Winter Veil Guides
Reminder: The Feast of Winter Veil event started on Monday. You can find out more about Winter Veil on Blizzard’s Winter Veil page, and also at WoW Wiki.
As with Hallow’s End, there are now many Winter Veil achievements to .. err .. achieve. You can find guides to the event all over the web, but here’s some I found helpful:
- /hug: Winter Veil!
- Letters From Birdfall: Winter Veil 2008, or “Ho Ho… Yes, Okay, We Look Like Hoes”
- Grumble N Autumn: Winter Veil Guide 2008
- Wowhead Blog: Feast of Winter Veil Guide (Dec 15 – Jan 2)
- MMO Champion: Winter Veil – Achievements Mini-Guide
I haven’t yet decided if I’m going to attempt to complete all the Winter Veil achievements myself. Although I enjoy holiday events, my main goal with the achievements was to eventually earn a Violet Proto-Drake mount.
But I can’t do that the first year anyway — since I didn’t join the Brewfest Beer of the Month Club — and some of the achievements really rub me the wrong way. (I really don’t like to PvP at all, and I’ve been ranting shamefully about the stupid Winter Hats in the comments over at Dechion’s Place.)
So perhaps I’ll take a break and only do the fun Winter Veil achievements this year.
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Tbh mania, there is an easy way to get the pvp achievement for winter’s veil. Basically protect yourself if you start attacking in strand of the ancients, then when on D, wait till enemy gets to courtyard and say back a bit, only shooting when safe. Got the achievement in one BG like this, 60 honorable kills. And if you don’t do these achievements, you’ll just have to wait that much longer for the violet proto :P.
The PVP kill achievement was a lot easier than I was expecting – I got it in one visit to Wintergrasp, by riding around on the DPS platforms of demolishers and sitting in turrets.
As to the hat, it can be farmed from the first boss of REGULAR Nexus, without encountering a mob above level 72. I was able to 3-man this with a level 75 DK tanking, myself (80 mage) on sheep duty, and an 80 balance druid doing a combination of cyclone, DPS, and heals. (The four mob trash pull before the boss was the hardest part, we did it once but it was a near total wipe, and we wound up adding a rogue to sap and make things even easier.) Run in, kill the boss, run out and reset the instance until everyone gets their hat.
I know what you mean with the Brewfest one. However I won’t let that deter me to complete the rest as there are many people pressuring (if thats possible!) Blizzard to remove it from the meta-achievement (Like the Hallow’s End Mask facade).
I know how you feel. I could not earn the Hollowed title because the the sinister squash-ling did not drop for me. I was really pissed I practiaclly logged in ever hour to trick or treat and did the dailys every day. I really don’t think I will get the winter hat, but I will still be farming humanoids for days on end.
I know that its supposed to be an achievement, but they should be achievements that are possible for any high level player to get. [yes I know the hat drops of high level dungeon bosses, but lfg is a ghost town during winter break. Finding a group for anything has been near impossible, but I will keep trying] All the %drop achievements need removed or changed to exclude that one ultra rare item that will only randomly drop.
We shall see what happens with this hat drop. If it does not drop their is no point in doing all the other achievements for the Drake because I will still have to Waite a year to attempt to do them again. Honestly that is way to much time to dedicate too, even for a massive mmo like this. Yes they are achievements, but they should actually be possible to achieve with the players skill, and not on the players luck.
/roll
…..has rolled one out of a hundred
:(
Thanks for the link! I just wish my DK could get the achievement this year. She is only 58 and Im not sure how fast I can level her before the end of WV and keep up instances with Autumnn. The big pain is the Bomb Them Again quest. You can’t do that unless you do all the Ogre quests. I don’t mind the PvP stuff because usually it is pretty easy to do. What I don’t like is how they take a year long quest essentially and make it so you have to be max level from the start to have a chance of completing it. It casts off a lot of players right off the bat.
BTW which Nexus boss are you guys talking about? My guild starts with the Tree guy but you could go down either path right?
Red Winter Hat
Grand Magus Telestra in The Nexus
Jedoga Shadowseeker in Ahn’kahet
Green Winter Hat
Mage-Lord Urom, the third boss of the Oculus
source from WoWWiki
I got my guildies to help me get the hat in Nexus, so that achievement was easy. I’m with you Mania about PVP. I hate it. But I did get the Hallow’s End achievements, so it shouldn’t be too bad. I’m just waiting on all the idiots farming the Greench to die down a bit. :D As far as the little gnome thing, I may try the new bg or go to AV since it’s the one bg I actually like.
Just wait for the Orphan PVP requirement. “Kill 10 characters with their Orphan out”.
As they have no incentive to keep their Orphan out, why would they do so? If it said to do so while you also had you’re own orphan out then maybe that would force their hand.
