Glyphing the Lackadaisical Hunter
Mission accomplished: My little insane Death Knight has gotten me to log into WoW more this past week without immediately getting confused and disenchanted and logging back out.
On the other hand, she’s mostly just been collecting flowers and pretty gems and occasionally beating the snot out of innocent pterodaxi in Un’Goro. And while she’s fun enough to play, she’s not really satisfying my WoW itch quite right. Apparently I really am addicted to hunters.
So I started thinking (again!) about projects for Mania. I came up with something I think I’ll enjoy (which I’ll tell you about in more detail later). But the first step is getting Mania set up properly.
Getting Set Up ‘Properly’
You may remember — and if you didn’t you should have been tipped off by the title! — that I consider myself a lackadaisical hunter. I am fundamentally lazy when it comes to WoW. I play for fun, not challenge; I’m not interested in min-maxing; I solo almost exclusively because it’s easier and less annoying for me. In short, I putter about like a retired shopkeeper with a basketful of hobbies.
So getting Mania ‘set up properly’ has a very specific meaning to me: it means improving her peripherals (equipment, glyphs, spells, talents) without changing my play style — and without spending too much time or effort figuring out what constitutes an improvement or working to get the upgrade.
The most important component of this philosophy, to me, is that I don’t require myself to change my preferred play style. Not to put too fine a point on it, but what other more knowledgeable hunters consider ‘learning to play your class’ I consider ‘tedious button-mashing’. I am a bad hunter — and I’m very upfront about that!
I don’t deal well with the notion of shot rotations. I turn with the keyboard and get dizzy when the camera moves too much. I am especially bad at using situational abilities because I never pay enough attention to know when the situation is right. So I really heavily on passive abilities, auto-cast abilities on my pet, and a small repertoire of buttons for me to push.
Starting with Glyphs
So anyway, I decided to get Mania set up ‘properly’ as I see it. And I decided to start with glyphs. Talents will be reset with Patch 3.1, and anyway talents and skills are both going to take some study to see where the best lackadaisical choices are. And equipment is a whole big mess (which I will nevertheless start on soon). But glyphs — glyphs are easy!
I started with a post on The Hunter’s Mark and quickly picked out the six glyphs I wanted. I bought the ones I was missing, mailed them all off to Mania … and then remembered that there are some cool new glyphs coming up in Patch 3.1. So then I started all over using Wowhead’s PTR glyph database.
Minor Glyphs
There are only six minor glyphs total (with no new minors in Patch 3.1), so choosing three minor glyphs was no problem. My choices:
- Glyph of Feign Death: Reduces the cool down for more get-out-of-death-free chances.
- Glyph of Mend Pet: Makes the mended pet happier.
- Glyph of Revive Pet: Reduces push back while reviving a dead pet.
I wouldn’t be using the Revive Pet glyph except that the other minor hunter glyphs are even more useless to me. Sure, I get my pet killed a lot, but the chances of me living long enough to revive it *in combat* are almost nil, glyph or no.
But I don’t group, so Glyph of the Pack is pointless. I’d never remembered to use Scare Beast even if I did have somewhere to put it on my hotbar where I’d see it. And the Glyph of Possessed Strength? … *slow blink* …
Major Glyphs
Unfortunately there are lots and lots of major glyphs to choose from — 27 of the suckers! Of which I can only use three at once. My choices:
- Glyph of Aspect of the Beast: Increases the AP bonus of AotB.
- Glyph of Mending: Increases the healing of Mend Pet.
- Glyph of Bestial Wrath: Reduces the cool down on Bestial Wrath.
I spend most of my time in Aspect of the Beast, so that glyph makes a lot of sense for my existing play style. And Glyph of Mending just seems like something I really, really should have to help keep my pet alive — given that I tend to get myself into situations where my pet is sorely wounded due to my own inattention.
However, you might wonder why I choose the Bestial Wrath glyph, given that Bestial Wrath is an active ability and therefore another button for me to press. But between Longevity and this glyph, Bestial Wrath is available often enough that I can put it smack in the middle of my hotbar, train myself it hit it when it lights up, and use it in most fights.
