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	<title>Comments on: PTR 2.4.3: Patch Notes</title>
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		<title>By: ryoushi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22809</link>
		<dc:creator>ryoushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys i dont realy understand why no1 figured this out yet, stealth (rogue,druid) aint  the same as invisibility (mage). when a mage goes invis he sees the world in a blur, he cant see any players or mobs. the only things the mages can see while they are invis is other players that are also invis or players that can see invis themselves. aparantly hunts could see mages with huntersmark on them, but mages couldnt see the hunters that casted it. simple bug fix</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys i dont realy understand why no1 figured this out yet, stealth (rogue,druid) aint  the same as invisibility (mage). when a mage goes invis he sees the world in a blur, he cant see any players or mobs. the only things the mages can see while they are invis is other players that are also invis or players that can see invis themselves. aparantly hunts could see mages with huntersmark on them, but mages couldnt see the hunters that casted it. simple bug fix</p>
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		<title>By: Diedare</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22400</link>
		<dc:creator>Diedare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually i thought WoW could improved Nether-rays like the abilty Nether Beam &quot;50 Foucus 3 1/2 min cool down Does 40-60 instant damage and stuns the traget for 15 sec&quot; now i don&#039;t know about you but thats an improve meant to the poor caster nether rays oh and more differnet color non caster nethers rays would do too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually i thought WoW could improved Nether-rays like the abilty Nether Beam &#8220;50 Foucus 3 1/2 min cool down Does 40-60 instant damage and stuns the traget for 15 sec&#8221; now i don&#8217;t know about you but thats an improve meant to the poor caster nether rays oh and more differnet color non caster nethers rays would do too.</p>
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		<title>By: Diedare</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22399</link>
		<dc:creator>Diedare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow uhhh mounts at 30 that was very random indeed....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow uhhh mounts at 30 that was very random indeed&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceolwulf</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22372</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceolwulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guthorm - I thought of it a few hours later, that that was what you probably meant :) sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guthorm &#8211; I thought of it a few hours later, that that was what you probably meant :) sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Cybele</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22362</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! Mounts at 30 :D I may finally lvl my drood again ^^
 Also, it wasn&#039;t in the patch notes I think but there&#039;s going to be a new mount- the brewfest kodo :D There is some pics of it on MMO-Champion here http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php (you need to scroll down a bit).
 The stopwatch seems useful, especially with bosses enraging and stuff.
 Overall seems nice and I&#039;ll be waiting for the next patch ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! Mounts at 30 :D I may finally lvl my drood again ^^<br />
 Also, it wasn&#8217;t in the patch notes I think but there&#8217;s going to be a new mount- the brewfest kodo :D There is some pics of it on MMO-Champion here <a href="http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php</a> (you need to scroll down a bit).<br />
 The stopwatch seems useful, especially with bosses enraging and stuff.<br />
 Overall seems nice and I&#8217;ll be waiting for the next patch ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22356</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just working on that post now, Nimizar. Short answer: the Growl nerf has been implemented this time, and the prioritization bug has not yet been fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just working on that post now, Nimizar. Short answer: the Growl nerf has been implemented this time, and the prioritization bug has not yet been fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimizar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22355</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimizar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Growl nerf is just what they already said they were going to do in 2.4.2 - it isn&#039;t exactly news (assuming they&#039;ve actually *implemented* it this time). And the only people it will actually affect in any significant way are people soloing as MM spec - BM and SV hunters don&#039;t make a habit of directly buffing their pet&#039;s AP, since they don&#039;t have True Shot Aura.

The more interesting question will be whether or not they fixed the Growl prioritisation bug (if it has been fixed then there should *never* be more than 8 seconds between Growl casts, and usually less).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Growl nerf is just what they already said they were going to do in 2.4.2 &#8211; it isn&#8217;t exactly news (assuming they&#8217;ve actually *implemented* it this time). And the only people it will actually affect in any significant way are people soloing as MM spec &#8211; BM and SV hunters don&#8217;t make a habit of directly buffing their pet&#8217;s AP, since they don&#8217;t have True Shot Aura.</p>
<p>The more interesting question will be whether or not they fixed the Growl prioritisation bug (if it has been fixed then there should *never* be more than 8 seconds between Growl casts, and usually less).</p>
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		<title>By: Loreley</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22347</link>
		<dc:creator>Loreley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official forums are much worse, but I&#039;m really tired of seeing &quot;Mounts at 30 will make the game too easy!&quot;

Walking is not &lt;i&gt;hard&lt;/i&gt;. It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;tedious&lt;/i&gt;. Not making level 30 players walk is not making things easier, it&#039;s making things less tedious.

I don&#039;t recall nearly as much crying when the 20-60 leveling nerf went into effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official forums are much worse, but I&#8217;m really tired of seeing &#8220;Mounts at 30 will make the game too easy!&#8221;</p>
<p>Walking is not <i>hard</i>. It&#8217;s <i>tedious</i>. Not making level 30 players walk is not making things easier, it&#8217;s making things less tedious.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall nearly as much crying when the 20-60 leveling nerf went into effect.</p>
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		<title>By: darager</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22345</link>
		<dc:creator>darager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well so much for druids and shammies owning as flag runners in the pre 40 brackets
but i cant say that im overly saddend by the 30 mount but the growl nerf is gunna suck... my hunters already had issues with my pet holding aggro ..this is just gunna blow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well so much for druids and shammies owning as flag runners in the pre 40 brackets<br />
but i cant say that im overly saddend by the 30 mount but the growl nerf is gunna suck&#8230; my hunters already had issues with my pet holding aggro ..this is just gunna blow</p>
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		<title>By: Gort</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/06/18/ptr-243-patch-notes/comment-page-2/#comment-22340</link>
		<dc:creator>Gort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the reason for the possible price (and level) reduction of aquiring mounts is that the high price makes it more tempting for players to purchase gold. I just got my lvl 40 warrior a horse and my lvls 43 and 50 hunters have their mounts. I will not resent the price drop if it happens as I have a lvl 37 rogue and a lvl 35 mage now waiting to see what happens in the next patch. It will be like a two for one sale!!! BOGO!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the reason for the possible price (and level) reduction of aquiring mounts is that the high price makes it more tempting for players to purchase gold. I just got my lvl 40 warrior a horse and my lvls 43 and 50 hunters have their mounts. I will not resent the price drop if it happens as I have a lvl 37 rogue and a lvl 35 mage now waiting to see what happens in the next patch. It will be like a two for one sale!!! BOGO!!!</p>
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