Comments on: PTR 2.4.3: Growl Changes Confirmed

By: Nimizar

Nimizar — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:01:15 +0000

To be fair to Blizzard, if your pet’s AP was at the point where Growl threat started scaling (even with Trueshot Aura), you were probably already at the point where your pet couldn’t hold aggro worth a damn anyway.

And as much as I was annoyed by the way Hortus handled our feedback on this topic during the 2.4.2 PTR, the only way this change would have gone through is if the devs genuinely intended Growl threat to scale solely with the hunter’s RAP. Now we just need them to move that scaling threshold down a bit lower :)

By: rhexar

rhexar — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:22:45 +0000

man… they kill the hunter class…

By: Ketari

Ketari — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:43:24 +0000

Gotta love it when someone in Blizzard can’t accept he was wrong and gets a class nerfed to fit his version of reality. Sigh.

By: Znodis

Znodis — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:02:53 +0000

tanks.

Now just to finish before WotLK. Got my boar to 63 already.

By: Mania

Mania — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:30:57 +0000

Znodis: Yup, that’s the short summary. :> I was supposed to be working on a Growl mechanics article today but instead I ended up doing unpaid contract work. Ah, well. But yes, I specifically tested with TSA – it boosts Growl threat via the hunter’s RAP but not via the pet’s AP directly.

By: Deidare

Deidare — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:26:35 +0000

Really i think the buffs should improve Growl like it improves over the levels it gains istead of having the same aggro rating all the time.

By: Znodis

Znodis — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:52:10 +0000

If your pet was using buffs to get over 734 PAP at level 70 this is a nerf. If not then the change will not affect you.

Now that I’ve gone back over the previous pets I tested (and know IHM does not affect the pet) I think I can actually continue the review without issue. The way the CMs were talking before, it sounded like they were most concerned with AP buffs from other classes. Could you confirm whether TSA causes the same scaling as before? I’ve found it really useful for leveling pets.

By: Vronsky

Vronsky — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:49:25 +0000

I’ve been leveling my boar (66) on live servers, trying to get him caught up to my lvl 68, just grinding mobs. My spec is mainly Survival and Marks up to Scatter Shot and I crit around 1100 @ a 25% rate (or so it says on the char panel). The pig (or the carrion bird(66) or the warp stalker(67)) cannot hold agro if I have hawk aspect, so I run with viper. Which is OK it cuts down the amount of drinks to be purchased, but even so there are times the pet just cannot hold agro no matter how soft I pedal it.

One thing I’ve noticed is when I send the pet in to attack the mob, the target-of-target will often start out as me before switching to the pet. I wait until the pet gets at least 1 hit before stinging/autoshooting – so it is very strange to see me as the target before doing any non-pet damage or debuff/sting. Not sure if it is a ToT bug or a bug in their targetting mechanism. I have not paid attention whether the pet has more difficulty holding agro when the funny targeting occurs.

By: Wolfington

Wolfington — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:46:12 +0000

Seems like they nerfed Boars to me.

By: Faulk_Wulf

Faulk_Wulf — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:46:19 +0000

So Mania,
Does this feel like a buff, nerf, or no difference?