothing to lose) try this out with fellow priests, please, and let us know of the results?

  701. Twi - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:09 pm UTC

    Just tamed him on Kirin Tor with the help of some other hunters that were gathered around. You don not need to be Survival, just dps him down to about 53% or so, start tame, have someone else nuke him at 1 second of tame left and BAM!… you’ve got yourself a worgen. Enjoy! I sure am enjoying my new Terror. XD

  702. Flinthoof - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:33 pm UTC

    I call shenanigans on the lore question if that be an argument for hunters to lose the worgen pet.

    I cite the boss encounter within the Underbog. If a boss can tame a druid of the cenarion circle as a pet/minion, why should adventurers not be able to tame creatures of a similar nature?

  703. akyo - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:35 pm UTC

    just got mine on a lower lvl hunter who hadent done the quest yet. was awfully hard. Almost like tameing a new spirit wolf or Gezza :)

    someone mentioned that they have seen other hunters with one..but i got to ask the rest of you:

    DO OTHERS actually see it as this kickass worgen or just as a reg NR worg?

    cause so far it appears that others only see a regular white worg next to me.
    Shame if they does, cause hes so sweet! and that idle animation (airguitar/Tada!? ) is awsome.

  704. Misfortune - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:38 pm UTC

    Others see it as a worgen too.

  705. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:43 pm UTC

    I seem to recall people talking about others oohing and aahing over their new tame

  706. Elarskil - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:53 pm UTC

    I love this pet.. immediately when I got him I named him VanHelsing.. (:

  707. B_Thompson - July 6th, 2009 @ 5:55 pm UTC

    ~DPS to 50%, Wyvern Sting, start taming, and have friend shoot him at 1.5 s left.

    ~You can do anything and everything with said pet, save for Arena battles. That will reset him.

    ~You cannot /assist someone to get it yourself. You have to have the quest to summon him.

    ~GMs and staff have been specifically told not to reset this quest.

    ~Shows as a normal wolf in stables.

  708. Amuneta - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:04 pm UTC

    Just tried the mass dispell thing, it doesn’t affect the worgon’s form.

  709. Endriel - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:24 pm UTC

    Endriel on Theradras EU tamed his!
    It is not that hard, but i don’t had the time to tame the ghost wolf so i used my chance now.
    Worked on my third try. Im full Naxx hc equiped but i had to nuke him down at ~58% and started taming at 9 seconds left after wyvern him haste gear looks like it has impact on taming speed so my channel time was 17,xx seconds.

    I named him after Ragnar Blackmane the protagonist of the ragnar novels by William King!

    p.s. sry for my broken school english xD

  710. Trowa Barton - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:25 pm UTC

    i hate to say it but i think the pally dispel thing was a troll attempt

  711. Gelannerai - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:32 pm UTC

    Dig how people do that you know? You know THEY’RE useful additions to the human race…..

  712. Panzy - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:40 pm UTC

    I can confirm that pallys cant dispel the buff. ive tried everything i can think of, the only thing thats reset mine so far was arena.

  713. Renata - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:53 pm UTC

    I tried taming him for 3 hours on Saturday when I first found out, no luck. Yesterday I changed my setting to display percentages instead of a number for health and this helped a lot. I only respecced to SV so I could get Wyvern (too lazy to pick the other talents as I was gonna respecc right back) so I left the other talents unlearned. I am a level 80 in half blues half purples mostly. My unarmed skill is maxed out (for achievement – did somebody order a knuckle sandwich? :P) So I unequipped different items until I got to the point where I could hit him (bare-handed) and cause 1% damage with each hit. With this specc my sweet spot was 52%. Also hit tame right BEFORE your wyvern hits 14 because there’s like a milisecond lapse when you hit tame and when it actually starts the taming process. I autoshotted him down to about 65% and then just punched him the rest of the way down to 52%, clicked the landscape to deselect him and stop auto-hitting him, backed away a few step and WS. Did it about 10 times with this method and FINALLY got him. Just takes luck and patience and exact timing.

    Somebody posted this before but I’ll post it again because it really helped me visualize the timing, imagine that he has to be changing into worgen as he’s walking to your side and shrinking after the tame.

    Anyway, he’s gorgeous. Can’t stop starin at him. And he grows HUGE with bestial wrath. And one of his idle animations shows him doing “spirit fingers”, its so cute (look at my claws! see them? pretty big huh?)

    And finally what amused me the most was if you try attacking him and either fly off or FD, he says simply “Fool.” I was ROFL at that, that just shows even more of his badass personality.

  714. B_Thompson - July 6th, 2009 @ 6:55 pm UTC

    Worgan Madness

    ~DPS to 50%, Wyvern Sting, start taming, and have friend shoot him at 1.5 s left.

    ~You can do anything and everything with said pet, save for Arena battles. That will reset him.

    ~You cannot /assist someone to get it yourself. You have to have the quest to summon him.

    ~GMs and staff have been specifically told not to reset this quest.

    ~Shows as a normal wolf in stables.

    ~Paladin and Priest buffs and dispells do not effect the Worgan ‘buff’ on the pet.

  715. Arjuna - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:30 pm UTC

    I was thinking about the exploit argument mentioned and really this is no diffrent to our outher unusual pets. Blizz decided when they made this quest to allow the shapechanger tamable if they did not want us the chance they could have made him untamable like so many other beasts and non beasts like the violet spiders (still cant figure that one out).
    As far as wow lore goes this guy decided to be alpha leader of a wolf pack, he would rather be a beast than a humaniod and live his life like that. If he has his way he will sacrifice the last vestiges of his lycanthropy when you tame him and he exepts you as his dominant master, but if you catch him just as he desperatly changes to his true form he looses his wolf form but retains his beastial nature. Your binding spell has finished before he gained his humaniod abilities and he has lost the worgen abilty to morf into a wolf at will.
    I am trying to come up with a creditable story for a crocoslime but it fails me atm :S

  716. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:34 pm UTC

    @Arjuna:
    They didn’t know about the ability to tame Garwal as a worgen. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t have made him tamable if there was even the slightest clue that you could. It took a bit of work, but it was pulled and now a lot of Hunters have done the quest to get one. This wasn’t intended, quite obviously.

    The one thing that’s always bugged me about Blizz is making certain beasts untamable. Like you can tame three or four different color Silithid and only from certain specific places… why not all Silithid? Same with the Warp Stalkers. And a host of other beasts.

  717. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:40 pm UTC

    Yojimbow:
    Agreed. I hate that. You mean I can tame Worgs, but god forbid I had a brown and white worg from LBRS and poof he was gone D= or tigers. I can tame tigers, but I tame that one that looks like the cat from Hee-man in felwood? Or soo-holu? Or the frostsaber companions?

    I mean the list goes on and on….

  718. Monanoke - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:46 pm UTC

    Blizzard’s silence… slowly rots my soul….

    The suspense is killing me. Tuesday = Judgement Day

  719. Firewing - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:50 pm UTC

    Aaaand, 712 comments. This is impressive. Wanna bet we can get 1000?

