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	<title>Comments on: GC on Additional Pet Scaling</title>
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		<title>By: King Flanagan</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41152</link>
		<dc:creator>King Flanagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right.. Blizzard has a reputation of nerfing us.. lol and yet.. I am constantly battling indestructible, rabid healing machines known as Paladins.. and what&#039;s worse is that if you get the jump on one of these monsters.. they just put on that Overpowered shield that keeps them safe from harm and restart the process to own you all over again.. and yet Blizz claims they are going to balance them.. I seriously doubt it.. Does anyone know why..? Why are hunters being nerfed to oblivion.. they are either nerfing Pets damage (BM) or explosive shots... or giving us limited options in PvP.  When will the madness end? does anyone know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.. Blizzard has a reputation of nerfing us.. lol and yet.. I am constantly battling indestructible, rabid healing machines known as Paladins.. and what&#8217;s worse is that if you get the jump on one of these monsters.. they just put on that Overpowered shield that keeps them safe from harm and restart the process to own you all over again.. and yet Blizz claims they are going to balance them.. I seriously doubt it.. Does anyone know why..? Why are hunters being nerfed to oblivion.. they are either nerfing Pets damage (BM) or explosive shots&#8230; or giving us limited options in PvP.  When will the madness end? does anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: Rowdypotter</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41049</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowdypotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>double on my earlier post..... just playing Devil&#039;s Advocate here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>double on my earlier post&#8230;.. just playing Devil&#8217;s Advocate here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowdypotter</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41048</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowdypotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly how many of us find a hidden snag here?  How long will it take til the pet scaling (once implemented) becomes so &quot;good&quot; and &quot;too much of a good ting&quot; later on that Blizzard will pull another rug out from under us with a crummy excuse?  They did that with the exotics, and now look where they are (and where BM went).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly how many of us find a hidden snag here?  How long will it take til the pet scaling (once implemented) becomes so &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;too much of a good ting&#8221; later on that Blizzard will pull another rug out from under us with a crummy excuse?  They did that with the exotics, and now look where they are (and where BM went).</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41047</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Resilence and Spell Pen were the most pressing? Does anyone else find that a bit odd O_o I mean sure yeah Spell pen for the non-Hunters and Resilence for everyone, but I would think Haste, hit chance, or expertise would be more important then just those two. But maybe thats me XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resilence and Spell Pen were the most pressing? Does anyone else find that a bit odd O_o I mean sure yeah Spell pen for the non-Hunters and Resilence for everyone, but I would think Haste, hit chance, or expertise would be more important then just those two. But maybe thats me XD</p>
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		<title>By: Ryai</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41046</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTB correct pet pathing again, Jupiter&#039;s been pathing back and forth when trying to get off SS on a target that should be easily shot, aka it&#039;s just around a corner! Honestly I spent 30 seconds waiting for him to decide to finally come back to me, go up a ramp THEN into a room to eat a raider&#039;s face.

And also when are they going to adress the &#039;Cower&#039; bug? I&#039;ve had it affecting talents ON the pet bar now! I never realised my lowest alt&#039;s crocolisk had bad attitude on automatic again, untill I NEEDED it and oops it&#039;s got the glowy bar and it&#039;s still on cd!

TBH while this is a good change, this is not giving us the survivability we need or the pets the fixes they need.

And WTB RoS for &#039;unfixing&#039;. I&#039;ve been abusing it in MGT and ZG, since out of the three of us, my friends and I, I&#039;m the only one who can survive being wailed upon by two &#039;raid bosses&#039;, and RoS has saved me when my friends forgot to heal me.. And less crit chance won&#039;t save us in pvp either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTB correct pet pathing again, Jupiter&#8217;s been pathing back and forth when trying to get off SS on a target that should be easily shot, aka it&#8217;s just around a corner! Honestly I spent 30 seconds waiting for him to decide to finally come back to me, go up a ramp THEN into a room to eat a raider&#8217;s face.</p>
<p>And also when are they going to adress the &#8216;Cower&#8217; bug? I&#8217;ve had it affecting talents ON the pet bar now! I never realised my lowest alt&#8217;s crocolisk had bad attitude on automatic again, untill I NEEDED it and oops it&#8217;s got the glowy bar and it&#8217;s still on cd!</p>
<p>TBH while this is a good change, this is not giving us the survivability we need or the pets the fixes they need.</p>
<p>And WTB RoS for &#8216;unfixing&#8217;. I&#8217;ve been abusing it in MGT and ZG, since out of the three of us, my friends and I, I&#8217;m the only one who can survive being wailed upon by two &#8216;raid bosses&#8217;, and RoS has saved me when my friends forgot to heal me.. And less crit chance won&#8217;t save us in pvp either.</p>
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		<title>By: Aoirselvar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41045</link>
		<dc:creator>Aoirselvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the good old days when your stats didn&#039;t effect your pet whatsoever, they became glorified vanity pets once you hit level 60. We&#039;ve come a long way from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the good old days when your stats didn&#8217;t effect your pet whatsoever, they became glorified vanity pets once you hit level 60. We&#8217;ve come a long way from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Epacsten</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41043</link>
		<dc:creator>Epacsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several hunter pets will actually benefit slightly from spell penetration because their specials are considered spells. Serpents, Dragonhawks, Sporebats, Nether Rays, Windserpents, Chimeras, Wasps, Core Hounds, Spirit Beasts, and all tenacity pets (thunderstomp) will be able to hit more reliably with their spell based specials.