At the moment it seems that (unless the opposing faction are playing nice) it will be rather difficult to complete.
If you have a friend with a toon in the opposing faction, you can always do it the “cheat” way and just kill them over and over in a secluded graveyard. Then reciprocate. It’s tedious, but it works. I usually balk at these kinds of methods, but if Blizzard are trying to force PvP into an otherwise PvE event, then I don’t think the achievement deserves any more respect than that.
The orphan achievement in the BG is going to be a real pain. And also kind of obscene. The Children’s Week events were originally about helping kids in need, and now they seem to have turned it into a twisted parody of that.
Forgive me if I’m getting off topic now (which I know I am), but I posted http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13723502488 for anyone who cares about the Children’s Week ones at least.
I’ve completed most of the Winterveil events so far, with the exception of the PVP one and the Rocket Crashing one.
Getting “Bomb them again!” for the Ogr’la La La achievement was a pain. The first couple of quests we were able to 3 man (two level 80 mages, and me, the level 79 hunter with a level 77 kitty, so NO TANKS or HEALERS), but the last one in the chain requires 5 people to summon. If it weren’t for the summoning part, I’m sure we could have 3 manned that one too. So, it was PITA to round up five people for the event, and I feel sorry for people who mainly solo casually trying to complete this achievement.
Now, getting a red winter hat…that was much easier. Once again, we 3 manned our way thru normal Nexus and beat the snot out of Grand Magus Telestra for our hats (same 3 man players too, including the level 77 kitty). Getting the hat was easier than the Ogrila run.
As for the PVP objectives…sigh. I have a feeling my Hordie alt is going to spend the week being beaten into the dirt by my Alliance guild members.
I got a whole 5 kills as the Gnome last night, it was not a pleasant experience. I may try Wintergrasp again though, that sounds like it could work. Hopefully that will be the hardest part for me, I just need to pay off some friends so I can get the hat.
With regards to the 5 man requirement for the last Ogri’la quest, it is actually possible to do it with 4 people. Look it up on wowhead. It involves being mounted and running between two of the nodes before they have a chance to switch off. I did it earlier this year…
I got the green hat from my first run of Occulus and all my PvP kills in 1 AV match, now all i have to do is wait for christmas morning so i can open and then crash my crashin thrashin racer 25 times for the achievement.
I know people will frown for this – but for those of you with a perma-stealth ability (rogues & night elves – sorry Tauren cat form but it won’t help as you’d need to lose your gnome outfit to stealth as a cat!) just shadowmeld/stealth somewhere out the way yet near enough for anyones death build the required HK for your achievements.
I know I certainly did it on my NE warrior – until Blizzard stop the outfit from disappearing on death, I certainly wasn’t going to get 1 hk, leave the instance and try again for another. Alternatively, put one of those gnome-machines in the instance.
People will moan, but then others will actively target the gnomes to ensure they are unable to complete the achievement.
I highly recommend not being discouraged by not having joined the Brewfest Club. The Veteran Nanny achievement was removed from the meta because it inherently took 3 years.
The Brew of the Year achievement inherently takes 20+ months if you started on it only after the Achievements system went live, and giving a one year advantage to people for having advance knowledge from outside sources is unreasonable.
I can’t be certain they’re going to remove it, but it seems likely to me, and it would be really frustrating to have given up on the other holidays this year because of that, and then have it get lifted.
When it come to some of these achivements, for a play-for-fun in my free time type player…I dont expect to actually get any of the good stuff because my alloited wow time doesnt allow for many of the required things…the most noteable thing I was able to get was the black War bear, and that was pure chance. I had an hour and a half to kill and the raid from invite to finish was just over an hour. Fast fun and all 1-shot kills. I dont think the hord really knew we where there until they saw us porting out and thier leaders dead.
As for pvp…I really dont do much of that, so I am not holding my breath because to many of these tittles/mounts/etc require to much time, gold, and getting large groups of peps….sigh, to bad there are no alt ways to get some of these things….
Holiday achivements I think are one of the worst because they cannot be done after the holidays…thus if you miss even one of them, you have to wait a whole year before you can try again…
i just had the red winter hat drop off a random mob (not a boss) in heroic UK.
I’m not really actively going out to get the achievements done, mostly as while I want that violet proto drake, I’m not gonna break my back for it and have just picked over what events my main will do, my lock will do and my next highest alt hunter would do [along with the rest of the alts].
Since my main was lv 70 and I don’t have wrsth yet, I didn’t even dare try and touch the Gnomeified pvp challenge, but picked it up on my lock and hunter alts as they were low enough to have an easier chance.
