Comments on: Patch 2.4: Hunter Aggro Issues

By: The Troll Hunter » Looks Like Some Our Pets Aggro Problems are Fixed, Well……

Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:27:28 +0000

[...] some not so very polite, about this aggro situation, and posts about this are overflowing over to Petopia’s board along with quite a few other noteworthy sites. But again, playing a hunter I can see the overall [...]

By: Vashra

Vashra — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:25:45 +0000

Here are my observations from my lvl 50 MM hunter Tirahna (Balegund):

CATS:
My cat (and ONLY my cat) seems to be acting differently. He takes more damage for no apparent reason (stats are the same as before the patch). He also doesn’t seem to growl as often left to his own devices. In fact, in 50 test fights, he chose to growl once early on (not always as the first thing upon engaging either) and then did not growl again – at all – unless he lost agro to me for a moment. For what it’s worth the cat I have is the white lion spawned in the Barrens – He’s lvl 49 now.

By contrast my snake (from WC, also level 49) seems to be doing fantastic. He holds agro better than he ever did and it takes me only a little bit of measuring my shots to keep from pulling agro off him.

My boar also was doing well enough though he did seem to be 50/50 about leading an engage with charge/growl or charge/gore.

With the single exceptions of the cat behavior and the cat seeming to take more damage this hasn’t really affected my gameplay. I always have my pets on “manual” unless I am farming grays because as an MM hunter I *need* to be able to force my pet to “hold back” a wee bit of focus for an ordered growl if I crit a few too many times in a row. Usually though “go for the throat” keeps the pet more than topped off to chain whatever he wants.

By: Solanum

Solanum — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:05:47 +0000

Both my cat and I are level 62, and we’re having issues. I’m a beastmaster spec.

I’ve noticed since the patch that my pet just wasn’t functioning right. I was yanking things off him at an alarming rate. I tried different bow and guns, getting away from burst damage and going for a smaller sustained amount but no matter what I do, within five hits the mob goes for me and ignore growls (intimidate will still peel something off me, though). My omen bars have gone insane.

He’s doing a touch less damage than he used to do, too, and taking way more. I thought for a while it was an outlands thing, but my friends who’ve had pets in outlands for a while say this is entirely new.

This isn’t a help, but I thought it might be useful to have someone else pop up to say that there are still big issues.

By: Axtrapp

Axtrapp — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:02:40 +0000

Looks like Hortus stated that the original behavior of Charge + Growl has been a bug and it has been “fixed”, so I don’t expect that boars will be fixed any time soon.

This is the link to the blue post:

http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-boar-charge-and-all-pet-aggro-broken-5591269594.html

By: Knurd

Knurd — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:57:39 +0000

Not to add to it, but just had a co-worker point something out to me. Both of my cats are from the old world, and neither of them are from outland. Sapphire is Shi Rotam and Shadow is Humar. I am going to go and tame an outland pet and see if that makes any difference. The problem may simply be age of pet and where they came from?

By: Knurd

Knurd — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:48:55 +0000

I told my tank before I did this, but while we were in raid over the weekend I left growl on. (Sapphire 70 Cat). What was interesting is sapphire can no longer hold my agro while solo, but she sure pulled agro right off the tank. I admit there is something going on, but what it is and if blizzard will fix it I am not sure. I do know however that it is not fun to solo with my hunter at this point, if I want to melee I will play my rogue or druid. We are seriously gimped by whatever is going on.

By: Hulan

Hulan — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:07:31 +0000

I’m seeing the issue too. Pre-patch, I’d send in my boar and, assuming charge and/or growl weren’t resisted, he’d 4.5K ahead of me in threat before I even fired a shot; I’ve been looking at it this afternoon and he’s generating about 1k threat. Now I know that Omen isn’t 100% reliable but the difference is very noticeable. I feigned death more times this afternoon than I have in the last month! I found an interesting post that suggests that a major part of the problem may be that pre-patch autocast growl was given priority over every other ability providing there was enough focus to cast it, this appears to have changed. It may be that different hunters are seeing different effects because they have different abilities on autocast?

Anyway, the post I read is at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5720272859&sid=1

By: Varsar

Varsar — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:12:41 +0000

bugger it was an idea. oh well guess I don’t need to test it later!

By: Seidouyumi

Seidouyumi — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:05:11 +0000

Cotytto,

Your anger still doesn’t help the situation. Insulting people like Hortus doesn’t help either. Nor does lashing out at the rest of us. I’ve posted a few times on the Bug and PTR forums and not been responded to by a blue. It does not mean that they are ignoring us. In fact, one of the bugs I reported was fixed even though I was the only person to post a thread about it. No blue ever responded to that bug.

I spent quite some time trying to duplicate this too. I posted several times here about what I found. Just chill out, ok. Stop screaming about them nerfing us, and about them trying to hurt the class. At least in this instance, this is not the case. Like it or hate it, this is a bug in the system and they really are working to fix it.

By: Mania

Mania — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:43:42 +0000

Varsar: Except the stat changes that I noticed heppened before Patch 2.4, not with it. If those changes had anything to do with this, I would have expected it to affect us in Patch 2.3.