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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26364</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*grumble* Been checkin&#039; the hunter forum all day and missed this ... *grumble*

I booted this up to its &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/28/more-on-exotic-pets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;own post&lt;/a&gt;, so wander over there to discuss it if you would. :&gt; 

Oh, and thanks Nimizar! You&#039;re becoming more essential to this blog than I am. *grin*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*grumble* Been checkin&#8217; the hunter forum all day and missed this &#8230; *grumble*</p>
<p>I booted this up to its <a href="http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/28/more-on-exotic-pets/" rel="nofollow">own post</a>, so wander over there to discuss it if you would. :> </p>
<p>Oh, and thanks Nimizar! You&#8217;re becoming more essential to this blog than I am. *grin*</p>
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		<title>By: Nimizar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26363</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimizar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more hints from Ghostcrawler regarding the way exotic pets are likely to work:&lt;blockquote&gt;The exotic pets will be different from normal pets. Ideally they might even be a little bit better, but we&#039;re very hesitant to make them too good lest we see every hunter stampede over to the BM tree. Pets are supposed to be something important to all kinds of hunters, and the BM tree already offers some amazing pet buffs and synergy. We just don&#039;t want to overdo it with this talent. :)

At the very least, the exotic pets will have a new family ability that will ideally be really useful in some situations. I&#039;m making this one up, but imagine that since normal crabs have Pin, an exotic pet might have a Pin-like ability that did fire damage. Or imagine that you could tame a drake (you can&#039;t, because they aren&#039;t beasts) and that instead of lightning or fire breath, it had frost breath that could freeze an enemy, death knight style. Would this be useful? Probably. Does it make the 51-point talent mandatory? Ideally not. Though those 5 talent points aren&#039;t bad....

As far as what happens if you have an exotic pet and respec, most likely the pet&#039;s talents will just reset. Yeah you get a free pet respec out of the deal, but it&#039;s not as if it&#039;s free since the hunter has to respec. Any exotic pets in the stable won&#039;t be lost, but you wouldn&#039;t be able to get them out of the stable either. If you have an exotic pet at the moment you respec, then it will probably be dismissed (but not abandoned) and you won&#039;t be able to summon it again, forcing you to go swap it into the stable. (Or abandon it if you&#039;re THAT kind of hunter.) &lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202607002&amp;pageNo=2&amp;sid=2000#23</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more hints from Ghostcrawler regarding the way exotic pets are likely to work:<br />
<blockquote>The exotic pets will be different from normal pets. Ideally they might even be a little bit better, but we&#8217;re very hesitant to make them too good lest we see every hunter stampede over to the BM tree. Pets are supposed to be something important to all kinds of hunters, and the BM tree already offers some amazing pet buffs and synergy. We just don&#8217;t want to overdo it with this talent. :)</p>
<p>At the very least, the exotic pets will have a new family ability that will ideally be really useful in some situations. I&#8217;m making this one up, but imagine that since normal crabs have Pin, an exotic pet might have a Pin-like ability that did fire damage. Or imagine that you could tame a drake (you can&#8217;t, because they aren&#8217;t beasts) and that instead of lightning or fire breath, it had frost breath that could freeze an enemy, death knight style. Would this be useful? Probably. Does it make the 51-point talent mandatory? Ideally not. Though those 5 talent points aren&#8217;t bad&#8230;.</p>
<p>As far as what happens if you have an exotic pet and respec, most likely the pet&#8217;s talents will just reset. Yeah you get a free pet respec out of the deal, but it&#8217;s not as if it&#8217;s free since the hunter has to respec. Any exotic pets in the stable won&#8217;t be lost, but you wouldn&#8217;t be able to get them out of the stable either. If you have an exotic pet at the moment you respec, then it will probably be dismissed (but not abandoned) and you won&#8217;t be able to summon it again, forcing you to go swap it into the stable. (Or abandon it if you&#8217;re THAT kind of hunter.) </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202607002&#038;pageNo=2&#038;sid=2000#23" rel="nofollow">http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202607002&#038;pageNo=2&#038;sid=2000#23</a></p>
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		<title>By: Forest</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26322</link>
		<dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say about the Owls, Carrion &amp; Eagles/Hawks, what if Blizzard just put&#039;s them all in 1 family? (Bird, or Avian) they all eat the same food. The only problem would be the stats. (Dps, armour etc.)

But i still think Eagles/Hawks will be with Owls. 