  720. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 7:57 pm UTC

    @Rikaku:
    Four pets elude my taming prowess –
    1. Giraffes. How freakin’ cool would it be to walk around Northrend and go “Just out here chillin’ with my giraffe pet. You can look, but you can’t touch.
    2. Hydra. Aside from the Hydralisk (which I wanted, grinded my backside off to get to 80 to tame it, got the quest from the Oracles to do it and, surprise, Bliz got rid of that in a freakin’ hurry), hydras in general would just be badass to have as pets. Pesky rogue keeps sapping you? Turn ol’ Chompy on aggressive and watch the horror begin. :D
    3 & 4. Diametrodon & Pterrordax from Un’Goro. You can tame T-rexes and raptors… but not the other two dinosaurs that roam Azeroth? WTF?! I call shenanigans.
    5. Basilisk. I don’t know about anyone else, but the ones around Stranglethorn Vale (The reddish ones) are pretty badass looking and would make wicked pets. The yellow ones within Zul’Farrak are sweet too.

  721. Xiongmao - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:04 pm UTC

    OMG I wish the pterrordax were tamable as well, that would be so awesome.

  722. Asura - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:15 pm UTC

    wow 700+ posts! woot!

  723. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:17 pm UTC

    Yojimbow:
    My top wants:
    1.Giraffe: I want a giraffe so I can name him ToysRUs. XD I’ve always wanted a giraffe.
    2.Stag/Gazelle/Deer: I would love to have those as pets, especially those black ones in Ashenvale. Though, I also think a deer or dryad would make a much better resto form then tree for Druids XD
    3.Gryphons/Wyverns: I think it’d be cool to have the first faction only pets (or free for everyone for those who don’t like being confined to factions). But I think it’d be cool to see Allies with Gryphons and Windrider pets for the Horde.
    4. Hippogryphs: HIPPOGRYPHS FOR ALL! And you can’t tell me you wouldnt want those pretty ones in Feralas XD
    5.Zhevra: Nuff said.

  724. Bloodwolf - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:18 pm UTC

    or the Elekk, Kodo, Rams, Horse and the mighte cow

    (Bloodwolf)
    Korialstrasz (US)

  725. Agravaine - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:20 pm UTC

    When I heard about exotic pets, I assumed clefthooves would be included.

    Guess not… so yeah, that’s my pick.

  726. Suzi - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:22 pm UTC

    Renata’s tips were really helpful! Got it down to 52%, used Wyvern sting, tried to tame a little before 14 secs and it was successful!

    Best of luck getting this everyone!

  727. Bloodwolf - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:33 pm UTC

    Thank you for all the help on getting my Worgen pet.
    I got mine on July 4th, 2009

    Got it down to 50% used Wyvern sting

    i am Scared of a Mages Polymorph or the spellsteel

    (Bloodwolf)
    Korialstrasz (US)

  728. SilvermoonHunter - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:36 pm UTC

    I think Blizz just deleted all the stuff about Worgens on the official forums. New to forums so I might be wrong, but I have an ominous feeling about this if it is the case.

  729. Carl - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:45 pm UTC

    Level 73 hunter finally got it tonight. Knocked him down to around 51-52% health (7100-7200 HP), Wyvern sting (hit for around 300), then with just under 14 seconds left on wyvern, started tame beast.

  730. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:53 pm UTC

    OMFG I forgot one! Sprite Darters!

  731. Incognitus - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:55 pm UTC

    If Arugal can has many worgenses, then why not I to have one?!

    we need to take many screenshots and put up a site that is just LOLWORGENS

  732. akyo - July 6th, 2009 @ 8:56 pm UTC

    silvermoon. Blizz seem to have a habit of doing that. i remember the forums when the ghost wolf was the hot topic. they suddenly deleted the original thread about it.

  733. akyo - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:04 pm UTC

    and oh yes. like Bloodwolf is worrying about.

    Polymorphs! annyone tested it?

    i know babyspice and such shrink effects are safe but what about shapeshift spells?

  734. B_Thompson - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:08 pm UTC

    Worgan Madness

    ~DPS to 50%, Wyvern Sting, start taming, and have friend shoot him at 1.5 s left.

    ~You can do anything and everything with said pet, save for Arena battles. That will reset him.

    ~You cannot /assist someone to get it yourself. You have to have the quest to summon him.

    ~GMs and staff have been specifically told not to reset this quest.

    ~Shows as a normal wolf in stables.

    ~Paladin and Priest buffs and dispells do not effect the Worgan ‘buff’ on the pet.

    ~Babyspice and size altering effects do not remove the Worgan ‘buff’

  735. SilvermoonHunter - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:10 pm UTC

    I know the tcg loot card slashdance (dance gernade) makes bear pets from hunters dance like druids I was tempted to try it on worgen, but decided not to in case it resets them. Can anyone confirm that bgs are safe? I know everyone says it is,but anyone done it and can say for sure?

  736. Bloodwolf - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:13 pm UTC

    Yes all Bg are good and safe

  737. SilvermoonHunter - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:14 pm UTC

    Ty Bloodwolf :)

  738. Bryan - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:23 pm UTC

    Congrats to all of you who’ve managed to tame it… T_T
    I went to the spawning site of this wolfie and saw a lvl 71 hunter tamed the worgie… Ask him a bunch of questions then realised that I will not be able to tame the worgie cause I’ve done the quest long ago. So with a heavy heart, I just fly slowly towards Dalaran… Slowly… and as I reached Zul’drak… Eh a yellow spot… OMG it’s Gondria! Dismount and tamed her instead. Well, I didn’t go back empty handed after all >.<

  739. BadBart - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:26 pm UTC

    Got mine at 8pm est on Magtheridon US
    http://img172.imagevenue.com/loc550/th_28771_worgen_122_550lo.jpg

  740. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:33 pm UTC

    From Zarhym just this second:
    “As you put it Zennie, we are currently discussing this issue.

    It is not intended that Garwal can be tamed while in worgen form and will be addressed via a hotfix in the near future. When we have determined how to handle situations where hunters have already tamed Garwal we will let you know. “

  741. Grizzled Hunter Yojimbow - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:41 pm UTC

    That says it all right there. Thanks Rikaku. You know what this means now, right?

    All worgenses become ghost worgens. I call it.

  742. Rikaku - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:51 pm UTC

    Yojimbow:
    No prob. I’ve been prowling forums all day like a rogue in the arena… (If someone begins telling me about pvp and rogues and arenas, I will sick Maxwell on you! It’s a metaphor!)

    But I find this EXTREMELY interesting. No doubt, I personally believe the hotfix will be during the maitenance tomorrow. The interesting part is, theyre DISCUSSING the already tamed worgens. This same process is how the ghost wolves went.

    Maybe I’m being optimistic, but I feel like they’re going to maybe let players keep their worgens…. just my opinion.

  743. Mania’s Arcania » Blizzard on Worgen Fate - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:55 pm UTC

    [...] have an initial response from Blizzard about the fate of the worgen pet. Zarhym posted the following just a bit ago: It is not intended that Garwal can be tamed while in [...]

  744. Mania - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:58 pm UTC

    I’ve started a new thread to talk about this new development. This one is getting a bit unwieldy.

  745. Petocity - July 6th, 2009 @ 9:58 pm UTC

    I was told by a GM to enjoy the pet while you have it. Wow is a business not a place players can exploit game play. They are not in business to give you the ultimate happiness of keeping this fine pet. I wish they would but it has been decided that you will have a WORGEN WOLF non human form. Hunter’s that have the pet should quit the game if taken away. I might and Good Luck to all.

