Comments on: PTR 2.4.2: Focused Testing on Hunter UI/Kill Command

By: Yoshii

Yoshii — Fri, 09 May 2008 11:28:37 +0000

THis is the macro i use

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show(

i have had that problem many many times. and i thought it was my computer screwing up.

but yes my escape key would “break” and my auto-shot would epic fail, only allowing me to manually cast spells/

glad to see Blizzard finally wants to fix this

By: Never

Never — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:12:02 +0000

and here i thought i was the only one with this happening since no other hunter in my guild gets it. i have found that when the autoshot/esc key freeze up thing happens (which also doesnt let me feed my pet either oddly enough) if i run up to the next mob being attacked and kill it melee everything usually goes back to normal once the mob dies.

By: Elaith

Elaith — Fri, 02 May 2008 03:56:50 +0000

I dont use macro’s either… and this kill command bug is my bane!
when it gets stuck there goes my autoshot and dps.
The quckest way to “fix” it is to run into melee range and spam wingclip until i get another crit, enabling the killcommand which then allows me to use and clear it.
Im BM and i use the std auto-steady 1:1 rotation.

By: Allisera

Allisera — Fri, 02 May 2008 00:28:45 +0000

I tend to link abilities and trinkets to my shots, in macros, such that I don’t have to worry about keeping them up, and can instead focus on my shot ratio. I had to take Kill Command out because of this bug – not because Macros were the sole cause, but rather, because including it in a macro was more likely to trigger it.

Personally, I use a 1:1 ratio, with 1 arcane shot and 2 steady shots. I came to the conclusion that this was the most efficient for me after several bouts of testing with a damage meter. Yes, with a much higher (ie slower) speed, you will have more time to weave in that multi-shot or sting. However, the extra damage done comes at the expense of other damage. In approximately 6 seconds, I’m getting 3 autoshots, 2 steady shots, and 1 arcane shot. Contrast this to what an average 3:2 ratio would get – effectively 2 autoshots, 2 steady shots, and 1 arcane shot. Now, if you’re at a slower speed, that’s what’s best for you, because you won’t be able to get in 3 autoshots in 6 seconds. It depends on spec and gear.

By: Palladiamors

Palladiamors — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:21:21 +0000

I don’t use macros, addons, nothing aside from the main game itself, and I have never encountered this, even when manually firing off things like a mad man. Could the problem be an addon, or are we positive its in the threading some where? Considering the seeming wide spreadness of it, I’d wager its in the threading, but does that make it a macro problem, or something in the system? We’ll take the system route for now, since people have commented that even non-macro they see this. Can anyone remember if this problem happened immediately, or after several times of using the macro? Is it prolonged usage, or is it just a fluke that occasionally causes the system to crap on itself? Is kill command what causes it to freeze, or is it just the macro rotation itself?

Sarayana, its far from impossible or even hard to do a 3:2 manually. The only time I could see it being a pain would be during rapid fire, and then its just because you really have to be on the ball. Its a matter of timing, and if you know what to look or ‘feel’ for, rythm. 1:1s bug me, sorry everyone who uses that particular rotation. I just don’t feel like your maximizing your DPS output. Its not that hard to thread in arcane, multi, and steady with kill command as long as your paying attention. The only ‘problem’ is mana, and viper helps with that, if you don’t mind the loss in DPS. I know a lot of people do, but if losing what, ten or so DPS lets me keep pelting things with shots and KCs, then thats good by me. Though on longer boss fights I do have to keep potions around. Just my two cents.

By: Xota

Xota — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:48:08 +0000

As it has been stated, it happens most frequently with macros, so its most easily reproduced with macros, so its easiest to figure out what is wrong while using macros. But it should fix the problem with everyone.

Seriously, if you are having this problem, copy a toon over to the PTR and try to reproduce it. Use macros, don’t use macros, just try to get it to happen and note the conditions under which you got KC to jam. Otherwise you’re not part of the solution.

By: Pike

Pike — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:48:56 +0000

Hmm. I get these bugs without using a macro, so it kind of worries me that they’re focusing on macros. But hopefully they’ve fixed it anyway!

By: Xota

Xota — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:48:55 +0000

Well yes, it does happen on Live Realms, but Hortus wants people to test it on the Public TEST Realsm, because they’re trying to fix it there. Also, most people have no addons on PTR.

I’m not sure I entirely understand the big deal of the 3:2 macro, if it means you’re supposed to just hammer it and hope it only clips about one third of your autoshots? If that’s the case I’d rather just pay attention and get 1:1ish by not hammering, since my attack speed is fairly fast anyways.

That being said, I use pretty much the same macro (with kill command attempting before every steady shot) on both live and test realm. It jams on live, but on test realm it seems to be working. I’ve even had the whole Crit->activate KC->target dies before KC procs happen, and without the jam. Very hopeful its actually working.

By: Vulpinor & Canopener

Vulpinor & Canopener — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:17:02 +0000

Hey Mania,

I know you’re asking for ptr testing but I’ve seen this same bug on my live server. I’ve been noticing that sometimes my kill command seems to get stuck on. I’m unable to feed Canopener or loot items. I also can’t feed my poor pet (who’s been with me since level 10) which caused me no small amount of distress. If this does happen, it gets reset when I exit the game and log in again. Hope that can help people who find themselves with a hungry pet.

Vulpinor and Canopener

By: Kerub

Kerub — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:33:50 +0000

this 1:1 macro i use all the time when it gets stuck you have to use kill command on another target to get unstuck, before you can feed your pet, or do most anything else