Comments on: RFC: Battleground Pets

By: Fearmdemon

Fearmdemon — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:42:16 +0000

okokok…..i understand where Cobra Reflexes comes in, but really when will AoE occur in a battleground? i mean sure, with my warlock i know that shadowfury is used almost too often, but thats about it. you dont see a warlock walking around hellfiring away or raining fire, it uses too much mana, and the warlock KNOWS that. other classes use minimal AoE, but there REALLY isnt enough of it to waste points on a skill like that. and on the same note with the attack speed, would you rather have more attacks with less damage, or less with more? it seems like a win-win situation, but you kinda DO want more attaks, for say if your pet has Seed of Corruption, and has 10 seconds to live, and you KNOW 5 of his attacks will be dodged, with the extra speed you get 15 100 dmg attacks, without you get 9 200 damage attacks. see where im going? and my PET suggestion is a serpent. with its long range AoE, when pesky rogues decide to get close on their mount then stealth, send ur serpent for his spit to AoE the lil pest while u take care of other matters, failproof

Fearmdemon(lock)
and Yesnumbrtwo(hunter)
Suramar

By: Heitrusan

Heitrusan — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:40:49 +0000

I’d like to have my say in this. I’m a beast master spec so i dps with my pet right? Well, What I really hate is when warlocks and mages, and all those other classes aim for my pet instead of me. So I really think marksman comes in handy at times where you’re being ignored and your pet is being eaten inside out. >=O. My poor kitty is always being killed so i leave my spec 41/12/8 because i need that longer sHooting range on my bow xD. But i have to say is that in BG the pet that would dominate is either cat (Bttr if you were a NE hunter), a boar, and well, i guess a owl or carrion cause I know the pain of being hit by a bird and not being able to target the hunter… (but if u press tab its gg for the hunter xD) 2 bad people dont know that kinda..

By: Yossir (w/ Torc & Ravioli)

Yossir (w/ Torc & Ravioli) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:49:52 +0000

My raptor Torc and ravager Ravioli are my main (and only) battleground pets because they’re in the two pet families tied for highest base attack power and damage. The my pets both know bite as a main attack as well as the focus-dumps claw and gore. Dash is also in there because the faster your pet hits the target the faster you deal damage. My pets know Growl but I have it turned off (they still have to tank when I solo and grind). Their resistances are at rank 2 since I don’t find them as important as their attack skills. As for Armor vs Stamina, I literally flipped a coin and decided to go with Armor but after some advice from other hunter in my guild, I’ll respec them to Stamina.

Other excellent BG pet choices are bats, owls, windserpents, and cats. Each of these pet families have high dps and speed boosters. Cats have the benefit of prowl but I think this is only useful if you’re a night elf (I’m a Tauren BTW). Windserpent also have lightning breath which is a HUGE source of extra damage. Bats and owls can both learn Screech whick helps you survive a little longer against warriors, rogues, pallies and some shamans (since it lowers melee AP).

There are of course some great non-damage pets. The main one that comes to mind for me is the dragonhawk (I don’t have one but I plan on getting one). Dragonhawks have a speed booster and their trademark spell, Fire Breath. The attack has a decnet DoT but the AoE best part. It can be activated at anytime so that means it can be used to unstealth a rogue or druid trying to get the jump on you.

Wolves are ok but are better for raiding. Hyenas and strides are ok but not very great. Bears and turtles just suck in PvP even if you’re BM (I’m survival/MM) because their dps output is pathetic. Scorpions are Arena pets and aren’t very helpful in BGs. Boars are PvE pets and are capable of PvP but I would never use one. Sporebats, crocs, crabs, spiders, and netherrays are pretty much useless in all situations.

So essential things for a BG pet to have are high dps, a speed booster, plenty of stamina, and above all, a good hunter to fight alongside with and keep them alive.

FOR THE HORDE!!!

By: anna

anna — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:20:16 +0000

i must say boar in warsong gluch owns but i’m a lvl 19 twink so i dont know about the others it good for getting the flag carriers stuneed then concussise shot :) hope this helps some one :))

By: Stephf

Stephf — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:41:01 +0000

I just use either a Owl/Bat, for its Screech and Claw moves, or a Cat, or the DPS and claw. They are pretty good but I cant think of better.Well, not now anyway, Im tired.

