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		<title>By: sandralover</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-2575</link>
		<dc:creator>sandralover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am not so sure the way they have made everything so easy will suit everyone , for example in the n.e. area there was oakenscowl by the lake , those that came up against him will remember how hard it was to grind his health down but not impossible to solo with care and now he is just a normal level 9 mob , to me that is a shame as i enjoy a little struggle now and then 

there are a few mobs in different areas i would love to see non elite though like that flying elite in swamp of sorrows ,, was ganked a few times by that beast
or in un&#039;goro  darn elite there that killed me a few times

my favourite hated elite of course is the fel reaver in hellfire , i have lost count of how many times i have been fighting a mob and it stamped on me
i do very little group quests or i do them solo at a higher level as i find so many players worse than i am and getting killed all the time is not fun to me but i do like a challenge while i am questing , but from what i have seen at low level some of the fun has been taken away

as for pets i agree we need a few more different ones or at least some casters made non casters ? , or some untameable mobs being made tameable ? but more than anything i want just 1 more stable slot and at high level at least a faster pet levelling or at least the pet being able to use the higher growl so its not all melee while they catch up with us and anyway the truth is in the high level group instances it makes little real difference what pet we use , they get hit by several mobs =they die fast even the turtle dies from what i have seen 

but the real truth is any new pet will be tamed by many as i guess we all like to be a little different , the exceptions will always be the ones deep in instances , but most of those have the same skins as their less elite kin , so to me not even worth going for . i have had several of the rare spawned pets like the white gorilla froom un&#039;goro tried him and found him annoying with all the scratching he did , and i still have my ghost saber but i have even seen a group of horde hunters all with ghost sabers , so any different pets will soon become common with hunters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am not so sure the way they have made everything so easy will suit everyone , for example in the n.e. area there was oakenscowl by the lake , those that came up against him will remember how hard it was to grind his health down but not impossible to solo with care and now he is just a normal level 9 mob , to me that is a shame as i enjoy a little struggle now and then </p>
<p>there are a few mobs in different areas i would love to see non elite though like that flying elite in swamp of sorrows ,, was ganked a few times by that beast<br />
or in un&#8217;goro  darn elite there that killed me a few times</p>
<p>my favourite hated elite of course is the fel reaver in hellfire , i have lost count of how many times i have been fighting a mob and it stamped on me<br />
i do very little group quests or i do them solo at a higher level as i find so many players worse than i am and getting killed all the time is not fun to me but i do like a challenge while i am questing , but from what i have seen at low level some of the fun has been taken away</p>
<p>as for pets i agree we need a few more different ones or at least some casters made non casters ? , or some untameable mobs being made tameable ? but more than anything i want just 1 more stable slot and at high level at least a faster pet levelling or at least the pet being able to use the higher growl so its not all melee while they catch up with us and anyway the truth is in the high level group instances it makes little real difference what pet we use , they get hit by several mobs =they die fast even the turtle dies from what i have seen </p>
<p>but the real truth is any new pet will be tamed by many as i guess we all like to be a little different , the exceptions will always be the ones deep in instances , but most of those have the same skins as their less elite kin , so to me not even worth going for . i have had several of the rare spawned pets like the white gorilla froom un&#8217;goro tried him and found him annoying with all the scratching he did , and i still have my ghost saber but i have even seen a group of horde hunters all with ghost sabers , so any different pets will soon become common with hunters</p>
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		<title>By: Bargmar</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-2300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bargmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little annoyed that we can tame some things but not others. Owls but not eagles, spiders but not sandworms, scorpids but not wasps, raptors but not pteradons.

I&#039;m not asking to beable to tame Wendigos or Devilsaurs...that&#039;s absolutely retarded. I can understand why those things aren&#039;t able to be tamed (too big or too smart). But when you have one creature so similar in size and species to another and yet unable to be tamed without any real reason....that&#039;s just ignorant.

Clearly they aren&#039;t afraid to allow a pet to be tamed if it has no special abilities...hello crab, crocolisk, and hyena. So that can&#039;t possibly be a reason.

