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	<title>Comments on: Surprise! Patch 3.0.9</title>
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		<title>By: Rayquaza7996 (Raydex)</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38168</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayquaza7996 (Raydex)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap, they weakened my Serpents, Hailfire and Hailice, after all the work I went to get my Deviate Viper and Deviate Moccasin. Don&#039;t know why I have two serpents, but...I love &#039;em.
XD I&#039;m level 27, whenever oppsote atacked I had my Serpent Poision Spit them, then I ran like an idiot. Unless it was weak enoguh for me to fight :)

Does Beast Lore inclue buffs? Like if I use it on another pet, will I see it with bonuses if it&#039;s someone else&#039;s? Because if so, my serpent Hailfire has higher damage then a cat :) Which I doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap, they weakened my Serpents, Hailfire and Hailice, after all the work I went to get my Deviate Viper and Deviate Moccasin. Don&#8217;t know why I have two serpents, but&#8230;I love &#8216;em.<br />
XD I&#8217;m level 27, whenever oppsote atacked I had my Serpent Poision Spit them, then I ran like an idiot. Unless it was weak enoguh for me to fight :)</p>
<p>Does Beast Lore inclue buffs? Like if I use it on another pet, will I see it with bonuses if it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s? Because if so, my serpent Hailfire has higher damage then a cat :) Which I doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Chontay</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38095</link>
		<dc:creator>Chontay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

Did anyone look at the caster dmg of the pets since the patch? For example the rake (bleeding dot) of a cat? Despite the pet char window claims something about +XXX bonus dmg für casts, bleeding ticks with rediculous 80. Also does scorpid poison with ticks around 100 or so (cat is lvl78, scorpid lvl80). Does this bonus dmg play any roll at all or is it completely sensless now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>Did anyone look at the caster dmg of the pets since the patch? For example the rake (bleeding dot) of a cat? Despite the pet char window claims something about +XXX bonus dmg für casts, bleeding ticks with rediculous 80. Also does scorpid poison with ticks around 100 or so (cat is lvl78, scorpid lvl80). Does this bonus dmg play any roll at all or is it completely sensless now?</p>
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		<title>By: Seraje</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38093</link>
		<dc:creator>Seraje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respecc&#039;d bm (was survival) tonight and ran H vh with another survival hunter. Previously this hunter was doing about 300 more dps with me on average in 25 man naxx (better gear ;p). In H vh, i averaged 2-500 less than her and even did better by 1-200 dps on two of the boss fights. (rotation: serpent, arcane, multi, steady, spam &quot;i am god&quot; button whenever cooldown is up)

It&#039;s not scientific, but it is conclusive. *hugs devilsaur*

BM *is* a viable spec again, and for me, pve=raiding. I can feel comfortable with my raid spot as bm, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respecc&#8217;d bm (was survival) tonight and ran H vh with another survival hunter. Previously this hunter was doing about 300 more dps with me on average in 25 man naxx (better gear ;p). In H vh, i averaged 2-500 less than her and even did better by 1-200 dps on two of the boss fights. (rotation: serpent, arcane, multi, steady, spam &#8220;i am god&#8221; button whenever cooldown is up)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not scientific, but it is conclusive. *hugs devilsaur*</p>
<p>BM *is* a viable spec again, and for me, pve=raiding. I can feel comfortable with my raid spot as bm, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38088</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chizesu, to those of us who like BM, it was always worth it.  If your asking whether or not they are doing overpowered damage again, no.  But they are dealing damage only slightly lower then survival at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chizesu, to those of us who like BM, it was always worth it.  If your asking whether or not they are doing overpowered damage again, no.  But they are dealing damage only slightly lower then survival at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Messyah</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38087</link>
		<dc:creator>Messyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn it, Mania! When will you finally get it through your head that BLOG &gt; LIFE?

ROFLMAO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it, Mania! When will you finally get it through your head that BLOG &gt; LIFE?</p>
<p>ROFLMAO</p>
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		<title>By: Chrizesu/Moltenrain</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38083</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrizesu/Moltenrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, good thing I woke up early today.

So, with blizzards try on fixing bm, is it worth it now?
I await the day it&#039;s ok for me to run around with a beloved exotic pet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, good thing I woke up early today.</p>
<p>So, with blizzards try on fixing bm, is it worth it now?<br />
I await the day it&#8217;s ok for me to run around with a beloved exotic pet.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38079</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally doubled back on myself there....... *Coughs* Blame it on being three AM, but the conjecture I came up with towards the end seems closer to right to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally doubled back on myself there&#8230;&#8230;. *Coughs* Blame it on being three AM, but the conjecture I came up with towards the end seems closer to right to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38078</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, no need to apologize Moiri.  It was just a little misunderstanding.  *Smiles*

I think its more of a combat oriented change then a healer one.  Probably aimed more to help out balance druids and elemental shamans then anyone else.  HOWEVER, that is just speculation on my part, and I may very well be wrong.  Most healers can get rid of some form or another of cast slowing type, though.  Paladins can take care of poison and ((If they exist)) magic oriented ones, druids and shaman can get rid of poison and curse variants, priests can remove the magic variant.  ((There IS a magic variant!  Slow!))  Bearing this in mind, it seems like it&#039;d have been aimed more at warlocks, shadow priests, and mages.

Least, thats this mountain boys take on it.  *Chuckles*  I reserve the right to be wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, no need to apologize Moiri.  It was just a little misunderstanding.  *Smiles*</p>
<p>I think its more of a combat oriented change then a healer one.  Probably aimed more to help out balance druids and elemental shamans then anyone else.  HOWEVER, that is just speculation on my part, and I may very well be wrong.  Most healers can get rid of some form or another of cast slowing type, though.  Paladins can take care of poison and ((If they exist)) magic oriented ones, druids and shaman can get rid of poison and curse variants, priests can remove the magic variant.  ((There IS a magic variant!  Slow!))  Bearing this in mind, it seems like it&#8217;d have been aimed more at warlocks, shadow priests, and mages.</p>
<p>Least, thats this mountain boys take on it.  *Chuckles*  I reserve the right to be wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: Moiri</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38077</link>
		<dc:creator>Moiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, sorry, I mis-read your reply.  I thought that you were thinking something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, sorry, I mis-read your reply.  I thought that you were thinking something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Rikaku</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/10/surprise-patch-309/comment-page-1/#comment-38072</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikaku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, after running more heroics today than I ever have total in all of WotLK so far, I can honestly bring this message from my Spirit Beast.

It&#039;s good to be back.

Course, BM still isn&#039;t the top, but it&#039;s ALOT better than what it was 3.0.8. That&#039;s all I have to say XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, after running more heroics today than I ever have total in all of WotLK so far, I can honestly bring this message from my Spirit Beast.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to be back.</p>
<p>Course, BM still isn&#8217;t the top, but it&#8217;s ALOT better than what it was 3.0.8. That&#8217;s all I have to say XD</p>
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