And somehow it really seems like I should do that … like Bestial Wrath is a core ability for Beast Masters, almost. Well, it’s worth a try.
The Runners Up
Some words about the glyphs I passed over:
Glyph of Disengage: I am very fond of Disengage as a skill, but my hope is to avoid situations that require the use of Disengage quite so often. So decreasing the cool down on Disengage didn’t strike me as a great choice.
Glyph of Freezing Trap: This glyph seems really useful to me since I use Freezing Trap a lot … except that it I generally use Freezing Trap to stop enemies attacking me while I help my pet finish off a ranged target. Since I never bother to move away after trapping the attacker, the reduced movement speed after the trap breaks is useless to me.
Glyph of Hunter’s Mark: I had to convince myself not to use this glyph. Opening a fight by marking the enemy is ingrained in my notion of what it means to be a hunter, so of course buffing Hunter’s Mark is good! The problem is that I don’t actually do that any more. I stopped opening with Hunter’s Mark for most fights when Wrath of the Lich King launched. Part of it is that pets no longer benefit from the bonus AP and part of it is that I no longer have to explicitly send my pet to attack, so I don’t pause (and Mark) before attacking — I just right-click. But regardless, if I’m not Marking then this glyph won’t do me much good.
Glyph of Kill Shot: Despite the fact that I prefer passive abilities, I really like Kill Shot. This is entirely because the icon is bright red and only lights up when you can use the skill, generally (for me, solo) once a fight. Since it doesn’t start out red, I really notice the pop when it lights up! On the other hand, if I am only using it once a fight anyway then what good is a slightly shorter cool down?
Glyph of Steady Shot: I considered this one for quite a while, because Steady Shot is the bread and butter of my non-rotation shot-rotation. (I mean that I mash the button a lot.) And I do usually Serpent Sting first. But I didn’t want to drop any of the three glyphs I did choose. If one of them seems to not be working out, though, I’ll try swapping this one in. I amy also start with it if the Glyph of Mending is incredibly expensive right after Patch 3.1.
Advice
Advice this post is not! I have no real idea what I am doing here — and even if I did, my play style is so foreign to that way that most hunters play that it likely wouldn’t help anyone else.
And I’m not really asking for advice either. On the one hand, I’m just going to putter around with this and see how it works without worrying too much about it. And on the other, my play style is again so foreign that much of the best advice you wonderful, helpful commentators might give me would go right over my head.
But regardless, I am very interested to hear about how you glyph your hunters — what tradeoffs you make and why. (I am well aware that much of my value lies in letting my wonderful, helpful commentators give generous advice to anyone who swings by looking for advice, without letting my own weird play style get in the way. *grin*)
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Honestly Mania..I have a 74 un-glyphed hunter..I just don’t spen enough time on him for ‘setting him up properly’ to be much of a concern. However, I may start playing him again in 3.1, so I too am interested to hear(read?) how other hunters have their hunter or huntress’ geared and glyphed up.
Get yourself a gun. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44504 I probably have a few in stock. ( all those pesky heroic runs gearing peoples alts )
- Vaf and Lucy
I mostly Run with , Glyph of Bestial Wrath , Serpent Sting , and Steady Shot right at this moment , but that could change when the patch hits . The reason why i have those is cause i raid a lot …so i need to be at my top gain for my spec
i might roll the Glyph of Mending , or Kill shot when 3.1 hits . I know i roll the Kill shot one on a Dual spec
Wow Mania…thanks for reminding me I really should glyph up my hunter XD
I haven’t played her too often since Wrath came out, since most of my chars are Horde and my hunter is Alli on a totally different server…but everytime I go back to her, it’s all about the leveling and I totally forget the glyphs! Thanks for the reminder :)
-Velkyn
I am a raiding Hunter, so I use different ones:
Major:
Aspect of the Viper
Beastial Wrath
Steady Shot
Now steady shot is an absolute *MUST HAVE* if you are a raiding Hunter. Mania solos (and from my experience reading her blogs, doesn’t raid though I could be wrong XD) so that’s understandable. If you don’t raid (or plan to raid) you won’t need Glyph of Steady Shot. However, if you plan to raid, every single BM shot rotation has this glyph plugged into it. With Steady Shot being BM’s bread and butter, you need to buff it up as much as you can.
