Demon Hounds are Wolves?!

Ceron with New Beta HoundCeron gets full credit for finding the most interesting change in beta build 8778 so far: the Vargul Blighthounds in Zul’Drak can now be tamed! (That’s him with his new hound to the left.)

This is a bit of a surprise to say the least. Vargul Blighthounds were undead in the last beta build, I believe. And they use a model that is most commonly used for demons. But now they can be tamed, and not as an exotic creature but as a plain old wolf (with Furious Howl and everything)!

As I see it, there are three possible explanations for these gorgeous critters:

  1. This is entirely a mistake; Vargul Blighthounds weren’t intended to be beasts.
  2. Vargul Blighthounds will eventually be a type of new exotic pet but they skipped out early, and it’s a bug that they are currently wolves.
  3. This is a new type of wolf model, giving us four really cool looks for wolves.

I’d be happy with either #2 or #3.

And here’s a bit more of a close-up for you:

Closeup of New Beta Hound

121 thoughts on “Demon Hounds are Wolves?!

  1. Ive Never posted here before. BUT DAMN I LOVE THAT WOLF!! Ive wanted one every since i saw them eons ago but they were untamaable. I HOPE they stay Tameable!!

  2. Thanks, Mania. I didn’t think to check about the other posting. :D But the fact that they have a bugged animation is, for me, a red flag that they weren’t made to be tameable. Here’s hoping that the animation will be fixed, rather than the pet be removed, but until this definitely hits live, I’m not going to be overly hopeful.

    … if only because I *really* want one for my Surv, and getting hopeful will get me all disappointed if they remove it.

  3. Heck, I don’t even care if they don’t stay tamable – I’d be happy just to see more of these running around the place. Er, when I’m not having to peel them off and keep them from chewing my face off. That is a lovely design – I really like those circular markings.

    You know, that is the great thing about hunters. There’s enough folk out that that must have a new skin, so that the rest of us can sit back and just enjoy.
    …And start counting our stable slots and wonder if eventually that 4 will seem too few! Heh.

  4. PepsiJedi:
    You said it much better than i could. I think some of the new pets look cool, but I haven’t seen any I plan on taming. I will stick with my Zarakh Spider (named Arachniphobe) and my blue scorpion (named Thoth). I don’t plan on taming any of the new stuff, but there are “old” pets that i want to use to fill my stable with. I still want the silver gorilla. After that, I have two open slots to tame something that catches my eye while I am playing. Come to think of it,I won;t waste the talent points on the 51 point “tame exotic” talent. I can use it on other things to make myself (and thus, making my old pets) more powerful. Still,I do feel that is players don;t want the exotics, and they want to get the 51 point talent, reward them for it by giving their old pets beefed up abilites. I still think that “exotics” will be a lot more powerful, so give the “old” pets some new abilities for getting the 51 point talent. Unless maggots do become tamable, or unless my old pets get new abilites, the “exotic” talent just won’t be worth it to me.

  5. I’m worried that it is a bug. They are so obviously not beasts (burning feet, glowing rune markings ((which I LOVE!)) and a glowing snout) that it is unlikely that Blizz meant for them to be tameble. After seeing the Ghost wolf get wisked away, I wouldn’t start putting posters on your walls.

    But still.

    That is one freaking awesome beast. If he is indeed tameble when the game is released, I know two hunters that will bee-line strate towards it. Thanks much, Ceron, for finding it, and thanks much Mania for communicating it to the hunter community. =^.^=

  6. @38:

    What I said is that demon hounds would become A majority if not THE majority – not sure who said that “everyone” will have one but it wasn’t me.

    Now, why would demon hounds potentially (dramatically) outperform warp stalkers and other “cool” pets in the hunter polls? Because they have something very obvious that no other hunter pet does – energy effects.

    Not just glowing eyes – glowing runes, glowing breath wheezing out of their snouts and most dramatically burning feet a la felsteed. This thing would look right at home with a warlock.

    The only other pet even on the same wavelength in re: energy effects was the spirit wolf. Which was why people would go to such insane lengths to get that pet and why Blizzard chose to yank it before the situation got out of hand.

    I said it before: I hope they do keep these as tameable, but wouldn’t exactly be stunned if they hit it with the spirit wolf nerf stick either… we’ll just have to wait and see!

  7. Oh yes – no points for saying “Arikara” or that black warp stalker; I’m talking about energy effects that are permanently on display not just a nice entrance animation. :)

  8. Oh man, I hope these stay tameable. I really do–I want the mage hunter skin SO bad, and I know with the changes to Furious Howl and wolves becoming Ferocity I may need to get a wolf for raiding.

  9. Anyone in beta check to see if hellboars in hellfire penninsula got changed to beasts or at least tameable? That and the plaguehounds in EPL?

  10. it looks to nice.its probubly a bug.i probubly wouldnt get one if it stayed,but heres hopeing they dont nurf this one to…

  11. I know for me, *I* want a bunch of the exotic pets. Which is why I’m presently powerleveling a Beastmaster. Because I prefer my raiding alt to stay Survival and be a living raid-buff, while still having the ability to run around with all my new pets.

    Already planning on getting my BM a Devilsaur and a Silithid (two pets I’ve been wanting for you-don’t-know-how-long), and we’ll see what other fun stuff comes out for me to play with with him. Meanwhile, the raiding alt can be satisfied with filling his stables with solid raid-pets. Sounds like it’s perfect for me!

  12. I’ve always wanted to tame one of the demon hounds ever since I saw them in Tirisfal! If these stay tameable, though I doubt it, I would snatch one in an instant!

