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	<title>Comments on: Beta Build 8926 &#8211; Pet Ability Numbers</title>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30857</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Invigoration sucks, Infares.  Now that I&#039;ve had some play time with it I can say that honestly.  The amount is to low, and there are numerous abilities that cost focus that either count as spells and thus have zero critical, or don&#039;t do damage TO critical.  When cobras strikes goes off it does help, but the amount is still so lousy that it doesn&#039;t add enough.  Cunning pets do a bit to help, but often it still doesn&#039;t feel like enough.  Of course right now in beta sometimes mana regeneration borks and doesn&#039;t work at all.  Aspect of the viper ALSO sucks.  On an average mana pool of aruond 6000 with a Gladiators crossbow restores 187, though milage will vary from weapon speed.  I&#039;ll even be kinda and round it up to 200 and 6000 total.  Just auto shotting it would take around 90 seconds of being in combat and being at half damage and doing NO other shots.  Invigoration will chop off a bit of those, but not by much.  Your honestly much better just sitting down to drink then spending any time in AoTV, its really that bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Invigoration sucks, Infares.  Now that I&#8217;ve had some play time with it I can say that honestly.  The amount is to low, and there are numerous abilities that cost focus that either count as spells and thus have zero critical, or don&#8217;t do damage TO critical.  When cobras strikes goes off it does help, but the amount is still so lousy that it doesn&#8217;t add enough.  Cunning pets do a bit to help, but often it still doesn&#8217;t feel like enough.  Of course right now in beta sometimes mana regeneration borks and doesn&#8217;t work at all.  Aspect of the viper ALSO sucks.  On an average mana pool of aruond 6000 with a Gladiators crossbow restores 187, though milage will vary from weapon speed.  I&#8217;ll even be kinda and round it up to 200 and 6000 total.  Just auto shotting it would take around 90 seconds of being in combat and being at half damage and doing NO other shots.  Invigoration will chop off a bit of those, but not by much.  Your honestly much better just sitting down to drink then spending any time in AoTV, its really that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Infares</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30845</link>
		<dc:creator>Infares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind hunters also have Cobra Strikes/Invigoration, and the Roar of Recovery talent for Cunning pets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind hunters also have Cobra Strikes/Invigoration, and the Roar of Recovery talent for Cunning pets.</p>
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		<title>By: Elgar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30828</link>
		<dc:creator>Elgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not in beta so I can&#039;t truly say for sure, but perhaps the AotV was nerfed a bit due to the number of classes that can now restore mana to their parties?  Before WotLK it was just shadow priests, but from my understanding now druids, paladins, and is it shaman(?? correct me if I&#039;m wrong there) as well as shadow priests can now restore mana to their groups.  This means that there are far more ways to get mana back from your party making you less dependant on your AotV, in theory.  Again, I am not in beta to see how that works, but I&#039;m speculating this is part of the reason.

My main is a holy priest, but my original character was a hunter who I mostly use for farming now, but I still love him (and his Ashenvale bear!!).  But priests got a nerf to their spirit of redemption which lowers their mana regen as well.  I assumed the same thing there, that now they would be getting mana from more classes so it was not as necessary for them to have as much independant mana regen.

Is this good or not??  I&#039;m not sure, will it likely mean more downtime drinking for hunters and priests?  Possibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not in beta so I can&#8217;t truly say for sure, but perhaps the AotV was nerfed a bit due to the number of classes that can now restore mana to their parties?  Before WotLK it was just shadow priests, but from my understanding now druids, paladins, and is it shaman(?? correct me if I&#8217;m wrong there) as well as shadow priests can now restore mana to their groups.  This means that there are far more ways to get mana back from your party making you less dependant on your AotV, in theory.  Again, I am not in beta to see how that works, but I&#8217;m speculating this is part of the reason.</p>
<p>My main is a holy priest, but my original character was a hunter who I mostly use for farming now, but I still love him (and his Ashenvale bear!!).  But priests got a nerf to their spirit of redemption which lowers their mana regen as well.  I assumed the same thing there, that now they would be getting mana from more classes so it was not as necessary for them to have as much independant mana regen.</p>
<p>Is this good or not??  I&#8217;m not sure, will it likely mean more downtime drinking for hunters and priests?  Possibly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghanur</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30812</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghanur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Blizzard hates hunters, ever has, ever will! (and they hate Engineering).

Looks like I won&#039;t return for WotLK - some of those really old and matured games are looking better every day (like EQ).

Way to go: PvP, Arena and eSports - no place for the fun anymore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Blizzard hates hunters, ever has, ever will! (and they hate Engineering).</p>
<p>Looks like I won&#8217;t return for WotLK &#8211; some of those really old and matured games are looking better every day (like EQ).</p>
<p>Way to go: PvP, Arena and eSports &#8211; no place for the fun anymore!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoblek</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30806</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoblek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone check Bristlepine http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=27681 (it&#039;s tameable on Wowhead) but over felboars untameable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone check Bristlepine <a href="http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=27681" rel="nofollow">http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=27681</a> (it&#8217;s tameable on Wowhead) but over felboars untameable!</p>
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		<title>By: MyhealthisOPlol</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30794</link>
		<dc:creator>MyhealthisOPlol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I swear now blizz is making me mad not to burn any certain class,but we&#039;re the least b****ed about class on my server atleast...it&#039;s always rogues,druids, and sl/sl locks that are complained about and what do we see? blizz is just making them even more overpowered and now AotB is gone!!!! sheesh what next we become a melee class!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I swear now blizz is making me mad not to burn any certain class,but we&#8217;re the least b****ed about class on my server atleast&#8230;it&#8217;s always rogues,druids, and sl/sl locks that are complained about and what do we see? blizz is just making them even more overpowered and now AotB is gone!!!! sheesh what next we become a melee class!?</p>
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		<title>By: Infares</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30793</link>
		<dc:creator>Infares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sure they didn&#039;t add the untrackability to another aspect instead?

I personally didn&#039;t think that was worth its own aspect TBH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sure they didn&#8217;t add the untrackability to another aspect instead?</p>
<p>I personally didn&#8217;t think that was worth its own aspect TBH.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30786</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Myhealth, your in for a shocker, and not a good one.  Aspect of the Beast is gone.  Removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Myhealth, your in for a shocker, and not a good one.  Aspect of the Beast is gone.  Removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30781</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arnt hunters nerfed anough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arnt hunters nerfed anough?</p>
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		<title>By: MyhealthisOPlol</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/09/11/beta-build-8926-pet-ability-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-30775</link>
		<dc:creator>MyhealthisOPlol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok thanks for correcting me on that Ketari,but now what&#039;s really bugging me is why are hunters getting all the nerfs I mean c&#039;mon we stink at melee...well maybe that&#039;s what they put the new AotB (aspect of the beast)in for I suppose,but even so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok thanks for correcting me on that Ketari,but now what&#8217;s really bugging me is why are hunters getting all the nerfs I mean c&#8217;mon we stink at melee&#8230;well maybe that&#8217;s what they put the new AotB (aspect of the beast)in for I suppose,but even so.</p>
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