Beastial Wrath, works great with Longevity. My BW cooldown is 1 min and 17 seconds. Hell. Yes. I love it.
Aspect of the Viper is, yet again, an essential Raiding Hunter glyph. The lower your downtime in AotV, the more dps you can dish out.
Minor Glyphs:
Feign Death
Mend Pet
Revive Pet
Feign Death: Explained above, pretty useful.
Mend Pet: Currently it increases your pets happiness. In 3.1 it will increase how much your pet is healed by. This glyph is perfect for those raiding with pets who seem to die alot. From my experience on the PTR, you plug this glyph in with improved Mend Pet and you have an awesome super Mend Pet that will keep any raiding pet alive. Also, try it with Blood of the Rhino. literally a Paladin in your Pocket.
Revive Pet:
Ok this one is tricky. I took it as a toss up, but overall it’s nice. I use this with Impr Revive Pet for those situations when my pet dies and Heart of the Phoenix is on cooldown. This glyph + Imp. Revive pet = love.
Ok, so those are my glyphs, they may not be for everyone, but since this was a glyph topic, I thought I’d share. I also originally had Glyph of Hunter’s Mark, but as I am usually not the only Hunter at the raid and since the other Hunter *is* specced for Hunter’s Mark (improved), I am not on HM Duty. If you *are* the Hunter with Improved Hunter’s Mark and you are the only raiding Hunter (or the only Hunter with improved HM) you *should* take Hunter’s Mark Glyph.
Remember, any glyph you get that is for Hawk or Monkey (ie. Glyph of Aspect of the Monkey) does *still* apply to Aspect of the Dragonhawk.
Rik-
I have the Exact same minor glyphs that you have, as do most hunters period i believe, but one of the guild leaders in my guild (former class officer until promoted, hunter) and my current CL don’t place AotV very high for raiding glyphs.
This may be because we don’t raid as BM (still all of ours’ favorite spec whatever the dps is, we just dont raid in it) and we almost all have replenishment in our specs (besides the MM hunters [about 2-5]) so we don’t run out of mana very often. We usually roll with Glyph of SrS, because that gives us 6 sec. of extra dmg, plus it saves us 4 GCD that we can use on either SS ES or MS… although for a BM hunter, it would make since without the replenishment.
Just my 2 cents-
Gimlion of
Nordrassil
Sorry to correct you , but the minor glyph of mend pet is staying the same.
They are changing the Glyph of the Monkey to Glyph of Mending – the healing pet one , so it is a major.
Quote from Blizzard staff
Glyph of the Monkey: This glyph has been converted to Glyph of Mending, which increases the healing done by Mend Pet by 40%
Mania;
You do realise that now the double-dipping is fixed on AoTB, you’re better off in Dragonhawk? I’d drop the AoTB glyph. In it’s place…well…yes, steady.
Rikaku – Rather, if you’re dropping into AoTV enough to make the glyph worthwhile you’re doing something wrong (unless you’re MM, which you clearly are not), or have a raid group which is very badly unoptimised. Even in 10 man, neither BM or SV should have a high mana burn rate (and MM’s is being addressed in 3.1 by the new RR talent which turns rapid fire into a mana potion and the Chimera shot cost reduction).
Zalenna:
You’re absolutely right and I completely meant to correct that! Thank you for pointing that out. I meant to correct it but had to do some school tests *cough* so yes. You’re *absolutely* right =D I meant that I would be switching from Mend pet to Mending. Thanks for the correction =)
Gimlion:
That was one of my “toss up” Glyphs. However, my Hunter CL says the exact opposite of that XD There’s no “right or wrong” way to glyph your toon, it’s purely something you want. Also, one has to keep in mind that it all depends on your raid and the players’ therein =)
Ketari:
It’s not so much as “worthwhile” as so much as “not as useless to me as different glyph” is. XD I don’t think anyone’s doing anything wrong or unoptimised. My guild seems to have no problem downing everything in-game so far and has it all on farm-status, so I can’t complain. Like I said, glyphs are personal preferences.
Ketari: I suspect I missed the significance of the AotB chances. Could you tell me more about that?
