Comments on: Patch 2.4.3: Growl Threat & AP Buffs http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/ Hunter pets in the World of Warcraft. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:29:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tatare http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24953 Tatare Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:08:20 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24953 I'm a 70 Marksman Hunter, and I HATE the pet aggro nerf. I find myself doing a lot more nuisance crowd control and melee now; it's VERY intrusive, though manageable. This functionally devalues Trueshot Aura for solo situations. Aside from the an apparent "because we can" attitude towards policy changes by the blizzniks, I see no point to this. I'm fond of my Warp Chaser, and was entirely satisfied with it before the change, but will need to investigate other species now. I derive NO BENEFIT from this change. It does not make my play more interesting, just busier. And does make me reconsider why I send these people money every month for behavior which, if they pulled it on one of my software teams, would probably result in a personnel action. So count me as coping tactically, but disgusted. I’m a 70 Marksman Hunter, and I HATE the pet aggro nerf. I find myself doing a lot more nuisance crowd control and melee now; it’s VERY intrusive, though manageable. This functionally devalues Trueshot Aura for solo situations. Aside from the an apparent “because we can” attitude towards policy changes by the blizzniks, I see no point to this. I’m fond of my Warp Chaser, and was entirely satisfied with it before the change, but will need to investigate other species now. I derive NO BENEFIT from this change. It does not make my play more interesting, just busier. And does make me reconsider why I send these people money every month for behavior which, if they pulled it on one of my software teams, would probably result in a personnel action. So count me as coping tactically, but disgusted.

]]> By: Mania http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24818 Mania Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:31:20 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24818 Peter: The Leggings of Beast Mastery still increase the pet's attack power, which increases it's damage (and the threat it generates from damage). And of course they still buff the pet's armor and Stamina as well. So they aren't by any means useless. They just no longer directly increase the threat generated by Growl. (Well the equip effect doesn't. That +30 Agility on the hunter can indirectly affect Growl threat, if the hunter is above the Growl threshold.) Peter: The Leggings of Beast Mastery still increase the pet’s attack power, which increases it’s damage (and the threat it generates from damage). And of course they still buff the pet’s armor and Stamina as well. So they aren’t by any means useless. They just no longer directly increase the threat generated by Growl. (Well the equip effect doesn’t. That +30 Agility on the hunter can indirectly affect Growl threat, if the hunter is above the Growl threshold.)

]]> By: Nordh http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24811 Nordh Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:32:42 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24811 This unfortunately is a large nerf towards main tanking hunters such as myself. Before I could, in 5 hunter groups, with TSA, Leggings of Beast Mastery and Kibler's bits boost my pets aggro to have main aggro on bosses for quite a while. Also, when having a pala in the group when main tanking, BoM made the threat generated really nice and meant noone would be able to outaggro it unless growl resist. This unfortunately is a large nerf towards main tanking hunters such as myself. Before I could, in 5 hunter groups, with TSA, Leggings of Beast Mastery and Kibler’s bits boost my pets aggro to have main aggro on bosses for quite a while.

Also, when having a pala in the group when main tanking, BoM made the threat generated really nice and meant noone would be able to outaggro it unless growl resist.

]]> By: Ketari http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24810 Ketari Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:19:09 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24810 It "means" that a idiot at Blizzard got angry because Hunters challenged his view of reality so he got a nerf implimented for hunters so reality would fit his perception of it. There's really no sugar coating this one. (And MM is now deader than dead, pretty much) It “means” that a idiot at Blizzard got angry because Hunters challenged his view of reality so he got a nerf implimented for hunters so reality would fit his perception of it.

There’s really no sugar coating this one.

(And MM is now deader than dead, pretty much)

]]> By: Ryai http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24796 Ryai Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:23:44 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24796 Know it's not really a 'growl' issue, but been leveling a hunter alt of mine over the last few hours, mostly due to the lv req for mounts [nearly lv 30 on her], anyways I've been noticing my pet is starting to ignore attacking a target I tell it to attack and will turn around and start attacking a completely different target; or will attack before coming right back too me. And now I know a Wind Serpent is a touchy creature, but Azreal was never like this before 2.4.3 Know it’s not really a ‘growl’ issue, but been leveling a hunter alt of mine over the last few hours, mostly due to the lv req for mounts [nearly lv 30 on her], anyways I’ve been noticing my pet is starting to ignore attacking a target I tell it to attack and will turn around and start attacking a completely different target; or will attack before coming right back too me. And now I know a Wind Serpent is a touchy creature, but Azreal was never like this before 2.4.3

]]> By: Peter http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24784 Peter Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:13:41 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24784 > PAP buffs include things like Kibler’s Bits, the Leggings of Beast Mastery, > and regular buffs like Blessing of Might and Trueshot Aura (cast directly on > the pet). > After Patch 2.4.3, factor #3 — the direct pet buffs — will no longer count > when figuring out the bonus for Growl threat. What does it mean - "Leggings of Beast Mastery" are now almost useless ? The stats from Pvp equipment already beat these leggings easily, except the pet buffs. So should I throw away this and use other equipment ? What's that - they offered such a rare item and now it's crap ? Gosh, I'm still waiting for WAR... > PAP buffs include things like Kibler’s Bits, the Leggings of Beast Mastery,
> and regular buffs like Blessing of Might and Trueshot Aura (cast directly on
> the pet).
> After Patch 2.4.3, factor #3 — the direct pet buffs — will no longer count
> when figuring out the bonus for Growl threat.

What does it mean – “Leggings of Beast Mastery” are now almost useless ?
The stats from Pvp equipment already beat these leggings easily, except the pet buffs. So should I throw away this and use other equipment ? What’s that – they offered such a rare item and now it’s crap ?
Gosh, I’m still waiting for WAR…

]]> By: Stephf http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24777 Stephf Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:38:18 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24777 Uh oh...Im a MM hunter... Dammit Blizzard! This is your fault! Dont be surprised if I stop playing!!! *sigh* Time to get new pets *sob* Uh oh…Im a MM hunter…

Dammit Blizzard! This is your fault! Dont be surprised if I stop playing!!!

*sigh* Time to get new pets *sob*

]]> By: Mania http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24755 Mania Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:27:06 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24755 nfmarque: Improved Hunter's Mark can be useful for increasing your pet's overall damage and therefore the threat they generate from damage, but it won't directly increase the threat from Growl. Personally I like to spend the 5 points on it, but I know other hunters who don't think it's worthwhile. nfmarque: Improved Hunter’s Mark can be useful for increasing your pet’s overall damage and therefore the threat they generate from damage, but it won’t directly increase the threat from Growl. Personally I like to spend the 5 points on it, but I know other hunters who don’t think it’s worthwhile.

]]> By: nfmarque http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24754 nfmarque Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:58:55 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24754 Dear mania, im leveling another hunter alt and for my pet to keep aggro what is your advice on improved hunter's mark? Its worth it 5 points? thank you Dear mania,
im leveling another hunter alt and for my pet to keep aggro what is your advice on improved hunter’s mark? Its worth it 5 points?

thank you

]]> By: Palladiamors http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/15/patch-243-growl-threat-ap-buffs/comment-page-1/#comment-24746 Palladiamors Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:15:41 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/?p=768#comment-24746 As a side note, has anyone noticed snake trap behaving oddly? My dearest partner's snake trap appears to be reacting strangely, only attacking the target that trips it and nothing else, even if said target dies before their duration is up. As a side note, has anyone noticed snake trap behaving oddly? My dearest partner’s snake trap appears to be reacting strangely, only attacking the target that trips it and nothing else, even if said target dies before their duration is up.

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