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	<title>Comments on: Patch 2.4: Level 70 XP Increase</title>
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		<title>By: shibumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-17350</link>
		<dc:creator>shibumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reference to the TL:DR -
http://xkcd.com/406/

as for the loyalty issue I also thought things were wacky. Took my lvl 63 (just leveled) orc hunter to train a rip-blade ravager. easy tame, and I was at 3% at the time I tamed him. when I hit 10% I still hadn&#039;t gained a loyalty level and was growing concerned. I think it was about 11 or 15% that I started getting levels gained. Now I&#039;m lvl 4 loyalty and it seemed to follow the 5% rule after the first long lag. I will redo another critter before I&#039;m lvl 64 to make sure that I&#039;m right. I&#039;ll pay more attention this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to the TL:DR -<br />
<a href="http://xkcd.com/406/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/406/</a></p>
<p>as for the loyalty issue I also thought things were wacky. Took my lvl 63 (just leveled) orc hunter to train a rip-blade ravager. easy tame, and I was at 3% at the time I tamed him. when I hit 10% I still hadn&#8217;t gained a loyalty level and was growing concerned. I think it was about 11 or 15% that I started getting levels gained. Now I&#8217;m lvl 4 loyalty and it seemed to follow the 5% rule after the first long lag. I will redo another critter before I&#8217;m lvl 64 to make sure that I&#8217;m right. I&#8217;ll pay more attention this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrela</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-17130</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grabbed a new 68 dragonhawk and I have already gridned a half a lvl and she is still at rebellios so the xp is definetly affectign the loyalty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grabbed a new 68 dragonhawk and I have already gridned a half a lvl and she is still at rebellios so the xp is definetly affectign the loyalty</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-17057</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batgirl,

I also said somewhere that I have five (soon to be six) hunters.  I love playing them even though they aren&#039;t as useful as, say, a mage or a shaman.  I love my mage and shaman too.  So, no worries :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batgirl,</p>
<p>I also said somewhere that I have five (soon to be six) hunters.  I love playing them even though they aren&#8217;t as useful as, say, a mage or a shaman.  I love my mage and shaman too.  So, no worries :)</p>
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		<title>By: Znodis</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-16959</link>
		<dc:creator>Znodis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/english/melani/cs6/hope.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul&lt;/a&gt;
That Blizzard shoots repeatedly until all thats left is a beak with the word &#039;why&#039; frozen on it&#039;s lips.


Not that I&#039;m bitter about issues that have been around since beta like pet slots, or neglected pet families, or taming mechanics, or lack of instruction for how to training pets, or ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/english/melani/cs6/hope.html" rel="nofollow">Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul</a><br />
That Blizzard shoots repeatedly until all thats left is a beak with the word &#8216;why&#8217; frozen on it&#8217;s lips.</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m bitter about issues that have been around since beta like pet slots, or neglected pet families, or taming mechanics, or lack of instruction for how to training pets, or &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: batgrl</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-16954</link>
		<dc:creator>batgrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emowin: &quot;I’m allso wondering if in wotlk they are going to give us another slable slot or if I’m gonna have to loose on of my beloved pets to learn the new pet skills.&quot;

I am SO with you on this - heh, but then we all are! And frankly while I can see that it would be difficult I don&#039;t think it should be impossible to give us just one more. It&#039;s one of the things I look forward to finding out about most with WOTLK.

Seidouyumi : &quot;I do wish that there were fewer hunters though.&quot;

Thing is, hunters are such a great alt character to have for those of us with main characters who are needed for guild/grouping hooha. Secretly I love my hunter more than any of my &quot;useful&quot; characters to group with - and I can solo to my heart&#039;s content without bothering anyone. But I know what you mean. Of course since I solo with my hunter they can nerf the heck out of the class and I&#039;ll still be playing with it to see how I have to adapt my solo play to the changes, so it&#039;ll still interest me just as much. But I also luck out in that since no one will be relying on me to master my skills for grouping, there&#039;s no pressure on me, I have it easy.

Actually because there are so many hunters and because so many people roll them to play casually or as first characters there&#039;s possibly a better case that Blizz will give the class MORE attention, knowing what a large population plays them. That&#039;s what a lot of non-hunterfolk seem to moan about on the forums anyhow.