Glyph of Mend Pet is broken anways Rik, if you have imp Mend Pet; the Glyph doesn’t work, I’ve tested it. I’ve even switched out new glyphs on Ryai, on Yasindra and on Sydria, it’s broken.
Blizzard won’t admit this, they won’t fix it, and instead give us a major glyph instead of just making the minor mend pet- into this.
I’m still working out what glyphs to get, if I do go back to Ryai being more than just a farmer for mats n gold for alts [and debts I owe].
My only minor glyph tbh is FD.
And Mania; that useless minor? It’s for PVP. I’ve seen hunters use it on the bridge in AV when we’re zerging to Vandar, it’s evil.
Which is why I take great pleasure in killing their pet and then killing them, kill our healers huh? 8D
DANTE AND ANGELUS EAT WELL.
*Shot*
But outside that yeah the glyph is pretty useless.
Ryai:
I don’t have Imp Mend Pet. In the patch I think the bug was addressed? Not sure. But since I dont have Imp. MP that’s why I still have mine.
*by patch I meant 3.1 XD
Mania, I do disagree with you as a hunter. You are great!
Now, for glyphs. My major are Improved AtH. I got it a long time ago before I had dragonhawk and have totally forgotten about it. (blush). I do have serpent sting and steady shot as they are my basic shot rotation and I feel as they quicken my kills especially when I throw in Arcane shot as often as I can. I have even thought I might want the Arcane shot glyph for the mana return.
I have a very nice guild which lets me go about my huntering in my own silly way, but are kind enough to invite me to dungeons and raids and even keep me alive when I feel adventurous. And I mean that seriously, but that’s a whole different story. But because of their kindness, I have thought I’d like to glyph a bit to be more useful to the team even though they have told me not to worry about it.
On that note, I’d like some feedback on monkey or arcane or even bestial wrath. I want them all plus serpent and steady.
My minor glyphs are FD, mend pet, and revive pet.
And my last question is, what the heck is “pushback”? I’ve never been able to revive a pet in battle that I can recall. I seem to remember getting an “I can’t do that because I’m in battle” being yelled at me.
Patricia:
You shouldn’t be getting that error at all O_o Revive Pet can be cast at any time, combat or not. Pushback is when you’re channeling a spell and something hits you, knocking your cast bar back down a bit.
Minors: Mend Pet, Feign Death, Possessed Strength.
Majors: Aspect of the Viper, so I can get out of it faster and get back to dpsing, Serpent Sting, so I can get more LnL procs, and Steady Shot, since I like the extra damage. I need to ask my hunter officer about that… :P
My own glyphing is similar: the minor glyphs are identical to 99% of the hunters out there (Feign Death, Mend Pet, Res Pet… can’t they give us some better minors so there’s *some* difference?), though in major I actually use the Monkey Glyph. It’s fantastic for kiting when enemies are after you, and actually a pretty solid little toy for raiding as well. Getting attacked, and your dodge is high? *ZIP* and you can run to the tank quicklike. And kiting at Gluth is a breeze, and a heck of a lot of fun, as well.
I’m going to miss it when it’s removed. It’s my favorite toy. It really is. :(
Yea i dont like the fact that Mend pet glyph is a little buggy and wont work , but that is not a problem and more than likey cause we have pet talents that bring up happiness, Maybe that is why Blizz is being lazy on that , as well as Snake Trap and the Cower bug , they still wont fix those
“And the Glyph of Possessed Strength? … *slow blink* … ”
And this is the part where I started laughing. Hard. Such a perfect mental picture!
Hunters Kite the Zombies at Gluth , that is weird. We should only Traq Shot him and lay down Frost traps for the Kiter ( Paladin or Death Knight )for the Zombies
I can tell just by your glyph choices that you’re a beast mastery spec’d hunter.
Rikaku: Understand I’m a designer by trade and a theorycrafter.
Essentially, *especially* on farm status content where you’ll have faster kills and more leeway beause of overgearing, I’d expect AoTV to be very rarely used. And it’s contribution, even per some pretty generous assumptions in the Hunter DPS spreadsheet is very low.