Will it make a big difference? Of course not. At most, those specials will be worth about 9% of their DPS, which would be less than 1% of our total DPS in most cases. I don&#039;t see a reason to complain though. We&#039;re getting it for free along with pet expertise and pet hit, based on our one stat, hit rating.

This is just something they needed to do first. It&#039;s not done yet. I&#039;m sure our pets will scale with our gear in a very intuitive manner once they get it all in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several hunter pets will actually benefit slightly from spell penetration because their specials are considered spells. Serpents, Dragonhawks, Sporebats, Nether Rays, Windserpents, Chimeras, Wasps, Core Hounds, Spirit Beasts, and all tenacity pets (thunderstomp) will be able to hit more reliably with their spell based specials.</p>
<p>Will it make a big difference? Of course not. At most, those specials will be worth about 9% of their DPS, which would be less than 1% of our total DPS in most cases. I don&#8217;t see a reason to complain though. We&#8217;re getting it for free along with pet expertise and pet hit, based on our one stat, hit rating.</p>
<p>This is just something they needed to do first. It&#8217;s not done yet. I&#8217;m sure our pets will scale with our gear in a very intuitive manner once they get it all in place.</p>
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		<title>By: Blacksands</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41042</link>
		<dc:creator>Blacksands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palla is right....... also, what&#039;s the use of having exotics if they are inferior than regular pets... other than a Devilsaur&#039;s massive dps, every other exotic pet went from something &quot;good&quot; to something &quot;blah&quot;.... The bleed thing added to the Rhino a couple of patches ago made no sense if going solo.  I feel they&#039;ve become more or less fashion accessory than something actually useful for the tree.... BM was a viable dps choice AND have a good off tank during the BC glory days, now not so much. What good were extra pet points for talents even if your overall dps won&#039;t make the cut in heroics/dungeons/raid?  I was finally forced to pay up for dual spec just to actually do good dps as a Survival hunter in heroics and let my old BM main spec be used for farming/dailies/solo runs, etc.  

Heh, sorry for ranting..... but again, I think that spell pen don&#039;t make sense to a hunter pet... its more Warlock pet viable since their pet USES mana.... hunter pets don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palla is right&#8230;&#8230;. also, what&#8217;s the use of having exotics if they are inferior than regular pets&#8230; other than a Devilsaur&#8217;s massive dps, every other exotic pet went from something &#8220;good&#8221; to something &#8220;blah&#8221;&#8230;. The bleed thing added to the Rhino a couple of patches ago made no sense if going solo.  I feel they&#8217;ve become more or less fashion accessory than something actually useful for the tree&#8230;. BM was a viable dps choice AND have a good off tank during the BC glory days, now not so much. What good were extra pet points for talents even if your overall dps won&#8217;t make the cut in heroics/dungeons/raid?  I was finally forced to pay up for dual spec just to actually do good dps as a Survival hunter in heroics and let my old BM main spec be used for farming/dailies/solo runs, etc.  </p>
<p>Heh, sorry for ranting&#8230;.. but again, I think that spell pen don&#8217;t make sense to a hunter pet&#8230; its more Warlock pet viable since their pet USES mana&#8230;. hunter pets don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give back Rhino&#039;s knock back!  NAO!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give back Rhino&#8217;s knock back!  NAO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dweezill</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/06/22/gc-on-additional-pet-scaling/comment-page-1/#comment-41039</link>
		<dc:creator>Dweezill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stranger,
  Don&#039;t forget that Boars and Rhinos are both Tenacity pets.  Giving them &quot;dps&quot; abilities doesn&#039;t seem right. i do think that both pet classe need to be buffed up, but not in the way of dps.  I think the knockback ability of Stampede was right on what a Rhino ability should be. but then it was nerfed.  I think both pets deserve something along those lines, but dps abilities.  Otherwise, you will have a comminity full of whining hunters crying that their favorite Tenacity pet didn;t get a dps buff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stranger,<br />
  Don&#8217;t forget that Boars and Rhinos are both Tenacity pets.  Giving them &#8220;dps&#8221; abilities doesn&#8217;t seem right. i do think that both pet classe need to be buffed up, but not in the way of dps.  I think the knockback ability of Stampede was right on what a Rhino ability should be. but then it was nerfed.  I think both pets deserve something along those lines, but dps abilities.  Otherwise, you will have a comminity full of whining hunters crying that their favorite Tenacity pet didn;t get a dps buff.</p>
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