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	<title>Comments on: PTR 2.3.0: No More Dead Zone!</title>
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		<title>By: Mania&#8217;s Arcania: It&#8217;s all about the (WoW hunter) pets! &#187; PTR 2.3.0: No Melee Range Change, Says Hortus</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2344</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania&#8217;s Arcania: It&#8217;s all about the (WoW hunter) pets! &#187; PTR 2.3.0: No Melee Range Change, Says Hortus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ranged combat distance changed recently on the 2.3 Public Test Realm, reducing the dead zone in which we cannot attack with either melee or ranged attacks. About the same time there were many [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ranged combat distance changed recently on the 2.3 Public Test Realm, reducing the dead zone in which we cannot attack with either melee or ranged attacks. About the same time there were many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tiiaa</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2294</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiiaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In pvp you won&#039;t see anyone debuffing at all - I can&#039;t even remember the last time I had 3.5 seconds time for one single shot that even resets autoshot timer afterwards.

On another note, there&#039;s a new engineering recipe - Adamantite Arrow Maker/Adamantite Shell Machine - 5 charges of 200 arrows/bullets with 43 dps (but can explode when used -.-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In pvp you won&#8217;t see anyone debuffing at all &#8211; I can&#8217;t even remember the last time I had 3.5 seconds time for one single shot that even resets autoshot timer afterwards.</p>
<p>On another note, there&#8217;s a new engineering recipe &#8211; Adamantite Arrow Maker/Adamantite Shell Machine &#8211; 5 charges of 200 arrows/bullets with 43 dps (but can explode when used -.-)</p>
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		<title>By: Galwar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>Galwar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hunters are being buffed way too much imo. Both mortal shot and arcane shot debuff should be deep MM builds and deadzone should be changed via survival talents.

Instead we&#039;ll be seeing mortal shot hunters debuffing with their BM build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hunters are being buffed way too much imo. Both mortal shot and arcane shot debuff should be deep MM builds and deadzone should be changed via survival talents.</p>
<p>Instead we&#8217;ll be seeing mortal shot hunters debuffing with their BM build.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiiaa</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2240</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiiaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was just saying that until now Throws and Shoots were not interruptable, regardless of being free or costing mana. You were not able to &quot;silence&quot; the pulling of the bow string/triggering the gun mechanism/throwing motion for knives. I was kind of &quot;thinking aloud&quot; - and I definately didn&#039;t want to say he is wrong or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was just saying that until now Throws and Shoots were not interruptable, regardless of being free or costing mana. You were not able to &#8220;silence&#8221; the pulling of the bow string/triggering the gun mechanism/throwing motion for knives. I was kind of &#8220;thinking aloud&#8221; &#8211; and I definately didn&#8217;t want to say he is wrong or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2195</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiia: by &quot;ANY shots&quot;, Palla* really means &quot;any shots requiring mana&quot;, and he explicitly says that towards the end of his text...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiia: by &#8220;ANY shots&#8221;, Palla* really means &#8220;any shots requiring mana&#8221;, and he explicitly says that towards the end of his text&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tiiaa</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiiaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Melee abilities would be needing mana too ;) but I&#039;ll check that too. Would be hard with being unable to use special shots, you can&#039;t silence knife throws - so that would be weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Melee abilities would be needing mana too ;) but I&#8217;ll check that too. Would be hard with being unable to use special shots, you can&#8217;t silence knife throws &#8211; so that would be weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Palladiamorsdeus</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2189</link>
		<dc:creator>Palladiamorsdeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can vouch for this one, you can&#039;t do ANY shots while silenced now.  I think the mechanics changed so that anything that takes mana, can&#039;t be done while silenced.  There will be exceptions to the rule, mind you, but I couldn&#039;t do anything other then autoshot, and maybe my melee abilities.  Honestly, I was to busy trying to stay away from the mage in the arena to find out if I could or not. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can vouch for this one, you can&#8217;t do ANY shots while silenced now.  I think the mechanics changed so that anything that takes mana, can&#8217;t be done while silenced.  There will be exceptions to the rule, mind you, but I couldn&#8217;t do anything other then autoshot, and maybe my melee abilities.  Honestly, I was to busy trying to stay away from the mage in the arena to find out if I could or not. =D</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm .. I can probably see the Tauren minimum range with a level 1 Tauren hunter. I&#039;ll have to check that out today. 

Thanks for all the additional info, guys! Keep it coming. *grin*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm .. I can probably see the Tauren minimum range with a level 1 Tauren hunter. I&#8217;ll have to check that out today. </p>
<p>Thanks for all the additional info, guys! Keep it coming. *grin*</p>
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		<title>By: Tiiaa</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiiaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, a guildmate of mine being Tauren Hunter relayed this to me, he said he tried on the PTR an he did not have a compensated minimumrange. Since I don&#039;t have on, I can&#039;t verify myself.


Silver, what do you mean by silnce/Spell lock working on us? I can only remember 2 things I can&#039;t do while silnced: Traps and Mend Pet - no big deal for me since the traps are probably on still cooldown when I&#039;d need another one anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, a guildmate of mine being Tauren Hunter relayed this to me, he said he tried on the PTR an he did not have a compensated minimumrange. Since I don&#8217;t have on, I can&#8217;t verify myself.</p>
<p>Silver, what do you mean by silnce/Spell lock working on us? I can only remember 2 things I can&#8217;t do while silnced: Traps and Mend Pet &#8211; no big deal for me since the traps are probably on still cooldown when I&#8217;d need another one anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: Sieg</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/20/ptr-230-no-more-dead-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator>Sieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;…for everyone except Tauren who still have a 5y Meleerange and therefore no deadzone as a Hunter while all other races have a 1 yard deadzone.&quot;

That&#039;s not true at all. They just compensate for the extra reach and Tauren&#039;s still get 1 yard DZ... i should know, seeing as i checked on my main on ptr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;…for everyone except Tauren who still have a 5y Meleerange and therefore no deadzone as a Hunter while all other races have a 1 yard deadzone.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true at all. They just compensate for the extra reach and Tauren&#8217;s still get 1 yard DZ&#8230; i should know, seeing as i checked on my main on ptr.</p>
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