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	<title>Comments on: Maja: Level 40 Tallstrider vs Hyena</title>
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		<title>By: Mania&#8217;s Arcania &#187; Kaet: Kill Command</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/01/14/maja-level-40-tallstrider-vs-hyena/comment-page-1/#comment-18933</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania&#8217;s Arcania &#187; Kaet: Kill Command</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] she&#8217;s done. I could choose another character with one or two associated pet families (like Maja with her tallstrider and hyena) to level all the way to 70. Or I could play around with, say, two [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] she&#8217;s done. I could choose another character with one or two associated pet families (like Maja with her tallstrider and hyena) to level all the way to 70. Or I could play around with, say, two [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woa reading this is realy cool i&#039;m in a pvp realm listing to the &quot;moltes&quot; make me wish i was on PVP/RP realm :D any ways i say stay with ur plain strider (much prettyer :D)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woa reading this is realy cool i&#8217;m in a pvp realm listing to the &#8220;moltes&#8221; make me wish i was on PVP/RP realm :D any ways i say stay with ur plain strider (much prettyer :D)</p>
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		<title>By: Fi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds about right to me. At these levels you don&#039;t have the biggest drain on training points. What I would be curious to see is at level 70 how this effects things, when you have top level(and thus more expensive) offensive skills taking up points, so that if you trained both you could only get level 9 or so, while if you trained just one could get them up to level 12(not sure the top level of NA and GS). 

And really all of this comes down to a tank type pet. As was posted before, if you have a high dps pet for raids and groups, you&#039;ll want to pump avoidance and resistances to stay away from the aoe spells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds about right to me. At these levels you don&#8217;t have the biggest drain on training points. What I would be curious to see is at level 70 how this effects things, when you have top level(and thus more expensive) offensive skills taking up points, so that if you trained both you could only get level 9 or so, while if you trained just one could get them up to level 12(not sure the top level of NA and GS). </p>
<p>And really all of this comes down to a tank type pet. As was posted before, if you have a high dps pet for raids and groups, you&#8217;ll want to pump avoidance and resistances to stay away from the aoe spells.</p>
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		<title>By: sandralover</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandralover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have had the clutchmother for a while on one of my alts and apart from the food fun ,it  is equal to most other pets i have tried , i tend to only train pet in the basic bite/growl/claw unless pet is getting damaged badly ,
 
when i was around level 63 i tried a caster pet , the nether ray apart from being a little weaker than other pets the same level did its job i did not die and neither did my pet except when we were farming the naga and getting mobbed by several at once , those dam guards i soon learned needed to be killed fast and as most hunters will have found out there are some boss type elites that would kill any pet in a few hits anyway , 

the real choice in pets is just on looks or if you are doing pvp then the choices in some pets like boars does make sense , 

the way the pet stats have been done means all pets can be made just about equal except for the damage they do , but as far as i can tell it makes so little difference the damage the pet does still works out the same as it just takes a little longer for some to help kill the mob , i think to many hunters look at the pet families stats and think wow that one has good health or armour or damage , the real truth is the pet holds aggro off the hunter and we do the real damage , for me until a hunter can get the dash talent at 30+ the boar is the fastest pet out there at low level and i like that speed as to watch a pet slowly run to the mob is soul destroying , but then again i have seen a 70 hunter with her ? pet on prowl and that did seem so surreal to me , a little like watching paint drying and just as exciting , i can understand it in pvp or in an instance or perhaps picking out just 1 mob from in a group but not in normal play</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have had the clutchmother for a while on one of my alts and apart from the food fun ,it  is equal to most other pets i have tried , i tend to only train pet in the basic bite/growl/claw unless pet is getting damaged badly ,</p>
<p>when i was around level 63 i tried a caster pet , the nether ray apart from being a little weaker than other pets the same level did its job i did not die and neither did my pet except when we were farming the naga and getting mobbed by several at once , those dam guards i soon learned needed to be killed fast and as most hunters will have found out there are some boss type elites that would kill any pet in a few hits anyway , </p>
<p>the real choice in pets is just on looks or if you are doing pvp then the choices in some pets like boars does make sense , </p>
<p>the way the pet stats have been done means all pets can be made just about equal except for the damage they do , but as far as i can tell it makes so little difference the damage the pet does still works out the same as it just takes a little longer for some to help kill the mob , i think to many hunters look at the pet families stats and think wow that one has good health or armour or damage , the real truth is the pet holds aggro off the hunter and we do the real damage , for me until a hunter can get the dash talent at 30+ the boar is the fastest pet out there at low level and i like that speed as to watch a pet slowly run to the mob is soul destroying , but then again i have seen a 70 hunter with her ? pet on prowl and that did seem so surreal to me , a little like watching paint drying and just as exciting , i can understand it in pvp or in an instance or perhaps picking out just 1 mob from in a group but not in normal play</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamorsdeus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palladiamorsdeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m probably going to get a lot of &quot;Your wrongs!&quot; on this, but caster pets aside, there isn&#039;t a huge variance in performence.  I am from a time when there WAS a huge difference in how each pet played, but now, they all just feel the same.  I don&#039;t even get any joy out of scorpid poison anymore, and I was using scorpids before most people knew they existed.  I love my pets, I do, but I am seriously wishing for an improvement to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably going to get a lot of &#8220;Your wrongs!&#8221; on this, but caster pets aside, there isn&#8217;t a huge variance in performence.  I am from a time when there WAS a huge difference in how each pet played, but now, they all just feel the same.  I don&#8217;t even get any joy out of scorpid poison anymore, and I was using scorpids before most people knew they existed.  I love my pets, I do, but I am seriously wishing for an improvement to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tzia / Yazmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tzia / Yazmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Molting to a lovely blue-green. Nice. Now if only you had given the hyena a bath... maybe that&#039;s where the levels went? I always enjoy reading this blog, even if I don&#039;t comment often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molting to a lovely blue-green. Nice. Now if only you had given the hyena a bath&#8230; maybe that&#8217;s where the levels went? I always enjoy reading this blog, even if I don&#8217;t comment often.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use Serpent Sting but rather Scorpid (completely forgot about the +RAP scaling that Serpent sting has now!). Maybe I&#039;ll try back again soon.
As for NA or GS, I find them TOO expensive, TP-wise. You can&#039;t even max both at 70! I usually go with Avoidance, Dash/Dive/Charge, Prowl, Claw/Gore, Cobra Reflexes and the rest I split between the resistances, usually leaving NR behind as I can always turn AotW on...