By: Boomsticked

Boomsticked — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:29:40 +0000

For BGs, I basically use a cat (I’m a night elf) or a Ravager for high dps.
I’m BM spec’d and the strat i use is as follows

WSG -> Just mess around in the middle, kill or be killed and sometimes i go for flag, just drop a frost trap whenever someone comes close to u, and when its a druid just fear

AB -> Put cat on prowl and stay next to the node and put urself in shadowmeld in the buildings, can usually get an aimed shot off.

AV -> Follow the mob, pet gets killed often here, just stay behind the mob and shoot them with your skills.

EoTS -> Stay in middle and fight, alliance actually wins this almost always so i just try to dps and kill pplz.

Imo, BM’s ok for BG due to the fear and CC resist but being marks is WAY better for all PvP and dmg outputs. I respec’d to marks when i was in the 40s just for fun and found out that my dps skyrocketed and i got a lot more kills.

For marks and wsg, just follow their FC and scatter/imp concuss/auto shot with concus spec and its pretty much a gimme.

Never tried survial and pretty sure i never will, the sting just doesnt appeal to me that much when u sacrifice dps (from pet as BM and bow as MM)for melee dps. Although Entrapment and imp wing clip is kinda appealing, drop a frost trap and while the kid’s in the aura it immobilizes him like hell.

By: bitU

bitU — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:30:58 +0000

Well, to be honest I tried to read all of the comments above, but got tired.

My opinion about the PvP pets mostly the same as everyone. The PvP pet must have high DPS, be really fast (Charge/Dash/Warp). On pet skills, I also advise the basic must-be-need (Cobra Reflexes, Avoidance, etc.) And max shadow & frost res. On pet skin, I have the http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/skins/skin_tigerskinblack.php skin cat, because it can be confused with a NE druid in catform, letting most enemy thought I have a druid to assist me.

About pet per BGs type:

Well, I change my pet according to the type of the BG, because…

…Boars are the best for WSG, for their man-stopper charge. It helps u alot to stop an EFC, even he/she has some considerable number of assisting players. And it can pick off an enemy pursuer from your FC. Great ability. I also use the boar sometimes in AV, because the charge stun can interrupt any spell.

…Cats are really the best flag defenders for AB, for their Prowl ability. I usually deploy my pet on the flag, with the “stay” mode, with auto-activated Prowl and Bite. I hide myself out of LoS, but in the vicinity of the flag, and only watching my pet bar. If her (female cat ofcoz ^^) show any activity I wait a few sec, letting the enemy focus on my pet, then come out and ambush upon the surprised victim, who oftenly confused enough to slow his/her actions. I use her mostly in EotS, to defend a base, or interrupts flag captures in the middle. Also good for almost any BGs, because of her high DPS.

By: Messyah

Messyah — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:51:57 +0000

Palladiamors – If you give us your Toon name and server, perhaps the many well-versed hunters here can help you figure out how to squeeze more AP out of your spec and gear.

By: Messyah

Messyah — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:50:16 +0000

Again, I reiterate for the Bear nay-sayers (including myself). In a Raid, there should be absolutely no reason your pet should be trying to tank a raid-elite Mob and there is minimal-to-no chance of your pet surviving unless your healers are focussed on it. If that is the case, that means your real tank(s) are dead and your raid party is most likely screwed!

Now, yes, bears do have more health. None of us are arguing that, but as Concrete pointed out, a mindful Hunter’s pet takes minimal damage in raids because the Hunter is always aware of his Pet’s surroundings and knows when to pull him out of harm’s way. So, if your Deadly Boss Mod reports a whirlwind, spit, hateful strike, etc. GYPTFO!

By: marzix

marzix — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:11:09 +0000

oh, and to losing 20% damage between a bear and a cat… thats 20% of 40% of your damage(8% overall) if you are BM and only 20% of 15% of your damage(3% overall) as MM or surv. in a BG, that is almost nothing. in a long boss fight or a drawn out 2v2 arena match, yes, that can mean the difference (though skill can more than make up for it). however, for just regular BGs, it dont mean nothing. if im on offense in av or sit out in the middle on my hunter im tops damage without even using my pet most of the time. its nice on casters, but sicking it on almost anything else, its just gonna die even with close to 9k hps and over 10k armor on my scorpid. heck, a warrior beating down someone else on my team will kill my scorpid on whirlwinds alone fairly easy. i know, ive done it on my warrior before.