There’s more choice in glyphing than in say, gemming, but honestly the AoTV glyph can’t be considered anything like optimal.
Mania: AoTB was double-dipping, and granting 21% additional AP, 25% with the glyph. But that’s now fixed and it’s only adding 10%, 12% with the glyph. At 12%, it’s lower DPS than the dragonhawk aspect even in Uldular gear.
‘and more than likey cause we have pet talents that bring up happiness, ‘
Cunning pet talent bugs as much as the mend pet glyph- I’ve had the pet not feed, or begin to feed then all of a sudden it switches off, even if not in combat, or it keeps giving a ‘target error’.
Cunning pets should just have Carrion Feeder as an automatic passive talent, and is used whenever out of combat and when a corpse is near by to munch when low on happiness.
But anyways I mostly used the glyph and mostly want it as for DPS pets, it’s gonna be stretching a little thin for happiness generated if they die and need to be rezzed.
Stupid tree bloat e.e
Rikaku,
You may be correct. It’s been so long since I revived pet while in combat, it may have been something that happened years ago. And usually if I have to revive the pet now, it’s because I died first or I’m in a raid and not paying attention, like pulling him back when the lava wall comes. lol
Ketari:
That’s fine and well, thoughI’m not a theorycrafter, I never will be one; I am not a hardcore raider nor would I want to be one. I am a happy casual who occasionally gets a raid fix. No offense, but I prefer to play my way, and as such, I will glyph my character accordingly. If I like Aspect of the Viper glyph, I like Aspect of the Viper glyph. It should be apparent I’m not trying to maximize anything, otherwise I wouldn’t currently be BM.
When I say things are on farm status, I mean my guild’s more serious raiders do. As someone who still can gear from Naxx 25, I am not part of the usual raid squad. So when I say it’s useful, I’m saying from the standpoint of someone coming out of 80 Heroics into Naxx.
Is Serpent Sting more useful? Probably. If it is, terrific. But until I do manage to not run out of mana during a Kel’Thuzad fight, I’m gonna use my AotV glyph.
Ketari: Ahh, I see what you are saying now about Aspect of th Beast. But that’s not why I was using it.
seems to me that we share a very similar playing style. Often times I am watching a movie or playing on my DS while mashing the steady shot. my hunter tends to be my lazy laid back character…slight bit of RP on it, though not on an RP server. Actually last week I decided to actually read up what spells I can use…most are useless for me…as for glyphs, I just told the guild inscriptor to send me 3majors and 3minors, what ever was best for a BM and I put those on…dont know what they were, just assumed they where good :P
Gear wise…anything with AP, hit, crit, haste…or just looks “cool” and for fun I made an “Oh shit” button of /castsequence Deterence,disingage,fiegn death for those things that get past my partner in crime (Aka My pet)
but otherwise, yeah, lazy point click steady shot, DS/movie etc :P
I remember reading here that aspect of the beast was great for solo play giving the pet more dps then you, and in theory more threat. I’ve used this trick for pets I’m leveling, pretty clever.
I run with hunters mark serpent sting and steady, then the usual suspects for minor.
I’m really excited about glyph of mending, I missed out on the t6 set bonus. There are a lot of elites I’d like to say hi to, mending will be a must for my solo spec.
I also am a very lazy hunter and i play more for the fun of exploring what my characters can do in farming and not what uber damage they can or cannot do , however as a purely BM level 72 ( yes i know she should have been 80 by now ) i do use some Glyphs like the steady shot and the serpent sting as my majors and the feign death and mend pet minors and just spotted that i can get another minor one.
I also am very lazy in using anything other than auto shot unless i am taking far to long to kill things , but the way i look at it i can if needed beat a lot of bad level 80 hunters in the amount of dps i can pull off if i really wanted to so what i have is my best thoughts on my lazy play style.
“Hunters Kite the Zombies at Gluth , that is weird. We should only Traq Shot him and lay down Frost traps for the Kiter ( Paladin or Death Knight )for the Zombies”
I actually am usually on zombie duty for a few reasons… On 25man, I simply lag WAY too much to be able to wade all the way to the back of the room to drop a trap, then lag my way back into range to pewpew the zombiepuppy… And since in 25man I’m not the only hunter there to tranq him, my guild prefers me in the back, playing with zombies, because I’m a way better kiter than our pallies and DKs anyway.
