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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-17114</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salty-

It&#039;s possible that he slipped into yellow just when you took the shot and you missed it.  It does happen :D  So no worries.  Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salty-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that he slipped into yellow just when you took the shot and you missed it.  It does happen :D  So no worries.  Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Salty</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-17067</link>
		<dc:creator>Salty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugh = ( it&#039;s true, he was only medium happy. I have neglected my very equal big blue lizard friend since lv26 since TBC came out. Somehow that&#039;s very depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh = ( it&#8217;s true, he was only medium happy. I have neglected my very equal big blue lizard friend since lv26 since TBC came out. Somehow that&#8217;s very depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Salty</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-17023</link>
		<dc:creator>Salty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I&#039;ll have to host the SS on photobucket and link it to you. The 25% value is what really calls that into question, but I&#039;m sure I was keeping them both well fed for 1:1 comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;ll have to host the SS on photobucket and link it to you. The 25% value is what really calls that into question, but I&#8217;m sure I was keeping them both well fed for 1:1 comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-17022</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salty,

From what you said, I&#039;ll have to assume that they were on the same hunter.  Were both of them &#039;well fed&#039;?  If that little button next to the pet&#039;s bars is green and they are &#039;well fed&#039;, then they get a 25% damage buff.  Basically- Red = 75% normal damage, yellow = 100% normal damage, green = 125% normal damage.

I know it&#039;s a simple, stupid thing to ask, but my aunt use to be in tech service and she once fielded a call from someone who&#039;s computer wouldn&#039;t turn on.  Her first question was- is it plugged in?  It turns out, the computer wasn&#039;t plugged in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salty,</p>
<p>From what you said, I&#8217;ll have to assume that they were on the same hunter.  Were both of them &#8216;well fed&#8217;?  If that little button next to the pet&#8217;s bars is green and they are &#8216;well fed&#8217;, then they get a 25% damage buff.  Basically- Red = 75% normal damage, yellow = 100% normal damage, green = 125% normal damage.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s a simple, stupid thing to ask, but my aunt use to be in tech service and she once fielded a call from someone who&#8217;s computer wouldn&#8217;t turn on.  Her first question was- is it plugged in?  It turns out, the computer wasn&#8217;t plugged in.</p>
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		<title>By: Salty</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-17021</link>
		<dc:creator>Salty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two pet Raptors (and a Ravager pet to eek out more DPS), one is a Bladespire Ravager (elite Raptor from Gruul&#039;s Lair) and another is one of the Blue lv25-27 (I can&#039;t recall exactly) Raptors from Wetlands which I&#039;ve had since I started. Presently the wetlands raptor is stuck at lv67, and my Bladespire has been by my side through most of the BC content. When I initially trained the Bladespire I took some screencaps of the paper doll and compared them to my own raptor and at the same level, it looked like the Bladespire won out on damage by 25%.

I don&#039;t know if the Raptor that I&#039;d been using all the way from lv25 through 66 actually had &#039;caster stats&#039; or if BC raptors truly are buffed by about 25%, but if possible, I&#039;d like to know if anyone has done research to find out if that will have the same attributes at level 70. Do you have any idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two pet Raptors (and a Ravager pet to eek out more DPS), one is a Bladespire Ravager (elite Raptor from Gruul&#8217;s Lair) and another is one of the Blue lv25-27 (I can&#8217;t recall exactly) Raptors from Wetlands which I&#8217;ve had since I started. Presently the wetlands raptor is stuck at lv67, and my Bladespire has been by my side through most of the BC content. When I initially trained the Bladespire I took some screencaps of the paper doll and compared them to my own raptor and at the same level, it looked like the Bladespire won out on damage by 25%.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the Raptor that I&#8217;d been using all the way from lv25 through 66 actually had &#8216;caster stats&#8217; or if BC raptors truly are buffed by about 25%, but if possible, I&#8217;d like to know if anyone has done research to find out if that will have the same attributes at level 70. Do you have any idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-17018</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolfington-

Each of those I mentioned are rares that can learn those skills.  My idea is that a Rare would have all the active trainable skills that they can learn for their level and family.  This way, if you want to get all those skills, you don&#039;t have to grab three pets and learn them anew, but just grab one rare pet and learn them from that one pet (or keep it if you want).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolfington-</p>
<p>Each of those I mentioned are rares that can learn those skills.  My idea is that a Rare would have all the active trainable skills that they can learn for their level and family.  This way, if you want to get all those skills, you don&#8217;t have to grab three pets and learn them anew, but just grab one rare pet and learn them from that one pet (or keep it if you want).</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the answer to my question, Mania and Felandra! I was wondering just what intellect did ^^ now I know.

By the way, ignore the comment I had last time -- I missread Seidouyumi&#039;s post and thought he meant they would be more POWERFULL, not have more skills when tamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the answer to my question, Mania and Felandra! I was wondering just what intellect did ^^ now I know.</p>
<p>By the way, ignore the comment I had last time &#8212; I missread Seidouyumi&#8217;s post and thought he meant they would be more POWERFULL, not have more skills when tamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Felandra</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-16994</link>
		<dc:creator>Felandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wolfington: Well, the pet UI *says* that pet Intellect increases their Spell Critical Hit. The numbers don’t seem to work out, though, except possibly on caster pets — which is actually why I was testing them just prior to 2.4. That’s on hold for the moment, though, while I poke into threat generation.&quot;

True, but I have dug a little deeper into this.
Normal pets are Warriors, they share their buffs with them as we have learned to hate. But the interesting thing is that Warriors (and Rogues) don&#039;t gain ANY spellcrit whatsoever from Int. Hence our pets don&#039;t either.
However, caster pets are Paladins, and as such they scale on Int like they do. 80 Int = 1% spellcrit (at base it is quite complicated and I suggest you look up wowwiki for it) like most casters. 

