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	<title>Comments on: Winter Veil Guides</title>
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		<title>By: Kaljin</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-37042</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaljin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I also love leveling, so the thought of taking a break from it ti level my cooking does not appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I also love leveling, so the thought of taking a break from it ti level my cooking does not appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaljin</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-37041</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaljin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I don&#039;t care about the Winter&#039;s Veil achievements. The only reason I worked on Hallow&#039;s End achievements was because I liked the title. Unfortunately, even with killing HH five times a day, I did not get the helmet needed. It strikes me as bloody stupid to base an achievement off of luck, and I feel the same about winter&#039;s veil. Yes, the drake reward is awesome, but endlessly running instances or PvPing around the holidays, when most of my family is dragging me around to relatives or shopping is pointless. I&#039;ll just get the Heroic achievements of my own time and get that drake. (or if I&#039;m REALLY lucky I&#039;ll find the Time-lost drake :D)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t care about the Winter&#8217;s Veil achievements. The only reason I worked on Hallow&#8217;s End achievements was because I liked the title. Unfortunately, even with killing HH five times a day, I did not get the helmet needed. It strikes me as bloody stupid to base an achievement off of luck, and I feel the same about winter&#8217;s veil. Yes, the drake reward is awesome, but endlessly running instances or PvPing around the holidays, when most of my family is dragging me around to relatives or shopping is pointless. I&#8217;ll just get the Heroic achievements of my own time and get that drake. (or if I&#8217;m REALLY lucky I&#8217;ll find the Time-lost drake :D)</p>
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		<title>By: Thalestris</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36997</link>
		<dc:creator>Thalestris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a wee bit annoyed with the Winter Veil achievements. Not so much the PvP, but the cooking one...I&#039;m looking at having to speed level it (as I will not be online for most of the festivities) in a few days...I wish they didn&#039;t make these achievements profession-specific.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a wee bit annoyed with the Winter Veil achievements. Not so much the PvP, but the cooking one&#8230;I&#8217;m looking at having to speed level it (as I will not be online for most of the festivities) in a few days&#8230;I wish they didn&#8217;t make these achievements profession-specific.</p>
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		<title>By: Flinkbaum</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36995</link>
		<dc:creator>Flinkbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been working the Winter&#039;s Veil achievement on a lot of characters.  I had a lot of level 70s anyway, so the Ogri&#039;la part wasn&#039;t an issue.  I didn&#039;t want to level them all up to 77 to fly right now to get that last Horde Brother, so I bribed three other players to summon my characters to Icecrown.  One of them stayed around a couple extra minutes to duel them all in a certain spot.  Once I lost, I used a Dark Rune and died.  When the airship was passing overhead, I was able to rez inside of it.   Took a couple hours of time overall to prepare and find the spot and get summoned and die and rez again.  I could only rez one character at a time in that ship, and it takes 15 minutes to do a circuit to get back in position for me to rez another character.  But all in all, it was fun, and certainly a nice break from leveling.