They FINALLY gave us back that cobra model from ZF in Shadowmoon Valley - thus eliminating my question &quot;Why can we only tame -flying- snakes but not regular ones?&quot;

WTB more pets. I&#039;m sure Blizzard doesn&#039;t like us all having a cat or a ravager. Wanting to add &quot;pet diversity&quot; was the reason they normalized all the damage of pets in the first place wasn&#039;t it? It seems that&#039;s not the case afterall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little annoyed that we can tame some things but not others. Owls but not eagles, spiders but not sandworms, scorpids but not wasps, raptors but not pteradons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking to beable to tame Wendigos or Devilsaurs&#8230;that&#8217;s absolutely retarded. I can understand why those things aren&#8217;t able to be tamed (too big or too smart). But when you have one creature so similar in size and species to another and yet unable to be tamed without any real reason&#8230;.that&#8217;s just ignorant.</p>
<p>Clearly they aren&#8217;t afraid to allow a pet to be tamed if it has no special abilities&#8230;hello crab, crocolisk, and hyena. So that can&#8217;t possibly be a reason.</p>
<p>They FINALLY gave us back that cobra model from ZF in Shadowmoon Valley &#8211; thus eliminating my question &#8220;Why can we only tame -flying- snakes but not regular ones?&#8221;</p>
<p>WTB more pets. I&#8217;m sure Blizzard doesn&#8217;t like us all having a cat or a ravager. Wanting to add &#8220;pet diversity&#8221; was the reason they normalized all the damage of pets in the first place wasn&#8217;t it? It seems that&#8217;s not the case afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1905</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry: I haven&#039;t seen anything yet, but they might patch something in -- I expect this patch to be on the Public Test Realms for some time yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry: I haven&#8217;t seen anything yet, but they might patch something in &#8212; I expect this patch to be on the Public Test Realms for some time yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1830</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there going to be any changes soon to the pet types?? Some of the pets are still under used because they only have one type of attack and not even a special (exmpl. windserpent- light&#039; breath). There are some nice looking pets out there that just dont get used for this reason, like thise for exmpl. Spiders, hyenas, and raptors just got dash for gods sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there going to be any changes soon to the pet types?? Some of the pets are still under used because they only have one type of attack and not even a special (exmpl. windserpent- light&#8217; breath). There are some nice looking pets out there that just dont get used for this reason, like thise for exmpl. Spiders, hyenas, and raptors just got dash for gods sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Messyah</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Messyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that when I went there with my Druid, who was balance spec at the time, I was 1 level lower than the elites there and they not only resisted my magic, they whooped my a$$.

Someone - If you are a hunter and you can beat elites on your own, I&#039;d expect it. Try it with a priest, druid, warrior or shaman and let me know how you do.  Hunters often forget that they have a built-in tank with their pets.  - When I duel my 70 MM Hunter friend with my 70 Feral Druid, I beat him every time he does not have his pet out, and he gets me almost every time when he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that when I went there with my Druid, who was balance spec at the time, I was 1 level lower than the elites there and they not only resisted my magic, they whooped my a$$.</p>
<p>Someone &#8211; If you are a hunter and you can beat elites on your own, I&#8217;d expect it. Try it with a priest, druid, warrior or shaman and let me know how you do.  Hunters often forget that they have a built-in tank with their pets.  &#8211; When I duel my 70 MM Hunter friend with my 70 Feral Druid, I beat him every time he does not have his pet out, and he gets me almost every time when he does.</p>
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		<title>By: Orthor</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1715</link>
		<dc:creator>Orthor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I was actually thinking about this issue on my way to campus today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I was actually thinking about this issue on my way to campus today.</p>
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		<title>By: Mania</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>Mania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone: *You* can take down elites your own level solo to your heart&#039;s content. And anyone else who wants to try it out can learn to do it too, I&#039;m sure. But I&#039;m still happiest most of the time puttering around plinking things in a lackadaisical fashion. *grin*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone: *You* can take down elites your own level solo to your heart&#8217;s content. And anyone else who wants to try it out can learn to do it too, I&#8217;m sure. But I&#8217;m still happiest most of the time puttering around plinking things in a lackadaisical fashion. *grin*</p>
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		<title>By: Corwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1692</link>
		<dc:creator>Corwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As written i would seem to make leveling multiple pets even harder.  sigh.

