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	<title>Comments on: Petopia: Fake Skills and Allakhazam</title>
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		<title>By: Ryno</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18417</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a winner to me. But again, hunters already have funds going out to things like ammo, quivers, etc., hehe, enough to worry about than paying for a pet to be leveled. Nevertheless, I like the idea of it as an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a winner to me. But again, hunters already have funds going out to things like ammo, quivers, etc., hehe, enough to worry about than paying for a pet to be leveled. Nevertheless, I like the idea of it as an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18380</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryno-

One idea that I&#039;ve had kicking around in the back of my head is the idea of buying levels.  It would, say, cost a lot of money to get a pet from level one to level 70, but it would really cut down on the agony of leveling up a given pet skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryno-</p>
<p>One idea that I&#8217;ve had kicking around in the back of my head is the idea of buying levels.  It would, say, cost a lot of money to get a pet from level one to level 70, but it would really cut down on the agony of leveling up a given pet skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryno</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18368</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blizzard should let pets gain rested exp while in the stables, with no cap, hehe. That way you could get some low pet, stable it, pick it up a few days or a week later, and level it even faster.

Or, Blizzard could have pets in the stable level, just at a very slow rate. So you could level one pet, and still have a few more gaining exp.

This would help with pets being distributed how they are... hehe. That or have buyable pets, costing a fortune, for the lazy hunters... though choosing which ones would be available to buy would be hard, hmm... plus that&#039;s a lot of coding  in one spot, hehe... ah well. Just ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizzard should let pets gain rested exp while in the stables, with no cap, hehe. That way you could get some low pet, stable it, pick it up a few days or a week later, and level it even faster.</p>
<p>Or, Blizzard could have pets in the stable level, just at a very slow rate. So you could level one pet, and still have a few more gaining exp.</p>
<p>This would help with pets being distributed how they are&#8230; hehe. That or have buyable pets, costing a fortune, for the lazy hunters&#8230; though choosing which ones would be available to buy would be hard, hmm&#8230; plus that&#8217;s a lot of coding  in one spot, hehe&#8230; ah well. Just ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18365</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Ryno, having unique family skills is always nice, unfortunately, as we&#039;ve seen with Charge, it can lead to problems as the skill gets left in the dust because that family won&#039;t show up again for ages and ages.  I would love to see two families with a given unique skill that way we can get them more readily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ryno, having unique family skills is always nice, unfortunately, as we&#8217;ve seen with Charge, it can lead to problems as the skill gets left in the dust because that family won&#8217;t show up again for ages and ages.  I would love to see two families with a given unique skill that way we can get them more readily.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryno</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18363</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. Yeah, I just kinda went off on opinion, a lot of what I said is dreaming. But Blizzard shouldn&#039;t be reduced to using other skills already in existence for pets, imho. I also didn&#039;t really consider in game family traits or anything like that in the wild... and as for nerfing a hunter, well, we all know that won&#039;t happen. =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. Yeah, I just kinda went off on opinion, a lot of what I said is dreaming. But Blizzard shouldn&#8217;t be reduced to using other skills already in existence for pets, imho. I also didn&#8217;t really consider in game family traits or anything like that in the wild&#8230; and as for nerfing a hunter, well, we all know that won&#8217;t happen. =P</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18361</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Ryno, a lot of why those skills were mentioned is that they&#039;re in game already, or would take modifying existing skills.  Part of it is also that any secondary root spell would cause a major nerf for the Hunter.

The reasons I though for having Nether Ray&#039;s use Lightning Breath is because they&#039;re relatives, the Tripod and the Sporebat, both have a lightning based attack, but also, as Casters, they get an actual chance to crit when hitting a mob with this skill.

