Patch 2.4.2: Razorthorn Ravager Cannot Be Tamed
After seeing this pop up on the forums a few times today, I flew out to Razorthorn Ridge to check for myself. And it is unfortunately true: Razorthorn Ravagers are can no longer be tamed.
The pic at left is from Beast Lore, of course, but I also stabled my cat and tried to tame one anyway, only to see: “Creature not tameable.”
Now, there are a few reported problems with these ravagers getting stuck in Evade mode right now, so perhaps we shouldn’t panic just yet. But the fact that Beast Lore says they cannot be tamed seems pretty indicative to me. It’s a pity: I’d rather see more pet choices at level 70 instead of fewer.
Table of Contents for Series: Patch 2.4.2
- Patch 2.4.2 Is Live!
- Patch 2.4.2: No Changes to Growl Scaling
- Patch 2.4.2: Scare Beast Not Instant
- Patch 2.4.2: Razorthorn Ravager Cannot Be Tamed
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…Wow. A lot of problems with this patch much?
I have already tamed my raven so I dont have problems next week when they hotfix them. ><
You are obviously too ‘young’ Autumnn to remember the original ZG snakes…
K’
To be honest, i’m not really angry about this.
Now there’s a least one uncommon ravager skin (The green ravagers from Bloodmyst).
Before the patch there was an exploit involving being able to teach the ravager all the skills it could learn regardless of training points. So I reported it :P
Oh, and it’s too bad that Blizz couldn’t think of another solution to the problem.
LOL!!!!
I dropped one today to tame the raven instead. LOL!
Now I was doing dailies with the ravager today before I got the raven, so they don’t seem to be taking them away.
Grab a raven while you can!
(Blizz does hate hunters, don’t they?…)
i never tried taming a razorthorn ravager, but i know from the “discovering your roots” quest, that alot of razorthorns are bugged. The most common bug is some of them lose agression. This bug is appreciated in all honesty, it is a pleasant suprise when some mobs don’t attack for once. When I tried this on my druid i had some go non agressive after rooting them, but not many, not sure if it is in some way CC related or merely a coincidence. I have yet to try it with hunter traps to see.
Well, I never really liked Ravagers anyway, guess I’m lucky? It would be nice, however, if there was more thanan ugly bright orange ravager to tame at 70 >.<
The evade bug has been there since day one. I think it has something to do with when people drop the pet after Discovering your roots quest. There’s also a bug that prevents you from getting a flayer gland if another person in your party has already gotten all five of their roots. Not sure if they’ve fixed this one yet or not since I’ve been very careful to make my husband wait to get his roots until I’ve also gotten a flayer gland and tamed a ravager for the quest.
To tell which ones will evade, go up to them, if they attack, you can use the gland on them. If they ignore you, using the gland will not work and the gland will disappear. Causing you to have to kill more of those stupid flayers to get another gland. This was one of the buggiest quests I’ve seen in a LONG time. I’d reported both of these the first day the quest was available and I know others in my guild did after that.
Personally I never cared for the “skinny” ravager skin… mostly like the beefed up ones at 61-63. The smiley ones, in other words, hehe. I had one of these for a time but got rid of him, hehe.
Saphia – its true that you can’t get a gland if someone in your party already has 5 roots, ‘but’ only one person in the party needs a ravager to expose the roots, anyone can pick them up once exposed.
I’m not surprised by this, but not because of Blizzard’s ‘hatred of Hunters’. I’ve seen this happen before with the game. Sometimes they do something in the patch and it reverts things backwards a bit. It’s not a game killer. It may be fixed later. I remember them having huge issues with poisons not lasting through death, or wiping clean when zoning into an instance. They put it in three patches where it wouldn’t do that, but the next patch always caused it to revert back to how it was. In the end, they suspended trying until TBC came out and they could properly fix it.
I have seen a number of pathing type issues on more than one pet. getting stuck in odd places, standing next to me and not attacking even though I get the sound effects and so on, no action, no damage. nothing I can pin down, just strange. all since the 2.4 patch.
not attacking can be real irritating however :)
I looked at the ravagers yesterday on my way to a fishing daily and saw they weren’t tamable. thought that odd. more than one thing that got changes last minute and not reflected in the change notes. seems to me it’s easier to change change notes than it is to recode, but then, I’m like that. :)
sorry about responding to my own post but I just thought about the ravagers – there is a daily cooking quest that requires ‘controlling’ those ravagers to dig up stuff. perhaps the code conflicted with that control, since you have a pet bar and such. bet that is where that came from.
I’m not a huge ravager fan, but I’m very disappointed that they had to make this creature un-tameable. I have noticed myself how buggy they are, and I am assuming that trait follows after they are tamed. Pity. :(
I do, however, have my Dire Raven on both my L70 Huntresses for when they are nerfed. :P
@ Krush: As long as they don’t make the Ravens un-feedable, we won’t see another case like the Serpents. After all, the Ghost Wolves are no longer tameable, but can be fed still.
Maybe its just me, but those ravagers are so much cooler as temporary pets. I wish normal ravagers had those skills, plus maybe growl, I’d have one for sure.
Wait, what the hell? XD Why is everyone predicting they’re going to take the ravens away like they did the ghost wolves?