Took only two tries to complete it on my warlock, being affliction helps alot :s
Siphon life spam, haunt, fear, howl of terror, fear, dot spam, more dot spam, pop a health stone.. Sometimes I roll my face across the keyboard to make things a little more challenging *shot*
My lv 61 hunter mostly got this done thanks to the oh, oh so kind shammy, druid and paladin or priest, didn’t get a good look at that belf, mass healing me. Ty so much whomever you were .>
But having to have a kid out, and killing another player with one out, to make it an orphan again? My god that is sick and twisted :/
Arg it cut my post.
And yeah I hate the children week ones that are pvp too- I mean these are orphans, made orphans, because of actions like this! I never even have the orphans out in the past when I went into a battleground! Sure had them out everywhere else and kinda felt bad when I mounted up and the kid was still standing beside me >.>
But having to have a kid out, and killing another player with one out, to make it an orphan again? My god that is sick and twisted :/
Mania you need to try and get an edit button :(
there are 2 things that i fould out yesturday:
1)it’s impossible to get the Brother something achievement if you are horde and under level 77 – one of the brothers if flying on a zeppelin in the mountains and people can’t be summoned there, unfortunatly
2)if you are worried about the gnome achievent and you are somewhere in mid 70s – just go to Lake wintergrasp and take a mage along=) got killed? -just port back to dalaran, become a gnome again and port back! only works if you are defendin the lake..
I agree entierly with the total lack of thought on Bliz’s part with the childrens weeek Acheivments taking childeren in warzones and killing the caretakers of other childeren is not acceptable at all even in a game. Blizz really dropped the ball on this one IMO. instead of taking an already tramatized child into an even more tramatizing environment why not take them to see the lands even more so than usual? take them to all the great Citys, to more historic sights… introduce them to new freindly races.. teach them a new skill, craft a toy or artical of clothing for them. there are so many other things that can be done for acheivments than slaughtering another child’s caretaker over and over.
Got em all other than crash, and the hat.
Darknez: There’s an achievement to kill players who have an orphan, and another to kill players while you have an orphan, so that’s incentive to use orphans in BGs after you can get over the pure, twisted evil of it all. I understand it’s just a game, but leading virtual orphan children into bloody warfare and encouraging the loss of the poor thing’s caretaker is outright disgusting. I really wish they’d change the achievements to something *nice*, but I don’t know how else you could apply PvP to Children’s Week.
As for the hats, I got mine quite easily from starting a hat group in Nexus. I’m still a level away from getting the last Horde brother. I feel extremely discouraged from trying to get the achievements on my alts because of the level requirements and my lack of playtime. In fact, the violet proto-drake was a big deciding factor in my first character I’d take to 80 (I’m a huge mount nut).
I personally believe seasonal events, especially for cosmetic items, should be equally accessible for all levels, so it does bother me when they put obvious level restrictions on such things (even if I meet said requirements, so no selfish QQing here). They could easily put some kind of debuff to temporarily even everyone’s stats/level on event bosses (Direbrew, Headless Horseman, etc.) so everyone could get a shot and get something in their level range if they figured people want stats on their prizes (especially with the nature of how Bind to Account equipment scales). It seems very discouraging for a new(ish) player to start around a seasonal event, but be told they can’t participate in the majority of it because they aren’t at the level cap, when the point of seasonal events is a fun celebration.
I got the pvp achievement in 2 SOTA’s, with zero pvp gear…
I’ve been working the Winter’s Veil achievement on a lot of characters. I had a lot of level 70s anyway, so the Ogri’la part wasn’t an issue. I didn’t want to level them all up to 77 to fly right now to get that last Horde Brother, so I bribed three other players to summon my characters to Icecrown. One of them stayed around a couple extra minutes to duel them all in a certain spot. Once I lost, I used a Dark Rune and died. When the airship was passing overhead, I was able to rez inside of it. Took a couple hours of time overall to prepare and find the spot and get summoned and die and rez again. I could only rez one character at a time in that ship, and it takes 15 minutes to do a circuit to get back in position for me to rez another character. But all in all, it was fun, and certainly a nice break from leveling.
A determined hunter can get all this done at level 70. *^_^*
I’m a wee bit annoyed with the Winter Veil achievements. Not so much the PvP, but the cooking one…I’m looking at having to speed level it (as I will not be online for most of the festivities) in a few days…I wish they didn’t make these achievements profession-specific.
Frankly, I don’t care about the Winter’s Veil achievements. The only reason I worked on Hallow’s End achievements was because I liked the title. Unfortunately, even with killing HH five times a day, I did not get the helmet needed. It strikes me as bloody stupid to base an achievement off of luck, and I feel the same about winter’s veil. Yes, the drake reward is awesome, but endlessly running instances or PvPing around the holidays, when most of my family is dragging me around to relatives or shopping is pointless. I’ll just get the Heroic achievements of my own time and get that drake. (or if I’m REALLY lucky I’ll find the Time-lost drake :D)
Oh, I also love leveling, so the thought of taking a break from it ti level my cooking does not appeal.
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