The Tallstrider was suppose to have a healing aura originally, but it was pulled before the Hunter class was even implimented.  Unfortunately, while it would be a great idea, it can never be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ryno, a lot of why those skills were mentioned is that they&#8217;re in game already, or would take modifying existing skills.  Part of it is also that any secondary root spell would cause a major nerf for the Hunter.</p>
<p>The reasons I though for having Nether Ray&#8217;s use Lightning Breath is because they&#8217;re relatives, the Tripod and the Sporebat, both have a lightning based attack, but also, as Casters, they get an actual chance to crit when hitting a mob with this skill.</p>
<p>The Tallstrider was suppose to have a healing aura originally, but it was pulled before the Hunter class was even implimented.  Unfortunately, while it would be a great idea, it can never be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryno</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18356</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sporebats should have an aura, I think. One that heals very little and deals little damage to all allies/enemies in range (20 yards perhaps?) constantly. It would cost focus, but focus regeneration would be able to keep it going all the time. Thus, they could keep it up most of the time, while using growl.

Crocolisks could have a skill called deathroll, where the crocolisk and the victim are rooted, unable to act for 5 seconds. The cooldown could be 5 minutes, but it&#039;d be an awesome stun. No damage done also, plus the pet can&#039;t attack during that time. 5 minute cooldown would make it hard to take any drastic advantage of this in pvp (often, hehe =P ).

Spiders need a web, plain and simple. There&#039;re already pets with poison skills, and a web sounds more fun. It would be a melee range attack, rooting the enemy for a few seconds, with a 2 minute cooldown.

Nether Rays don&#039;t need a lightning breath, sheesh, wind serpents have that silly... they need a mana drain ability! Little cooldown, but they could drain a chunk of the enemy&#039;s mana, which would be a channeled ability.

Hyenas need a heckling or giggle ability of sorts, perhaps one that would reduce enemy attack power or something. I was thinking of it as a fear, maybe 2 seconds of it, all in melee range, but that could be overpowered if not handled well...

Well, there&#039;s my opinion. The other skills sound good, hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sporebats should have an aura, I think. One that heals very little and deals little damage to all allies/enemies in range (20 yards perhaps?) constantly. It would cost focus, but focus regeneration would be able to keep it going all the time. Thus, they could keep it up most of the time, while using growl.</p>
<p>Crocolisks could have a skill called deathroll, where the crocolisk and the victim are rooted, unable to act for 5 seconds. The cooldown could be 5 minutes, but it&#8217;d be an awesome stun. No damage done also, plus the pet can&#8217;t attack during that time. 5 minute cooldown would make it hard to take any drastic advantage of this in pvp (often, hehe =P ).</p>
<p>Spiders need a web, plain and simple. There&#8217;re already pets with poison skills, and a web sounds more fun. It would be a melee range attack, rooting the enemy for a few seconds, with a 2 minute cooldown.</p>
<p>Nether Rays don&#8217;t need a lightning breath, sheesh, wind serpents have that silly&#8230; they need a mana drain ability! Little cooldown, but they could drain a chunk of the enemy&#8217;s mana, which would be a channeled ability.</p>
<p>Hyenas need a heckling or giggle ability of sorts, perhaps one that would reduce enemy attack power or something. I was thinking of it as a fear, maybe 2 seconds of it, all in melee range, but that could be overpowered if not handled well&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s my opinion. The other skills sound good, hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18237</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Varsar and I have been making some suggestions about how to finish out pet skills on a different thread.  I thought I&#039;d repost them here to get some comments.

Crabs- Thorns, a Passive damage spell that consumes one charge each hit.  This is a combination of the Fake Pet Skill and the Shaman spell Lightning Shield.

Crocolisks- Rend, a Damage over Time ability similar to the Warrior skill.

Hyena- same as Crocolisk, both animals tend to do similar behaviors in the wild.

Nether Rays- Lightning Breath.  Nether Rays, Sporebats and Tripods all have a lightning teather type ability.  I figured that this would be a good solution.

Spiders- Poison Spit similar to Serpent&#039;s.  Certain spider mobs do this.

