Hortus has posted several interesting replies on the WoW Public Test Realm forum today about Growl threat in Patch 2.4.2. Before we look at those responses, though, let’s sum up what’s been said so far.
First, the 2.4.2 Test Realm Patch Notes were posted, and included the note that “The pet ability Growl will no longer scale with pet Attack Power.”
Reading this, worried hunters asked for clarification on the PTR forums. Netharea responded several times:
- “It [i.e. Growl] will scale with the hunter’s AP now.” (source)
- “Growl was scaling incorrectly before so it’s been changed to scale with the hunter’s AP starting at around 1200 AP. Other pet abilities such as bite, claw, etc will still scale with pet AP.” (source)
- “Please keep in mind this isn’t changing the normal amount of threat that pets produce.” (source)
After that, I and several other hunters tested the scaling on Growl from the hunter’s RAP on the PTR. I personally found no evidence that Growl scaled with the hunter RAP up to a RAP of 1853 (although at least one other hunter had conflicting results). At any rate, I posted my results on the PTR forum as a potential bug.
Hortus replied twice to this thread today.
There was not a change to the way Growl scales with hunter AP, the bug fix eliminated growl scaling with the pet’s attack power.
Growl has always scaled with hunter attack power in exactly the same way as it does in 2.4.2, there were no changes. I have verified multiple times that growl threat does scale with hunter AP AND that it is doing so in the same way in 2.4.1 and 2.4.2.
I’m sorry if you were given the impression that this was a new feature.
This is the last post I will be making about pet threat, no matter what I say I’m accused of lying or being wrong. Right now as of 2.4.2 growl is creating the intended amount of threat and is scaling with hunter attack power at an intended rate. If you do not agree with this then please post your opinions in the appropriate forums (suggestions or class forums).
As this is not considered a bug no amount of posting here or in the bug report forums will get it changed.
Hortus also posted one more clarifying statement in another thread:
The only change to pet threat in 2.4.2 is that growl no longer gets bonus threat from buffs to your pets AP (such as charge or blessing of might).
So what are we to make of this?
First, it’s clear that the threat generated by Growl will not be scaling with pet AP in Patch 2.4.2. *grin* Seriously, though, this change will likely be noticed by: hunters who use boars, Marksmanship hunters who buff with Trueshot Aura, and group/raid hunters who are in the habit of getting their pet buffed with Blessing of Might and so forth.
Secondly, my data indicates that Growl is not scaling with hunter AP, but Hortus indicates that it is — which probably means that there is something wrong with the way I collected my data. My favorite theory right now is that Growl doesn’t begin scaling at 1200 RAP as Nethaera mentioned, but instead starts scaling at much higher levels of hunter RAP that my pitiful little character can’t get to. If we had pre-mades on this PTR I could test that, but we don’t. (Assuming that the scaling floor varies by level, I might be able to test this on a lower level character. I’ll try that next.)
In any case, it look like we’re going to have to rewrite the models of Growl threat with this patch.
 I had a thought: We know that Growl (Rank 8) starts scaling on a level 70 pet when the pet’s AP reaches 734. Assume that the formulas are still the same but eliminate the AP strictly from the pet — now how much RAP does the hunter need to reach the same point? Turns out its 1955 RAP. I might be able to reach that on the PTR. At any rate, I am off to try!
[much later edit] The method I was using to test above turned out to be faulty. Myself and the other hunters who are putting in a lot of testing time on this matter (like Nimizar, Ashraf, and Znodis) worked out better methods and discovered that, with the exception of boars and Charge, Growl continues to work on the PTR in the exact same way it works on the live realms. As of build 8278, there has been no change in Growl scaling.