&lt;3 Eagles :O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say about the Owls, Carrion &amp; Eagles/Hawks, what if Blizzard just put&#8217;s them all in 1 family? (Bird, or Avian) they all eat the same food. The only problem would be the stats. (Dps, armour etc.)</p>
<p>But i still think Eagles/Hawks will be with Owls. </p>
<p>&lt;3 Eagles :O</p>
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		<title>By: Fearmdemon</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26294</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearmdemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, i forgot all about skunks and scorpids, thank you! but i think a down side would be all the people complaining &quot;why cant i tame School of Fish?! its a critter, isnt it?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, i forgot all about skunks and scorpids, thank you! but i think a down side would be all the people complaining &#8220;why cant i tame School of Fish?! its a critter, isnt it?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: warhammer</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26277</link>
		<dc:creator>warhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fearmdemom

I&#039;d thought of that some time back. Maybe not a profession but cages which allow you catch a new pet. (alternatively a hunter talent ;-)  )

Squirrels have been ingame from the start but you can&#039;t get them. Tortoise shell cat skin is only on npc cats. There&#039;s skunks, scorpions, lots of different parrot textures that aren&#039;t on pet versions. As it stands pet collectors are out there and something like that would appeal to them no end.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d thought of that some time back. Maybe not a profession but cages which allow you catch a new pet. (alternatively a hunter talent ;-)  )</p>
<p>Squirrels have been ingame from the start but you can&#8217;t get them. Tortoise shell cat skin is only on npc cats. There&#8217;s skunks, scorpions, lots of different parrot textures that aren&#8217;t on pet versions. As it stands pet collectors are out there and something like that would appeal to them no end.</p>
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		<title>By: Fearmdemon</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26275</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearmdemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, does ANYONE but me t hink there should be a proffesion to make Non Combat Pets? maybe &quot;Domestication&quot;? im not saying go out and make Whelplings, but just some pets. Bear Cubs, Rats, Snakes, maybe critters? id love to go domesticate Lava Crabs, Fire Beetles and Maggots, not to mention any OTHER little critters people rarely find! if anyone disagrees, please speak up, id love to hear the arguments, but  i think this is a good idea, personally. (Parrots? that pretty critter you always wanted...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, does ANYONE but me t hink there should be a proffesion to make Non Combat Pets? maybe &#8220;Domestication&#8221;? im not saying go out and make Whelplings, but just some pets. Bear Cubs, Rats, Snakes, maybe critters? id love to go domesticate Lava Crabs, Fire Beetles and Maggots, not to mention any OTHER little critters people rarely find! if anyone disagrees, please speak up, id love to hear the arguments, but  i think this is a good idea, personally. (Parrots? that pretty critter you always wanted&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Fearmdemon</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26273</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearmdemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cant wait for expansion, and to see more new pets! keep up the good work Mania &amp; Friends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cant wait for expansion, and to see more new pets! keep up the good work Mania &amp; Friends!</p>
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		<title>By: Nimizar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26263</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimizar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Carrion Feeder currently just makes the pet sparkle for a bit while standing still near the corpse (I went back to using my ravager after deciding the terrokkar tallstrider I tamed was just too dang ugly and silly looking for my tastes - in doing so, I discovered that Ravage actually has a knockdown effect as part of its stun). As for the amount of happiness Carrion Feeder restores to the pet... try 200 happiness per tick, compared to the 35 per tick given by feeding your pet appropriate level food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Carrion Feeder currently just makes the pet sparkle for a bit while standing still near the corpse (I went back to using my ravager after deciding the terrokkar tallstrider I tamed was just too dang ugly and silly looking for my tastes &#8211; in doing so, I discovered that Ravage actually has a knockdown effect as part of its stun). As for the amount of happiness Carrion Feeder restores to the pet&#8230; try 200 happiness per tick, compared to the 35 per tick given by feeding your pet appropriate level food.</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26260</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FaaR: Hmm .. You know, thinking back I don&#039;t think Carrion Feeder has any animation yet. I don&#039;t remember one. Just a crunching noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FaaR: Hmm .. You know, thinking back I don&#8217;t think Carrion Feeder has any animation yet. I don&#8217;t remember one. Just a crunching noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/26/random-notes-from-the-wotlk-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-26258</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking over what they&#039;ve done, I&#039;m glad that some of the pet&#039;s that I love, and beast families, are getting a bit of spiffing up.  However, I noticed something of an imbalance in the number of pets per tree.

There are nine pets in cunning, seven in ferocity and eight in tenacity.  I would love to see them set it up so that there was an even number in each- that is eight.  Maybe move Wind Serpent or Dragonhawk into Ferocity.  I know some people have stated that they would like to see Bird of Prey and Carrion Bird switched around, and I agree.  In fact, I think that they should do a total flip of those two.  Carrion Birds whould have snatch and Bird of Prey have Ferocious Screech.  If you think about the families the way they are, that makes sense.  

Alas, I did not get into the Beta.  Maybe they&#039;ll let me in later.  Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking over what they&#8217;ve done, I&#8217;m glad that some of the pet&#8217;s that I love, and beast families, are getting a bit of spiffing up.  However, I noticed something of an imbalance in the number of pets per tree.</p>
<p>There are nine pets in cunning, seven in ferocity and eight in tenacity.  I would love to see them set it up so that there was an even number in each- that is eight.  Maybe move Wind Serpent or Dragonhawk into Ferocity.  I know some people have stated that they would like to see Bird of Prey and Carrion Bird switched around, and I agree.  In fact, I think that they should do a total flip of those two.  Carrion Birds whould have snatch and Bird of Prey have Ferocious Screech.  If you think about the families the way they are, that makes sense.  </p>
<p>Alas, I did not get into the Beta.  Maybe they&#8217;ll let me in later.  Who knows.</p>
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