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	<title>Comments on: WotLK Rumor: Bite = Claw</title>
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		<title>By: Epacsten</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21744</link>
		<dc:creator>Epacsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to have to quote Arcazua here:

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Increasing distinction will not change anything other than which pets are superior to others. It will just perpetuate certain families being a tier above others, and make normalization (which I think is inevitable) even more painful and full of QQ drama.
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We need for all pets to be more or less the same, with family-specific abilities that give them a bit of uniqueness. Blizzard is moving in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to have to quote Arcazua here:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Increasing distinction will not change anything other than which pets are superior to others. It will just perpetuate certain families being a tier above others, and make normalization (which I think is inevitable) even more painful and full of QQ drama.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>We need for all pets to be more or less the same, with family-specific abilities that give them a bit of uniqueness. Blizzard is moving in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Krymzin</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21527</link>
		<dc:creator>Krymzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for increasing the usefullness of the lesser used pet breeds, but I really don&#039;t think turning bite into another claw is the way to do it.

Yes, tuning bite so it&#039;s like claw will help the lesser used pets, but it&#039;s also going to screw with the pets that already get both. I can&#039;t help but feel like it&#039;s Blizz taking a lazy way out, and saying to hell with the consequences for pets that already get both.

Instead of changing bite, they should give those pet families without a viable DPS focus dump a new skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for increasing the usefullness of the lesser used pet breeds, but I really don&#8217;t think turning bite into another claw is the way to do it.</p>
<p>Yes, tuning bite so it&#8217;s like claw will help the lesser used pets, but it&#8217;s also going to screw with the pets that already get both. I can&#8217;t help but feel like it&#8217;s Blizz taking a lazy way out, and saying to hell with the consequences for pets that already get both.</p>
<p>Instead of changing bite, they should give those pet families without a viable DPS focus dump a new skill.</p>
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		<title>By: Akyo</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21422</link>
		<dc:creator>Akyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure if i want bite to be instant and do lower dmg.
just reducing the CD with 3-5 sec would have been more than enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure if i want bite to be instant and do lower dmg.<br />
just reducing the CD with 3-5 sec would have been more than enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Moomaul</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21250</link>
		<dc:creator>Moomaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MOONMAUL?! YOU BADTARD! I am a tauren, not some lame purple  tree hugger with giant ears and a cat fetish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MOONMAUL?! YOU BADTARD! I am a tauren, not some lame purple  tree hugger with giant ears and a cat fetish.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradagore</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21187</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradagore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Moonmaul&#039;s post and the &quot;smack&quot; business - this sounds extremely encouraging. It suggests that there&#039;s a concerted effort to deal with the &quot;bad choice&quot; pets and give them something worth having. If the bite changes are a part of this balancing act then I&#039;m all for it. I don&#039;t want to see every pet identical (which would certainly be the easy way out, and which Blizzard could have done already and haven&#039;t) but I think having pets that are never tamed because of pure natural selection would be worse. However this news suggests Blizzard may be going the way that most hunters would prefer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Moonmaul&#8217;s post and the &#8220;smack&#8221; business &#8211; this sounds extremely encouraging. It suggests that there&#8217;s a concerted effort to deal with the &#8220;bad choice&#8221; pets and give them something worth having. If the bite changes are a part of this balancing act then I&#8217;m all for it. I don&#8217;t want to see every pet identical (which would certainly be the easy way out, and which Blizzard could have done already and haven&#8217;t) but I think having pets that are never tamed because of pure natural selection would be worse. However this news suggests Blizzard may be going the way that most hunters would prefer.</p>
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		<title>By: bbr</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21176</link>
		<dc:creator>bbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More focus dumps is better, long as the pet AI is functional.

Bite isn&#039;t a bad skill as it is now, but a good DPS pet &quot;needs&quot; gore or claw to be any use in raids.
This change to bite would make wolves, scorpids etc useful again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More focus dumps is better, long as the pet AI is functional.</p>
<p>Bite isn&#8217;t a bad skill as it is now, but a good DPS pet &#8220;needs&#8221; gore or claw to be any use in raids.<br />
This change to bite would make wolves, scorpids etc useful again.</p>
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		<title>By: Nyx</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21169</link>
		<dc:creator>Nyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kithylin: Please, stop. Just... stop.

Focus dump skills are used in instance runs, raiding, and PvP - where the hunter&#039;s pet shouldn&#039;t be Growling and thus needs to dump focus - hence the name.

