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	<title>Comments on: Raw Data on Pet Stats in PTR 3.1 [updated]</title>
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		<title>By: Rayquaza7996 (Raydex of Dawnbringer)</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38834</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayquaza7996 (Raydex of Dawnbringer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/victory
Awesomeness! The stats are like Cunning&#039;s!
I a lvl. 36 BM hunter, and I am Cunning-obsessed. Only three things could probably get me out of cunning-dragons (not gonna happen, we should be happy with our wind serpents) the Daggercap Hawk (it&#039;s a carrion bird. MINI-DRUID!) and Hydras*

Anyways, I think this&#039;ll be really good for my Daggercap Hawk. It keeps dying. I should probably go after some tenacity pet, but...nothing odd and wonderful had caught my eye that I can tame. Now it won&#039;t die as much, so it&#039;ll live longer (duh) and I&#039;ll be safer. (It pulls great aggro, but I&#039;ve found Wind Serpents pull INVINCIBLY. Deadlock, my Deviate Dreadwing, is win.) 

Anyways...as for tenacity, I love crocolisks. All of them. Crocslime, Hydralisk, boring old Dreadmaw from Durotar, or Deviate Crocolisk (which=WIN). But I couldn&#039;t keep one, because I needed more DPS. Now, though, they&#039;ll have (if not great) better DPS than before.

*Please, Blizz, I want hydras. MAKE THEM TAMEABLE AND I WILL ALWAYS BUY YOUR STUFF! I WILL EVEN BUY ONE OF YOUR OVERPRICED HOODIES! MAYBE EVEN TWO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/victory<br />
Awesomeness! The stats are like Cunning&#8217;s!<br />
I a lvl. 36 BM hunter, and I am Cunning-obsessed. Only three things could probably get me out of cunning-dragons (not gonna happen, we should be happy with our wind serpents) the Daggercap Hawk (it&#8217;s a carrion bird. MINI-DRUID!) and Hydras*</p>
<p>Anyways, I think this&#8217;ll be really good for my Daggercap Hawk. It keeps dying. I should probably go after some tenacity pet, but&#8230;nothing odd and wonderful had caught my eye that I can tame. Now it won&#8217;t die as much, so it&#8217;ll live longer (duh) and I&#8217;ll be safer. (It pulls great aggro, but I&#8217;ve found Wind Serpents pull INVINCIBLY. Deadlock, my Deviate Dreadwing, is win.) </p>
<p>Anyways&#8230;as for tenacity, I love crocolisks. All of them. Crocslime, Hydralisk, boring old Dreadmaw from Durotar, or Deviate Crocolisk (which=WIN). But I couldn&#8217;t keep one, because I needed more DPS. Now, though, they&#8217;ll have (if not great) better DPS than before.</p>
<p>*Please, Blizz, I want hydras. MAKE THEM TAMEABLE AND I WILL ALWAYS BUY YOUR STUFF! I WILL EVEN BUY ONE OF YOUR OVERPRICED HOODIES! MAYBE EVEN TWO!</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38762</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zwicky is correct. I&#039;ve updated the post to explain the discrepancy and how it got past me. *grin*

Good save, Zwicky! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zwicky is correct. I&#8217;ve updated the post to explain the discrepancy and how it got past me. *grin*</p>
<p>Good save, Zwicky! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Zwicky</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38746</link>
		<dc:creator>Zwicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just realized something.  I think Mania might have been right/wrong when she reported the 30% number.  I went on live and noticed something, when you look at your stamina is says that so much goes towards your pets stam.  This number is in fact only 30% of the hunter stam.  However when i go onto the pet tab to look at his stam is is much different than the 30% number.  It calculates out to be our 45% number that we were told was how they were scaling.  I think that the % mania reported is just a bug in the Hunter char window (it says 30 when we are infact getting 45).  I am not positive without mania letting us know how she came about this 30% number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized something.  I think Mania might have been right/wrong when she reported the 30% number.  I went on live and noticed something, when you look at your stamina is says that so much goes towards your pets stam.  This number is in fact only 30% of the hunter stam.  However when i go onto the pet tab to look at his stam is is much different than the 30% number.  It calculates out to be our 45% number that we were told was how they were scaling.  I think that the % mania reported is just a bug in the Hunter char window (it says 30 when we are infact getting 45).  I am not positive without mania letting us know how she came about this 30% number.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiritbinder</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38729</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiritbinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rikaku

I just posted on your thread as well to hopefully bump it back up to get a little attention. I have never posted of the official boards before but I truly feel it was a worthy thread.

Keep up the good work.

