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	<title>Comments on: PTR 2.3.0: Pet Circling</title>
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	<description>Hunter pets in the World of Warcraft.</description>
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		<title>By: Kallixenia</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-6004</link>
		<dc:creator>Kallixenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third to what Rezar &#38; Stubs have said. Everytime in KZ now, I get to watch my cat go zooming off behind the raid, and listen to everyone flipping out on vent. Enough is enough, Blizz, fix this please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third to what Rezar &amp; Stubs have said. Everytime in KZ now, I get to watch my cat go zooming off behind the raid, and listen to everyone flipping out on vent. Enough is enough, Blizz, fix this please.</p>
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		<title>By: Stubs</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-4740</link>
		<dc:creator>Stubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Rezar said.  This change has made my pet weird in Kara.  Espcially on the mobs on the narrow hallways.  I send the pet in to attack the mob, only to see him fly off behind me, to god knows where.  I call him back, for fear he may go aggro a ton of mobs somewhere, and just stop using him for the fight.  Great job Blizzard, now fix it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Rezar said.  This change has made my pet weird in Kara.  Espcially on the mobs on the narrow hallways.  I send the pet in to attack the mob, only to see him fly off behind me, to god knows where.  I call him back, for fear he may go aggro a ton of mobs somewhere, and just stop using him for the fight.  Great job Blizzard, now fix it already.</p>
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		<title>By: Rezar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-3601</link>
		<dc:creator>Rezar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I myself am greatly distressed by this. The patch has been out for a few days so I've been getting plenty of chance to see all the possible problems with this, especially in raiding situations. The main problem with this change is this: pets do not always know the best way to get behind a mob. My darling cat embarassed me several times in Kara this week by running back teh way we had come in what seemed to be an effort to take the long way around to get to the mob. For example: on the pulls on the stairway leading to Moroes my cat would try and run through the servant's quarters, ultimately aggroing the mobs in there and dying twice before I gave up and didn't use her for those pulls anymore. Warlocks seem to be having similar issue with some of their pets (I know I saw a fel puppy run off behind us once or twice).

Yes, when it does work correctly it's a nice little thing to have going, but untill Blizz gets all the horrible pathing issue sorted out I'm going to be very annoyed with them for this. Presumably it has something to do with the way the pet's NPC brain processes the terrain and where it thinks it can go or not go and from what I've seen of Blizz's problem-fixing track record it ain't getting fixed anytime this side of New Years. -.-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I myself am greatly distressed by this. The patch has been out for a few days so I&#8217;ve been getting plenty of chance to see all the possible problems with this, especially in raiding situations. The main problem with this change is this: pets do not always know the best way to get behind a mob. My darling cat embarassed me several times in Kara this week by running back teh way we had come in what seemed to be an effort to take the long way around to get to the mob. For example: on the pulls on the stairway leading to Moroes my cat would try and run through the servant&#8217;s quarters, ultimately aggroing the mobs in there and dying twice before I gave up and didn&#8217;t use her for those pulls anymore. Warlocks seem to be having similar issue with some of their pets (I know I saw a fel puppy run off behind us once or twice).</p>
<p>Yes, when it does work correctly it&#8217;s a nice little thing to have going, but untill Blizz gets all the horrible pathing issue sorted out I&#8217;m going to be very annoyed with them for this. Presumably it has something to do with the way the pet&#8217;s NPC brain processes the terrain and where it thinks it can go or not go and from what I&#8217;ve seen of Blizz&#8217;s problem-fixing track record it ain&#8217;t getting fixed anytime this side of New Years. -.-</p>
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		<title>By: BlackHat</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2966</link>
		<dc:creator>BlackHat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this change were made because of a hunter know bug wich rarely happen. Wehn the pet get aggro the mob keep running to the hunter until the original pet location before it was sent. I think thats if the pet try to get the target by behind will prevent thats bug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this change were made because of a hunter know bug wich rarely happen. Wehn the pet get aggro the mob keep running to the hunter until the original pet location before it was sent. I think thats if the pet try to get the target by behind will prevent thats bug.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendra</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2912</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It kinda helps with cleaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It kinda helps with cleaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Xdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2910</link>
		<dc:creator>Xdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if you ever noticed, but pets that can use Warp, when they come within distance of their target, blink and end up immediately behind the target, of course if they have the aggro, the target turns and is directed towards the pet. If they do not have aggro, they continue to attack the target from behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you ever noticed, but pets that can use Warp, when they come within distance of their target, blink and end up immediately behind the target, of course if they have the aggro, the target turns and is directed towards the pet. If they do not have aggro, they continue to attack the target from behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Listen</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2714</link>
		<dc:creator>Listen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like this would be better used under certain circumstances so it should be offered by a pet trainer and activated as "Attack From Behind" so the hunter can choose when he wants his pet to use this new ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like this would be better used under certain circumstances so it should be offered by a pet trainer and activated as &#8220;Attack From Behind&#8221; so the hunter can choose when he wants his pet to use this new ability.</p>
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		<title>By: Zierlyn</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2441</link>
		<dc:creator>Zierlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pet positioning was never difficult on bosses. Just one quick Eyes of the Beast, jump behind the mob, and Arcane shot to break the channeling. You only lose 2-3 shots and your pet is in the back safe from cleaves. Overall it'll be a good change I suppose, but it will completely destroy a pet's usefulness on a fight like Aran where the mob is constantly switching targets. It'll spend the entire fight repositioning itself and never landing a hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pet positioning was never difficult on bosses. Just one quick Eyes of the Beast, jump behind the mob, and Arcane shot to break the channeling. You only lose 2-3 shots and your pet is in the back safe from cleaves. Overall it&#8217;ll be a good change I suppose, but it will completely destroy a pet&#8217;s usefulness on a fight like Aran where the mob is constantly switching targets. It&#8217;ll spend the entire fight repositioning itself and never landing a hit.</p>
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		<title>By: News from The Instance &#124; BIRKANA</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>News from The Instance &#124; BIRKANA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From Mania&#8217;s Arcade I have news of new Hunter pets coming. You can read the full list of pets here. There&#8217;s also some info on interesting new pet behavior coming, they&#8217;ll be trying to stay behind your target. Read that post here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From Mania&#8217;s Arcade I have news of new Hunter pets coming. You can read the full list of pets here. There&#8217;s also some info on interesting new pet behavior coming, they&#8217;ll be trying to stay behind your target. Read that post here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gaujo</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/16/ptr-230-pet-circling/#comment-2252</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaujo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so cone effects don't kill pets, like what the dragons in Blades Edge, Core Hounds in MC etc do.  Know how warriors are supposed to turn these types of mobs away from the raid?  This will do the same for pets, allowing them to escape those types of AOE.  This is all just what makes sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so cone effects don&#8217;t kill pets, like what the dragons in Blades Edge, Core Hounds in MC etc do.  Know how warriors are supposed to turn these types of mobs away from the raid?  This will do the same for pets, allowing them to escape those types of AOE.  This is all just what makes sense to me.</p>
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