Comments on: Dead Zone and Windserpents http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/ Flotsam from too many sites Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:22:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Polashuzz http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-17821 Polashuzz Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:04:56 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-17821 My wind serpent seems to stop and use lightning breath when chasing flag carriers in warsong gulch. He ends up falling behind the runner because of this. other than that he is an awesome pet. My wind serpent seems to stop and use lightning breath when chasing flag carriers in warsong gulch. He ends up falling behind the runner because of this.
other than that he is an awesome pet.

]]> By: Polashuzz http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-17820 Polashuzz Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:01:56 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-17820 I use lightning breath to pull enemies so my pet gets the initial aggro. He flies in range spits his lightning bolt and returns to me with the mob. I use lightning breath to pull enemies so my pet gets the initial aggro. He flies in range spits his lightning bolt and returns to me with the mob.

]]> By: Ansawa http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-5476 Ansawa Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:54:02 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-5476 Noba, that's intended behavior, and they only do it against a stunned mob--go out to their full range, then cast LB, then fly back. One fix for this is to ask your tank not to stun the mob if they can avoid it (yeah right ;), the other one is to hotkey a toggle for lightning breath so you can turn it off if you see the mob get stunned, and another is to keep a very close eye on what your wingsnake is doing and call them back if you think they'll run into a pack of mobs. I'm going to test this a little to see if the direction they go in is really "random" or is predictable based on the wind serpent's initial positioning. My theory is that they'll go straight back (i.e., do a 180-degree turn and fly away) from where they are. If that's the case, the simplest fix for group situations (since they'll now go behind a mob they're not holding aggro on) would be just to make sure the mob's back is to enough open space that your snake can move to range without pulling adds. Talk to your tank about it. Also, can anyone who runs with another ranged pet--Serpent or Dragonhawk--confirm on whether or not they do this, too, or is it strictly a wind serpent behavior? Noba, that’s intended behavior, and they only do it against a stunned mob–go out to their full range, then cast LB, then fly back. One fix for this is to ask your tank not to stun the mob if they can avoid it (yeah right ;), the other one is to hotkey a toggle for lightning breath so you can turn it off if you see the mob get stunned, and another is to keep a very close eye on what your wingsnake is doing and call them back if you think they’ll run into a pack of mobs.

I’m going to test this a little to see if the direction they go in is really “random” or is predictable based on the wind serpent’s initial positioning. My theory is that they’ll go straight back (i.e., do a 180-degree turn and fly away) from where they are. If that’s the case, the simplest fix for group situations (since they’ll now go behind a mob they’re not holding aggro on) would be just to make sure the mob’s back is to enough open space that your snake can move to range without pulling adds. Talk to your tank about it.

Also, can anyone who runs with another ranged pet–Serpent or Dragonhawk–confirm on whether or not they do this, too, or is it strictly a wind serpent behavior?

]]> By: Noba http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-5168 Noba Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:00:56 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-5168 I had to say goodbye to my windserpent. :( They seem to have a strange behavior, where in battle they will fly a few yards away from a mob, in a random direction, to shoot the lightning at said mob. Mine was doing this in instance and aggroing other nearby mobs. I wasnt sure if this was a bug or intended behavior. Im guessing bug, because the tooltip makes it sound like they are -able- to cast lightning at melee range and dont HAVE to be at a distance. I had to say goodbye to my windserpent. :( They seem to have a strange behavior, where in battle they will fly a few yards away from a mob, in a random direction, to shoot the lightning at said mob. Mine was doing this in instance and aggroing other nearby mobs. I wasnt sure if this was a bug or intended behavior. Im guessing bug, because the tooltip makes it sound like they are -able- to cast lightning at melee range and dont HAVE to be at a distance.

]]> By: Bethany http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-4575 Bethany Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:19:23 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-4575 I saw a hunter post on wow's forums with a handy windserpent macro /cast [nocombat] dive /cast [nocombat] growl /petattack [combat] This makes my Tesla fly up to the mob and growl at them before she starts zapping them. Quite handy :-) Bethany I saw a hunter post on wow’s forums with a handy windserpent macro

/cast [nocombat] dive
/cast [nocombat] growl
/petattack [combat]

This makes my Tesla fly up to the mob and growl at them before she starts zapping them. Quite handy :-)
Bethany

]]> By: Kristy http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-4228 Kristy Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:19:10 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-4228 Really? It ignores Armor eh? Nice! Sweet! lol Really? It ignores Armor eh? Nice! Sweet! lol

]]> By: Znodis http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-4225 Znodis Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:22:34 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-4225 A warning about Lighting Breath I just learned about: Shaman's Stormstrike gives +20% to the next to sources of nature damage to the target ( http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=17364 ) and Lightning Breath will use those charges. So if you're raiding with an elemental shaman or a balance druid, consider bringing a different pet. A warning about Lighting Breath I just learned about:

Shaman’s Stormstrike gives +20% to the next to sources of nature damage to the target ( http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=17364 ) and Lightning Breath will use those charges. So if you’re raiding with an elemental shaman or a balance druid, consider bringing a different pet.

]]> By: Ansawa http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-4222 Ansawa Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:43:41 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-4222 One thing I've also discovered about wind serpents is that they won't drop Intimidation immediately. They do it "when they get around to it," as a friend of mine said; they can't use it on Lightning Breath, so you need to anticipate a little more when you need to use it. Otherwise I love, love, love wind serpents. No armor mitigation on their focus dump = more DPS than a cat. 8) One thing I’ve also discovered about wind serpents is that they won’t drop Intimidation immediately. They do it “when they get around to it,” as a friend of mine said; they can’t use it on Lightning Breath, so you need to anticipate a little more when you need to use it.

Otherwise I love, love, love wind serpents. No armor mitigation on their focus dump = more DPS than a cat. 8)

]]> By: slayerboy http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-4221 slayerboy Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:59:29 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-4221 I myself will always keep myself at the max distance I can from the mob and my pet dueling it out. If I should out-aggro my pet and by a feat of amazing strength draw the mob off my Ripper (three-color changing ravager from blade's edge), then I have enough time to do something about it. I noticed how close I can get, and that's kinda scarry to me since I am NOT a melee hunter lol. Better safe than sorry. Haven't tried PVP yet, but I have a feeling i'm gonna like it with a smaller dead zone. I myself will always keep myself at the max distance I can from the mob and my pet dueling it out. If I should out-aggro my pet and by a feat of amazing strength draw the mob off my Ripper (three-color changing ravager from blade’s edge), then I have enough time to do something about it. I noticed how close I can get, and that’s kinda scarry to me since I am NOT a melee hunter lol. Better safe than sorry.

Haven’t tried PVP yet, but I have a feeling i’m gonna like it with a smaller dead zone.

]]> By: Regolith http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/comment-page-1/#comment-4215 Regolith Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:04:50 +0000 http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/11/21/dead-zone-and-windserpents/#comment-4215 Another thing new windserpent hunters have to adjust to is the fact that Growl isn't the first spell they use. It took me quite a while to figure out why I was pulling aggro like crazy. Have patience, young hunters, trust in your windserpent. :) Also, because the lightning breath talent is nature damage, it ignores armor. Just a little hint for those pvp hunters who like to see the surprise on warrior and paladin faces! Another thing new windserpent hunters have to adjust to is the fact that Growl isn’t the first spell they use. It took me quite a while to figure out why I was pulling aggro like crazy. Have patience, young hunters, trust in your windserpent. :)

Also, because the lightning breath talent is nature damage, it ignores armor. Just a little hint for those pvp hunters who like to see the surprise on warrior and paladin faces!

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