Incidentally, since I’m not doing any instancing or raiding or battlegrounds or arena in the beta, I’d be very interested to hear from any beta testers who are doing those things about how their pets are doing right now.

do i have to post a video of my pet getting owned in second in a 3v3 not even a 5v5 in mere seconds and im not using scrub gear? because what you are saying to an outright lie. there is no possible way a full 5v5 team will fail to take out a pet in less than 4 sec unless you play in 1300 rating and are meeting bots. there just isnt.

Sir, I think you don’t understand how strong our pets really are.

I used to do arena, but I didn’t bother changing from my raiding survival spec.
I used a wind serpent, spec’d for raiding (avoidance, cobra reflexes, hi HP, medium armour).
I would send Dreadfang around to hit the hostile healer before each team could hide / get a look at the other team.
Even with the entire hostile team in a 5v5 attacking my pet, it still took a good 6-7 seconds for them to kill it.

Now think of how far you can push a pet if you know what you’re doing in PvP.
I don’t like PvP and I did arena for the welfare epics.

Just posting my 2 cents.

alas, pets has NO survivability in arena currently and from what ive read about the improvements to pets compared to the new talents and skills that rogues warriors warlocks mages gets pets will have NO survivability at lvl 80 either. stop trying to tell otherwise.
30% missrate on 8 yard aoe for 8 sec of 14 might SOUND overpowered but is not when you start to actually think and count on it. it only affects rogues and warriors really, which funnily enough are the pretty much only ones in arena who has no counter. shamans, DKs, palas has magical means of doing dmg which wont be affected. and any arena team seeing a tallstrider WILL know it has that skill and will consequently take 2-4 sec off their time to kill the pet then continue as normal. i can though see a potencial missuse in 5 man instances which tbh shouldnt be a deciding factor for any balancing issues at all so i wouldnt mind lowering it to 25% for 6 sec of 20 sec cd which would be perfectly balanced. ONE miss is just utterly useless and not worth the focus it costs to use even compared to shit dps skills like bite.

Most people ignored pets, though, unless I was dumb enough to let Neme out of my line of sight.

Blues HAVE said they will be looking at pet scaling with respect to things like resilience, too.

Can people kill pets in short order, yes. I even said as much. But unless your walking around in leather and haven’t spent any skill points in armor or stamina, then it shouldn’t happen to often in a regular PvP enviroment.

Even non-BM hunters can now get the double damage effect 66% of the time instead of 50% – their pet can use Gore at 1 and 11 seconds for double damage, again at 21 seconds for normal damage, before starting the cycle over again for double damage after Dash cools down at the 30 second mark.

Given that Gore is only a 50% chance to deal double damage on live, the change to make it guaranteed double damage during Dash largely a buff rather than a nerf.

Dash last 16 sec and has 30 sec DC, Gore has 10 sec DC…So, boar can get one hit that makes 100 dmg.. what is the point?

or how knows, we will see… :-/

(Hmm.. the text don’t (or the blizz) tell how much Gore will deal damage, maybe 70 -80 or even 100 normaly?)