Now, on 10man, I might just be the only hunter, but with less people I can actually get a good enough frame rate to pewpew AND drop frost traps. :P
*cough* But yes, glyphs! I’m MM, and I run with the three not-sucky minors, plus AotV, serpent sting, and steady shot for my majors. There’s probably a more optimal set out there (since SS is my “all my other buttons are on cooldown” button and I don’t use it very much), but I don’t want to do any tinkering before the patch… And for now, these work (and are enough to put me ahead of most comparably-geared SV hunters I’ve grouped with :P)
I could totally see taking the AotB glyph, though – I use that aspect when soloing, if only so I have a bit less of a DPS advantage over my bear. And I might pick it up if I can ever dredge up the money for dual-specs, so I can make a BM tanky-pet soloing build. I want my Gaerwin to tank Onyxia without any help, damn it!
well im a lvl 70 hunter and i need a glyph. thtswatshesd has never had one. c ya im off to go get one!!!
Mania: Well, in general I’d not expect BM Hunters in non-raid gear to pull agro off their pet even with Dragonhawk active, unless they were still leveling their pet.
Arnen: MM has a high enough mana burn rate that the AoTV is very arguable. That does change after 3.1, though, since with Rapid Killing 2/2, Readiness and Rapid Recuperation 2/2, you’re looking at 40% mana return every 3 minutes from that alone.
Also, well, I’ve done zombie kite duty as Gluth before. Sure, there are better classes but when the healers don’t really feel they need tranquing and/or the mage dies…
I know the minor glyphs are kinda hard to choose from, but for all the wrong reasons. But from my experience, glyph of mend pet is horrible. Just to try it, I dismissed and summoned my pet until its happiness was down to “unhappy” and pretty much had to use my entire mana bar casting mend pet to even get it up to medium. I tried just casting it and letting it tick, I tried spamming it. To me its better to just use food. and if you have the pet talents to raise happiness, just go kill some stuff and it’ll be back up to full in a fight or two. XD
I actually do some raiding so glyph of the pack isn’t quite so bad.
Possesed strength will probably end up in my bm tanking spec, once dual specs come out. If your pet is doing more than 50% of your damage, and you are going to use eotb to position for a fight, it makes sense to have the extra damage for threat purposes.
Ihlos; you have to keep controll of the beast, for it to keep having the buff; the restriction is it has to be channled, it has a range limit [LoS] and it has a time limit [one minute] and alot of boss fights do not afford you the time to safely go and allow yourself to control your pet like that.
So .. no even tho I’m gonna be a BM tank untill my pally is high enough, I’d not use it, the boost to AotB is better than the EotB glyph imo.
“Glyph of Mend Pet: Makes the mended pet happier.”
I got this glyph, then tested it. My pet’s happiness went down to yellow after a death, and I sat there cast Mend Pet until I was blue in the face. Happiness never, ever went green. I must have cast that spell two hundred times, letting the full effect run out and casting it again. Nothing. Useless.
wtb Glyph Of The Gigantic Stable…
Lil Noba has no minor glyphs cause im lazy. For major, I took the improved hunters mark, because I use it about all the time. I also have Glyph of Steady Shot (im SV and try to keep serp sting up, so why not?)… my final glyph needs replacing. I had put in glyph of improved aspect of the hawk thinking “i use dragonhawk aspect, haste is good!”. Genius me, did not realize it improves the TALENT for that aspect.. Which i only have 1 point in now that i’m Sv. Dur. Maybe I should pop glyph of kill shot in there instead.
It’s funny how we all play totally different. I don’t max-min, but I have a slight obsessive organization problem. This comes out most in my 58 DK. I am so stressed and frazzled if i try to hit random buttons (even though dk is so OP it works!). It upsets me greatly to not know what i’m doing and what goes with what. Even if its not max best rotation, I just have to know what it does. Lol, my DK is driving me crazy now that I got this one spell that uses TWO different runes. I can’t for the life of me decide if it should go with it’s unholy buddies or it’s frost buddies. o_o It’s to the point with my spellbars that I desperately want an addon where I can put word tags over sections of my bars. Like “emergency”, “pvp”, “dot”, “boom then dot”… ect. lol
Korzak:
It’s already been confirmed that if you have the talent “Improved Mend Pet”, the glyph *will not* work at all. I can confirm that this glyph DOES work if you do not have Improved Mend Pet.