Those were great forum links, Znodis. I&#039;m still keeping my fingers crossed though - because those are older posts, and we know they&#039;ve already made changes that weren&#039;t originally planned back then. So, there&#039;s hope? Maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emowin: &#8220;I’m allso wondering if in wotlk they are going to give us another slable slot or if I’m gonna have to loose on of my beloved pets to learn the new pet skills.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am SO with you on this &#8211; heh, but then we all are! And frankly while I can see that it would be difficult I don&#8217;t think it should be impossible to give us just one more. It&#8217;s one of the things I look forward to finding out about most with WOTLK.</p>
<p>Seidouyumi : &#8220;I do wish that there were fewer hunters though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thing is, hunters are such a great alt character to have for those of us with main characters who are needed for guild/grouping hooha. Secretly I love my hunter more than any of my &#8220;useful&#8221; characters to group with &#8211; and I can solo to my heart&#8217;s content without bothering anyone. But I know what you mean. Of course since I solo with my hunter they can nerf the heck out of the class and I&#8217;ll still be playing with it to see how I have to adapt my solo play to the changes, so it&#8217;ll still interest me just as much. But I also luck out in that since no one will be relying on me to master my skills for grouping, there&#8217;s no pressure on me, I have it easy.</p>
<p>Actually because there are so many hunters and because so many people roll them to play casually or as first characters there&#8217;s possibly a better case that Blizz will give the class MORE attention, knowing what a large population plays them. That&#8217;s what a lot of non-hunterfolk seem to moan about on the forums anyhow.</p>
<p>Those were great forum links, Znodis. I&#8217;m still keeping my fingers crossed though &#8211; because those are older posts, and we know they&#8217;ve already made changes that weren&#8217;t originally planned back then. So, there&#8217;s hope? Maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Annai</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-16909</link>
		<dc:creator>Annai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *thought* something was off. I&#039;ve been hesitating to grab a ravager until 2.4 because of the new ones in the new area between Terrokar and Hellfire. I grabbed one and after using it exclusively to grind the daily quests for a few days, the pet is *still* at Loyalty 1. Really rough because you can&#039;t train anything other than Growl and with Growl seemingly a bit borked, the ravager can&#039;t hold agro hardly at all. One crit and I&#039;ve pulled the mob off. Can&#039;t really imagine the grind to &quot;Best Friend&quot;. May have to just dump the ravager and wait for the expansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *thought* something was off. I&#8217;ve been hesitating to grab a ravager until 2.4 because of the new ones in the new area between Terrokar and Hellfire. I grabbed one and after using it exclusively to grind the daily quests for a few days, the pet is *still* at Loyalty 1. Really rough because you can&#8217;t train anything other than Growl and with Growl seemingly a bit borked, the ravager can&#8217;t hold agro hardly at all. One crit and I&#8217;ve pulled the mob off. Can&#8217;t really imagine the grind to &#8220;Best Friend&#8221;. May have to just dump the ravager and wait for the expansion.</p>
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		<title>By: Seidouyumi</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-16865</link>
		<dc:creator>Seidouyumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Palla, I&#039;ve loved coming here because, well, we aren&#039;t foaming at the mouth the way they do over at the WoW forums.

I will repeat about the XP thing, looking at it, it looks like it would be the next level up from the run to 70 from 69.

Well, as for my pets, there is a reason I have five hunters- one for every single pet family I love.  I had to run out to Bloodmyst Isle as a Horde just to get my Ravager.  That was fun lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Palla, I&#8217;ve loved coming here because, well, we aren&#8217;t foaming at the mouth the way they do over at the WoW forums.</p>
<p>I will repeat about the XP thing, looking at it, it looks like it would be the next level up from the run to 70 from 69.</p>
<p>Well, as for my pets, there is a reason I have five hunters- one for every single pet family I love.  I had to run out to Bloodmyst Isle as a Horde just to get my Ravager.  That was fun lol.</p>
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		<title>By: hyena84</title>
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		<dc:creator>hyena84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually.i think iv seen stable masters that wont talk to non hunters in outlands.i cant remember where though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually.i think iv seen stable masters that wont talk to non hunters in outlands.i cant remember where though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamors</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-16858</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sei was right, Znodis, after reading that, I am foaming at the mouth.  They can increase bank slot numbers, essentially character storage on a larger level, but they can&#039;t give us one or two more stable slots?  Tch, whatever.

Thats about right, Sei.  The two year marker was when the balance was working fairly well.  But in trying to make warriors more viable, they went a bit far.  *shrugs*  Que sera, sera.  I am going to agree with Sei on this one.  Its just going to make us all angry the more we think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sei was right, Znodis, after reading that, I am foaming at the mouth.  They can increase bank slot numbers, essentially character storage on a larger level, but they can&#8217;t give us one or two more stable slots?  Tch, whatever.</p>
<p>Thats about right, Sei.  The two year marker was when the balance was working fairly well.  But in trying to make warriors more viable, they went a bit far.  *shrugs*  Que sera, sera.  I am going to agree with Sei on this one.  Its just going to make us all angry the more we think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Znodis</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/03/31/patch-24-level-70-xp-increase/comment-page-1/#comment-16852</link>
		<dc:creator>Znodis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blues on stable slots:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28326961&amp;pageNo=3&amp;sid=1#45
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28326961&amp;sid=1&amp;pageNo=3#54

Keep in mind this was a year and a half ago and the next patch was BC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blues on stable slots:<br />
<a href="http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28326961&#038;pageNo=3&#038;sid=1#45" rel="nofollow">http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28326961&#038;pageNo=3&#038;sid=1#45</a><br />
<a href="http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28326961&#038;sid=1&#038;pageNo=3#54" rel="nofollow">http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=28326961&#038;sid=1&#038;pageNo=3#54</a></p>
<p>Keep in mind this was a year and a half ago and the next patch was BC.</p>
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