    But sadly I bet this is going to have #1 for why they’re tameable and get hotfixed next beta patch.

    But I wish it stays tameable <3

  13. @Makoes

    I think the main reason why the warp stalkers went down in popularity was due to the lowest tameable ones being caster stat pets, which most people still don’t know about. So they tried using them, found out they sucked, and then applied that thought to all warp stalkers.

    I did tame one when I hit 63, fully knowing they had caster stats (thanks to Mania’s Petopia), and played around with it through leveling up to 64. It did reach loyalty level 6 some time before I dinged 64. Once I got that level, I went to tame a warp hunter that has melee stats. End result? While only loyalty level 1 and having nothing else trained aside Growl and Warp, it was doing as much, if not a wee bit more, damage than the fully trained one I had before, tooks hits better too, and held aggro more.

    As for those new wolves, they do look quite awesome. Still, I already made my choices of pets, and unless something pretty impressive comes out, I won’t tame anything new. =P

  14. The way I see it, if it IS a mistake it will be taken care of in their nexts build on the Beta. If it’s not, we get another rather interesting Pet for many to drool over. I honestly don’t care much for them, though the Runes and effects look VERY interesting on it and if it’s nerfed heck I’ll be happy just SEEING it out in the world.

    And as someone stated it might have animation glitches but there is also the Chimaera, and Worms that do the stop/go run for range and stuff. It could VERY WELL be kept tameable (And if everyone keeps suggesting it, it might)if WotlK goes live. I myself am a Beast Master/Survival Hybrid. I might dock myself and finally go to a full 51 point talent tree in Lich King but yet I also might not. I love Devilsaurs, ALWAYS wanted one as a lowbie hunter so this made my dreams come true. As well as Basalisks. And yes, if it does STAY I know a lot of people will be going MUST HAVE but not EVERYONE on the planet like some think. Everyone has their faves, everyone has their hates, and everyone has their own style. I mean even if this COMES up I don’t think it will be more popular over the new riding spotted cat model they have up.

    A lot of people have already gone about checking the other demon hounds I believe. Most of them I think are still demons but who knows, they might change a couple *shrugs*

  15. Can wasps in zangarmarsh be tamed? Seeing as those hive insects, scorpids, moths can etc, I would love to see wasps tameable. Still looking for a answer from someone on beta !!

  16. @petmania

    You do know they are humanoids right? Not only that, they are a subrace like goblins and such and have heavy lore. I doubt that will ever happen though. Playable Worgen?…maybe :-P

  17. Being a wolf fine, I like the look. However, I think it could do to be a different family from the wolves, with their own family ability. I don’t think it was an accident, Blizzard did say there’d be new pets, and new families in Wrath. So I believe it will stay.

    That, or some one punched in the wrong number on a spread sheet some where….

  18. Awwww…Its soooooooooooo cuuuuuuuttttteeeeeee!!! I want one now!! Dont make it Exotic or take it away Blizzard or I’ll blow your company up!

  19. I can’t see these making it to the live release as tameable to be honest. For the same reason they took away the Grimtotem Spirit Guide.

    I’m actually expecting them to use the new pet training method as an excuse to take away those of us who still have ghost puppies by saying they’re “inccompatible” or some other rubbish.

  20. I hope all the darkhounds are tamable. when i was a noob tauren hunter i went to tirisfal glades just to see the “beast can not be tamed”.

    Perhaps the whole Darkhound/Demon Dog family could be added (tameable by everyone) with their own Demon something-or-other ability.

    But why they maybe wolves: Darkhounds drop stringy wolf meat.

  21. @Rasen
    i half expect that to.gonna checking mine befor i use my copy of the expansion.
    hopefully they wont mess with the wolves again…
    @Meh
    i kinda like the green one myself.not to fond of the shoulder circles,but the rest of it is nice…

  22. Well we all know blizzard, so im not gunna say *i hope its not a bug* becuase knowing blizz it almost has to be… but if im wrong (and i hope i am) im gettin a blue one and naming it frostfire. Much to the “enjoyment” of mages =]

  23. i wish this wasnt beta so we could quickly snach them up befor blizz nerf it or maby it will make it into live who knows :P maby if we keep it hush hush blizz wont realise

  24. @ Kristy

    My hyena does have jumping animations. They actually have the same animation move list as the coyote model for wolves. However my warp stalker does not have jumping animations, and man does it look stupid when I make it jump using Eyes of the Beast. /cry

  25. At one time, nearly all pets didn’t have jumping animations. At some point, Blizz added swimming, jump, and direcion animations for nearly all pets, but the newer ones (Warp stalker, for example) don’t yet have them.

  26. That’s true Wolfington, but I honestly think Blizzard should get their act together and give all proper animations to all pets. Still taking the warp stalker as an example, while it doesn’t have a jumping animation, it does have a swimming one. O.o

  27. I don’t know if anyone else has checked on all of these yet – but I took my hunter to the Borean area where the blue and ones of these are and they gave me a mouseover of demon – and I couldn’t do beast lore on them. I’m wondering if anyone else had the same thing happen? Will pop by tomorrow and try to tame one, just to see if it works – am betting no.

    The orange and black ones are in the death knight starting area, so I’ve not had my hunter over there yet.

  28. To Shin, sorry, my bad. I like the jumping animation thing on it. hehe

    And I remember the update patch for pets “swimming animations”. That was cool. But I must’ve not seen the patch where the other kinds of pet animations got updated too though. hehe

  29. I reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaly NEED basilisks, hydras and deviate pythons, they r sooooooo cool! (im a HUUUUGE fan of reptiles in case u havent noticed) :)

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