While soloing, one can *turn off* focus dump skills, making a pet trained with Claw just as viable for solo play. [I leave it on, but then, my crit chance is above 30%.]

What else would you be training your cat with [if that&#039;s what you have], aside from Bite/Claw/Dash/Growl? The only active skill left is Prowl, something that sees more utility for PvP pets than PvE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kithylin: Please, stop. Just&#8230; stop.</p>
<p>Focus dump skills are used in instance runs, raiding, and PvP &#8211; where the hunter&#8217;s pet shouldn&#8217;t be Growling and thus needs to dump focus &#8211; hence the name.</p>
<p>While soloing, one can *turn off* focus dump skills, making a pet trained with Claw just as viable for solo play. [I leave it on, but then, my crit chance is above 30%.]</p>
<p>What else would you be training your cat with [if that's what you have], aside from Bite/Claw/Dash/Growl? The only active skill left is Prowl, something that sees more utility for PvP pets than PvE.</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam: Being a level 70 hunter who is having trouble with aggro is not unusual these days. You might want to take a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/16/the-state-of-pet-aggro/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;State of Pet Aggro&lt;/a&gt; post that I wrote up. I suspect your problems have more to do with the pet skill priority problem than with Bite and Claw. But it&#039;s a place to start, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam: Being a level 70 hunter who is having trouble with aggro is not unusual these days. You might want to take a look at the <a href="http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/16/the-state-of-pet-aggro/" rel="nofollow">State of Pet Aggro</a> post that I wrote up. I suspect your problems have more to do with the pet skill priority problem than with Bite and Claw. But it&#8217;s a place to start, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21134</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Fantastic thread. So chuffed to have found this.. I&#039;m just wondering, with a slightly tenuous link to the bite vs claw thread - I&#039;m totally ill-informed at the whole WOW thing, despite being a lvl 70 hunter. I&#039;m tearing my hair out trying to understand how bite, claw, focus, growl etc actually works. What it actually does? I have a lynx as a pet (incidentally names cuckinfat, you work it out) And I&#039;m struggling to stop him losing aggro and pinning it all on me. Even if i go with aspect of the Viper, and do nothing but autoshoot I&#039;m still attracting more aggro over time. My pet is lvl 5, so he has one more to go. He&#039;s got growl, claw and bite on auto, cobra reflexes, and the usual - armour, health etc...

I for that matter have had to downscale all my armour to focus on sta and int rather than out and out agi, to try and cater for the fact that I&#039;m winning on th e aggro stakes. What is it that i&#039;m doing so wrong?

I&#039;ve heard mixed reports about bite vs claw, not having both on, only using growl... I&#039;m stuck to be honest, and this looks like a great forum with REAL views, not the &quot;You such noob. give me 1g or die&quot; that i&#039;m used to on the Blizzard forums.

Any help would be HUGELY appreciated.

Thanks.

Ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Fantastic thread. So chuffed to have found this.. I&#8217;m just wondering, with a slightly tenuous link to the bite vs claw thread &#8211; I&#8217;m totally ill-informed at the whole WOW thing, despite being a lvl 70 hunter. I&#8217;m tearing my hair out trying to understand how bite, claw, focus, growl etc actually works. What it actually does? I have a lynx as a pet (incidentally names cuckinfat, you work it out) And I&#8217;m struggling to stop him losing aggro and pinning it all on me. Even if i go with aspect of the Viper, and do nothing but autoshoot I&#8217;m still attracting more aggro over time. My pet is lvl 5, so he has one more to go. He&#8217;s got growl, claw and bite on auto, cobra reflexes, and the usual &#8211; armour, health etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I for that matter have had to downscale all my armour to focus on sta and int rather than out and out agi, to try and cater for the fact that I&#8217;m winning on th e aggro stakes. What is it that i&#8217;m doing so wrong?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard mixed reports about bite vs claw, not having both on, only using growl&#8230; I&#8217;m stuck to be honest, and this looks like a great forum with REAL views, not the &#8220;You such noob. give me 1g or die&#8221; that i&#8217;m used to on the Blizzard forums.</p>
<p>Any help would be HUGELY appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Ad.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephf</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/05/22/wotlk-rumor-bite-claw/comment-page-1/#comment-21116</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should just keep Bite the way it is if Blizzard is going to change it. I have enough trouble with my Carrion Bird with its Claw already, and I dont need Bite to become worst like it too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should just keep Bite the way it is if Blizzard is going to change it. I have enough trouble with my Carrion Bird with its Claw already, and I dont need Bite to become worst like it too..</p>
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