Seems to me if they PUT IT IN THE PATCH NOTES that a beast is now tameable, they’re not going to retract that. It’s different if a tameable new beast of a known family is made untameable due to coding issues (Death Ravager, Torgos, now these guys) that make them unreliable as pets, IMO.
Now I’m tempted to go check the Sunblade dragonhawks again for tameable status.
This just makes my ravager from Bloodmyst Isle all the more special.
Ansawa, those ravagers WERE put in the patch notes as tameable. And it doesn’t matter what BLizzard says, if they later decide to retract that, they can, will, and have before.
@Krush – I know all about the ZG snakes. I tamed my ghost wolf early just as I tamed my raven early. You can’t trust what Blizz says or does so you just have to do what you can.
I tamed one of these Ravagers before the patch myself, they did seem a bit buggy (Mine kindly made a ‘clone’ of itself over my 62 Ghost Saber which caused me to do a UI Reset) But it is a shame =/ I would enjoy more level 70 pets to be tamed because the select few we have are such a PAIN to get. Especially all of those in instances.
And it seems we just keep losing our level 70 pets more with each patch =/
Yep Autumnn,
That is why I have my fingers crossed (for you guys, I never did pick up the wolf or the raven, though I was thinking about trading my orange ravager for a green one :( )
K’
[quote]Ansawa, those ravagers WERE put in the patch notes as tameable.[/quote]
They were? I thought they were just added as part of 2.4 and they just happened to be tameable.
I don’t agree with Blizz’s handling of the ghost wolf thing, but they were never supposed to be pets. The ravens however were explicitly mentioned. In fact when the patch first went up on the PTR it was the first thing said in the notes.
ravagers can be tamed in patch 2.4.2.
north east of bloodmyst isle u got lvl 17 ravagers those can be tamed.. i got one atm since the new update :)
(use concussive shot and freezing trap, cuz of stun)
goodluck
there’s obviously some coding thing I don’t appreciate. When a mob gets tamed, it loses its inherent characteristics and becomes “generic (beast type)” plus whatever trainable skills it’s supposed to start with. I understand that, pre-tame, these ravagers have some very complex coded behaviour, but it seems bizarre that this should cause problems when the “Razorthorn Ravager” wild mob has become just “Ravager” tamed pet. Surely the original mob has been replaced by a different entity with the same skin, hasn’t it? Or you’d get all its pre-tame abilities, like you do with the level 10 taming quests.
Blizzard should make a class that can “learn” those pre-tame abilities by being subject to them, or seeing them casted, then killing the enemy (kinda like the blue mage in FF). Yeah, that’s kinda random, but I wanted to put it up, hehe. Blizz is probably hoping we’ll forget all this pet crap when WotLK comes out with all the new shinies anyway.
I THOUGHT they were, Rasen, but now I have gone back through the notes, and I can’t find it anymore. Weird, but I was mistaken.
Mania – I just read that there are plans to remove the Amani Bear Mount when the WotLK expansion comes out. /cry
You know, everyone’s running around and seems to have missed what I posted.
This may be one of those horrible examples of where an expansion is better than a patch. They may, indeed, be intended to be tamable, but this patch code conflicted with the last patch code and reverted them back to untamable.
It may not be until the expansion that this could be fixed.
I was thinking about getting one of these to replace my lvl 65 rip blade ravager from BEM, but i guess ill have to lvl him now.
Wow, I recently got mine to best friend. I never had problems with her behavior, nor did I have problems taming her. It’s actually a common ravager pet on my server; everyone grabbed one when they appeared up there on the ridge.
Got one on my dwarf. No problems so far. Tamed before the quest hit, if it matters.
Well, apparently there was a bug behind these guys being made untameable–not a behavior glitch or a problem with the quest or anything, but an actual exploit.
Hunters doing the daily may have noticed that they can use mend pet on their temporary ravager while it’s under the influence of the flayer gland. Apparently this extended to pet TRAINING as well, because “mind-controlled” Razorthorn Ravagers could be taught ANY pet skill (available to the ravager family), regardless of the amount of training points. The kicker is that you could then release them and tame them “for real,” and they’d STILL have all those skills trained. So you could theoretically have a pet with all ranks of all resistances, all the lovely active skills, full ranks of great stamina and natural armor, etc., etc.
So yes. They couldn’t patch around it, so they made them untameable to avoid people abusing this. :x
As a warlock you can cast health funnel during this quest. It seems that they just take the normal pet routines to get this quest working… poor blizzard…
by the way: for what reasons we have test servers? ;-)
I found the training bug by accident, noticed that as BM spec the ravenger could use all the BM talents.
Beastial wrath et all;
Sooo…i tried giving it growl , then other skills, then all of them…
tamed Ravenger with neg 1009 skill points.
Everything maxed , love this guy!
Ah, that makes sense! Well, some sense anyway. :> Thanks for the details on that exploit, Ansawa!
Sure, no problem, Mania! “Discovery” on that tidbit goes to Liet, who passed it to me.
Curiously, while I COULD use mend pet (didn’t try Bestial Wrath–I’ll need to next time I have one), I couldn’t use kill command. I got a “you don’t have a pet” message.
Darn it! I was trying to get to 70 so i could snag one of those critters, missed it. people keep mentioning the Dire ravens, is there a bug with them too?
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