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	<title>Comments on: WotLK: Beta Pet Stats [Updated]</title>
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		<title>By: Ihlos</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-2/#comment-26539</link>
		<dc:creator>Ihlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Invader

Where do they mention they will include resilience in pet scaling? I cant seem to find it.

Thanks</description>
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<p>Where do they mention they will include resilience in pet scaling? I cant seem to find it.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Rethinking Marksmanship for Wrath of the Lich King &#171; 35 Yards Out</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-2/#comment-25743</link>
		<dc:creator>Rethinking Marksmanship for Wrath of the Lich King &#171; 35 Yards Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when we increase it. I point you over to Petopia&#8217;s Pet Talents table and Mania&#8217;s information on modifiers to explore the three talent trees available for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when we increase it. I point you over to Petopia&#8217;s Pet Talents table and Mania&#8217;s information on modifiers to explore the three talent trees available for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-2/#comment-25729</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, my felguard and my wolf have both tanked all the way up to non-heroic Shadow Labs.  ((Thats two seperate seventies, by the way.  My hunter did not tame a felguard, promise.))  I am not saying its easy, in all honesty its a pain, doubly with my poor wolf, Lu, but it can be done.  It got a lot easier once Lu hit 13,500 armor and 7,000 hit points, but it still requires a group that is willing to be understanding, and not immediately fly off into DPS fits.  And misdirection.  Lots of misdirection.

IF tenacity does get a greater amount of stamina and armor from the hunter, then that tree will be absolutely amazing single target tanking pets.  Multi-target with some cunning use of the afore mentioned misdirection.  It looks like with just a little thought that hunter pets will be able to quasi-effectively tank in Wrath, which is a great thing, since everyone is always looking for tanks.  Which leaves the interesting question for me..... what pet family do I want to have tank for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, my felguard and my wolf have both tanked all the way up to non-heroic Shadow Labs.  ((Thats two seperate seventies, by the way.  My hunter did not tame a felguard, promise.))  I am not saying its easy, in all honesty its a pain, doubly with my poor wolf, Lu, but it can be done.  It got a lot easier once Lu hit 13,500 armor and 7,000 hit points, but it still requires a group that is willing to be understanding, and not immediately fly off into DPS fits.  And misdirection.  Lots of misdirection.</p>
<p>IF tenacity does get a greater amount of stamina and armor from the hunter, then that tree will be absolutely amazing single target tanking pets.  Multi-target with some cunning use of the afore mentioned misdirection.  It looks like with just a little thought that hunter pets will be able to quasi-effectively tank in Wrath, which is a great thing, since everyone is always looking for tanks.  Which leaves the interesting question for me&#8230;.. what pet family do I want to have tank for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Invador</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-2/#comment-25711</link>
		<dc:creator>Invador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blizz has already mentioned that pet scaling will be improved...to include resilience, in addition to greater stam+armor bonuses.... Hope that helps. I for one, think Tenacity pets will be much more viable tanks in a much greater range of situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizz has already mentioned that pet scaling will be improved&#8230;to include resilience, in addition to greater stam+armor bonuses&#8230;. Hope that helps. I for one, think Tenacity pets will be much more viable tanks in a much greater range of situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-2/#comment-25709</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Tanking&#039;, or tenacity pets, now get 1.5 stamina per point of stamina, though I am unaware if they have changed the amount they get from hunter stats.  Paynegwynn, &#039;caster&#039; stats refer to a pet generally has a mana bar before it is tamed.  These pets have less armor, hit points, and DPS then normal pets, generally by a margin of 20% or so.  Well, hit points are 95%, but its still less.  The only theory we have for what causes it is that the pets in non-tamed form have stats to help them with their mana bars, so they lose stats in other areas.  Sort of how hybrids have to focus on a lot more then two stats.  Unfortunately when you tame them, they seem to retain that fondness for a now non-existant mana supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tanking&#8217;, or tenacity pets, now get 1.5 stamina per point of stamina, though I am unaware if they have changed the amount they get from hunter stats.  Paynegwynn, &#8216;caster&#8217; stats refer to a pet generally has a mana bar before it is tamed.  These pets have less armor, hit points, and DPS then normal pets, generally by a margin of 20% or so.  Well, hit points are 95%, but its still less.  The only theory we have for what causes it is that the pets in non-tamed form have stats to help them with their mana bars, so they lose stats in other areas.  Sort of how hybrids have to focus on a lot more then two stats.  Unfortunately when you tame them, they seem to retain that fondness for a now non-existant mana supply.</p>
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		<title>By: Paynegwynn</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-2/#comment-25696</link>
		<dc:creator>Paynegwynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is the problem that causes caster stats and what does Blizzard need to do to fix it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is the problem that causes caster stats and what does Blizzard need to do to fix it?</p>
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		<title>By: Relax and Play</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-25626</link>
		<dc:creator>Relax and Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or would you be doubtful Blizzard would keep the scaling at 1 player stamina equating to 0.3 pet stamina? (Posted earlier than I planned, so I have to split up what I have to say.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or would you be doubtful Blizzard would keep the scaling at 1 player stamina equating to 0.3 pet stamina? (Posted earlier than I planned, so I have to split up what I have to say.)</p>
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		<title>By: Relax and Play</title>
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		<dc:creator>Relax and Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Even if there&#039;s the grand 14% stamina bonus granted by the tanking tree, Greater Stamina&#039;s 12% and Rhino Blood&#039;s 2%, I still fear that tanking pets are going to end up pitifully frail as they are now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Even if there&#8217;s the grand 14% stamina bonus granted by the tanking tree, Greater Stamina&#8217;s 12% and Rhino Blood&#8217;s 2%, I still fear that tanking pets are going to end up pitifully frail as they are now?</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-25539</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Znodis! Are you back now? We&#039;ve missed you. :&gt; 

I think you&#039;re right -- I think it was Someone, and I apologize for getting you two confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Znodis! Are you back now? We&#8217;ve missed you. :> </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right &#8212; I think it was Someone, and I apologize for getting you two confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Znodis</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/20/wotlk-beta-pet-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-25537</link>
		<dc:creator>Znodis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think that was Someone ( http://someonewowing.blogspot.com/ ) that had that issue.  I was wondering if they&#039;d leave stats alone to give diversity within the categories, but I guess not.  They must figure that the family skills will give enough.

Kind of nice that they did it this way.  Easy to narrow down choice of pets for newbs, and give equal opportunity with talents so they can min/max when the time comes.  Meanwhile the more experience players can debate talent specs and family skills endlessly.  Now where had I heard an Idea like that before...  

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think that was Someone ( <a href="http://someonewowing.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://someonewowing.blogspot.com/</a> ) that had that issue.  I was wondering if they&#8217;d leave stats alone to give diversity within the categories, but I guess not.  They must figure that the family skills will give enough.</p>
<p>Kind of nice that they did it this way.  Easy to narrow down choice of pets for newbs, and give equal opportunity with talents so they can min/max when the time comes.  Meanwhile the more experience players can debate talent specs and family skills endlessly.  Now where had I heard an Idea like that before&#8230;  </p>
<p>:)</p>
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