@Ketari: Actually, with Readiness having a 3 minute cooldown, I don’t see much point in taking Rapid Killing. That would just take Rapid Fire’s cooldown down to 3min (the same as Readiness), and if I’m in a position where Rapid Killing is going to proc with something still left alive, I’m probably going to be spamming volley anyway instead of using one of the three shots it works with. Hell, if I don’t notice any mana problems without it, I might not even take Rapid Recuperation in favor of more DPS.
But then again, I could be wrong. I’m going to just wait and see.
Ryai-
On your statement about the Cunning pets corpse munchies spell, it works just fine for me, you have to be almost right over a corpse, your pet won’t just walk over to it and feast away. I don’t happen to know why it would dispell or cancel the effect midway, but there are certain corpses you can’t munch on (or your pet that is). This is Elementals, and I believe another that i can’t seem to remember at the time, so that is another reason your pet might not be chewing on a corpse when you tell it to
The other one is mechanical. I know your pets need a bit or iron in their diet, but not that way. =P
haha, that’s just stupidly obvious, how did I miss that? TYVM
Major: SS, SrS, BW
Minor: Scare Beast, Mend Pet, Revive Pet
The Mend Glyph/Imp Mend bug is fixed in 3.1.
My hunter is survival for now. I love BM but dropping to nr 9 or 10 on the dps meters hurt too much.
Anyway, as SV my glyphs are Steadyshot, Serpent Sting and Improved Aspect of the Hawk, with FD, Revive and Mend Pet as minors.
My dual spec will be a solo/tanking BM spec with Bestial Wrath, Steadyshot and the Healing one with the same minors.
@Mania: Don’t think the Steadyshot glyph will be much good for your playstyle, against non elite mobs you hardly notice the boost it gives (might take one more autoshot to kill the mob). I did take it because I want to tank stuff, and with my T5 any damage boost is good. http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=37381
Thanks for getting me started on this btw, need to make a little study of the new glyphs but have been lazy :P
Hm, I think if I do make a dual solo/tank BM spec, I’m gonna take BW, AotB, and mending.
@Arnen -
You do this: Rapid Fire. Readyness. When RF has finished, RF again. 3 minutes later, both RF and Readyness cooldowns are up.
So it’s useable twice every 3 minutes with 2/2.
IMO Minor Glyph of mend pet is the ultimate in lazy hunters. No more needing to bother feeding your pet, or carrying food. Simply heal them a few times and BOOM happy again. I rarely carry any food for Dundee my croc, when he gets grumpy I simply heal him to make him happier!
My main spec as hunter is Beast Mastery. the Major glyphs i tend to use are: Glyph Steady Shot, Glyph of Volley, and Glyph of Bestial Wrath.. the glyph of bestial wrath is VERY useful if you have Kindered spirits, Unleashed Fury, and Longevity as talents because with your pets attack increased by about 80% you should be sweeping fights very quick, and it break fear, stuns, snares, etc as well which really comes in handy for the occasional PvP fight here and there.
I know this is probably a bit late, but I’d pass on the Aspect of the Beast glyph in favor of the one for steady shot. You’re probably putting serpent sting up on whatever spec you’re using, so regardless of min/maxing, you’ll benefit from the choice.
There really honestly isn’t much reason to run around with anything other than Aspect of the Dragonhawk up, since you get the upped dodge/survival from monkey and attack power from hawk, but I figure you have your reasons. :) I mean, sure, aggro might be less of an issue based on above posts, but honestly, with ALL tanking pets getting thunderstomp today, that hopefully will no longer be an issue.
I will be interested to see how aggro feels after the patch, especially since I also intend to upgrade some of my equipment at the same time. But keep in mind that I hunt primarily with a cat — and they, unfortunately, will not have access to Thunderstomp.
…Thunderstomping cat would be weird. And awesome.