  746. anon - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:07 pm UTC

    Taming still works on July 7th.

  747. itzzmlgkaiser - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:10 pm UTC

    wait so i dont get it. tommorow we will msot likely not have or worgen?

  748. Scott - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:13 pm UTC

    Good catch Rikaku – I was watching earlier but finally gave up after cycling through the same 5-6 blue comments for the umpteenth time…

    I suspect they were intentionally trying to stay clear of this discussion as much as possible, hoping to shut this down without attracting gobs more player interest by dropping a blue post any sooner than they had to.

    It sounds like internally the spirit ghost debate has reignited; the fact they’ve already decided to halt tames in the near future (tomorrow would be my guess) suggests that the “intended feel” faction has more clout this time around, but maybe just maybe the “creative use of game mechanics” faction might still get us the OK to keep existing tames…

    One thing I noticed in my time at the forums was that this is already very much a hot issue with players – I saw at least one thread auto-lock at the 500 comment mark, 95% of whom supported keeping their new pet. So, that’s something Blizzard is also likely weighing.

  749. Petocity - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:29 pm UTC

    I would hope that we keep the pets. But Blizzard will be Blizzard. If they feel that it is an exploit which they do, then it is tough for them to say, well that tamed pets will remain while no more tames will be possible.

    They have nothing to lose from us hunters keeping our pet. But as I stated above. Don’t be in love with your pet because there is a good chance that you will not have one come the next full moon.

    One GM thinks that it will be removed and turned into a regular Worgen and I hope that he does not have a say. But I am sure that he does participate in the conversations around this type of event. Good Luck VOTE YES to keep pet.

  750. Gelannerai - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:41 pm UTC

    I’m aware this is a pipe dream, but I’ll say it anyway. Make everyone happy. Make all Worgen tameable. Let the Garwal skin remain unique so that those Hunters that were able to tame him still have something for their effort. Lore isn’t really a legitimate argument since we have already been able to tame a demi-god (Loq), an Undead (Crocoslim), a few ghosts (Spirit Wolf, Spirit Croc, Spirit Hydra, and Ghostsaber), and a couple of demons (Vargul Blighthound and Corehounds). Plus, Blizzard is the group writing the lore, if they want to explain it away they can make it fit the lore. The nature of MMORPG lore is very fluid (ie Draenei taking on Van Cleef, Death Knights fighting Illidan, etc.), so it’s a shaky argument to stand on to begin with.

  751. B_Thompson - July 6th, 2009 @ 10:48 pm UTC

    Let’s not forget there are skinable undead, stone elementals that can bleed, and paladins can exorcise anyone, regardless if their undead or possessed. =\

  752. Oomie - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:00 pm UTC

    Blue Post!

    Zennie:
    Worgen pet – what is its fate?
    Well, as many people have heard and spammed the forums about, there’s a new “bugged” pet out there. People have been creating threads left and right for whether blizzard is going to remove the pet from those who tamed it, or just make it not able to be tamed.

    What’s the stance on this? Can we get at least a “We’re currently discussing this issue”?

    Zarhym:
    Re: Worgen pet – what is its fate?
    As you put it Zennie, we are currently discussing this issue.

    It is not intended that Garwal can be tamed while in worgen form and will be addressed via a hotfix in the near future. When we have determined how to handle situations where hunters have already tamed Garwal we will let you know.

  753. Kabuki - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:05 pm UTC

    All Blizzards Worgen Belong to Them….

  754. CobraLily - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:20 pm UTC

    HENCE – Stable your pet tonight

  755. Petocity - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:52 pm UTC

    NOPE HENCE = Tame 5 just in case they do weird patch to erase only worgen < 2. My stable has 5 of them, sure to keep one if they dont patch correctly, lol

  756. Shilaze - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:53 pm UTC

    Got mine with 3 other hunters last night.. 2 dwarf an 2 taurn taking turns to try.. it was a true hunter magic moment… well my best wow moment anyway.. Named mine Amante

  757. Boriz - July 6th, 2009 @ 11:53 pm UTC

    But If you do stable him they wont know if hes a worgen or a normal wolf? or is it safe to keep him there?

  758. Rikaku - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:26 am UTC

    Stabling your pet won’t “hide” him if they decide to hotfix it guys. The coding for your worgen is the same as if he were not a worgen; the coding doesn’t change regardless of where your pet is.

    Long Story Short: If they do fix this pet during the maitenance, there is nothing you can do. Stabling, dismissing, etc will not hide him from a hotfix. =(

  759. Nylana - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:35 am UTC

    I just tamed mine as lvl 71 hunter. Had an 80 hunter who tried 100 times before i got there and just got hers when i arrived, i took me 5 tries to get that magic moment! I hope they don’t change it for the ones who have it already.

  760. Hatersaurus - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:37 am UTC

    Remove pets since I cannot have one.

  761. Shilaze - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:37 am UTC

    Hoping not hot fix.. others kept ghost wolf.. others the hydra an ozz.. so hoping.. foolishly.. they will not fix.. if anything make it not tamable an leaving ones we have alone

  762. Mania - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:04 am UTC

    After two days of intermittent searching, something like 20 attempts and more than five deaths, I have finally tamed my own handsome worgen (on Kaet, who is still only level 71 and who had not done the quest yet). I named him Cry.

  763. Kazador - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:07 am UTC

    Gratz Mania! I was actually right there witnessing your taming, since I’m on your realm, but I’m Alliance and didn’t recognize “Kaet” as being a Mania alter-ego. Thanks so much for putting up the info on this, and I’m glad you finally tamed one!

  764. Mania - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:17 am UTC

    Thanks, Kazador. Yeah, Kaet is a bit lower profile than Mania. (No dwarf pun intended!) I figure my worgen will be a worg soon (someone should set that to music), but I’ll always have my memories of him. :>

  765. Tzivya - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:38 am UTC

    Sadly, my huntress had done the quest, as had my girlfriend’s… But! My girlfriend has a second hunter who is 72, so I got her to let me log in, and nabbed this for her. I can’t have one myself, alas, but I had the fun of working out the timing and whatnot.

  766. Hadés - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:40 am UTC

    Still good at Lvl 71 tamed him at 1036 PST trick was use NO special shots No weapons just kite him to 51% Diengage, Wyyvern shot, start tame at 13seconds. very tricky took a few trys. Good luck to all the Hunters out there and keep at it.

  767. Searina - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:21 am UTC

    After many tries, being a 71 Hunter, I finally tamed this guy with the help of an 80 Troll Hunter. I honestly couldn’t have done it w/o his help, the mobs around were pretty bad while trying to tame. And my own Wyvern Sting was weak for a 71… SO… I would get Garwal down just above 7k HP, have my friend Beefcaake WS him to sleep and then I started tame at 16 secs. When Garwal woke, the WS drained him enough and I tamed right when he was changing!

    Definitely a big thanks to Beefcaake for the taming and Petopia for the info!
    TY TY TY :D

    ~Searina~
    lvl71 BE Hunter

    Blood Furnace

  768. Sekmët - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:22 am UTC

    Man there the easiest way to get him remove your weapon,melee him down whit your hands to 58% then use wyvern sting at 11 sec before its break start taming it ET VOILA! u get him Enjoy!