A determined hunter can get all this done at level 70.  *^_^*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working the Winter&#8217;s Veil achievement on a lot of characters.  I had a lot of level 70s anyway, so the Ogri&#8217;la part wasn&#8217;t an issue.  I didn&#8217;t want to level them all up to 77 to fly right now to get that last Horde Brother, so I bribed three other players to summon my characters to Icecrown.  One of them stayed around a couple extra minutes to duel them all in a certain spot.  Once I lost, I used a Dark Rune and died.  When the airship was passing overhead, I was able to rez inside of it.   Took a couple hours of time overall to prepare and find the spot and get summoned and die and rez again.  I could only rez one character at a time in that ship, and it takes 15 minutes to do a circuit to get back in position for me to rez another character.  But all in all, it was fun, and certainly a nice break from leveling.</p>
<p>A determined hunter can get all this done at level 70.  *^_^*</p>
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		<title>By: Ketari</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36993</link>
		<dc:creator>Ketari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the pvp achievement in 2 SOTA&#039;s, with zero pvp gear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the pvp achievement in 2 SOTA&#8217;s, with zero pvp gear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clawclaw</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36992</link>
		<dc:creator>Clawclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darknez: There&#039;s an achievement to kill players who have an orphan, and another to kill players while you have an orphan, so that&#039;s incentive to use orphans in BGs after you can get over the pure, twisted evil of it all. I understand it&#039;s just a game, but leading virtual orphan children into bloody warfare and encouraging the loss of the poor thing&#039;s caretaker is outright disgusting. I really wish they&#039;d change the achievements to something *nice*, but I don&#039;t know how else you could apply PvP to Children&#039;s Week.
As for the hats, I got mine quite easily from starting a hat group in Nexus. I&#039;m still a level away from getting the last Horde brother. I feel extremely discouraged from trying to get the achievements on my alts because of the level requirements and my lack of playtime. In fact, the violet proto-drake was a big deciding factor in my first character I&#039;d take to 80 (I&#039;m a huge mount nut).
I personally believe seasonal events, especially for cosmetic items, should be equally accessible for all levels, so it does bother me when they put obvious level restrictions on such things (even if I meet said requirements, so no selfish QQing here). They could easily put some kind of debuff to temporarily even everyone&#039;s stats/level on event bosses (Direbrew, Headless Horseman, etc.) so everyone could get a shot and get something in their level range if they figured people want stats on their prizes (especially with the nature of how Bind to Account equipment scales). It seems very discouraging for a new(ish) player to start around a seasonal event, but be told they can&#039;t participate in the majority of it because they aren&#039;t at the level cap, when the point of seasonal events is a fun celebration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darknez: There&#8217;s an achievement to kill players who have an orphan, and another to kill players while you have an orphan, so that&#8217;s incentive to use orphans in BGs after you can get over the pure, twisted evil of it all. I understand it&#8217;s just a game, but leading virtual orphan children into bloody warfare and encouraging the loss of the poor thing&#8217;s caretaker is outright disgusting. I really wish they&#8217;d change the achievements to something *nice*, but I don&#8217;t know how else you could apply PvP to Children&#8217;s Week.<br />
As for the hats, I got mine quite easily from starting a hat group in Nexus. I&#8217;m still a level away from getting the last Horde brother. I feel extremely discouraged from trying to get the achievements on my alts because of the level requirements and my lack of playtime. In fact, the violet proto-drake was a big deciding factor in my first character I&#8217;d take to 80 (I&#8217;m a huge mount nut).<br />
I personally believe seasonal events, especially for cosmetic items, should be equally accessible for all levels, so it does bother me when they put obvious level restrictions on such things (even if I meet said requirements, so no selfish QQing here). They could easily put some kind of debuff to temporarily even everyone&#8217;s stats/level on event bosses (Direbrew, Headless Horseman, etc.) so everyone could get a shot and get something in their level range if they figured people want stats on their prizes (especially with the nature of how Bind to Account equipment scales). It seems very discouraging for a new(ish) player to start around a seasonal event, but be told they can&#8217;t participate in the majority of it because they aren&#8217;t at the level cap, when the point of seasonal events is a fun celebration.</p>
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		<title>By: bbr</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36990</link>
		<dc:creator>bbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got em all other than crash, and the hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got em all other than crash, and the hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Fireshade</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36989</link>
		<dc:creator>Fireshade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree entierly with the total lack of thought on Bliz&#039;s part with the childrens weeek Acheivments taking childeren in warzones and killing the caretakers of other childeren is not acceptable at all even in a game. Blizz really dropped the ball on this one IMO. instead of taking an already tramatized child into an even more tramatizing environment why not take them to see the lands even more so than usual? take them to all the great Citys, to more historic sights... introduce them to new freindly races.. teach them a new skill, craft a toy or artical of clothing for them. there are so many other things that can be done for acheivments than slaughtering another child&#039;s caretaker over and over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree entierly with the total lack of thought on Bliz&#8217;s part with the childrens weeek Acheivments taking childeren in warzones and killing the caretakers of other childeren is not acceptable at all even in a game. Blizz really dropped the ball on this one IMO. instead of taking an already tramatized child into an even more tramatizing environment why not take them to see the lands even more so than usual? take them to all the great Citys, to more historic sights&#8230; introduce them to new freindly races.. teach them a new skill, craft a toy or artical of clothing for them. there are so many other things that can be done for acheivments than slaughtering another child&#8217;s caretaker over and over.</p>
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		<title>By: Conga</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36988</link>
		<dc:creator>Conga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are 2 things that i fould out yesturday:
1)it&#039;s impossible to get the Brother something achievement if you are horde and under level 77 - one of the brothers if flying on a zeppelin in the mountains and people can&#039;t be summoned there, unfortunatly

2)if you are worried about the gnome achievent and you are somewhere in mid 70s - just go to Lake wintergrasp and take a mage along=) got killed? -just port back to dalaran, become a gnome again and port back! only works if you are defendin the lake..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are 2 things that i fould out yesturday:<br />
1)it&#8217;s impossible to get the Brother something achievement if you are horde and under level 77 &#8211; one of the brothers if flying on a zeppelin in the mountains and people can&#8217;t be summoned there, unfortunatly</p>
<p>2)if you are worried about the gnome achievent and you are somewhere in mid 70s &#8211; just go to Lake wintergrasp and take a mage along=) got killed? -just port back to dalaran, become a gnome again and port back! only works if you are defendin the lake..</p>
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		<title>By: Ryai</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/12/17/winter-veil-guides/comment-page-1/#comment-36987</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arg it cut my post.

And yeah I hate the children week ones that are pvp too- I mean these are orphans, made orphans, because of actions like this! I never even have the orphans out in the past when I went into a battleground! Sure had them out everywhere else and kinda felt bad when I mounted up and the kid was still standing beside me &gt;.&gt;

But having to have a kid out, and killing another player with one out, to make it an orphan again? My god that is sick and twisted :/

Mania you need to try and get an edit button :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arg it cut my post.</p>
<p>And yeah I hate the children week ones that are pvp too- I mean these are orphans, made orphans, because of actions like this! I never even have the orphans out in the past when I went into a battleground! Sure had them out everywhere else and kinda felt bad when I mounted up and the kid was still standing beside me &gt;.&gt;</p>
<p>But having to have a kid out, and killing another player with one out, to make it an orphan again? My god that is sick and twisted :/</p>
<p>Mania you need to try and get an edit button :(</p>
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