Would it be a Thunder Cat? >.>
Ah, good deal! So you’re pretty much focusing on single targets anyway then. DPS pets can actually be pretty good about holding single target aggro, especially when you’re BM and not doing as much personal dps (or at least that was the case when I was deep BM last and was wont to running around with my big green devilsaur rather than my crab). Makes sense! You’re probably more inclined to use CC then on multiple target pulls? Or no? :o Just trying to figure out what you’re comfortable with to offer appropriately helpful advice while still attempting to up overall passive dps. ;)
Hmm…if I’ve armoried you correctly, you could always pop a point or two into imp hawk for faster autoshots (which shouldn’t mess with aggro too horribly much) and get the glyph for improved aspect of the hawk to give another boost to it. (I’d probably pull a point from frenzy and one from go for the throat to do it.) Just tossing that out there as a possibility. ;D And as a side note, WOW, the armory shows glyphs and such now, plus dual specs. That is pretty amazing!
I went for:
Major Glyphs :
Glyph of the Monkey : Increases healing done by your mend pet ability pet by 40%
- The more healing the better!
Glyph of Beastial Wrath : Decreases the cooldown of BW by 20 sec.
- More beastial wrath.. need i say more?
Glyph of Hunter’s Mark : Increases the AP bonus of HM by 20%
- It was either this or a longer Serpent Sting.. I chose this as at 76 u get HM to give 300 AP.. with this glyph thats now 360.. an extra 60 AP on all ranged attacks is a nice extra IMO.
Minor Glyphs :
Glyph of Feign Death : Reduces cooldown of your FD spell by 5 sec.
- Easily the best Hunter Minor Glyph!
Glyph of Revive Pet : Reduces the pushback when casting RP by 100%
- I always use a tenacity pet, so this isn’t a ‘must’ but you never know when ya might need it.. and the other Minor Glyphs suck
Glyph of Mend Pet : Your MP spell increases your pet’s happiness slightly.
- Again this is just to fill the slot.. But a happy pet is always a plus
Mania’s Arcania » Gearing the Lackadaisical Hunter - Weapons - April 16th, 2009 @ 8:31 pm UTC
[...] Earlier this week I spent some time thinking about how to get Mania ’set up properly’ — where that means improving my glyphs, gear and whatnot, but only so far as it’s easy and convenient. Today I took a first look at upgrading my equipment. [...]
for minor glyphs I use the same 3 you use mania.
my choice of major glyphs depends on spec:
for Beast master spec:
bestial wrath- for the same reason you do- I like seeing my pet in big red form as much as possible.
steady shot- since I mandatorially use serpent sting and steady shot I would like them to work together.
kill shot- for long fights, either in raids or soloing elits, i found that this really makes a difference. when I am lucky and 2 kill shots crit the mob gets some 20k damage when I really want to end the fight already. it feels good to see nice chunks of hp go down so close to the end of the fight.
for Survival spec:
I spent most of my time in BM spec so my gear is more crit oriented and I am lacking alot of haste so glyph of the hawk combined with improved aspect of the hawk prooves to be a very useful combination.
I also use rapid fire glyph for the same reason- to get some more haste- though really I would like to get better haste gear and change this to a new shiny post-patch glyph like explosive shot (once its available).
and my last glyoh is my old favorit- steady shot which as I said above I simply like.
I hope you found this answer interesting :)
-wit
I generally take feign death, mend pet and scare beast as minors – occasionally I’ll swap in something like possessed strength or revive pet, but they tend to end up as “sounded fun but only got used once or twice” (now, if they would have left dragonhawk firebreath as an AOE, possessed strength might be something to rave about…)
For majors, the only “must have” for me is Mending, which always comes through for me when I’m taking down a group of mobs… but for someone who primarily does raiding or pvp it may not be the best choice. The other majors completely depend on my spec (although as others have noted steady shot is always a safe choice).
I’ve got the Mend Pet and the ranged Dragonhawk thingy glyphs… Like you, i also can’t be bothered gearing this toon much. everything she wears is from quest rewards, rep vendors or bought cheap from the ah. i only play her when i feel like questing again (my main is a lv80 holy priestess) or when i need meats!!
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