  769. hellshobbit - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:28 am UTC

    ok so the stupid squire pet is humanoid and blizzard let people have him.. is it that big of a deal to let hunters have humanoid combat pets?? well it is to me. ive been on the verge of dropping this game to start saving 4 a ps3 so i can play gow3 next year.why does blizzard like to keep players from getting anything interesting or different. ive been playing thsi game for almosr 4 years and this is tha last straw… =(

  770. B_Thompson - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:54 am UTC

    Worgan Madness

    ~DPS to 50%, Wyvern Sting, start taming, and have friend shoot him at 1.5 s left.

    ~You can do anything and everything with said pet, save for Arena battles. That will reset him.

    ~You cannot /assist someone to get it yourself. You have to have the quest to summon him.

    ~GMs and staff have been specifically told not to reset this quest.

    ~Shows as a normal wolf in stables.

    ~Paladin and Priest buffs and dispells do not effect the Worgan ‘buff’ on the pet.

    ~Babyspice and size altering effects do not remove the Worgan ‘buff’

    ~Blizzard has not yet announced if they will allow them to be kept or not, however they have stated he will be ‘fixed’ soon to stop taming.

  771. Crowpaw - Terokkar - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:57 am UTC

    Thanks to the two hordsies, Gurrgle & Trigg that helped me out so much while I was trying to tame this handsome pet!

    Hoping they dont take him away seeing as I got him 15 minutes before the servers went down till tomorrow.

    /crosses fingers

  772. Bromide - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:17 am UTC

    I found this.

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18315574519&pageNo=1&sid=1#12

    :(

  773. Kristy - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:21 am UTC

    Finally got the Worgen. Spent some time with level 1 Survival shots before I figured out that that was the problem. Went to a Trainer got all the best shots. After like 3-4 tries at trying to Tame the Worgen I got it this time. Was a 53%. I like it.

  774. Zaik - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:24 am UTC

    This pet is awesome… i know like everyone has just said so, but i just got him, after about 2 hours of trial and error. I really hope we get to keep him!
    Damn Blizzard and their rules and regulations!

  775. Sercewen - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:29 am UTC

    http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1928/sercandmaahes.jpg

    Got him yesterday, hope we get to keep him!

  776. Worgen Pet Hotfix, US Maintenance, Comics — Ulduar - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:15 am UTC

    [...] the Worgen pet didn’t last long.Zarhym on Worgen pet – what is its fate? [...]

  777. CobraLily - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:45 am UTC

    Isn’t it just a skin of a Humanoid and actually a wolf? Kinda Like my Slime is a skin of a slime and is actually a croc. When I scan over my Worgen it’s says Wolf not humanoid so hunters did not tame a humanoid they tamed a wolf with Worgen skin.
    Wow, (no pun intended) I can imagine the hate and discontent they would have on theirs hands if they took away the Worgen skin away. That’s why they usually will just let be what has been done and hotfix the tame and move on. So by all rights they should leave the tamed ones alone and the Easter Egg we found will be just that.

  778. Panzy - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:47 am UTC

    And here comes the long lull between server downage and it coming up. i guess we will see when we wake up if our worgens are still there…i’m nervous.

  779. CobraLily - July 7th, 2009 @ 6:05 am UTC

    As far as GM are concerned they are Customer Service Rep, they are allowed to make certain changes and decisions but when major issues come into play decisions come from upstairs. So you can ask 20 different GMs and get 20 different answers. Letting Hunters keep said tamed pets will not do nothing but create enthusiasm as it did with the other retired pets that were never designed to be tamed. They know if they just hotfix the tame and let Hunters keep their pets and move on it’s End of Story.
    If they do not let hunters keep what they tamed in said form they will having to deal with all the discontent for weeks and maybe even at the convention coming up.
    So Hotfix the tame, leave tamed pets as is and move on.

  780. Yaegar - July 7th, 2009 @ 6:09 am UTC

    Just got mine with another hunter at about 5:30am eastern time. Tried for almost 4 hours on my own before the other hunter showed up. After she got there we took him to almost 50% then wyvern stung him then started the tame. Right before the tame (around 3-4 seconds before) ended the other hunter broke the wyvern sting.

    Really hoping to be able to keep this awesome pet.

  781. Haziza - July 7th, 2009 @ 6:39 am UTC

    I sure hope Blizzard fix this bug as soon as possible =)

  782. Asgrimr - July 7th, 2009 @ 7:16 am UTC

    Still worked as of 7am EST. Took off all haste gear, got him down to 55% or so, disengage, wyvern sting, started taming at 14 seconds left on sting, hit him with druid alts wrath about 1 second before tame completed.

  783. trial - July 7th, 2009 @ 7:50 am UTC

    Named mine ScottHoward : P Arrrrooooooowwww

  784. Ghladium - July 7th, 2009 @ 8:07 am UTC

    They are just now resetting servers, I have a screenshot of my successful tame 3 minutes before server shutdown! :D

    I REALLY hope I can keep him, this is so, so awesome.

  785. tommyjeje - July 7th, 2009 @ 8:16 am UTC

    well if the ooze, spirit wolf and others like the hydra and so are still in game as many hunter’s pet, it isn’t fair that this pet is going to be removed or changed in the weekly maintenance.
    I tamed mine an hour ago with the same strategy as the above.
    so nice ^^

  786. quaffio - July 7th, 2009 @ 8:20 am UTC

    i really do hope that the maintenance on July 7 does not reset him to untameable cuz i just found out how to do it today 20 mins before the server shutdowns and i havent even started the quest chain yet. :(

  787. Azoth - July 7th, 2009 @ 8:24 am UTC

    If only Garwal wasn’t a level 71, I would love to have this on my 69 hunter. Would be quite a showpiece in BG’s.

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  789. Dræven - July 7th, 2009 @ 8:37 am UTC

    I have an 80 hunter, and had help from another 80 hunter to control the taming.
    I had Garwal down to 53% health, at that point my friend used Wyvern Sting to stop him and allow me to back up, going to my maximum distance for Tame Beast.
    At this point, I waited until there was 14 seconds left on the Wyvern Sting to use Tame Beast, allowing the Sting to tick and deal enough damage to Garwal to have him change into his Worgen form, successfully taming him in the Worgen form.

    This was done in multiple attempts to find the correct timing needed, timing varies on individuals latency.

  790. KermoondiaGarona - July 7th, 2009 @ 9:43 am UTC

    It took me two days to finally do it. I am a 77 BM hunter, and I got mine with the help of a Horde Survival hunter and a Horde Pally. I got him to 52% and stopped attacking. Than the Survival hunter hit him with Wyrvern Sting. I started taming at 14 seconds left of the Sting. I also helped a friend do it, but without the Sting, we got him to 51% and he tamed. when he had 2 seconds left of taming, I hit him with an arrow and he transformed. I thing he is a very good pet, and I sure hope Blizzard doesn’t get rid of him.

  791. Crassus - July 7th, 2009 @ 10:22 am UTC

    At least one official Blizzard response, by Ancilorn:

    As we’re sure you know, taming this NPC is unintended and a hotfix will address this. As for the future of tamed worgen, nothing has yet to be decided. The matter is being discussed and if we have something to share about the future of these pets, we will endeavour to do so.

    Found @ http://blue.mmo-champion.com/3/9942035269-worgen-pet-o.html

  792. Longshot - July 7th, 2009 @ 10:40 am UTC

    does anyone know if flare might work to get around the invisible status?