Hence you can buff a caster pet&#039;s Int to gain even more spellcrit, while you can&#039;t with a normal pet.

The loss of Agi might also impact caster pets since like Paladins they gain more crit over normal pets. 25 agi = 1% crit for Pallies and 33 for Warriors. And in the end we can&#039;t discount the effects from BoK overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wolfington: Well, the pet UI *says* that pet Intellect increases their Spell Critical Hit. The numbers don’t seem to work out, though, except possibly on caster pets — which is actually why I was testing them just prior to 2.4. That’s on hold for the moment, though, while I poke into threat generation.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, but I have dug a little deeper into this.<br />
Normal pets are Warriors, they share their buffs with them as we have learned to hate. But the interesting thing is that Warriors (and Rogues) don&#8217;t gain ANY spellcrit whatsoever from Int. Hence our pets don&#8217;t either.<br />
However, caster pets are Paladins, and as such they scale on Int like they do. 80 Int = 1% spellcrit (at base it is quite complicated and I suggest you look up wowwiki for it) like most casters. </p>
<p>Hence you can buff a caster pet&#8217;s Int to gain even more spellcrit, while you can&#8217;t with a normal pet.</p>
<p>The loss of Agi might also impact caster pets since like Paladins they gain more crit over normal pets. 25 agi = 1% crit for Pallies and 33 for Warriors. And in the end we can&#8217;t discount the effects from BoK overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If rare pets had higher skills, then my Araga would pawn big time. So of coarse I switched to a diseased wolf! (Not saying that I don&#039;t still treasure my no-skilled rare kitty. She is a bueatiful kitty, I just got tierd of the.. Well, kitty part.) I must say, I would be rather unhappy if rare pets got great stats too. Some people stay in one place forever to get a pet that many people don&#039;t like the looks of. For instence, Brokentooth is very plain in my eyes. Meanwhile, pets that are not &quot;rare&quot; but have unique or just plain nice looks, are high on my list of pets I want. But these beauties wouldn&#039;t have the buffs, and that would irritate me.
(However, this has nothing to do with you or the idea of having rare pets with special traits, Seidouyumi. I really do like the idea and most of my pets would be on the high-powered list ^^ My brother, however, would go insane because he BG&#039;s all day and already believes that hunters are &quot;overpowered&quot; so he would just blow up if pets where buffed, hehe)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If rare pets had higher skills, then my Araga would pawn big time. So of coarse I switched to a diseased wolf! (Not saying that I don&#8217;t still treasure my no-skilled rare kitty. She is a bueatiful kitty, I just got tierd of the.. Well, kitty part.) I must say, I would be rather unhappy if rare pets got great stats too. Some people stay in one place forever to get a pet that many people don&#8217;t like the looks of. For instence, Brokentooth is very plain in my eyes. Meanwhile, pets that are not &#8220;rare&#8221; but have unique or just plain nice looks, are high on my list of pets I want. But these beauties wouldn&#8217;t have the buffs, and that would irritate me.<br />
(However, this has nothing to do with you or the idea of having rare pets with special traits, Seidouyumi. I really do like the idea and most of my pets would be on the high-powered list ^^ My brother, however, would go insane because he BG&#8217;s all day and already believes that hunters are &#8220;overpowered&#8221; so he would just blow up if pets where buffed, hehe)</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/pet-attributes-since-burning-crusade/comment-page-1/#comment-16967</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ra,

I&#039;ve wonder it too, that&#039;s why I came up with this.  And thank you for the compliment.  :)  I did have an idea about rare pets that may seem a bit odd.  It isn&#039;t that the rare pets would necessarily look better (though some do) or have better stats, but, rather, a rare/elite pet would have all the active skills available to that family on it.

So, say, Ressan the Needler would have Bite Rank 2, but Vultros, the rare Carrion Bird, would have Bite 4, Claw 4, and Screech 1.  And so on.  This means that a rare pet would be wanted for something more than look, but not make them more powerful than the others.

Batgirl-

I long ago learned that the simplest thing to do is not froth at the mouth and scream at Blizzard about a problem.  Those in power, no matter where you are, will find a way to hit you over the head.

So, I figured this was accidental.  It looks like it&#039;s the XP values from back before 2.3, and it&#039;s a minor inconvience over all to have to wait for the loyalty to ding upward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ra,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wonder it too, that&#8217;s why I came up with this.  And thank you for the compliment.  :)  I did have an idea about rare pets that may seem a bit odd.  It isn&#8217;t that the rare pets would necessarily look better (though some do) or have better stats, but, rather, a rare/elite pet would have all the active skills available to that family on it.</p>
<p>So, say, Ressan the Needler would have Bite Rank 2, but Vultros, the rare Carrion Bird, would have Bite 4, Claw 4, and Screech 1.  And so on.  This means that a rare pet would be wanted for something more than look, but not make them more powerful than the others.</p>
<p>Batgirl-</p>
<p>I long ago learned that the simplest thing to do is not froth at the mouth and scream at Blizzard about a problem.  Those in power, no matter where you are, will find a way to hit you over the head.</p>
<p>So, I figured this was accidental.  It looks like it&#8217;s the XP values from back before 2.3, and it&#8217;s a minor inconvience over all to have to wait for the loyalty to ding upward.</p>
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