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	<title>Comments on: Hunter Skills for Lackadaisical Hunters</title>
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		<title>By: Yachou</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-36239</link>
		<dc:creator>Yachou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say when I go all out DPS, like in an instance, I go through a rotation like this:

Mark
Pet attack
Serpent sting
Aimed shot*
Chimera shot*
Arcane shot*
Kill command
Rapid Fire
Steady shot until * abilities CDs are up, rinse repeat
Readiness
---Kill command, rapid fire, rinse repeat the shot pattern. Pop trinkets as desired. :p
Killshot at 20% pr less and finish off.

If I&#039;m grinding/questing with my raptor, I follow a similar pattern sans kill/rapid/readiness. However, when I of course gain agro, if I don&#039;t feel like MD I use Concusssive shot/Frost drap/Disengage if it reaches me without dying.
In the case of multiple mobs, Multishot and Volly as MM have become my best friend. By the time the mobs catch up with me, even the most evil WotLK quest-related mobs go down in 2, maybe 3 vollys with the proper talent points take them all down, I rarely get low health... If I do, it&#039;s feign, run away, rinse repeat shoot order, and DPS down. 

Mana is somewhat of a problem, although since speccing MM I seek out a lot of MP5 and Int gear, which helps (MM gets Trueshot Aura, which rocks for AP). I&#039;ve also gotten good at timing Viper inbetween pulls to keep from taking the 50% damage reduction (... do NOT forget and leave it on. Done that. It sucks.)

Needless to say, I go play on my rogue or DK tank when I want a more simple playstyle. o.O;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say when I go all out DPS, like in an instance, I go through a rotation like this:</p>
<p>Mark<br />
Pet attack<br />
Serpent sting<br />
Aimed shot*<br />
Chimera shot*<br />
Arcane shot*<br />
Kill command<br />
Rapid Fire<br />
Steady shot until * abilities CDs are up, rinse repeat<br />
Readiness<br />
&#8212;Kill command, rapid fire, rinse repeat the shot pattern. Pop trinkets as desired. :p<br />
Killshot at 20% pr less and finish off.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m grinding/questing with my raptor, I follow a similar pattern sans kill/rapid/readiness. However, when I of course gain agro, if I don&#8217;t feel like MD I use Concusssive shot/Frost drap/Disengage if it reaches me without dying.<br />
In the case of multiple mobs, Multishot and Volly as MM have become my best friend. By the time the mobs catch up with me, even the most evil WotLK quest-related mobs go down in 2, maybe 3 vollys with the proper talent points take them all down, I rarely get low health&#8230; If I do, it&#8217;s feign, run away, rinse repeat shoot order, and DPS down. </p>
<p>Mana is somewhat of a problem, although since speccing MM I seek out a lot of MP5 and Int gear, which helps (MM gets Trueshot Aura, which rocks for AP). I&#8217;ve also gotten good at timing Viper inbetween pulls to keep from taking the 50% damage reduction (&#8230; do NOT forget and leave it on. Done that. It sucks.)</p>
<p>Needless to say, I go play on my rogue or DK tank when I want a more simple playstyle. o.O;</p>
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		<title>By: LAH</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a lackadaisical hunter, most of the time I dont bother with disengage I just reassign my pets target volley on top of myself and maybe cast intimidation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a lackadaisical hunter, most of the time I dont bother with disengage I just reassign my pets target volley on top of myself and maybe cast intimidation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarjin</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35944</link>
		<dc:creator>Tarjin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is wonderful to read this post right now.  Blizzard made such fundamental changes to hunters in general and Survival in particular regarding the way I played that I feel almost like I&#039;m starting over.  Additionally, I stopped using Bongos action bar mod and am relying on the default action bars; it&#039;s fine, just different.  So it is very helpful to read a post about puzzling through how to combine the skills we have in a way that doesn&#039;t resort to a lot of math and such.  So thank you for the post.

Oh, and this reminds me that I don&#039;t think I have Kill Command on my bar yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wonderful to read this post right now.  Blizzard made such fundamental changes to hunters in general and Survival in particular regarding the way I played that I feel almost like I&#8217;m starting over.  Additionally, I stopped using Bongos action bar mod and am relying on the default action bars; it&#8217;s fine, just different.  So it is very helpful to read a post about puzzling through how to combine the skills we have in a way that doesn&#8217;t resort to a lot of math and such.  So thank you for the post.</p>
<p>Oh, and this reminds me that I don&#8217;t think I have Kill Command on my bar yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyir</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35930</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have a playstyle similar to yours Mania. I tend to do my &quot;serious&quot; (how serious should one take a game anyway...) wow stuff on my rogue. I can get really technical on him. On my Hunter I enjoy the story of the game rather than the goals of the game. So, yeah I&#039;m pretty &quot;lackadaisical&quot; I&#039;m going to use that one from now on.