Sporebats- Sporecloud, (instant, 30 sec CD, Deals X to Y damage and then Z damamge every 2 seconds over 10 seconds to all mobs in melee range, This ability causes a moderate amount of additional threat.), Lightning Breath.  Sporebats do something similar &#039;in the wild&#039;.

Tallstrider- Screech, giving them the only land based application to that.  This idea actually goes all the way back to where they got these mobs from.  It is said that some actual flightless birds of old actually would use a scream/screech to intimidate enemies.

Turtles- Varsar recomended that this have a damage reflection component to it similar to the Improved PW Shield ability of a Discipline Priest.

Gorillas- Charge. Retool of Thunderstomp- Instant, CD 30 seconds, does X to Y damage to all mobs in melee range.  Varsar recomended keeping it to a 30 second cool down.  I recomended it be in melee range.

Wolf- Furious Howl’s focus cost reduced.  This would allow for FH to be cast more often, boosting a Wolf&#039;s overall DPS.

The sporecloud was completely Varsar&#039;s idea.  I just added it in to make this one post, and because I liked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Varsar and I have been making some suggestions about how to finish out pet skills on a different thread.  I thought I&#8217;d repost them here to get some comments.</p>
<p>Crabs- Thorns, a Passive damage spell that consumes one charge each hit.  This is a combination of the Fake Pet Skill and the Shaman spell Lightning Shield.</p>
<p>Crocolisks- Rend, a Damage over Time ability similar to the Warrior skill.</p>
<p>Hyena- same as Crocolisk, both animals tend to do similar behaviors in the wild.</p>
<p>Nether Rays- Lightning Breath.  Nether Rays, Sporebats and Tripods all have a lightning teather type ability.  I figured that this would be a good solution.</p>
<p>Spiders- Poison Spit similar to Serpent&#8217;s.  Certain spider mobs do this.</p>
<p>Sporebats- Sporecloud, (instant, 30 sec CD, Deals X to Y damage and then Z damamge every 2 seconds over 10 seconds to all mobs in melee range, This ability causes a moderate amount of additional threat.), Lightning Breath.  Sporebats do something similar &#8216;in the wild&#8217;.</p>
<p>Tallstrider- Screech, giving them the only land based application to that.  This idea actually goes all the way back to where they got these mobs from.  It is said that some actual flightless birds of old actually would use a scream/screech to intimidate enemies.</p>
<p>Turtles- Varsar recomended that this have a damage reflection component to it similar to the Improved PW Shield ability of a Discipline Priest.</p>
<p>Gorillas- Charge. Retool of Thunderstomp- Instant, CD 30 seconds, does X to Y damage to all mobs in melee range.  Varsar recomended keeping it to a 30 second cool down.  I recomended it be in melee range.</p>
<p>Wolf- Furious Howl’s focus cost reduced.  This would allow for FH to be cast more often, boosting a Wolf&#8217;s overall DPS.</p>
<p>The sporecloud was completely Varsar&#8217;s idea.  I just added it in to make this one post, and because I liked it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18155</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not add a list of pet skills that exist in the wild but that are not available?

Such as net for spiders. You see tamable and non-tamable pets in the wild that have some interesting skills that are not available at all.

Additionally, you could add a page for frequent requested pet skills. For example, I would want to see resilience as trainable for pets.

Like the new look, takes a bit of getting used to is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not add a list of pet skills that exist in the wild but that are not available?</p>
<p>Such as net for spiders. You see tamable and non-tamable pets in the wild that have some interesting skills that are not available at all.</p>
<p>Additionally, you could add a page for frequent requested pet skills. For example, I would want to see resilience as trainable for pets.</p>
<p>Like the new look, takes a bit of getting used to is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/04/14/petopia-fake-skills-and-allakhazam/comment-page-1/#comment-18136</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ket Shi,

I noticed that some of those pet skills were retooled and made into official skills.  Some of them did seem rather over powered though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ket Shi,</p>
<p>I noticed that some of those pet skills were retooled and made into official skills.  Some of them did seem rather over powered though.</p>
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