  793. Twi - July 7th, 2009 @ 10:51 am UTC

    @ Longshot

    He is not invisible but so much as time warped like a lot of quests in Northrend. If you are not on the final part of the quest with the buff, he just is not there.

  794. scott - July 7th, 2009 @ 10:55 am UTC

    Flare will not work. If you have already done the quest, you cannot tame his due to phasing.

  795. Saffavia - July 7th, 2009 @ 11:00 am UTC

    @Flint

    This is exactly the moral issue that Blizz may be facing. In the case of the druid tame by the UB boss, it was very clearly indicated to be SLAVERY.

    I didnt even think of this till I described the whole tame and how excited I was to a co-worker (who doesn’t play). She asked “So what is so different about it?”

    I replied, “Well, it looks like a huminoid, and hunter have never been able to tame humanoids–nor are they supposed to.”

    And she said, “Oh yeah, that makes sense, it sounds like slavery.”

    Blizz may be afraid that if they let us keep him they will have an ethical issue on their hands, way bigger than simply making us happy.

    That said, I love my pet cause he is so ridiculous. As a female draenei, he stands about half a head shorter than I am, but he still makes crazy macho, pro-wrestler poses. The visuals crack me up every time

  796. Joolee - July 7th, 2009 @ 11:09 am UTC

    ethical issues over make believe monsters? teheeee :D

    arguments over lore make me giggle too.. like these arent all just stories someone made up? there are no rules here.. if we want new stuff we just make up new stories to work them in. the day wow becomes set in concrete is the day ill know i have to find a new game. fantasy isnt real life :P

    this tame was one of the most exciting things thats happened in wow in months.. im so sad id done the quest. ive always loved wolves so much. i hope you all get to keep the ones youve tamed even tho ill die a little inside each time i see one knowing i was.. online.. new about it.. was the right level.. did the homework about the tame… wouldve loved the challenge.. still no werewolf for me ><

    reset the quest and give us other drooling hunters a chance to tame it then ‘retire’ the tame but keep the awesome fun of a new model PLEASE BLIZZ!!!! <3

  797. Gelannerai - July 7th, 2009 @ 11:20 am UTC

    Ok, so in theory some realms should be back up now. Anyone have anything to report? Worgen? No Worgen? Cat and dogs living together? Total anarchy?

  798. Raban - July 7th, 2009 @ 11:28 am UTC

    If anyone tames him after the downtime today plz post results here. I didn’t realize this could be done, and now it looks like I may have missed my chance:/

  799. Bilcosby - July 7th, 2009 @ 11:36 am UTC

    omg it took me a few trys but i got it down so perfectly on timing that i’m able to catch him everytime now, and like the guy above said i caught 5 just incase :D

  800. Thuren - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:11 pm UTC

    Meleed him down to 7100 hp (actual 7150), dropped Wyvern Sting, at 14 secs started taming and just as he said the magic words, he became my best friend. Success!

    Quite a few hunters around at my server, Horde and Alliance taking turns trying him out. If you let him go too low on HP, just FD and allow it to reset.

  801. Hephastus - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:29 pm UTC

    I Got mine last night just a couple of hours before server went down, i was there for about a half hour on my own, couple of Alliace kept messing me up, >.< but another hunter came, and we helped each other out we both got it, the Alliance left. I got mine to about 67% before wyrven sting, used tame beast at 13 sec, i had viper up the entire time, i got him, so happy. And if any of you are on Jaedenar- Horde and realy struggling with this, just whisper Hephastus in game, I would love to help out. Also i suggest having a freind there to keep mobs/oppsing faction from messing it up. Good luck to all of you trying to get this guy.

  802. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:34 pm UTC

    why do people post useless info about that they tamed it and exactly how?

    now, whats the big deal if he looks like a humanoid? i mean if hes still considered a beast then for all i care he could look like a 2 story tall giant undead dragon and we should then even be able to keep them. i mean its just a damn skin. its not even like it doesnt look like a beast at all. i mean hes a wolf/warewolf standing up with armor. blizzard should let hunters who already have it to be able to keep it or else the other glitched/buged pets should go aswell. i mean the spirt wolf doesnt look any more of a beast then the worgen does, and neither does the slime ooz thing.

  803. Xiongmao - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:46 pm UTC

    Has Blizzard even touched on this subject yet? Or are they just steering clear of it entirely?
    I was just on the hunter forums and a few people have logged on to find that their worgen skins are still there.
    I’m betting Blizzard still hasn’t decided what to do about this, which is probably why they have yet to make any comments for or against keeping it.

  804. Twi - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:49 pm UTC

    @ Xiongmao

    Blizz has stated that it will be hotfixed since it was never meant to be. But they are still in talks over if hunters who have them will get to keep them, sort of like the ghost wolf or the slimes… only time will tell.

  805. koss - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:50 pm UTC

    can the shaman purge take off the skin ?

  806. tommyjeje - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:50 pm UTC

    is still tameable? can anyone tell us? maybe if it isn’t tameable they keep this ’solution’

  807. Bry - July 7th, 2009 @ 12:59 pm UTC

    @Koss – Skin was not purged..

  808. koss - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:05 pm UTC

    @bry ty for seeing if you can purge it.

  809. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:09 pm UTC

    Ok i just got on my character (malestrum server) and i have good new. I STILL HAVE THE WORGEN SKIN! ok so most likely now blizzard is either A. letting hunters keep the worgen pets or B. they didnt even touch anything which would mean that the worgen are still tameable. can someone try to tame it and see if they fixed it?

  810. Gelannerai - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:20 pm UTC

    Can someone who’s already done the quest go see if they can suddenly see him again? Wishful thinking I know, but still..

  811. Runebow - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:25 pm UTC

    SAVE THE WORGEN:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSO0waRuYJo

  812. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:28 pm UTC

    i would do the quest, but i already completed it when i tamed the worgen so i cannt try to tame him again ;p but if you can tame him again then blizzard most likey hasnt touched him yet and theres still a good chance that blizzard might take out existing ones away.

  813. Natty - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:29 pm UTC

    As of July 7, 2009 (after the routine Tuesday downtime) Garwal is still tameable as a pet worgen! I just got mine!! ^^ Being a level 72 Dranny…with the amount of attempts it took, I am glad I have Gift of the Naaru…I also had to take off 3 peices of haste gear so I took a bunch of damage both from Garwal himself and the local wolves in the area. I tried 20 seconds, 19, 18, 17, 14, 13, 12 and then finally 15 seconds…and I got it. I used Wyvern Sting (rank 1). It’s easier to do when no one is on…darn horde.

  814. tommyjeje - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:34 pm UTC

    bad news, because that means they haven’t touch anything and the can still remove then in the next maintenance / patch
    /cry

  815. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:38 pm UTC

    i doubt that they will remove him next patch/maintenance if they havent removed him in this one. tho, im sorta mad that now hes still tameable cuz i was one of the only few hunters on my realm with this pet, now im sure in the next week almost every hunter will have him now.