Another thing you gave me that I&#039;m going to use from now on is your Misdirection macro. I&#039;ve used it a couple times in instances mainly because a guildy told me I &quot;had to&quot; but like you said, way too complicated and I never bothered with it. Your macro on the other hand? Ok NOW I can use it all the time. THANKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have a playstyle similar to yours Mania. I tend to do my &#8220;serious&#8221; (how serious should one take a game anyway&#8230;) wow stuff on my rogue. I can get really technical on him. On my Hunter I enjoy the story of the game rather than the goals of the game. So, yeah I&#8217;m pretty &#8220;lackadaisical&#8221; I&#8217;m going to use that one from now on.</p>
<p>Another thing you gave me that I&#8217;m going to use from now on is your Misdirection macro. I&#8217;ve used it a couple times in instances mainly because a guildy told me I &#8220;had to&#8221; but like you said, way too complicated and I never bothered with it. Your macro on the other hand? Ok NOW I can use it all the time. THANKS!</p>
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		<title>By: Troutwort</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35918</link>
		<dc:creator>Troutwort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mania, thank you for the totally simple Misdirect macro, I had been doing it the same way as you and therefore not using it nearly as much as I could.  All that changed last night once I read this.  I was totally happy!  THANK YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mania, thank you for the totally simple Misdirect macro, I had been doing it the same way as you and therefore not using it nearly as much as I could.  All that changed last night once I read this.  I was totally happy!  THANK YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35908</link>
		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well best thing to do is to just round up 5-7 of em , have a gorilla tank all of them and just slow trap-&gt;volleyspam-&gt;FD-&gt;volleyspam, they all end up dying at that point. ofc, it might not be possible if you don&#039;t have T5 set bonus otherwise you gorilla will drop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well best thing to do is to just round up 5-7 of em , have a gorilla tank all of them and just slow trap-&gt;volleyspam-&gt;FD-&gt;volleyspam, they all end up dying at that point. ofc, it might not be possible if you don&#8217;t have T5 set bonus otherwise you gorilla will drop</p>
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		<title>By: kunukia</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35892</link>
		<dc:creator>kunukia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound very much like me. Lackadaisical, excellent word. My (RL) son drags one of my hunters around, making her do the group quests, and even occasionally instance. Blue actually has 3 pieces of T4 and some other equivalent gear. I was practically dragged to those raids. I much prefer grinding mobs, doing the easy &#039;kill 15 of such-and-so, and gathering. I even like fishing!
All, of course, with a cuddly pet by my side. Speaking of pets, I started a Death Knight a couple days ago, and I asked into guild which spec was least complicated to play. I was told unholy, and someone (who knows me well) said, and your ghoul pet becomes permanent. I nearly swooned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound very much like me. Lackadaisical, excellent word. My (RL) son drags one of my hunters around, making her do the group quests, and even occasionally instance. Blue actually has 3 pieces of T4 and some other equivalent gear. I was practically dragged to those raids. I much prefer grinding mobs, doing the easy &#8216;kill 15 of such-and-so, and gathering. I even like fishing!<br />
All, of course, with a cuddly pet by my side. Speaking of pets, I started a Death Knight a couple days ago, and I asked into guild which spec was least complicated to play. I was told unholy, and someone (who knows me well) said, and your ghoul pet becomes permanent. I nearly swooned.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamis</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35882</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Mania you&#039;re so adorable! :P At least you&#039;re learning it all now! Besides, you know hunter companions inside out while we are all mostly clueless of it, so it all fits in nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Mania you&#8217;re so adorable! :P At least you&#8217;re learning it all now! Besides, you know hunter companions inside out while we are all mostly clueless of it, so it all fits in nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethgrì</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethgrì</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be a bit out of place here, but I&#039;m one of those hunters that uses all of my abilities as soon as they&#039;re cooled down. This was mainly made possible with the new AotViper. Thus grinding/leveling mostly consists of lots of moving and never stopping the shots, interupted by quest turn-ins and arrow runs.

But I do agree with the simple playstyle though. I just have all my abilites on hotkeys that are close to eachother according to their effect and how often I use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be a bit out of place here, but I&#8217;m one of those hunters that uses all of my abilities as soon as they&#8217;re cooled down. This was mainly made possible with the new AotViper. Thus grinding/leveling mostly consists of lots of moving and never stopping the shots, interupted by quest turn-ins and arrow runs.</p>
<p>But I do agree with the simple playstyle though. I just have all my abilites on hotkeys that are close to eachother according to their effect and how often I use them.</p>
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		<title>By: Berg</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/11/17/hunter-skills-for-lackadaisical-hunters/comment-page-2/#comment-35872</link>
		<dc:creator>Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing Mania. I just learned from your post so all is good. Are you a bad hunter? I don&#039;t think so. It&#039;s all about fun period! Besides, if I&#039;m learning from you and your a bad hunter. Cringe, I must be worse then bad!!! Lol. That was of course a joke. You rock, period!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Mania. I just learned from your post so all is good. Are you a bad hunter? I don&#8217;t think so. It&#8217;s all about fun period! Besides, if I&#8217;m learning from you and your a bad hunter. Cringe, I must be worse then bad!!! Lol. That was of course a joke. You rock, period!</p>
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