Novah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rikaku</p>
<p>I just posted on your thread as well to hopefully bump it back up to get a little attention. I have never posted of the official boards before but I truly feel it was a worthy thread.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Novah</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38726</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noba:
I had to, that was one of the most hilarious things I had ever seen (parody wise) XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noba:<br />
I had to, that was one of the most hilarious things I had ever seen (parody wise) XD</p>
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		<title>By: Noba</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38716</link>
		<dc:creator>Noba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ty for starting the thread, rikaku. I sure hope GC or someone reads it. Maybe they just havent considered how the 5/5/5 normalization interacts with the &quot;boost&quot; talents. Giving them the benefit of doubt that they are not just being evil and underhanded, talking up a &quot;buff&quot; but sneaking an overall nerf on purpose. x.x
Its also amazing some other class hasnt come in and derailed it, screaming about pets being OP and deserving a fleas debuff or something. 

btw, rikaku its so funny you actually put the animal farm reference in your sig, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ty for starting the thread, rikaku. I sure hope GC or someone reads it. Maybe they just havent considered how the 5/5/5 normalization interacts with the &#8220;boost&#8221; talents. Giving them the benefit of doubt that they are not just being evil and underhanded, talking up a &#8220;buff&#8221; but sneaking an overall nerf on purpose. x.x<br />
Its also amazing some other class hasnt come in and derailed it, screaming about pets being OP and deserving a fleas debuff or something. </p>
<p>btw, rikaku its so funny you actually put the animal farm reference in your sig, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38715</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regolith &amp; The others who posted on my thread:
Thank you a bunch for posting. I would love to see a blue respond, but perhaps soon we&#039;ll get their attention. I would love to see them take a look at the hunter community&#039;s feelings and realize that Hunters everywhere want *real* standardization to where we can choose the pet&#039;s specs and thus make every pet viable for our situation =D

Of course, Blizzard sometimes has the reputation of not being very logical, but here&#039;s hoping!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regolith &amp; The others who posted on my thread:<br />
Thank you a bunch for posting. I would love to see a blue respond, but perhaps soon we&#8217;ll get their attention. I would love to see them take a look at the hunter community&#8217;s feelings and realize that Hunters everywhere want *real* standardization to where we can choose the pet&#8217;s specs and thus make every pet viable for our situation =D</p>
<p>Of course, Blizzard sometimes has the reputation of not being very logical, but here&#8217;s hoping!</p>
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		<title>By: rokkitan</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38710</link>
		<dc:creator>rokkitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grekb: Worm&#039;s acid spit haven&#039;t been nerfed in any other way than the warriors&#039; sunder armor (http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=7386).

I&#039;d personally love if they merged the pet tree&#039;s and rather let us choose if a pet would be dps/utility/tank with talents. I&#039;d also love if we could choose the pet skill from a limited number of skills, e.g. that my bat could choose either sonic burst/demoralizing screech/snatch/rake and similar utiliy/pve/pvp/dps skill for other families. I kinda like the exotic pets and that they have unique family skills, but they should be an option and not required for a full BM hunter.

I would love to be free to choose the pet I like the look of for the task I want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grekb: Worm&#8217;s acid spit haven&#8217;t been nerfed in any other way than the warriors&#8217; sunder armor (<a href="http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=7386" rel="nofollow">http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=7386</a>).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d personally love if they merged the pet tree&#8217;s and rather let us choose if a pet would be dps/utility/tank with talents. I&#8217;d also love if we could choose the pet skill from a limited number of skills, e.g. that my bat could choose either sonic burst/demoralizing screech/snatch/rake and similar utiliy/pve/pvp/dps skill for other families. I kinda like the exotic pets and that they have unique family skills, but they should be an option and not required for a full BM hunter.</p>
<p>I would love to be free to choose the pet I like the look of for the task I want.</p>
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		<title>By: Saranette</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38706</link>
		<dc:creator>Saranette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Jaeger; 

My bad! I got Silverback confused with Wild Hunt. Still kinda sad though if I&#039;m going to have to drop rabid in 3.1 just to get my pet&#039;s stamina contribution back to what it is now though...

(And again, yes, I play a fairly weird hunter. I also love bugs, even though they tend to scare the crap out of me in real life.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Jaeger; </p>
<p>My bad! I got Silverback confused with Wild Hunt. Still kinda sad though if I&#8217;m going to have to drop rabid in 3.1 just to get my pet&#8217;s stamina contribution back to what it is now though&#8230;</p>
<p>(And again, yes, I play a fairly weird hunter. I also love bugs, even though they tend to scare the crap out of me in real life.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dweezill</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/03/05/raw-data-on-pet-stats-in-ptr-31/comment-page-1/#comment-38705</link>
		<dc:creator>Dweezill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, while we&#039;re at it, let&#039;s add a &quot;family talent&quot; for each spec for each family.  Example: if you have a pet spider, and you choose to spec him cunning, he could keep web.  but, if you choose to spec him ferocity, he would get some kind of poison damage ability.  and if you choose to spec it tanacity, it could have some kind of carapce ability to give more armor.  This would help even outt he playing files no matter what tree you want to spec your pet in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, while we&#8217;re at it, let&#8217;s add a &#8220;family talent&#8221; for each spec for each family.  Example: if you have a pet spider, and you choose to spec him cunning, he could keep web.  but, if you choose to spec him ferocity, he would get some kind of poison damage ability.  and if you choose to spec it tanacity, it could have some kind of carapce ability to give more armor.  This would help even outt he playing files no matter what tree you want to spec your pet in.</p>
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