  816. Swaggah - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:48 pm UTC

    This some bs that hunters that done every freakin quest in the area cant see him or tame him..I went to see if could and no luck ..now in question has it been like this since launch of the expansion…i think so…Im so pissed thats the best skin ever…So im a hater sue me… I hope Blizz fix it and see all the lucky tamers QQ..AION FOR THE WIN!! TY THATS ALL :)

  817. Saffavia - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:58 pm UTC

    As of my lunch break 10 mins ago, my worgen was still a worgen

  818. Icanhascheezburger - July 7th, 2009 @ 1:58 pm UTC

    I fnished taming this worgen at around 5:40am. And I have figured out the trick to getting him! You MUST me 15 seconds into Wyvern Sting or he will revert to wolf form.

  819. Mastian - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:02 pm UTC

    2:00 pm Tuesday, Loaded in, Pulled Garwal from the stables ( I knew it wouldn’t hide him but it made me feel safer.) He is -still- a worgen. Who knows for how much longer, but it seems he’s another week from euthinasia at least. No knowledge of if he is still tamable or not.

  820. Silvertracks - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:02 pm UTC

    I can confirm that he is still tameable. I did the questline as soon as my server came up and I was able to tame him!

    I missed out on the spirit wolf, was getting everything ready when that was taken away. I wasn’t high enough for Sholozar to get the Hydra or the Queen and they were taken. Haven’t had any luck finding Loq or Ghon’dria. Finally, after playing since pre-BC I have an unusual pet!

  821. Mania - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:03 pm UTC

    Since I will likely be making more posts here as we learn more about what’s going to happen with this beast — and since lots of you are coming here directly — I’ve added a worgen series so you can easily find all the blog posts here on the topic. It’s at the end of the original post above.

  822. Jalrythun - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:07 pm UTC

    I’m proposing 2 solutions for blizzard:
    1) make the worgen run on all four legs. Granted this requires
    new animation
    2) make him exotic can’t use wyvern in bm so ….
    Effectively untameable.

    Question: who thought of trying to tame him
    in the first place? My hat goes off to them. Nice work!!!!!

  823. Etona - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:17 pm UTC

    As a L71 Hunter, I tamed him first try. Here’s what I did, I hope this is useful:

    As my weapon skill was high, I used Seth’s Fishing Pole to plink away at his health. I also had a L71 tamed wolf to help me.

    *Set pet to passive, then sent him in to attack.
    *I used the fishing pole, and my tamed wolf to get his HP to 54%.
    *I hit “Follow”, which made my wolf stop attacking, and hit “Escape” to stop myself from attacking.
    *Abandoned my pet wolf.
    *Disengage, then Wyvern Sting, then “Escape” to doubly make sure I wasn’t attacking.
    *Waited until Wyvern Sting had 12 seconds left, then began taming.
    *Voila! I had my very own new Worgen! I named him Argualson, meaning “Son of Arugal”… I’m so clever. :3

    My huntard is Etona of Steamwheedle Cartel, RP-PvE US server, for reference.

  824. sodaz - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:19 pm UTC

    it took me soooo many trys and i saw 3 others get it in front of me so after 3 hours i finaly got him he was at about 61%health and i tamed him when my tranq shot was on 12 seconds and he actualy morphed about a third of a second AFTER i tamed him hope this helps and yes i did this after the server was down it wtill works

  825. Bleys - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:25 pm UTC

    My dear Lupin is still here!!! just logged in after maintenance! :P – Bleys – The Scryers

  826. Morrodin - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:27 pm UTC

    Officially hotfixed, creature is no longer tamable

  827. Sodo - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:28 pm UTC

    Not sure if other people are seeing this but my pet talents for him and the pet bar for the most part just disappeared. Relogged, stabled/unstabled and still gone.

    Also now he is 8 times as large on my char log in screen.

    Still has the graphic but it seems like it might be going soon….

  828. Xiongmao - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:34 pm UTC

    My pets talents are gone as well and I can’t feed him.

  829. Harosh - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:36 pm UTC

    Well…This is bad…Sure you guys can keep your worgens..But no one else can tame them anymore…I CANT TAME THIS GUY! D:

  830. Silvertracks - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:36 pm UTC

    Well something changed, after having him for about 30 minutes, he lost all his abilities, couldn’t bring up talent pane for him to give him more, and his health went down to 5k instead of 11k. Went back out to Howling Fjord to tame again and received an error. Will keep you posted.

  831. Truffled - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:40 pm UTC

    Same here. Can’t feed. No tab for pet talents. Huge on the login screen. It’s almost as if Blizz is saying… “You can keep him, but we’re going to make him practically useless.”

  832. Xiongmao - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:41 pm UTC

    Well it would see they did let us keep the skins….but now he is useless….

  833. Dalir - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:41 pm UTC

    @ sodo

    i got it 2 when i tamed him no problem i specced him an all
    i gief him buff food, and it disappeared

  834. Klingsor Grailhunter - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:43 pm UTC

    Since he appears to be no longer tameable, these tips are basically moot, but it was actually very easy to tame him – we had an assembly line going last night.

    No need to time anything but the tame:

    (1) Damage him to something just above 50% – anything, no need to be precise
    (2) Sting him and immediately start taming
    (3) A second (competent) hunter watches the tame timer, and begins an explosive shot when two seconds are left on the tame – single shot only
    (4) One tamed worgen – a shame I couldn’t tame one :(

  835. Willara - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:44 pm UTC

    Same issue with mine. He was cool for about 30 min but then I went afk and came back to find him talentless and unfeedable

  836. Truffled - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:45 pm UTC

    Also, I had another wolf stabled and it is fine when I switched em out. So whatever they did only affects Garwal.

  837. Abbraxes - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:45 pm UTC

    Tamed him about an hour ago, still works

  838. papamidnite - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm UTC

    WTF blizz i can access the talent tree or spell book of the pet anymore :(

  839. Silvertracks - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm UTC

    Sometimes I just dont get Blizzard.

  840. Abbraxes - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:50 pm UTC

    Addition: Just after I posted I have the same effects now.

    Health -> 5k
    Feeding -> You don’t have a Pet

    Glyph of Mend Pet still makes him happy again ;)

    But no Talents :(

  841. Dee - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:51 pm UTC

    well after doin the quest line and gettin to him i can say for sure the worgen has been hotfixed. this is after maintenance on us servers. anyone who says they have are liars

  842. Batzertzul - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:51 pm UTC

    Not tamable anymore, I can understand. No talent tree and unable to feed him, WTF Blizzard!! We find something cool in your game and the first thing they do is to party crash the entire thing! Sometime I really doubt that the people over there know what they are doing and that the success Blizz is having with WoW could simply be based on sheer luck.

  843. Fampai - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:52 pm UTC

    I just tried, and he was untaimable. It was after 12:45, after they brought down the Northrend world server. I even duel specked for the Wyvern sting to do it.

  844. Velcro - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:53 pm UTC

    Same on EU Servers!

    -huge on login screen
    -not feedable
    -5k health
    -no talent tree

    I just hope they will let us keep him and fix those little problems.

    I mean if they wanted to take him from us he would have been gone by now, wouldnt he?

    Although the “you have no pet” when trying to feed him seems to be a bad omen. lol

  845. Velcro - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:53 pm UTC

    By the way the maintanaince for EU servers is tonight! But it is already untameable as described above

  846. SaintGermain - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:57 pm UTC

    HOT FIXED 7.7.09 11:30 PDT

    You can no longer tame the mob in either form.

    damn

  847. Laiala - July 7th, 2009 @ 2:58 pm UTC

    Seems that Blizz has hotfixed this as of about 2:50 pm server time, Anub’arak.