This usually gives my pets a lot more &quot;resistance&quot; (pun intended!) to a broad range of magic schools. This not only stops some of the caster damage, it also has the advantage that some effects such as sheep, sleep, fear, frost nova and other ways of CC have a very good chance of being resisted thus preventing the pet from being useless until a proper Mend Pet kicks in and &quot;heals&quot; the effect over. It also allows to farm dragons and other mobs a LOT better! Every time I think about the experience with Someone farming some orange elite dragons and a nearby hunter trying to do the same and failing miserably! There&#039;s no money that can pay that! :)

I too have used the 2.3.2 faster pet level speed! In just 2 night&#039;s play (under 2 hours each), I managed to bring my 53 cat to 60! For a while, I thought of replacing (read: help Gato through his first molt!) for a Wintersaber the same color of the Wintersaber mount, but, even with the extended XP, that&#039;s still 160+ turnins to get to Exalted so I&#039;ll leave that to when I&#039;m REALLY bored! I&#039;ll probably try some early TBC instance (aka: Hellfire Ramparts!) when both me and cat get to 63 and see how it goes!

BTW: I leveled around 1/2 level or less while grinding my cat from 53 to 60! So that&#039;s 7 levels for Gato and 0.5 for me! Not bad. Means that most likely one can be with a same level pet in the early 10% or less after dinging, instead of having the pet ding half-way through!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use Serpent Sting but rather Scorpid (completely forgot about the +RAP scaling that Serpent sting has now!). Maybe I&#8217;ll try back again soon.<br />
As for NA or GS, I find them TOO expensive, TP-wise. You can&#8217;t even max both at 70! I usually go with Avoidance, Dash/Dive/Charge, Prowl, Claw/Gore, Cobra Reflexes and the rest I split between the resistances, usually leaving NR behind as I can always turn AotW on&#8230;</p>
<p>This usually gives my pets a lot more &#8220;resistance&#8221; (pun intended!) to a broad range of magic schools. This not only stops some of the caster damage, it also has the advantage that some effects such as sheep, sleep, fear, frost nova and other ways of CC have a very good chance of being resisted thus preventing the pet from being useless until a proper Mend Pet kicks in and &#8220;heals&#8221; the effect over. It also allows to farm dragons and other mobs a LOT better! Every time I think about the experience with Someone farming some orange elite dragons and a nearby hunter trying to do the same and failing miserably! There&#8217;s no money that can pay that! :)</p>
<p>I too have used the 2.3.2 faster pet level speed! In just 2 night&#8217;s play (under 2 hours each), I managed to bring my 53 cat to 60! For a while, I thought of replacing (read: help Gato through his first molt!) for a Wintersaber the same color of the Wintersaber mount, but, even with the extended XP, that&#8217;s still 160+ turnins to get to Exalted so I&#8217;ll leave that to when I&#8217;m REALLY bored! I&#8217;ll probably try some early TBC instance (aka: Hellfire Ramparts!) when both me and cat get to 63 and see how it goes!</p>
<p>BTW: I leveled around 1/2 level or less while grinding my cat from 53 to 60! So that&#8217;s 7 levels for Gato and 0.5 for me! Not bad. Means that most likely one can be with a same level pet in the early 10% or less after dinging, instead of having the pet ding half-way through!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how a snake would compare. I will have to figure that out. UNurtunetly, my little RP hunter is only a 27 and is NOT chugging along. I play him once or twice every 3 days, always bored out of my mind. Gad I need to look for new pets. Why am I bothering you with this? sorry. I hope Maja gets her scelly horse soon!
btw, love your pets names!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how a snake would compare. I will have to figure that out. UNurtunetly, my little RP hunter is only a 27 and is NOT chugging along. I play him once or twice every 3 days, always bored out of my mind. Gad I need to look for new pets. Why am I bothering you with this? sorry. I hope Maja gets her scelly horse soon!<br />
btw, love your pets names!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronorin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm. Interesting. Good article and I look foward to seeing how it turns out. Leveling a Hunter, I always found pet skill allocation the toughest. No one really addresses how to properly build a pet and why, so I&#039;m glad you&#039;re getting into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. Interesting. Good article and I look foward to seeing how it turns out. Leveling a Hunter, I always found pet skill allocation the toughest. No one really addresses how to properly build a pet and why, so I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re getting into it.</p>
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