Couldn&#039;t they just make an aspect or something to give all your earned experience to your pet?

Thank You Kindly,

Corwyn
for Kafsha and Shaelee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As written i would seem to make leveling multiple pets even harder.  sigh.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t they just make an aspect or something to give all your earned experience to your pet?</p>
<p>Thank You Kindly,</p>
<p>Corwyn<br />
for Kafsha and Shaelee</p>
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		<title>By: Jayhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1687</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As part of a (non-hunter) duo, I say: It was hard enough to duo while they were Elites, so I&#039;m not that unhappy about Stormgarde. ;)

For my solo-toons, I guess it will open up a lot more content. 

Now all they need to do is make the dungeons solo-able ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As part of a (non-hunter) duo, I say: It was hard enough to duo while they were Elites, so I&#8217;m not that unhappy about Stormgarde. ;)</p>
<p>For my solo-toons, I guess it will open up a lot more content. </p>
<p>Now all they need to do is make the dungeons solo-able ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/08/details-on-leveling-improvements/comment-page-1/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I do know some duo-ers whom I imagine won’t be completely satisfied with this&quot; ????

Uh? Aren&#039;t we talking about hunters?? We, hunters, CAN do elites our own level easy! Heck, my 61 hunter with a 60 boar almost managed to take down the 63 elites in HP (those that keep splitting into more mobs!), and, in fact, I believe I COULD do them with a bit more effort! I noted that the shardlings or such won&#039;t aggro you if the big guy is already away enough, so it would be a simple kitting job to take the big one down! But I don&#039;t like kitting, so I&#039;ll rather wait until both me and pet are 63 and try them again in the &quot;normal&quot; way! Now I went to Zangarmash to get the spear! (Was almost forgetting about that when someone on my FL asked me why I wasn&#039;t in Zangarmash yet!)

But it would be nice to have pets level MUCH sooner: between rested bonus and the overall big XP from outland quests, I was almost 62 when pet dinged 61! Like 15%~20% away or such! Usually I&#039;m 30~50% into a level when pet dings depending on how many quests I deliver...

Being an herbalist, after doing the rep grind quest for the spear, I&#039;ll go farm some of those beasts that herbalists can &quot;skin&quot; and level the boar while getting XP, loot and extra herbs! :)

BTW: And a BIG TY for keeping us updated on those changes! I would never found them if not from reading your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I do know some duo-ers whom I imagine won’t be completely satisfied with this&#8221; ????</p>
<p>Uh? Aren&#8217;t we talking about hunters?? We, hunters, CAN do elites our own level easy! Heck, my 61 hunter with a 60 boar almost managed to take down the 63 elites in HP (those that keep splitting into more mobs!), and, in fact, I believe I COULD do them with a bit more effort! I noted that the shardlings or such won&#8217;t aggro you if the big guy is already away enough, so it would be a simple kitting job to take the big one down! But I don&#8217;t like kitting, so I&#8217;ll rather wait until both me and pet are 63 and try them again in the &#8220;normal&#8221; way! Now I went to Zangarmash to get the spear! (Was almost forgetting about that when someone on my FL asked me why I wasn&#8217;t in Zangarmash yet!)</p>
<p>But it would be nice to have pets level MUCH sooner: between rested bonus and the overall big XP from outland quests, I was almost 62 when pet dinged 61! Like 15%~20% away or such! Usually I&#8217;m 30~50% into a level when pet dings depending on how many quests I deliver&#8230;</p>
<p>Being an herbalist, after doing the rep grind quest for the spear, I&#8217;ll go farm some of those beasts that herbalists can &#8220;skin&#8221; and level the boar while getting XP, loot and extra herbs! :)</p>
<p>BTW: And a BIG TY for keeping us updated on those changes! I would never found them if not from reading your blog!</p>
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