    I tamed him as a trial before my friend got there with wyvern sting, then 10 minutes later we gave it our first try, said not tameable. However, beast lore still shows him as tameable.

    GG blizz, if you’re going to fix this “bug” that finally gave hunters something fun to play with, at least do it right.

  848. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:02 pm UTC

    im upset that we cant use his talents or feed him and hes almost usless now but atleast we still have him and we can show off =)

  849. KermoondiaGarona - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:05 pm UTC

    As of today, he’s officially gone! He is no longer tamable and I can’t feed him! He doesn’t have a talent tree or moves, and he only has 4k health! I opened a ticket and I hope it’s a mistake. =,( I miss my wolfie

  850. KO - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:10 pm UTC

    On Shandris – US. Just tried taming him and received a “Creature not tamable” error several times.

  851. koss - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:14 pm UTC

    donot try to rename it now i nwwd to get one more.

  852. Wreckless - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:14 pm UTC

    In my case, I couldn’t tame him before the server shutdown, because I found out about him 1 hour before shutdown.I was on my main level 80 Warrior, and my hunter is 73, so I was doing a quick BG, I always do before I log out, and saw the pet in the battleground. I would’ve never found out about if I didn’t see it on that BG, because I don’t hang out on forums and look things up. Anyways I knew he was going to get fixed with this restart or not, so the regular time for the server to come up for me is 2pm eastern time (US) but I tried to log in at 1pm, and the server was back up,so I logged out at the tame location, and I went for the tame right away, it took me 3 times, and I tamed him,played with him a little and named him. I left to Iron Forge and stable him and took him out, just to see what would happen, gave him his talents and took him on a BG game just to test him out in battle, I was in the BG for maybe 10 minutes and when I died and came back his talents where gone,and REAL BIG on log in screen, has a wolf, lol. He does have 9K HEALTH at level 71, since I’m 73, I guess the 5k health is from level 80 Hunters who have him at level 75? Anyways now his useless, maybe they will fix the talents if we bitch at Blizzard and make them feel the wrath, anyways this guy will be history when the new spirit beast (SKOLL) comes out in patch 3.2 >>http://huntsmanslodge.com/2625/skoll.htm

  853. missbiggles - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:22 pm UTC

    O CMON BLIZZ I JUST GOT IT TODAY TOO. GUESS IM A LUCKY ONE TO GET IT JUST AS IT BECOMES UNTAMABLE. I WAS ABLE TO TALLENT IT THEN OUTTA THE BLUE IT DISAPEARS(TALLENTS) LAME AZ SHIT IS WHAT I SAY. BUT EITHER WAY ITS A KOOL PET MAN. I TAMED HIM ON MY 72 HUNTER ANY NEWS OR IDEAS THAT IF I STABLE HIM AND LVL TO 80 IF I REMOVE HIM FROM STABLES WILL HE REVERT TO WOLF?

  854. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:23 pm UTC

    i geuss this is blizzards way of saying , “stfu you can keep, him but fuck you”

  855. Silvertracks - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:23 pm UTC

    I thought mine glitched or something, so I released him to try taming him again. Of course, I couldn’t perform the tame. Had a great cool looking awesome pet for 20 minutes or so. Shouldn’t have abandoned him in case Blizz changes their minds.

  856. megapull - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:29 pm UTC

    i dont get it

    A pet has a skin, and a pet has abilities with talents

    Which one of these was OP to the worgen? The skin

    Which ones they remove? Abilities and talents.

    WTH

  857. Ninwe - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:30 pm UTC

    Update – This is now hotfixed on US servers and Garwal is now untamable

    Confirmed, I couldn’t tame it a few minutes ago :@

  858. Valadria - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:33 pm UTC

    Actually they are still debating whether to revert him to a wolf or not, even the people that have it are not safe atm and if history is any evidence say good bye to your Worgen in the future.

  859. Velcro - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:47 pm UTC

    Again, hot fixed on EU as well.

  860. Ilrahwyn - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:48 pm UTC

    Mailed webmaster-en@blizzard.com in despair. 853 comments in this post now…TAKE A F*CKING HINT! The arrogance of it! Telling users what they want and what they don’t.. We pay you blizzard! YOU ANSWER TO US! If enough people show an interest you may want to foster and build on that, not slap them in the face because your legit in game additions are dull as dish water and don’t warrant the same level of interest..

  861. Natty - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:49 pm UTC

    Ghost Wolf, Hydra, Squishy Green Blobs…those got to be kept!! The only difference here is that this one is cross-species. Really all it would take is for them to put somewhere in the quest log that maybe Garwal is particularly closer to his animal side than to his human side. Deem him mostly beast.

  862. Beastycruz - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:50 pm UTC

    I have this pet, and i leveled him mto 80 right when i got him. When i logged off the next night, i woke up to find him unable to use any talent points, or any petlike abilities like bite, ect. any others have this problem or is it just me?

    Beastycruz 80 hunter
    Nazjatar

  863. Riyan - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:54 pm UTC

    Yep, it’s completely broken now.

    No longer tameable and absolutely worthless other than eye candy so far.

    The fact it has no abilities except for standing there makes it a bad sign.

    It may be gone by the time next week.

    So hang on to it while you can, screen shot away. It may be gone soon.

  864. Winter - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:55 pm UTC

    any1 else have the bug after taming that u cant spend its talents or open its spellbook?

  865. megapull - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:58 pm UTC

    i dont get it. REVERT IT IN NORMAL FORM OR LEAVE IT but dont do this 2 in 1 shitmode. “duuhh give the skin but no abilities.” rather “give skin AND abilities” OR “take away skin but leave abilities”

  866. Mako - July 7th, 2009 @ 3:59 pm UTC

    Well, ive the same problem, mine has no abilities nor talent points, so i stabled him n went back to Howling Fjord to try to tame him again…guess what, “Creature not tameable”…

  867. Petocity - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:02 pm UTC

    I can’t feed mine. He will soon Die. Blizzard is *&*^ hole for doing this. They should clean up their act. We are paying customers and they should realize that because of us they are in Business. More of this and they too will fail and file for BK protection. We decide if they have staying power.

  868. itzzmlgkaiser - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:06 pm UTC

    everyone here should start a pettiton(sp?) or something and tell them we want our worgen to have ablitys, tallents, and act like regular pets! its not fair that people have ghost wolfs and hydras and we cant even have this.

  869. Ronero - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:09 pm UTC

    I tamed this guy last night, and when I logged in this morning i couldn’t access my pet’s talents or abilities pages… the tabs for both just weren’t showing up.. anyone else have this problem?

  870. Krippe - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:09 pm UTC

    Can you still tame it? I’ve tried 20 times, and half of them it transformed when it was on it’s way back to me…on time that is. But still a damn wolf after it. :(

  871. Lincolnpark - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:14 pm UTC

    FUCK BLIZZ!!! I wanted that thing so bad

  872. Ronero - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:17 pm UTC

    aha, just read everyone’s comments… seems i was lucky to get this guy ;D even if he is unable to use abilities i’m still keeping him just for hanging around org… although i’d love for him to actually be useful :(

  873. Mania - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:22 pm UTC

    I understand that people are upset about the situation, but please remember to be civil and respectful to each other (even if you can’t manage that towards Blizzard right now). :> And do please be mindful of your language.

  874. megapull - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:32 pm UTC

    US blue post before post delete:

    We have plans in the upcoming major content patch to remove the ability for players to tame Garwal in his worgan form. We will not however, revert Garwal to his innate form for players who have already gone through the trouble to tame the creature/ humanoid. In addition, we will be fixing the bug that currently demorphs Garwal when he enters arena.

    hope they give him abilites coz who wanna take a pet iwth 5k hp to arena

  875. Ronero - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:37 pm UTC

    Mega, can you provide a link to that blue post? that would make me happy :D

  876. Velcro - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:37 pm UTC

    @869
    Why was it deleted? I bet because they changed their minds

  877. megapull - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:45 pm UTC

    I read it on some EU forums, when it was actually deleted.
    OR (crying)
    its fake since theres a typo in it (worgan)

  878. mortalcombat - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:48 pm UTC

    I agree with the above posters.
    Give us the ability to talent/use pet abilities with Worgen skin or with the reverted normal wolf skin.

    Having a pet with no talent option or resonable combat use is a waste of a pet slot.
    might as well convert him to a non-combat vanity pet.

  879. Ferluci - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:48 pm UTC

    aha, just read everyone’s comments… seems i was lucky to get this guy ;D even if he is unable to use abilities i’m still keeping him just for hanging around org… although i’d love for him to actually be useful :(

    i got the same problem, i hope somebody know wat to do.

  880. sodaz - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:54 pm UTC

    ok i just got mine like 4 hours ago he had all his talents and everything then i log on 2 hours later and now he have no talents moves the only way 2 make him happy is to mend him with the glyph

    ok i now lots of you r mad and so am i but i think since he is now untamable when they were fixing that they srewed up and broke the tamed ones too ive heard that blizz will let any1 who has one keep him and fix the arena glitch but wont make him tameable and if they fixing that glitch i suppose they gunna fix this one too

  881. megapull - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:57 pm UTC

    if they gonna fix it.

    the only question is: WHEN?

    3.2 is too big patch for such little part of the game to be fixed.

    WTB instanthotfix :)

    and WTB blue info for god’s sake

  882. Bullèr - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:57 pm UTC

    AHHHH!!! My Worgen is broken. Damnit!!! Yep, they screwed up the tamed ones. No feeding, abilities or talents.

  883. Impaled - July 7th, 2009 @ 4:58 pm UTC

    well I must admit that hearing about this possibility got me enthousiastic as hell;

    -searching for several fora

    -searching sveral text explains and watching movies.

    -traveling back to ogrimar several times to respec, get back and level up wyv sting, getting bugged with hs cooldown to get back to NR as fast as possible

    -continuing chainQ

    -seeing other hunters come along and try

    -fighting other hunters

    eventualy see hunters help eachother taming this pet, alliance & horde

    -seeing the hunter I “helped” finally getting it after several tries (awesome moment and being happy for that other dude kicked ass)

    -finally getting it myself with fingers crossed and biting my tongue rofl.

    so hell yeah the whole experience was awesome to me and really gave me a cool awesome feeling again.

    let’s hope Blizz will choose for the best option in the end.
    whatever the outcome will be, I do not agree with the other “bugged pets” then need to be nerfed as well I will be “sad” if the Worgen adventure ends but I will be happy for other people whom got some odd pets.

    but seriously guys & girls?; you have got to admit that the whole undertaking of taming the Worgen was exciting as hell:)

  884. megapull - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:02 pm UTC

    The only thing what would stop the endless crying (what has true causes) Would be a blue post.

    Yea. A [i]blue[/i] one.

    Can you hear me out there? I hope you can :)

    And i wait.

  885. gammaraze - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:03 pm UTC

    we should know by next tuesday’s maintenance whether or not blizzard will give our worgens to us in full capacity. otherwise, they could do something a little cooler, not give us abilities, but give us 6 slots, all of which the worgen is currently wearing :P

    @mania, a little off topic, but are you aware that petopia is down? it comes up with a powweb banner and says “This site has been suspended”… where else will i find a one stop shop for all that is wow pets?? /cry

  886. Bullèr - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:03 pm UTC

    Impaled – That is the exact same thing I went through…except for the Ogrimar part, ugh. I was up ’till 4 in the morning helping both Alliance and Horde hunters tame him. I finally went to bed and when I woke up the next morning got him on my first try. It was like Christmas morning!

  887. Bullèr - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:06 pm UTC

    I was DC’d after entering a BG and upon logging back in saw that my pet worgen, which shows up as a wolf on the login screen, was taking up the whole screen. Anyone else see this?

  888. Velcro - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:10 pm UTC

    by the way, I can’t access my glyphs either. Anyone else?

  889. Ryô - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:14 pm UTC

    I agree with Impaled, nice moment and help from both sides (rather uncommon, class before race), and so happy when I finally catch it on a last try some time before the fix :-)

    and Glyph of Mend Pet still makes him happy again ;) yes

  890. sodaz - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:14 pm UTC

    oh ya buller when i first found my worgen was bugged i reloged and the wolf thats normaly there was 8 times bigger then my hunter (this would b ok if i was a gnome but no my hunter is A GIANT 15FOOT TALL TAUREN)

  891. Krippe - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:25 pm UTC

    They made him untamable now (EU servers). :(

  892. Natty - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:26 pm UTC

    I have a 72 BM spec (despite the Surv and MM specs being better) hunter and I noticed something quite odd. The pet doesn’t give you a pet tab in your spell book, indicating you don’t have a hunter pet but it appears in your Character screen. So this is working something like the whistle from Scarlet Monestary. If that’s true you’d be able to tame pets having the worgen out still. But one thing leads me to believe this was a rushed accident. My Worgen does NOT have my Kindred Spirits buff, which makes sense if he’s not being counted as a pet. Despite this, I still have Spirit Bond…WHICH VERY CLEARLY STATES IT ONLY WORKS WHEN YOUR PET IS SUMMONED. So which is it? Is he a pet or not? If he’s not let us have a second, actual pet out (possibly turn this into a Feat of Strength). If he is a pet, give him skills and a talent tree. Make sense?

  893. celia - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:27 pm UTC

    someone has this on my server but theirs didn’t even shrink so it looks extra awesome.

  894. Velcro - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:33 pm UTC

    At everyone complaining about missing spellbook of the pet, and about the login screen size: That is since they hotfixed it! It was working perfectly fine before, but they made him untameable

  895. Natty - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:39 pm UTC

    Mania, I enjoy the ability I have to post freely and even after this worgen ordeal I will probably be a reoccuring visitor BUT…can you maybe do something to move maybe half the posts elsewhere or something? It’s taking FOREVER to load all 900 posts lol…

  896. Aiuk - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:42 pm UTC

    Hotfixed today

    no longer classified a beast when transformed

  897. Drax - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:49 pm UTC

    Seems it was patched. Logged on just now, cant tame him in wolf OR worgen form.

  898. Mania - July 7th, 2009 @ 5:50 pm UTC

    The number of comments in this thread is beginning to stress my blog rather badly. I am shutting down comments for this thread only. Please continue your discussions in the most recent worgen-related post, here: http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/07/07/worgen-apparently-hotfixed/

    Thanks!

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